Yes, the government always admits when they do something stupid.
You and everyone else needs to look at a map. Ohio is in the eastern third of the US in terms of strictly longitudinal lines. By area, it's about 1/4 (or closer) of the way from the eastern shore.
> it was precisely videotaping of police (well, not videotaping as it hadn't been invented yet, but monitoring of police) and other government officials that the founding fathers
Yeah, the founding fathers were worried about audio recordings of the police. Wait... err...
I think you need to reconsider the definition of the word "precisely." No offense intended, but it is rather strange for someone to write (and bold, no less) "precisely" and then (in parentheses) point out it is NOT "precisely" that. In fact, it is the exact opposite of precise.
Just a note: please don't lump all "easterners" together... We (hopefully) don't think that people from Houston, TX and Seattle, WA are anything alike, even though they are both in the west.
Then again, a large chunk of the nation thinks Ohio is somehow part of the "midwest." WTF? Ever seen a map??? I guess that if the majority is dumb enough to think Ohio is in the west, they are dumb enough to think Oregonians hunt "injuns"...
Heard of them? Hell, most of my friends fall into one of those categories. But like the AC said, the topic is "cheating." If the SO knows of the arrangement and approves, that is not cheating.
> Not every fling deserves to be made known - sometimes people keep secrets from their partner because they love them
What a steaming pile! If they loved the person, they wouldn't f`ing cheat on them to begin with!!! WTF is with people trying to justify their disgusting practices with lies like that?
> And before anyone suggests PaintShopPro, it's worse than Gimp.
Wha??? Its layout is functionally similar to Photoshop except it's easier to find... well, anything. What in the world are you doing to it to begin to think that it's worse than The Gimp? Turning off all the toolbars and palettes and expecting things to magically appear when you will them to? It sort of sounds like you are complaining about the layers, but I can't imagine why... It's freaking simple to use and does just about anything you would need to to with layers, so I'm kind of confused.
If your complaint is only that it is crashing, then perhaps you should check your hardware first, because PSP has crashed my machine, MAYBE five times, through versions 8, 9, and XI over heavy use and a few years on a few machines.
Yeah, though, I agree that The Gimp is a pile of trash if you don't want to memorize everything it can do, (and even then... meh) but PSP? All else aside, considering it costs 1/10 what Photoshop costs, it's amazing.
> why don't you tell us why in this case (GM food) what is an appropriate level of GM food to eat?
Genetically Modified food does not necessarily have anything in common with any other GM food, so there is nothing to measure. The only nonsense answer to your question, therefore, must be "the same level as any other food."
In addition, you are assuming food that is based off of plants that have been genetically modified (which has probably been done, in some form or another, for thousands of years) is automatically bad. That is a rather ignorant view of botany.
BTW, why is it that ecoloons think Global Warming scientists are all geniuses, yet scientists who work on GM foods are a bunch of retarded baby-killing heathens?
Seconded. It's a piece of crap and we hate it at work. So much so that we purchased a bunch of 2003 licenses we don't need so that we don't later get stuck with '07 when '03 isn't available any more.
> It's those that use them and harm others in the process, that bother me.
Oh, my mistake, then. We are (basically) in agreement. I would only like to point out that when a person commits, say, theft or murder, that the reason they did it is mostly irrelevant. They should be convicted of theft or murder, not for the drug use that may have incited them to commit those crimes. That is all I meant, although I left the last part out of my post.
Pardon the hyperbole. (Not quite sure that's exactly the term I'm going for, but close...)
I made no claim as to the 'badness' of either one. I am only trying to point out that just because one person thinks that they are convinced they right in what they are doing, it does not give them the right -- or make them right -- to use any means necessary. Again, this is irrespective of the nature of these means; one person being VERY "wrong" does not make a more minor "wrong" right.
> every harm of drugs to both bystanders and the users can be traced to their prohibition.
Err... except the addiction and wasting away. That can be traced to the users' lack of responsibility or possibly respect for themselves. Otherwise, (IMO) your post is quite true.
So because you know some people who went overboard, everyone is automatically a victim.
"Victimless crime" is usually meant to exclude the person committing the crime.
Even if you don't buy that, "drugs" isn't a crime. "Drug Possession" is a crime, and IS victimless. Now, people who use the drugs may have made themselves victims. That is something else, though.
Funny, I'm smack in the middle of your age guesses: almost 30. I'd guess your age, but I don't really want to find out that you are an adult and still act the way you do.
> with no girlfriend or wife, so therefore you just hate everything and lead yourself to believe that it's by your own choice that it happens
I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. If I had no wife/GF, you are saying I should blame everyone else? That I'm powerless over my life? Thanks for justifying any terrible act anyone in the world has ever committed.
> hating your parents which didn't pay attention to you
No, my parents are pretty cool people and were very loving. My parents are one of the few couples I know who have never been divorced (neither one, ever).
I think that I do know more than my parents, because that should be the goal of ANY parent -- for their children to better off than they are. Of course, some things they know more about than I do. That is the same for almost any person, I hope.
> How should I raise my kids? To be like you?
To be decent people who can learn to think for themselves. But if you make sure they are not exposed to anything that offends your religious sensibilities
It's interesting that you attack me for pointing out that you and the person you were railing against are on opposite extremes of each other, and then make ad-hominem attacks. Not only that, but they were (for the most part) wildly wrong. And you assume that I am going to be a grammar nazi and go nuts like you did, instead of answering your points... If you had made any, that is -- besides "I raise my kids how I see fit," which makes for a nice "mind your own damn business" quote, but as we can all tell from people we meet every day, that's not always the best policy.
You have only helped the original poster believe he was right in condemning you as a closed-minded jerk. Hooray for standing up for your religion and your morals!
I believe the statute of limitations on such a (literal) theft of land has expired long ago. Just don't make any new tombstones with unpaid-for rocks, thank you.
So what you are saying, in a nutshell, is "If I can't explain something to my kids, I make some shit up (or tell them what someone else made up) and hope they don't call me on it."
And I'm fairly sure that right now, you are thinking "man, this guy's an asshole!" But...
> there has to be some reason to go on when times get hard, ya know?
the lack of religion does not indicate IN ANY WAY the lack of hope. Even if I know I'm going to die and just rot in the ground (as opposed to dancing on golden streets in the clouds, which would be way cool) I still have hope that things can become better. That I can have experiences while I am alive that could simply blow my mind and make me think "well gee, even if I suffered more than anyone in the world for the last 70 years, this moment was worth it."
> let them decide themselves > they need something to believe in... "You can think what you want, as long as you believe in God."
> I'd rather them not grow up to be a douchebag that makes fun of religion.
Instead of a douchebag who gets upset and throws a hissyfit because some other guy is a douchebag. Then claiming that douchebag is representative of "the opposition."
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Yes, the government always admits when they do something stupid.
You and everyone else needs to look at a map. Ohio is in the eastern third of the US in terms of strictly longitudinal lines. By area, it's about 1/4 (or closer) of the way from the eastern shore.
> it was precisely videotaping of police (well, not videotaping as it hadn't been invented yet, but monitoring of police) and other government officials that the founding fathers
Yeah, the founding fathers were worried about audio recordings of the police. Wait... err...
I think you need to reconsider the definition of the word "precisely." No offense intended, but it is rather strange for someone to write (and bold, no less) "precisely" and then (in parentheses) point out it is NOT "precisely" that. In fact, it is the exact opposite of precise.
Just a note: please don't lump all "easterners" together... We (hopefully) don't think that people from Houston, TX and Seattle, WA are anything alike, even though they are both in the west.
Then again, a large chunk of the nation thinks Ohio is somehow part of the "midwest." WTF? Ever seen a map??? I guess that if the majority is dumb enough to think Ohio is in the west, they are dumb enough to think Oregonians hunt "injuns"...
> Actually, it'd be safer to ban new drivers from driving during daylight hours.
During most of the year, "new drivers" are in High School during the day...
Heard of them? Hell, most of my friends fall into one of those categories. But like the AC said, the topic is "cheating." If the SO knows of the arrangement and approves, that is not cheating.
> Not every fling deserves to be made known - sometimes people keep secrets from their partner because they love them
What a steaming pile! If they loved the person, they wouldn't f`ing cheat on them to begin with!!! WTF is with people trying to justify their disgusting practices with lies like that?
> Can you really, really be sure that you can hotswap a failed drive without having to reboot?
The only way to be SURE is to try it. I tried it the other day on an old IBM server and found out it worked.
> And before anyone suggests PaintShopPro, it's worse than Gimp.
Wha??? Its layout is functionally similar to Photoshop except it's easier to find... well, anything. What in the world are you doing to it to begin to think that it's worse than The Gimp? Turning off all the toolbars and palettes and expecting things to magically appear when you will them to? It sort of sounds like you are complaining about the layers, but I can't imagine why... It's freaking simple to use and does just about anything you would need to to with layers, so I'm kind of confused.
If your complaint is only that it is crashing, then perhaps you should check your hardware first, because PSP has crashed my machine, MAYBE five times, through versions 8, 9, and XI over heavy use and a few years on a few machines.
Yeah, though, I agree that The Gimp is a pile of trash if you don't want to memorize everything it can do, (and even then... meh) but PSP? All else aside, considering it costs 1/10 what Photoshop costs, it's amazing.
Seconded. Paint Shop Pro is my editor of choice (I freaking HATE photoshop), and it's not unreasonably expensive.
> if your C code requires you to know the difference between i++ and ++i, it is too complicated.
WTF??? If you don't know the difference between i++ and ++i you have no damn business messing with my code!
Yes because, as the name implies, Global Climate Change is a very localized phenomenon.
> why don't you tell us why in this case (GM food) what is an appropriate level of GM food to eat?
Genetically Modified food does not necessarily have anything in common with any other GM food, so there is nothing to measure. The only nonsense answer to your question, therefore, must be "the same level as any other food."
In addition, you are assuming food that is based off of plants that have been genetically modified (which has probably been done, in some form or another, for thousands of years) is automatically bad. That is a rather ignorant view of botany.
BTW, why is it that ecoloons think Global Warming scientists are all geniuses, yet scientists who work on GM foods are a bunch of retarded baby-killing heathens?
In theory, yes, but the keys for 07 don't necessarily work for a 03 install.
Seconded. It's a piece of crap and we hate it at work. So much so that we purchased a bunch of 2003 licenses we don't need so that we don't later get stuck with '07 when '03 isn't available any more.
> Similarly, drugs create victims of entire families
Drug users cause that. "Drugs" are inanimate. That's like saying guns create fimly-victims. No, it's the person who uses the gun that does that.
> It's those that use them and harm others in the process, that bother me.
Oh, my mistake, then. We are (basically) in agreement. I would only like to point out that when a person commits, say, theft or murder, that the reason they did it is mostly irrelevant. They should be convicted of theft or murder, not for the drug use that may have incited them to commit those crimes. That is all I meant, although I left the last part out of my post.
Pardon the hyperbole. (Not quite sure that's exactly the term I'm going for, but close...)
I made no claim as to the 'badness' of either one. I am only trying to point out that just because one person thinks that they are convinced they right in what they are doing, it does not give them the right -- or make them right -- to use any means necessary. Again, this is irrespective of the nature of these means; one person being VERY "wrong" does not make a more minor "wrong" right.
> every harm of drugs to both bystanders and the users can be traced to their prohibition.
Err... except the addiction and wasting away. That can be traced to the users' lack of responsibility or possibly respect for themselves. Otherwise, (IMO) your post is quite true.
> Do they deserve to die for that mistaken belief?
Ask a member of al-Quaeda.
So because you know some people who went overboard, everyone is automatically a victim.
"Victimless crime" is usually meant to exclude the person committing the crime.
Even if you don't buy that, "drugs" isn't a crime. "Drug Possession" is a crime, and IS victimless. Now, people who use the drugs may have made themselves victims. That is something else, though.
hit sumbit too soon, and left a part unfinished...
> But if you make sure they are not exposed to anything that offends your religious sensibilities
then they will not be able to do that.
Funny, I'm smack in the middle of your age guesses: almost 30. I'd guess your age, but I don't really want to find out that you are an adult and still act the way you do.
> with no girlfriend or wife, so therefore you just hate everything and lead yourself to believe that it's by your own choice that it happens
I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. If I had no wife/GF, you are saying I should blame everyone else? That I'm powerless over my life? Thanks for justifying any terrible act anyone in the world has ever committed.
> hating your parents which didn't pay attention to you
No, my parents are pretty cool people and were very loving. My parents are one of the few couples I know who have never been divorced (neither one, ever).
I think that I do know more than my parents, because that should be the goal of ANY parent -- for their children to better off than they are. Of course, some things they know more about than I do. That is the same for almost any person, I hope.
> How should I raise my kids? To be like you?
To be decent people who can learn to think for themselves. But if you make sure they are not exposed to anything that offends your religious sensibilities
It's interesting that you attack me for pointing out that you and the person you were railing against are on opposite extremes of each other, and then make ad-hominem attacks. Not only that, but they were (for the most part) wildly wrong. And you assume that I am going to be a grammar nazi and go nuts like you did, instead of answering your points... If you had made any, that is -- besides "I raise my kids how I see fit," which makes for a nice "mind your own damn business" quote, but as we can all tell from people we meet every day, that's not always the best policy.
You have only helped the original poster believe he was right in condemning you as a closed-minded jerk. Hooray for standing up for your religion and your morals!
I believe the statute of limitations on such a (literal) theft of land has expired long ago. Just don't make any new tombstones with unpaid-for rocks, thank you.
So what you are saying, in a nutshell, is "If I can't explain something to my kids, I make some shit up (or tell them what someone else made up) and hope they don't call me on it."
And I'm fairly sure that right now, you are thinking "man, this guy's an asshole!" But...
> there has to be some reason to go on when times get hard, ya know?
the lack of religion does not indicate IN ANY WAY the lack of hope. Even if I know I'm going to die and just rot in the ground (as opposed to dancing on golden streets in the clouds, which would be way cool) I still have hope that things can become better. That I can have experiences while I am alive that could simply blow my mind and make me think "well gee, even if I suffered more than anyone in the world for the last 70 years, this moment was worth it."
> let them decide themselves ... "You can think what you want, as long as you believe in God."
> they need something to believe in
> I'd rather them not grow up to be a douchebag that makes fun of religion.
Instead of a douchebag who gets upset and throws a hissyfit because some other guy is a douchebag. Then claiming that douchebag is representative of "the opposition."