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What's the Worst Technical Feature You've Used?

kooky45 asks: "In an effort to make our lives easier and more entertaining, technology designers pack more and more features into electronic devices, but often they're more nuisance than they're worth. An earlier article on LEDs discussed some of these. Another example is my Nokia 6320i mobile phone which has a back lit screen that drains the battery life at an alarming rate. When the phone is not in use the back light is off; if the battery starts to run low, it gives me regular warnings by beeping and turning the back light on! What other examples of designer stupidity have you seen?"

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  1. It will come up sooner or later... by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 5, Funny

    Clippy.

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    1. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Corpuscavernosa · · Score: 4, Funny

      You actually used Clippy? Man, what a friggin' dork! ;)

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    2. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Vanayr · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bob, definitely Bob

    3. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Miguel+de+Icaza · · Score: 1, Funny

      again; even after all these years I still maintain the paperclip is great idea

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    4. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, it came up! Would you look at that! You were right!

      Hey, can I get your advice next time I buy lottery tickets?

    5. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Jhon · · Score: 3, Funny
      Clippy was bad... this predates it:

      It may not be a "feature" I've intentionally used and it may not be the WORST, but it always gave me a chuckle WayBackWhen (tm) I'd turn on my PC without a keyboard plugged in:


      Error: No keyboard present

      Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP


      Wonderful advice...
    6. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by rrhal · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Office 2007.

      They ever so helpfully rearanged everything. "Now how do I ..."

      I'm pretty sure that if they had an option to go back to the 1997 interface more than 90% of office users would select that.

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    7. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 1

      I tried hard to avoid it, but it just wouldn't let me do anything without it's help...

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    8. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      My high school had a batch of computers that would regularly boot to some variant of "Error: No keyboard present. Press F1 to continue." In fact, it was so regular that all the students knew to just hit F1 on the darn-tooting-it-was-present keyboard. And it worked.

    9. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows that Microsoft obtained perfection with Word 5.1.

    10. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    11. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

      Office <2007.

      Every single person I've talked to about this IRL prefers the new interface. That's probably at least 20 people, ranging from techies to people who'd ask me how to change page orientation (pre 2007). Even if 90% of users would actually select the old interface, it doesn't mean it's in any way superior.

    12. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Bemopolis · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Why limit it to Clippy?

      Windows.

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    13. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Eternauta3k · · Score: 1

      It may not be a "feature" I've intentionally used and it may not be the WORST, but it always gave me a chuckle WayBackWhen (tm) I'd turn on my PC without a keyboard plugged in
      It's even better when the damn motherboard doesn't detect the keyboard, so you have to press F1 on every boot _
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    14. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Torodung · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Clippy" is not a technical feature.

      "Clippy" is a four letter word. Microsoft couldn't even get that open standard right!

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    15. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That is a good one. It reminds me of Logitech's web site. If for some reason you need to re-install your mouse driver because it is not working you can conveniently download it from their web site.

      After the 30 minutes it takes to navigate the site using the tab key (since your mouse is not working) you get to their friendly download link, which uses some javascript or something to make a download button that can only be clicked on by a mouse. Brilliant!

    16. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Rosonowski · · Score: 1

      So plug in a keyboard and press f1? I don't see the problem...

      (yeah, yeah, I get it, but my keyboard has a crappy connector (it's some old generic ps/2 board) and I sometimes have to reseat it if I moved it or something. I'd much rather know that before I spent 30-40 seconds waiting for my OS to load.

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    17. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you're using microsoft, try Start->Settings->Control Panel->Accessibility Options->Mouse->Use mousekeys

    18. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by edwdig · · Score: 5, Funny

      I once found the text strings stored in the BIOS of my 286. Not far from the standard "Keyboard error, press F1 to continue." message was "CPU not found. System halted."

      I always wondered how they intended to display that message.

    19. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      On that note I'm going for IE, versions 4 thru 7 (the only ones I have experience with.)

      And before MS fans get all pissy, I'll admit up front that I'm completely and totally biased. See, I was introduced to the 'net in the Netscape 2.0 days (yeah, I'm not very l33t, sorry) and that was the context wthin which I learned what a browser, the internet, WWW and email is. In fact, if memory serves, pretty much everybody I knew in those days who had a PC and a 'net connection was running Netscape. I'm not even sure if they were even bothering with such stupid shit as "browser market share" yet.

      Anyway, it was a good year or so before I even touched IE, because Netscape started crashing a whole hell of a lot. And I just plain didn't like it. It did nothing special that Netscape didn't do, and there were plenty of things it didn't do that Netscape did. Hell, it even crashed on a regular basis. Oh, and it was slow as shit, which was hilarious considering how it was tied into the OS. Page rendering was a joke. The menus were typical MS WTF? It was bland. I hated it.

      There were a few lean years there. Even with NS 4.79, it was still flaky on both Mac and PC. iCab was cute but twitchy, then Mozilla gave hope then Firefox released their non-crashy version and everything was muuuuuch better.

      I looked in on IE from time to time, as circumstances warranted, and even with its belated tabness is still does shit that irritates from way earlier versions.

      I have no doubt that IE can one day be a good and even great browser, a thousand monkeys and all that. But so far, it represents years of stagnation, which is sad considering the clout and the talent behind it.

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    20. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by DragonWriter · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Office 2007.

      They ever so helpfully rearanged everything. "Now how do I ..."


      Most people I've known have really liked the new interface. And I'm not talking about Microsoft fans, either. Much cleaner and more intuitive.

      I'm not MS fan, but the Office 2007 UI is about the last thing I'd bash them for.

    21. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I once found the text strings stored in the BIOS of my 286
      > "CPU not found. System halted."
      > I always wondered how they intended to display that message.

      Math coprocessor?

      (I'm kidding, but I wonder. How do you DETECT having no CPU, anyhow!?)

    22. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by saddlark · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Old motherboards tended to intermittently fry a capacitor or so if you plugged in a PS/2 keyboard while the computer was running.

    23. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by infaustus · · Score: 1

      Upgrade to Vigor.

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    24. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by dmsuperman · · Score: 0

      If you think about it, it's probably not how they meant it to come out. When I program things with error display, I normally have the error stored in a variable, then later displayed with generic advice afterward. They probably had it so it would display whatever error you came across, be it this one or any other, then the generic advice to fix such an error would be to go into SETUP and change something. *prepares to be stoned*

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    25. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by windsurfer619 · · Score: 1

      I once had that error. It happened when I forgot to plug in the keyboard. I simply plug in a keyboard, then press F1. I don't see why that's a dumb feature.

    26. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by alisson · · Score: 1

      I have to admit my love for pages... It's not so much easier to use, but it is more compatible than office, from what I can tell. That and it's $100 cheaper :)

    27. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by aichpvee · · Score: 2, Funny

      I am attempting to say "Windows Vista" [allow] [deny]

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    28. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by bigben7187 · · Score: 1

      This still happens on Dell computers, sometimes if you've been messing around with plugging/unplugging stuff, it will say "Keyboard Failure - Press F1 to continue". Gives me a laugh every time.

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    29. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just a wild shot in the dark (actually it's not), but could it perhaps be the BIOS?

      *gasp*

    30. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by cyberwench · · Score: 1

      I told someone that yesterday, they didn't believe me. =) I'm assuming they've fixed this?

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    31. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe, just maybe, it's because you tripped on the keyboard cord the last time you turned it off and it's trying to tell you, "Hey, you're retarded. PUT IT BACK IN."

    32. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by malsdavis · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most motherboards these days are pretty resilient to it, but it is still supposedly possible. The main risk is if the connector's pins bend and touch each other (and even then has to be certain ones) as you plug it in, this can cause a short circuit and can completely fry a motherboard (actually it would only fry a tiny 1 cent micro-controller but in today's throw-away-society that of course means the entire board is as good as bust). Never actually seen it happen in front of me, it always seems to be one of those "it happened to a friend of a friend" type stories.

    33. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Just a wild shot in the dark (actually it's not), but could it perhaps be the BIOS?
      You must have been deliberately casting magic missile at the darkness, then. The BIOS is a program, stored in ROM, which allows other programs to quickly and easily interact with the system hardware at a high level. Being a program, it consists of sequences of CPU instructions, and you can't very well execute CPU instructions if you don't have a CPU...
    34. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And before MS fans get all pissy You're worried about all the MS fans on /. getting pissy at you? Well, I'll admit they can sometimes be a bit obnoxious, but they are only really a problem when BOTH of them work together.
    35. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      "Clippy" is a four letter word. *bzzt*

      I'm sorry, but I do believe there are five.

      How many are there?

      (Trek geek)
    36. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Skylinux · · Score: 2, Informative

      Probably for debugging, I program micro controllers every once in a while and use a serial connection to transmit information back to my PC. It is a lot easier reading a message from a terminal screen then it is reading blinking LEDs ;)

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    37. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by kainino · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's six letters....

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    38. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think I've seen this one in the wild.. attempting to upgrade a P233MMX with a faster AMD based chip (on some board to allow additional clock speed)

      after thinking.. since you are using a processor.. please start the OS and let it deal with it..

      I do recall successfully returning the processor at least. (and everything did work again with the P233 back in place.. in fact I think the computer is still running to this day.. for someone that needs no more than win98 firefox and word97)

    39. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Twisted64 · · Score: 2, Informative

      A colleague next to me is swearing black and blue that he's seen the message, and he's never delved into the BIOs error messages. I keep telling him to post it for a +5 informative, but since he can't explain it, I'm posting it as a curiousity.

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    40. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by flibbajobber · · Score: 1

      sure, great idea - just poor implementation!

    41. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Torodung · · Score: 1

      ISO L145 - Four letter word

      Being a word of no more than four letters, not one, two, nor three either. Five is right out.

      e.g.: "TOFU" is an ISO L145 compliant word.

      "Clippy" is Microsoft's version of the four letter word, which is an extension and improvement of the standard. It is categorized as an MS-L145.40 "four" letter word.

      Turn your pocket calculators upside down to better understand the standards designations.

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    42. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Andrew+Kismet · · Score: 1

      I am going into my BIOS and manually changing that string right now.

    43. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by BrynM · · Score: 1

      Never actually seen it happen in front of me, it always seems to be one of those "it happened to a friend of a friend" type stories.
      I've done it. One time I remember vividly. I was modding a case using old parts (well installing into an odd plastic case actually). While testing, I booted the thing and _then_ realized I hadn't plugged in the keyboard. Thinking I could beat the BIOS, I hastily plugged in a PS2 keyboard and the screen went black with the resounding "thwim" of a CRT. That motherboard never came back.
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    44. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by windex82 · · Score: 1

      I've had the same experience. Most are saying its the best upgrade to office they've seen. The ribbon is well laid out. They can find the features their looking for easier. They also say it seems a little slower and the real advanced options have all been moved . They say the speed they can live with as its not that much slower but wish they advanced stuff was as well layed out at the main controls. But overall its been very positive to say the least.

      I spend a lot of time writing documentation and viso diagramming and have to say I'm really impressed with 2007.

    45. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Darthmalt · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure I've started computers before with a fried processor/not working processor and gotten to the bios boot screen.

    46. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by vuffi_raa · · Score: 2, Informative

      yeah I know what you mean- I had an ethernet driver disc that tried to check online for updates before it could install the driver

    47. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How, exactly, are they going to copy the rom data to the uart?

    48. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      All of the cool kids used the puppy.

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    49. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by ggy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Heh, once while trying to fix a old Dell, I had to run their wonderful Dell Diagnostics application (to get any support from their support).
      The diagnostics application informed me that the computer lacked a motherboard.

      I'm still in awe over that one...

    50. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      Well, you don't know me then.

      I hate it.

    51. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Myself · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Back in the AT days when the keyboard was more important than the mouse, there existed a "key lock", which was a physical lock on the front of the machine that disabled the keyboard. Insert key, turn, remove key, machine is now useless. I'm explaining this in detail because I'm sure some whippersnappers out there have never encountered it.

      In a perfect world, both wires leading from the switch behind the lock would be isolated from the lock body. On our 386, one of them was common with the metal lock, which was mounted in the plastic front panel. Since the plug wasn't polarized, you had a 50% chance of getting this wire connected to ground. In our case, this wire was apparently connected to the keyboard controller. Thus, scuffing across the carpet and then touching the lock resulted in the machine freezing. One day, it also resulted in a funny smell and visible smoke from the power supply fan.

      So we immediately shut the power off (back when men were men and power switches actually interrupted the AC input!) and opened the machine to see whence the magic smoke had come. The metallic sticker on the keyboard BIOS chips was shriveled and charred, and even after the time it took us to get the cover off, it was still hot to the touch. Uh oh.

      Just on a lark, we decided to fire the beast back up and watch the fireworks. With the cover off and safety glasses all around.... it booted! As if nothing had happened! We unplugged they keylock from the motherboard, put the cover back on, and the machine served us well for many more years. I'd have to check which mobo is in the basement DOS box but I think it might still be with us.

      So what the heck happened? IANAEE, but I think it was a textbook case of latchup.

      As the article states, hot-plugged connections often result in unpredictable power sequencing, which can also result in latchup. This could be one of the failure modes when hot-plugging keyboard with DIN plugs. Note that the power and ground contacts in a USB connector are longer than the data contacts, ensuring that they make first and break last. That's proper sequencing, and prevents the data lines from acting as surrogate power conductors for a portion of a mating cycle.

    52. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by sYkSh0n3 · · Score: 1

      I think their mice and keyboards would be the last thing i'd bash them for. They seem to have managed to get that right. As much as I hate Microsoft, I love my explorer trackball.

      Most useless "feature" would probably have to be the blink tag.

      Seems like some witty programmer thought it would be cute to have the blink tag enclose everything on every page of the plextor site. I looked at the source and they had even taken the time to write a javascript that checked the browser and only inserted them if the browser wasn't IE. I like to think that the scathing email I sent them about being microsoft's puppets had something to do with it being removed and the programmer being fired. I doubt it. But it made me feel better.

    53. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are FOUR LIGHTS!

    54. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by sunny256 · · Score: 1

      I once found the text strings stored in the BIOS of my 286. Not far from the standard "Keyboard error, press F1 to continue." message was "CPU not found. System halted."

      I always wondered how they intended to display that message.

      The BIOS programmer was probably slave of good programming practice -- always include a "This can not happen" section in conditionals.

    55. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Sobrique · · Score: 1

      I remember that keylock. Annoyed the hell out of the people who thought it was security when I just popped the case, and unplugged the jumper.

    56. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Sobrique · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that one can actually happen. Your motherboard has enough brains (somewhere) to bootstrap as far as BIOS config without a processor at all. I'm fairly sure of that, because when you screw up the processor overclock settings, it doesn't work, and you can start up and correct the problem usually. (Depending on what mobo type you have).

    57. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a video that I took of a PC I had a few years ago. This was on a motherboard that, instead of using beep codes, would play voice samples of someone telling you what error you had.

      So I would power up this PC and a voice from the speakers would exclaim "NO CPU INSTALLED! NO CPU INSTALLED!" and a second later, the PC would happily POST and then load the operating system.

    58. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      No, the BIOS runs on the CPU. That function is normally just turns all the overclock settings off completely and lets you reconfigure.

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    59. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by edwdig · · Score: 1

      Nope, the BIOS is normal 16 bit x86 code. When the processor powers on, it automatically starts running code at a specific address, which is where the BIOS is located. (The back of my head says there may be one level of indirection, as in the CPU looks for a pointer at a specific address, which is in the BIOS range, then starts running the code it points to, also in the BIOS range).

      Anyway, as for the overclocking problem. If the motherboard detects that the CPU completely doesn't work with the settings specified, it automatically sets all the settings to the slowest supported values and tries to boot the CPU again.

    60. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by rtyall · · Score: 1

      See, I used to think along those lines, that during POST the PC would check the bios itself, then the video card, then CPU, ram, etc. But that's only the visual elements of the POST process.
      You can find a general sequnce of events here... Award Boot Procedure.
      They all (ie. Ami, Phoenix, dell, etc) follow pretty much the same steps, the 1st being to check the flags in the CPU. If it fails here, then you won't see any error as the visual part of post hasn't occured yet.

    61. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by SCPRedMage · · Score: 1

      Believe it or not, a computer is capable of getting far enough to display that particular error message without a CPU in it. Remember, BIOS starts EVERYTHING up, INCLUDING the CPU.

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    62. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by IckySplat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ummm.... what planet are you from?
      The BIOS does NOT start the CPU.
      When a PC and fact most computers start, the reset pin will trigger the CPU
      to start executing code at a predetermined memory address. This address is usually hard coded
      into the CPU hardware. The address it loads and executes is usually the BIOS.

      When x86 CPU's boot they are very limited beasts. It's up the the BIOS code to figure out
      what exact model of CPU it is then enable all the neat extra features, like 32 or 64 bit modes
      SMP and other goodies.

      Comeon guys, this is basic stuff every geek should know.
      This is something that hasn't really changed for the last 20-40 years or so /me Very disappointed :(

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    63. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      one of my Asus boards let out the magic smoke from the USB controller for ports 5, 6, 7 and 8 which resulted in the chip burning so bad, it flaked right off the mainboard and left burn marks on both sides. The board works without any issues other then these ports being out of commission and has been running for a couple years steady.

    64. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by PAjamian · · Score: 1

      (actually it would only fry a tiny 1 cent micro-controller but in today's throw-away-society that of course means the entire board is as good as bust). Actually it's a fuse. It's a tiny "picofuse" which looks like a resistor and is soldered onto the motherboard somewhere in the vicinity of the keyboard jack. Usually both the keyboard and mouse are on the same circuit so they both get taken out when the fuse is blown. You can get a replacement fuse for around $1-2 at most electronics stores, and if you're handy with a soldering iron fix it yourself. I used to do it all the time when I worked at a computer repair shop on Packard Bell proprietary form factor motherboards. Since replacement boards were several hundred dollars we could get away with charging $200 for the repair, though we told the customer that it was a "keyboard interface module" to justify the cost more.
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    65. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by malsdavis · · Score: 1

      Ouch, must have been annoying.

      I think I remember someone telling me once that during the initial start-up is the most dangerous time to plug in a PS/2 adapter. No idea if this is true or not, but it would make some sense.

    66. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by PAjamian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I remember that keylock. Annoyed the hell out of the people who thought it was security when I just popped the case, and unplugged the jumper. Some of the original ones actually had a latch that locked the case itself closed as well. If you locked it and subsequently lost the key then the lock had to be drilled or the case forced open with a crowbar to fix it.
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    67. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1

      Reminds of of the 'Palm Vx will kill your motherboard' problem. Oft disputed, but I personally saw it happen to a colleague at work. We were going to lunch, and he wanted to sync his Palm Vx. I watched him place it in the docking cradle (as he had many times before), and the PC's screen went black and all the fans and lights went off. The motherboard never worked again.

    68. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1

      That reminds me of a great feature of the original version of NT4.

      You install it, run the default IE3 to go to www.microsoft.com for updates...and IE3 can't display the page because MS buggered up their home page for IE3...nice.

    69. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by PAjamian · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that one can actually happen. Your motherboard has enough brains (somewhere) to bootstrap as far as BIOS config without a processor at all. I'm fairly sure of that, because when you screw up the processor overclock settings, it doesn't work, and you can start up and correct the problem usually. (Depending on what mobo type you have).

      I'm pretty sure that a predetermined slow boot speed is used during POST and the CPU speed gets reset to the CMOS stored values during POST, probably after the setup is run. This is because (1) CMOS settings are read during the POST, not before, so any over clocking setting cannot be applied before the POST and (2) it's also a really easy way to give you a chance to change your messed up settings in a stable environment before they have a chance to take out the system.

      There is no way that your computer can do anything without a CPU. If you doubt that, then try removing the CPU from your motherboard some time and see how far into the POST you get.

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    70. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Well, after all it could be that you are connected to the internet another way (analog modem, ISDN modem, another ethernet card). Of course if the driver installation failed if it could not get online, then it would be clearly stupid. Also it would probably be a good idea to ask the user first if it should really look for newer drivers.

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    71. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Ash+Vince · · Score: 1

      Far too much effort being that it had no tumblers and could be turned with a paperclip.

      My parents used it to stop me using the PC while they were at work for years.

      Another alternative would be to just use one from a different PC as most of them were all exactly the same.

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      I dont read /. to RTFA, I read /. to offend people in ignorance.
    72. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by McGurk · · Score: 2, Funny

      I had that exact same fuckign thing happen to me. It pissed me off so bad that I have NEVER bought another logitech input device.

      Well, except for their bluetooth laptop mouse. Its the cheapest one on the market. But I'll be GODDAMNED if they think I'm going to install their bloated mouse software, the bastards!

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    73. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by McGurk · · Score: 1

      My asus p4pe does that now. I can change the settings in the bios, but when there's a power disruption I loose the bios settings (battery bad; when this board dies I upgrade, so screw replacing it). The shitty thing is is that it doesn't recognize my wireless keyboard so it does it every time. I leave an old ps/2 plugged in now.

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    74. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      NT4 shipped with IE 2, until service packs were applied. Forget which one included IE3...

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    75. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by ZOMFF · · Score: 1

      I hated the day my parents realized that they could use the keylock to keep me from tying up the phone line dialing BBSs

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    76. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by DriveDog · · Score: 1

      I remember that... it apparently set an example for our cable tv company, which had a channel demonstrating how to connect the cable box...

    77. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On modern systems, the MCH and ICH do a handshake before even bringing the system out of hard reset. During this process, the MCH insures that there is a processor present and will NOT continue otherwise. Thus, it's not possible to boot or even initialize the system.

    78. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Ravenscall · · Score: 1

      Not really. My mother would lock ours when she grounded me, so I learned to pick the lock with a toothpick.

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    79. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1

      Gosh, was it only IE2? Crikey. Well I expect it goes double for IE2 then. I just know it didn't work when I tried it. Can't remember what I did next. Downloaded IE4 via another PC I expect.

    80. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by evilviper · · Score: 2, Informative

      Your motherboard has enough brains (somewhere) to bootstrap as far as BIOS config without a processor at all.

      A processor is what runs code. Without a processor, code doesn't run. There is no exception.

      To run without a main CPU, there would have to be a second processor on the board somewhere, which I can assure you there is not. The northbridge and southbridge chips are advanced these days, but they can't do any processing on their own.

      when you screw up the processor overclock settings, it doesn't work, and you can start up and correct the problem usually.

      Your BIOS bootstraps at an extremely early stage in the boot process, when your x86 PC is running in an 8-bit mode, and at the speed of an 8088. They simply put a "freeze" check early in the BIOS process, before it's been fully initalized, and use safe defaults to continue the POST process until video is initialized, and the user can be notified.
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    81. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by JDHannan · · Score: 1

      bloated? its only 48.9MB! Thats not even 50 MB!

    82. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by hesiod · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Seconded. It's a piece of crap and we hate it at work. So much so that we purchased a bunch of 2003 licenses we don't need so that we don't later get stuck with '07 when '03 isn't available any more.

    83. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Tofystedeth · · Score: 1

      When I was taking my OS class we did a little kernel module programming in Linux. We were each provided our own low-grade linux box (and only the box) assembled from spare parts at the college where we took the class as a co-op. When I tried to do my first excercise, I found that it would not boot without a PS2 keyboard present. It wouldn't read my USB keyboard, and apparently my keyboard couldn't fake the appropriate responses when plugged in with a PS2 adapter. None of my friends had a PS2 keyboard, so I went to the tech department. All of theirs where in use and I was about to become really frustrated. As I was leaving, the guy I was talking to asked me why I needed one. When I told him, he said, "So you don't actually need to type with it? Just boot?" Turns out they had a whole stack of PS2 keyboards that had a bunch of broken keys, but the controller chips still worked fine. So I take one back to my dorm, and put it on the shelf above my lab box. I plugged it when I booted it, and as soon as it finished POSTing, would swap in my USB keyboard.

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    84. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      There are FOUR LIGHTS! Somebody got the reference...
    85. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Your BIOS bootstraps at an extremely early stage in the boot process, when your x86 PC is running in an 8-bit mode, and at the speed of an 8088.

      16 bit mode. The 8086 never had an 8 bit mode. The 8088 was "8 bit" only from the outside (to interface with 8-bit memory), but was an 8086 from the software's view.

      Also while I don't know for sure, I highly doubt that modern processors start with an 8088 frequency (IIRC 8 MHz). I'd guess that they at least run at the speed of the front side bus.
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    86. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Cprossu · · Score: 1

      An old crusty AMI engineer explained it to me this way-

      "Keyboard error/No keyboard present
      Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP"
      actually comes from a much different time than now, back to when users were a little bit more tech savey and ROM chips were not very spacious. It often took no less than 4 rom chips to contain a 8088, 8086, or 80286 bios (and even another rom chip just for the purpose of decoding the keyboard's input), so it was a moot point to use up more space by adding in another clause for a separate error statement just for the keyboard, so there was an implied
      "(Hook up your damn keyboard)" after "Keyboard error/No keyboard present"
      then "Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP" just as there is an implied
      "(Fix your darn time and date and cmos settings)" after "CMOS CHECKSUM INVALID", "Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP"

      As for the worst tech "feature" I've ever used....
      It's got to be the blue screen of death that came up, beginning with windows 95(?), when it couldn't read media (didn't matter if it was floppy, hard drive, cdrom, or network drive).
      Of the customers I had who were used to the dreadful white box with 2 options and a system read error none of them were too amused to see a BSOD instead - they would then assume that their computer crashed (not even reading the screen) and restarted it from there. Also my experience with it has been more often than not, that particular BSOD had a tendency to lock the system up....
      I would like to know who thought a BSOD was a good way to handle a media read error.

      -Cprossu out

    87. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      State machine? On at least one late-1980s home computer, there was no boot ROM at all. The ASIC containing the glue logic had enough smarts to DMA the first sector off the disk into the memory, then bring the CPU out of reset so it would then run the code and boot.

    88. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by elrous0 · · Score: 1
      Yeah, I used to have a build that did that all the time, for no apparent reason. I always tell people that each of my builds seems to have its own personality. The latest has a weird and completely unpredictable tendency to lock up at the initial Windows loading screen on boot-up, requiring a reboot. It will do the same thing for two or three more reboots, then boot normally. Most of the time it boots fine, but sometimes I get this annoyance. I've never been able to figure out why it does this, since it seems to have no rhyme or reason.

      Also, for the last two builds, I've had a boot-up problem where I *HAVE* to have my Windows install disc in the DVD drive for Windows to boot on the hard drive. If the disc isn't in there, it won't boot (even though Windows is on the hard drive and it's not actually booting to the install disc).

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    89. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 1

      I always wondered how they intended to display that message.
      Video DMA?

    90. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the first issue... do you have both power connections to your motherboard? (The regular 20/24 pin one, but then the regular molex connector to)?
      My friend had this exact same issue, but when he built his comp he forgot to connect it. He was always bitchin and complaining that his computer would constantly freeze during the windows loading screen, and he would have to restart it a couple times.
      He did do a couple reformats and still same issue.
      I took a look at his comp and noticed he didn't have it plugged in.
      After I plugged it in, he has only had it happen very rarely, now it boots up almost everytime.

      Never heard of the 2nd issue before, did you try disabling your cdrom drive?

    91. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Cardcaptor_RLH85 · · Score: 1

      I've had that problem before.... Most likely ntkrnl.dll or hal.dll is corrupted in the System32 directory. This has happened to two of my Windows XP builds and one of my friends XP builds. No idea why it happens but try replacing both of those dll's with the copies from your install disk and you should be fine ^_^

    92. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Reece400 · · Score: 1

      You think that's bad... I had a motherboard with the same 'playing voice samples instead of beep codes'... but instead of connecting to an actual case speaker for the pc speaker, it had a tiny one soldered on the motherboard. All that came out when it tried talking was a sort of muffled buzzing sound. I had to modify the board to accept a real speaker so that I could find out what was wrong!

    93. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by enjerth · · Score: 1

      I was just thinking about that when I read the poster talking about popping the case off and disconnecting the wire to the key lock. All the computers I saw had the feature to lock the case on.

      But they keys were all the same. Any key could be used on any computer. You could have fun with that if you knew someone who had lost their own key.

    94. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by edwdig · · Score: 1

      It's up the the BIOS code to figure out what exact model of CPU it is then enable all the neat extra features, like 32 or 64 bit modes SMP and other goodies.

      Minor nitpick, but the BIOS doesn't do any of that. The BIOS just does the absolute minimum required to get the CPU going. It sets the clock and loads the microcode, then looks for a boot sector to run. The boot sector code is good old 16 bit code still.

    95. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by owlstead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh, some USB keyboards take a long time to startup as well. But if a keyboard is not present, it's pretty easy to connect one and hit the damn F1 key, so I don't know how stupid this actually is. Most BIOS still have an option to stop if no keyboard is present, and you will still get this error message. It could have read "(re)connect keyboard and press F1", but I think most people can work this out, even lusers.

    96. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Avatar8 · · Score: 1
      About as good as USB keyboards on systems where the BIOS will not recognize USB until Windows starts.

      No command line for joo!

    97. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think I remember plugging in the Molex connector (that's the white 4-pin one, right?). But I'll double check. Thanks for the tip.

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    98. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I'll try that out.

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    99. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Himring · · Score: 1

      We had a guy here years ago (and no one really knew what his job really was) went around to all the secretaries' computer, turned on the office assistant and changed it to the dolphin. This seemed to be his sole mission in life. The executive secretary finally said one day, "I don't like it when that guy works on my computer." He went away finally. Not sure what happened....

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    100. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by shoolz · · Score: 1

      Like my circa 1996 US Robotics modem... the instruction booklet helpfully suggested that if I couldn't get it to work, simply visit their online support center at www.usrobotics.com.

      I couldn't, and I couldn't.

    101. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You may be correct, but if you have an old computer sitting around, take out the CPU, and turn it on, and see what happens.

      I was surprised as you were.

    102. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by RESPAWN · · Score: 1

      Actually, just last week I was talking to one of my help desk guys. He was on his way to replace a motherboard because... you guessed it. The user didn't shut down when swapping his keyboard with the "better" one that used to belong to a guy who just left. It still happens. Unfortunately.

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    103. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      erm MS volume license plans include downgrade rights don't they.......

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    104. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by hesiod · · Score: 1

      In theory, yes, but the keys for 07 don't necessarily work for a 03 install.

    105. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.geocities.com/pronto4u/mouseemulator.ht ml

      I used this mouse emulator for about 2 months. excellent tool.

      zeroin23

    106. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by cyberwench · · Score: 1

      I saw it happen a fair bit. The local guys who were running a Quakefest "back in the day", for example, didn't know about this and didn't seem too concerned when we mentioned (working for a computer store, and all that) that they might want to not hot-swap everyone's peripherals out of the machines...

      They lost quite a few motherboards that day.

      Good to know it still happens, though. Well, not _good_, just good that I'm not hallucinating this or something. =)

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    107. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Karganeth · · Score: 1

      Heh, I just looked on bash, and I saw that exact quote under the "latest" section. (http://www.bash.org/?766211) Looks like somebody stole your funny post.

    108. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps the for the second problem, the BIOS MBR virus protection feature is enabled and "protected" windows from creating a valid one (just a shot in the dark.) Not sure if the "fdisk /mbr" trick still works, but it might be worth a look.

    109. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Oh, some USB keyboards take a long time to startup as well. But if a keyboard is not present, it's pretty easy to connect one and hit the damn F1 key, so I don't know how stupid this actually is.


      With a USB keyboard, that may be true (I don't have any machines with USB keyboards to try it on.) Try that more than a few times in a room full of PS/2 keyboarded-and-moused machines any you'll pretty soon have a fried motherboard to contemplate the joys of plug'n'pray over. You've got to power down before connecting a PS/2 device. Well, if they're your own machines - you can do what the fsck you want to the machines at your work.

      [/self] checks the works which laptop I'm using this week - USBs only. Must be one of the newer ones (as the #24 serial number and the XP desktop installation suggests).[self]
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    110. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Kahm-Hime · · Score: 1

      Also, for the last two builds, I've had a boot-up problem where I *HAVE* to have my Windows install disc in the DVD drive for Windows to boot on the hard drive. If the disc isn't in there, it won't boot (even though Windows is on the hard drive and it's not actually booting to the install disc). When I had that it was some problem with boot order in the bios. I didn't have the right hard drive selected as the boot drive. When the WinXP cd is in the CDROM, it will boot and give the "press a key to boot from CD" message. If you don't, it'll ignore bios settings and boot something. (Whether it's the first drive or what, I don't know.)
  2. beeping and turning the back light on by Miguel+de+Icaza · · Score: 3, Insightful

    if you're in a noisy enviroment or listening to headphones beeping and turning the back light on is a great idea. It is better to be alerted your battery is dying, than to discover you've missed hours of important calls.

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    1. Re:beeping and turning the back light on by YourMotherCalled · · Score: 1

      How about just a special beep instead? The light probably requires a lot more power.

    2. Re:beeping and turning the back light on by amuro98 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's what my previous phone would do. Turn the backlight on HIGH, and beep.

      Then, with its dying gasp, it would play the shutdown animation and music, which also would turn on the backlight.

      Really now, why do cellphones have these long, stupid start-up/shutdown animations?

      The other stupid thing about my previous cellphone was that it didn't have any sort of keylock, so when I'd put it in my pocket, I'd end up with 2 dozen shots of my keys in the dark.

      Cellphones, overall, are a bad technical feature.

    3. Re:beeping and turning the back light on by WasterDave · · Score: 1

      My phone sings loudly, and does it half a dozen times as the 'battery low' situation gets gradually worse. Of course, starting at 3am this is simply wonderful, especially if you don't know where you've put it.

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    4. Re:beeping and turning the back light on by sortius_nod · · Score: 0

      It's a stupid idea - lithium ion batteries tend to DIE from being totally discharged, which is what happens when you stupidly program a phone to have a dieing gasp using full power. nuff said, go back to being a user.

    5. Re:beeping and turning the back light on by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

      Maybe, but speaking for myself when my battery is low I'm aware of that fact and it's low because I don't have access to a charger. That being the case, I'd be pretty pissed while hoping my phone will last me three more hours till I get home if it kept wasting batteries left and right telling me something I can't do anything about.

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    6. Re:beeping and turning the back light on by ColaMan · · Score: 1

      Or keylocks that don't quite lock all the keys.

      My old Nokia 3310 has a keylock.... that lets you dial the emergency number through it.
      The emergency number here is "000" - there were quite a few times where I'd pull my phone out of my pocket to be greeted with "000" and "send" all ready to go. Seeing that the send button's the biggest one on the phone, I'm amazed I didn't get more irate calls from emergency services. Any other key except 0 would give you the little animation of how to unlock the phone, so if there was an accident most people could figure it out, you'd think.

      Here's a hint for the Nokia UI engineers: Keylocks should lock the keys. That is all. Don't add any unexpected overrides in there.

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    7. Re:beeping and turning the back light on by NeoThermic · · Score: 1

      The whole point of that feature is to allow someone to use the phone in an emergency if they either do not have the time to unlock it or figure out how to unlock the phone. Why waste 10 seconds or such unlocking a phone when you could already be speaking to emergency services?

      NeoThermic

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    8. Re:beeping and turning the back light on by ColaMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why have lots of prank calls to emergency services when a keylock that's supposed to lock the keys - it's primary function - doesn't work?

      As mentioned, pressing *any key on the phone* except zero gives a highly informative display of "press unlock", with a big animated arrow pointing to the unlock button, and then once you've pressed that, "press *".

      If it's your phone, the odds that you will be dialing and you will know pretty well how to unlock said phone. If it's not your phone - to be honest, 10 seconds in getting emergency services doesn't count that much. In reality if the situation is that serious and you're the only one there, you should be busy giving first aid, ensuring someone's breathing, stopping bleeding or whatever, before you find the time to call emergency services. And if you're not alone, then the time you spend giving first aid more than compensates for the time it takes for another person with you to unlock an unfamiliar phone.

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    9. Re:beeping and turning the back light on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's a stupid idea.

      Yes, the battery is low, please feel free to tell me this once perhaps, in case I'm too lazy to look at the battery meter that is in the corner of the screen constantly. But if I've left the battery get that low it's because I don't have a means of charging. Accelerating the use of the remaining battery by flashing the screen, beeping and possibly even vibrating every five minutes is not going to help!

    10. Re:beeping and turning the back light on by plover · · Score: 1
      At least with Nokia you could change the "emergency call number" to something else via the menus. If you picked "911" (the American emergency number) then at least your phone wouldn't let you accidentally call "000". It still works to call "000" in an emergency, but your phone wouldn't give you all this "help" like "Attempting emergency call" or allow anything but 911 it to be dialed while the keypad is locked. I think you can even completely disable the emergency call number, which would truly lock your whole keypad the way you want it.

      Far worse is any modern Motorola phone. I seriously despise the Motorola software. They've obviously never tested it under any actual use conditions, or watched any users with a brain try to navigate or use their crapware.

      I have the V3 RAZR (ok, not that new anymore, but their new offerings suffer from the same problems) and it's a flip-open style. When I close the phone, I expect the keys to lock. Well, I do, but not Motorola. There are four unlabeled buttons on the edges of the phone that are still active. Two change the ring volume. One starts voice dialing and matches any random ambient sound to someone in my list. There's another button that I have no idea what it does, nor do I care. I just want them off.

      All the belt pouches I've found have giant gaping holes allowing convenient access to the buttons while in the pouch. My coat presses them. My seat-belt buckle presses them. A pen sticking up out of my pocket presses them. Sometimes they'll shift the ring volume to silent, causing me to miss calls. Other times they'll crank it up to embarrassingly loud levels just in time for a meeting.

      OK, so I figure I'll go into the menus and disable them. No luck -- I can rearrange everything on a menu I don't care about; I can disable network switching even though I use only one; I can turn on and off all kinds of things that are of no use to me. But I can't shut off those accursed outside buttons! Even after spending a month on the cell phone hacking forums, downloading new firmware, picking new options, nothing. It still wants to autodial someone whose name sounds very much like a seat-belt click.

      What part of "disable those buttons" is so goddamn hard for Motorola to understand?

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    11. Re:beeping and turning the back light on by DeXtroMe · · Score: 1

      My Motorola v30i (I made that up, not sure of the model number) would leave the internal screen's backlight on for whatever you set the delay to (2-15 seconds) even AFTER you closed the phone. You could see the light was still on through the gap between the two halves of the phone. 2-15 seconds of backlight may not be a killer, but how hard would it have been to just have phone closed = backlight off?

    12. Re:beeping and turning the back light on by DeXtroMe · · Score: 1

      Motorola has mastered creating popular hardware with terrible software. Verizon does 'enhance' this though, by disabling phone features (such as MP3 ringtones). I can't count the number of times I've had to do SEEM edits for people just to enable this feature alone.

  3. 6320i ??? by Arghdee · · Score: 1

    I think you might mean 6230i.. and charge your battery more frequently.

  4. Windows Genuine Advantage by Tatisimo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The daily upgrades kept making the machine slower and the system was overly paranoid with too many unwanted pop ups.

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    1. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage by Tatisimo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, I purchased the legitimate thing from a respectable, authorized seller. I don't download that stuff, and I keep my taskbar empty. I keep a crap ware free machine. I had to turn WGA off in order to keep it from slowing down my real work (which takes up a lot of ram already). But somehow, after 4 months of use, it decided that my copy was illegitimate. So it almost locked me out, till I called tech support to fix it. (Good thing I still had the warranty). Maybe I'm just not Windows 1337 enough for it... I guess I'll go back to DOS. or go on to Linux.

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    2. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage by egr · · Score: 1

      FUD? The "You have to restart your computer"-pop-up after an update in Windows XP is the most irritating shit. It it comes every 5 minutes and there is no visible option to disable it.

    3. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage by Cryolithic · · Score: 1

      Go into services and STOP (not disable) the Automatic Update Service. Next time you reboot it will be running again so you won't miss any updates.

    4. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 2, Informative

      Funny thing is, I've been.. my FRIEND has been running a pirated copy of Vista since it came out, and according to Windows I have a 100% legit activated ASUS OEM copy. I never have to activate, I never get nagged, and I can download all the Microsoft stuff that require WGA.

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    5. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage by sortius_nod · · Score: 0

      or you can do the following: 1. Start | Shutdown | Restart 2. Insert *nix distro install CD/DVD of your choice 3. Boot from CD/DVD 4. Install *nix 5. ??? 6. Profit Just be careful of the flying chairs.

    6. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage by Kalriath · · Score: 0

      "Overrated" is NOT a synonym for "Disagree"

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    7. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage by Endo13 · · Score: 1

      And if you're running WinXP SP2 don't forget to go into the Security Center and tell it NOT to alert you about Automatic Updates. Otherwise the Security Center will make a popup bubble every 5 minutes whining about Automatic Updates being turned off.

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    8. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage by 6th+time+lucky · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'll see your "annoying pop-up" and raise you an unwelcome automatic friggin' reboot. Turns out if you ignore the popup and arent at your computer it will just shut itself down anyway...

      Boss lost a half day's work from that... yes he should have saved the file properly (he insists he did), but *NO* the computer shouldnt have just rebooted on its own while he had lunch!

      You can turn this on/off by some group policy... cant remember where...

    9. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage by Tinfoil · · Score: 1

      Yes, I have a legitimate copy of XP Pro and the last time I reinstalled, I had to deal with WGA no less than 3 times. That's three times after I successfully registered my copy of XP with MS after the install. It's a minor annoyance, but ffs, how many times do I have to prove I'm not a goddamned criminal before they actually believe me?

      I'm no MS hater, but I very much dislike being treated like a criminal.

    10. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage by Laogeodritt · · Score: 1

      You can increase the delay between the dialogs to up to 24 hours using the Group Policy Editor (Windows XP Pro) or by adding/modifying a registry value or two. Just a note, unlike what is said in this article, the key ended up being "\Auto Update" rather than "\AU" on my OEM Windows XP Home SP2 installation. How To Disable the Windows XP Automatic Updates Reset Nag Screen.

    11. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage by egr · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the advice. Sounds like a good solution without killing update service every time

  5. Honda Stereo Security by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Funny

    My honda, and I think many others - have a security feature for the entertainment system. If the power is ever out to the unit, the owner must punch in a 4 digit code to turn it back on, after power is restored. If you forget the code, and don't have it written down somewhere - you can get it. You just need to remove the unit from the dash and call a dealer with a number written on the outside of it. This is not an easy process - and dealers will do it for you but it costs around $200 last time I checked. In other words - the only person who can easily get at the information necessary to the code is someone who already has the stereo out- like say a thief.

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    1. Re:Honda Stereo Security by dpaton.net · · Score: 4, Informative

      Or just call the dealer you bought the car from, give them the VIN, and they'll give you the code over the phone. I've been doing this off and on for a decade, and haven't had to give them anything else.

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    2. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Nos. · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So, if I'm going to steal the stereo from a Honda, take the extra couple of seconds and grab the VIN while I'm there.

    3. Re:Honda Stereo Security by JohnnyGTO · · Score: 1

      Oh My Lord can this be a pain, my Dad just went through this. Turns out the dealer put a sticker in the glove box with the radio and nav units code. Before shelling out cash lock in the glove box, all the fuse boxes, under the coin/ash trays, and of course in the manuals. Also good dealers keep this info with your cars records and wont extort you for money if you go to the original dealership and ask for it.

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    4. Re:Honda Stereo Security by LordEd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In some newer GM vehicles, the door chimes and "possibly" some other features (some rumours have floated around about airbags, although I highly doubt it) are tied into the radio unit. If you want to upgrade to an aftermarket deck (such as an MP3 unit), you either need to have the radio unit installed in parallel in the trunk with a special wiring kit, or have a module installed that takes over that functionality. That module costs an extra $150, i think.

      When I asked GM about the stupid design, they told me that they weren't sure if it was even technically possible to install an aftermarket deck, and that this is something that the majority of consumers want.

    5. Re:Honda Stereo Security by RealErmine · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can also use Honda's online Owner Link to store your radio code, unless you're afraid someone will hack your account and then steal your stereo. There's a special field for it and everything.

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    6. Re:Honda Stereo Security by stoolpigeon · · Score: 1

      I did this after the last episode of no code. I've also written it on various pieces of paper, written it to cd and emailed it to my gmail account.

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    7. Re:Honda Stereo Security by qwijibo · · Score: 1

      You wrote a 4 digit code to a CD? I sure hope you put something else on that CD too. =)

    8. Re:Honda Stereo Security by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Naw, he just wrote it literally to the CD. Like with a Sharpie.

    9. Re:Honda Stereo Security by russ1337 · · Score: 1

      >>> Naw, he just wrote it literally to the CD. Like with a Sharpie.

      how do you get the CD out of the stereo without the code?

    10. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Planesdragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When I asked GM about the stupid design, they told me that they weren't sure if it was even technically possible to install an aftermarket deck, and that this is something that the majority of consumers want.

      No, not really. The majority of consumers buy the radio as part of the car, just like any other part of the electrical system.

    11. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In some newer GM vehicles, the door chimes and "possibly" some other features (some rumours have floated around about airbags, although I highly doubt it) are tied into the radio unit.

      That would be a feature, not a bug. I hate door chimes.

    12. Re:Honda Stereo Security by SoCalChris · · Score: 2, Informative

      I own two newer GM vehicles, there is some truth to this.

      You can easily add an after market stereo, although you will need an adapter. You can get one for about $30, although your door chime won't work (Which isn't necessarily a bad thing). An adapter that keeps the door chime working is about $80.

      One nice thing about the newer GM radios though is that the radio stores the VIN in the radio. You can disconnect the power as many times as you want, and the radio will always work, as long as it is installed in the vehicle that it came out of. You don't have to worry about remembering a code like in most other car stereos.

    13. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Lockejaw · · Score: 1

      I've never used that specific thing, but plenty of things like it. I've lost count of the number of times our computers were so locked down we couldn't use them. My favorite is a system where the user account has a restricted command path, and cannot put slashes in its commands. This makes su inaccessible, and root login is disabled (even local logins).
      So secure, even the owner can't get root!

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    14. Re:Honda Stereo Security by jollespm · · Score: 1

      I had a 2003 Saab 9-3 and the stereo was like that. Most interesting was the turn signal. Most cars you can hear the relay clicking, but not in the Saab, they actually play a tick-tock type noise through the front stereo speakers. It was all linked together with a fiber optic network that was also tied to the Onstar unit.

    15. Re:Honda Stereo Security by toleraen · · Score: 1

      For Ford it's kinda close...at least my 2005 Taurus. The passenger air bag automatically disables when something light is in the seat. It lets you know the airbag is disabled by lighting up an indicator just below the radio. Removing the factory radio/wiring and hooking up an aftermarket deck disables the passenger airbag completely. No larger name places would touch my car, jerks! Last I checked all you needed to do was put a 10k ohm resistor inline to fix it. For some reason my wife won't let me test that out though.

    16. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends. I tried that first on my car but the dealer couldn't find the code for my particular VIN. The dealer even went through the manufacturer and they for whatever reason couldn't get the code.

      I ended up having to take the radio out and make a copy of the bottom of it with all the numbers and such which they then sent off to the factory. Took a couple weeks for them to sort it out.

      This was a BMW though and had something do with the car actually being made in Germany rather than a non-German built car.

      Taking the radio out on the BMW was a simple 5 minute affair though. Provided you have the proper tool.

    17. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Nanoda · · Score: 1

      My Chevy Malibu has a one-note chime that tells me if my fuel is low, my ABS broken, my door not shut, etc.
      When I get to work, I usually open the door, grab my keys, then get out and shut the door. This means I get the "You left your keys in the car!" bing while I get out almost every day.

      Except for the day when "bing" didn't mean "You left your keys in the car!", but "You left your lights on!", which I was dismayed to find out when I left the office late to a dead battery on a -40 degree evening after everyone with jumper cables had gone home. Thanks GM!

    18. Re:Honda Stereo Security by LordEd · · Score: 1

      Sorry, my sentence was badly phrased. GM was trying to imply that the integration of a commonly replaced/upgraded component with other components is a desirable feature.

    19. Re:Honda Stereo Security by nasch · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess that's what you get for buying a fricking Malibu. Sorry, that was harsh. No wait, totally appropriate. :-)

    20. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Some_Llama · · Score: 4, Funny

      Clippy? (i.e. paperclip?)

    21. Re:Honda Stereo Security by veganboyjosh · · Score: 4, Funny

      So, if I'm going to steal the stereo from a Honda, take the extra couple of seconds and grab the VIN while I'm there.

      Or the car it's attached to.

    22. Re:Honda Stereo Security by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      "It was all linked together with a fiber optic network"

      I call BS. Why the hell would they use fiber optics for that?

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    23. Re:Honda Stereo Security by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      electrical immunity from the ignition noise?
      -nB

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    24. Re:Honda Stereo Security by 75th+Trombone · · Score: 1

      To be fair to GM, you really should have been negatively reinforced every time you took your keys out (keys out == no more bing), and then noticed the time taking your keys out didn't make the sound stop. There's gotta be at least like two or three seconds between the time you pull the keys out and the time you shut the door.

      I'm just sayin' is all.

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    25. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Wolvey · · Score: 1

      In my 1995 Honda Accord, the 4 digit code can be found under the removable cupholder.

    26. Re:Honda Stereo Security by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      Unless the seats were made from baby seal pelts and the outside was not paint, but a coating of platinum, I'm continuing to call bullshit.

      Also, your username is displayed above your post, manually typing your name (or initials) after your post is redundant. If you want it after every post you make, learn2sig.

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    27. Re:Honda Stereo Security by alienw · · Score: 1

      Only if you don't know what you are doing. Reboot, go into single user mode, voila. Or just use a boot floppy/rescue CD.

    28. Re:Honda Stereo Security by jddj · · Score: 1

      Ah, GM - the company that gave us the Chevy Monza: had to take the motor mounts loose to change the back two sparkplugs!

    29. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of a useless feature on a GM product...
      The "low traction" light on cars that have ETS or whatever traction control system installed. As if the slipping and not going wasn't an obvious clue. The other semi-useless feature is the switch to disable ETS, it's only plausable merit is power launching on dry solid pavement. But opportunities to really use that are quite limited.

    30. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't have to be 100gbps to be using fiber cables. Just low quality fiber at a few kpbs would be plenty and cheap.

    31. Re:Honda Stereo Security by amuro98 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My dad bought the Taurus when it first came in out '84 or so. He spent extra to get the electronic LED dashboard. Had all sorts of nifty things like different computational settings to show how many miles to the gallon you were getting, average speed, etc. Well, unfortunately the bulb for the panel didn't last very long. After about 8 months or so, it would burn out. The bulb itself wasn't too expensive - maybe $3. However, getting to it required 2 mechanics 2 hours to remove the entire dashboard, 1 minute to replace the bulb, and then another 2 hours to put the dashboard back.

      One time he got pulled over by a cop. The cop asked "Do you know how fast you were going?" to which dad honestly replied "No." The cop saw that the dashboard was burned out, and let him off with a warning.

    32. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Damvan · · Score: 1

      My 2001 Volvo is similar. When I had removed the stereo to attempt to install an Ipod adapter, I accidently unplugged the head unit. Big mistake. It cost me $250 for them to reset the computer so the airbags would work! Unplugging the stereo causes the airbags to cease functioning!

    33. Re:Honda Stereo Security by sycotic · · Score: 1

      Just make sure you also take down the details of the dealer they bought it from and you'll be fine :)

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    34. Re:Honda Stereo Security by barzok · · Score: 1

      When I asked GM about the stupid design, they told me that they weren't sure if it was even technically possible to install an aftermarket deck, and that this is something that the majority of consumers want.
      Yeah, I'm sure GM's customers were begging for this "feature".

      More like "the majority of customers haven't complained, therefore they must want it."
    35. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

      I really think people need to stop busting GM's balls over cars from 30 years ago. Do you remember the late 70's Toyotas or Hondas? They weren't really very impressive cars either.

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    36. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They've been doing similar things at least as recently as 1998. Buick Rivieras produced between 1995 and 1998 require the engine to be disconnected from one engine mount and lifted partially out of the car in order to change...wait for it...the BELTS!!!

    37. Re:Honda Stereo Security by GiMP · · Score: 1

      No, not really. The majority of consumers buy the radio as part of the car, just like any other part of the electrical system.


      In America. Doing that in some places in the world would make the car much less marketable.
    38. Re:Honda Stereo Security by LordEd · · Score: 1

      A sample module can be found here listed at $99.99. I may have remembered $150 with installation included (and in CAD).

    39. Re:Honda Stereo Security by LiENUS · · Score: 1

      That low traction light is also used for ABS

    40. Re:Honda Stereo Security by LiENUS · · Score: 1

      Thats what you get for buying FWD, RWD cars don't have this issue

    41. Re:Honda Stereo Security by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

      Ok, so yank the head unit, copy the VIN, and check the dealers decal/license plate frame on the back of the car. Why does it have to be so hard just to steal a simple radio?

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    42. Re:Honda Stereo Security by jddj · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure the Monza was RWD... Yep

      parent's parent probably is forgetting how much GM cars of the era sucked in comparison to Japanese and European contemporaries.

      I think all the cars have come a long way since then - the reliability of my Brazilian-built GTI is the best of any car I've owned. US cars have improved too, but my family's experience is that it's a reasonable expectation that a US vehicle will fall apart faster than a decent (bigger name) import.

      What I really miss is the flavor of the early era of international competition in the auto market. German cars smelled German. Japanese cars were weird! Things were a lot more fun for the auto fan.

    43. Re:Honda Stereo Security by skintigh2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, my door chime stopped working one day when the little button on the door wore out. I thought it was good, too, until one morning it was really stormy so I turned on my headlights on the way to work, where they remained on all day, and I got to jump the car, in the rain, in a huge puddle after work. Then I did it 3 more times. I can jump a car in 45 seconds now.

      I turned down an offer to have the button fixed for $50 figuring I could do it myself faster and cheaper. I was wrong on both counts. I bought replacements for not much less, spent 3-5 hours in 80-90 degree 80% humidity weather losing parts inside my door, breaking grounding wires, debugging wiring harnesses with a volt meter, and basically losing my mind.

      But it works, damnit.

    44. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Eccles · · Score: 1

      Maybe, but it's only American cars I've ever noted that tie the remote lock mechanism to the horn, rather than a distinct chirp like my Sienna's. The horn sound is specifically chosen to be startling, and it's annoying as hell when one of then beeps from a foot or two away from you.

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    45. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      if it was LED there wouldn't be a light behind it, if it's LCD that would make more sense

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    46. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      "not impressive" is hardly the same as "brain damaged design"

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    47. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... Which is fine until one day, your trusty, faithful GM car which is otherwise running /just/ fine, has the radio head unit die on you.

      At that point, not being able to put in an aftermarket radio (cheap) may force you to decide between just hearing only engine noise, or getting a GM radio replacement (expensive.)

    48. Re:Honda Stereo Security by desenz · · Score: 1

      Nah, my Nissan honks with the remote locks. My girlfriends Rav4 has the chirp. I guess the horn is just cheaper to implement.

    49. Re:Honda Stereo Security by ursuspacificus · · Score: 1

      If you have any particular desires with regard to your automobile purchase, considering a GM product is probably the last thing you should do... Remember: At Senate hearings in 1955, Charlie Wilson, the chairman of General Motors, summed up G.M.'s philosophy: "What's good for General Motors is good for the rest of America."

    50. Re:Honda Stereo Security by me3head · · Score: 1

      Its called MOST (Media oriented systems transport) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Oriented_System s_Transport

    51. Re:Honda Stereo Security by me3head · · Score: 1
      You are, like so many others, mangling the quote. What he actually said was:

      "because for years I thought what was good for the country was good for General Motors and vice versa."

      Wilson's nomination sparked a major controversy during his confirmation hearings before the Senate Armed Services Committee, specifically over his large stockholdings in General Motors. Reluctant to sell the stock, valued at more than $2.5 million, Wilson agreed to do so under committee pressure. During the hearings, when asked if as secretary of defense he could make a decision adverse to the interests of General Motors, Wilson answered affirmatively but added that he could not conceive of such a situation "because for years I thought what was good for the country was good for General Motors and vice versa." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Erwin_Wilson
    52. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, you drive a stick?

    53. Re:Honda Stereo Security by ursuspacificus · · Score: 1

      Nevertheless, he said he thought what was good for GM was good for the country... OK... I admit I got it a little wrong... I used a paraphrase rather than a direct quote. I fail to see a difference in the spirit of the two statements. General Motors had operated from a position not unlike the position Microsoft is in now... Dominant, arrogant, greedy, and deluded. I, for one, prefer to let them make their own gravy and stew in their own juices.

    54. Re:Honda Stereo Security by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      A prybar?

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    55. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Rudeboy777 · · Score: 1

      I'm far from a GM fanboy, but why would something the long-dead CEO of GM said over 50 years ago matter today?

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    56. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Askmum · · Score: 1

      I've always wondered. Why are there these stupid audible warnings in US cars? I mean, you will see if a door is open, wouldn't you? Or maybe some light or message on the dashboard would have sufficed?
      Do US carmakers think their customers are blind?

      Mind you, I see that as a very likey option.

    57. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ummm, yeah. Cos things that were said by dead people just have no relevance now, do they?
      An learning history is irrelevant too, eh?

      Dumbass.

    58. Re:Honda Stereo Security by DriveDog · · Score: 1

      Would anyone be annoyed if I said the code can be found without making such a call?

    59. Re:Honda Stereo Security by OfficialReverendStev · · Score: 1

      I've got a Pontiac G6. There's no way you could replace the stereo in that. First, it doesn't seem to be a unit that you can just slip out (at least that's how the front bezel appears, it's probably a self-contained unit behind that). But, most importantly, it's not just a stereo. It's also the interface to the car's computer which can adjust settings like automatic headlight activity, keyless entry and keyless start options and a hell of a lot more. Serves as the tripometer too. When I bought the car I initially had the intention of replacing the stereo until I discovered all that it did. It turns out to be a fantastic stereo anyway, so it wasn't a problem. Still, mp3 capabilities or at least an aux input would have been nice.

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    60. Re:Honda Stereo Security by LiENUS · · Score: 1

      Thats strange because he mentioned a Buick Riviera, not a monza. and the Buick Riviera in 1998 is in fact front wheel drive.

    61. Re:Honda Stereo Security by orclevegam · · Score: 1

      I think the intent was to make you aware in the case where the door was slightly open (IE you didn't close it all the way). I haven't noticed that feature in any of the newer US cars. I know it's not in mine even if my car is technically not a US car (Honda, it was built in the US, but not sure if it's the same as it is in other parts of the world or not).

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    62. Re:Honda Stereo Security by amuro98 · · Score: 1

      Whoops, you're right. I meant LCD, not LED.

    63. Re:Honda Stereo Security by CommanderData · · Score: 1

      A lot of higher end car manufacturers use fiber optic rings in the vehicle. My Mercedes has a fiber network in it. Pisses me off because I can't replace the stereo in it due to the fiber and integration of various car systems on that ring.

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    64. Re:Honda Stereo Security by sjames · · Score: 1

      Anyone who designs a feature like that should be condemned to travel around the world personally fixing every instance.

      There is absolutely no excuse for dashboards without access to absolutely everything from the front in pull out panels. That goes doubly for things like incandescant light bulbs that will fail frequently.

  6. On my Samsung LG-series phone by charlesbakerharris · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Driving mode.

    Ugh, the worst feature ever. It would turn on silently if you held down one of the outer buttons (which my pocket did, by itself, frequently.) Then, when a call came in, it would shout, over speakerphone, "Call from... <silence, because I hadn't entered any voice recognition names>"

    Thankfully, they removed it from the more recent models. It was so damn disruptive...

    1. Re:On my Samsung LG-series phone by Boogaroo · · Score: 1

      No joke. My landlord activates this from time to time and sounds like he is practicly screaming at people when he calls.

    2. Re:On my Samsung LG-series phone by Best+ID+Ever! · · Score: 1

      My Samsung flip phone (A670) has a button on the outside for the camera. If you hold it down for a few seconds it takes a picture, even while the phone is closed. Needless to say, I have deleted hundreds of pictures of the inside of my pocket. Worse, it makes a sound as it takes a picture and there's no way to turn it off.

      There's no way to disable it aside from locking the phone.

    3. Re:On my Samsung LG-series phone by Eccles · · Score: 1

      In a similar pocket-related tech issue, I've activated the panic feature on my car's remote keyfob several times just by leaning over. Couldn't it take the simultaneous press of two buttons?

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    4. Re:On my Samsung LG-series phone by lowid+(24)+_________ · · Score: 2, Funny

      My last phone was a samsung, and it was just terrible. Made me swear off samsung phones forever due to the inane number of bugs and random shutdowns. Worst design feature, though - there were two identical buttons right next to each other on the same side of the phone, and if a call came in, one of the buttons silenced the ring and the other answered the call on speakerphone.

      There were all too many times when my phone went off in a class and suddenly a voice emerged from my pocket crying "hello? are you there?"

      p.

    5. Re:On my Samsung LG-series phone by Endo13 · · Score: 1

      Driving mode.

      Ugh, the worst feature ever. It would turn on silently if you held down one of the outer buttons (which my pocket did, by itself, frequently.) Then, when a call came in, it would shout, over speakerphone, "Call from... "

      Thankfully, they removed it from the more recent models. It was so damn disruptive... OMG, you have no idea how much that pissed me off on my old phone. Every damn time I pulled it out of my pocket it had switched to driving mode. The best part? You couldn't switch it OFF with that button while it was "ringing". (If it hadn't been possible to shut the damn thing up with the volume button I swear I would have crushed that phone into a small pile of powder.) So many times I had to let calls go to voice mail because it would have been too disruptive to answer it while it was in driving mode. I'm still debating how that phone should meet its ultimate doom. Some possible choices include drowning it in a mud puddle, driving over it with my car or death by hammer, however none of those seems severe enough to deliver justice. Or maybe I should find out who designed this "feature" and make them use the phone for two years.
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    6. Re:On my Samsung LG-series phone by benplaut · · Score: 1

      Even worse, my old Samsung had a "recent calls" menu on the outside screen. No notification until your pocket starts saying "Hello?"
      I'm pretty glad that phone broke. My new one, an older Ericsson, turns on the backlight every time you press a key with the keylock on. Pointless.

    7. Re:On my Samsung LG-series phone by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      My cellphone has a button on the outside that turns the volume of the ringer down. And even at its loudest setting, I can barely hear it ringing, especially if it's under my jacket. (I usually clip the thing on my belt.) Oddly enough, there doesn't appear to be a button on the outside to turn the ringer up, just down. So turning it up involves going through three levels of menus to get to the Ringer Volume thingy, and then hitting the up-arrow until it goes back to the top.

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    8. Re:On my Samsung LG-series phone by X-treme-LLama · · Score: 1

      Well, I do believe *driving* over it would be the most poetic.

    9. Re:On my Samsung LG-series phone by Endo13 · · Score: 1

      Good point. I'll be sure to take that into consideration.

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  7. Microwave by Wizworm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have a microwave that refuses to start cooking until it scrolls a 30 second message on a 1 line display.

    I SO want to get out my jtag programmer

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    1. Re:Microwave by Nimey · · Score: 1

      Jesus. What make/model is it?

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    2. Re:Microwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I have a GE above-the-stove microwave that not only won't let you cook until you set the date and time, but you can't even use the damn light on it until it's set.

    3. Re:Microwave by daeg · · Score: 5, Funny

      A vending machine in my building does something similar. There are no "out of product" lights, there's only a single line display. If you select something that's out, it scrolls "NO PRODUCT TO DISPENSE - PLEASE TRY ANOTHER PRODUCT OR CALL 1-800-XXX-XXXX FOR REFILLS - NO PRODUCT TO DISPENSE" one letter at a time. During which time you cannot select another product, get your change back, or do anything at all. Pressing any buttons helpfully resets it to scroll from the start.

      Oy!

    4. Re:Microwave by u8i9o0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have a GE above-the-stove microwave that not only won't let you cook until you set the date and time, but you can't even use the damn light on it until it's set.
      I was going to mention something similar.

      There's been a few blackouts lately and each time power comes back on, the display side-scrolls some text prompting to reset the time.

      I actually use the time display on the unit (and the scrolling text is distracting) so that gets done fairly quickly.

      But, who the hell thought it was important for a microwave to store the date?
      For one thing, it never displays the date.
      For another, it has no scheduling function and, even if it did, who keeps food in the microwave for longer than half a day (worst case: defrosting a turkey) anyway?

      As a user, entering "010101" completes that step in the time reset. But as a programmer and engineer, this actually bothers me.

      So, on the question of "What's the Worst Technical Feature You've Used?", I guess I 'use' the date feature to complete the reset protocol. But really, the date setting never actually gets used anywhere else so ... maybe I don't?

      Anyway, I'm sure I've seen worse features but I just had to mention the microwave.
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    5. Re:Microwave by Verteiron · · Score: 2, Funny

      It obviously needs the date so it can properly adjust leap seconds at the beginning of the year. And how else is it supposed to adjust for DST?

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    6. Re:Microwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But, who the hell thought it was important for a microwave to store the date?
      You missed the whole point.
      There are plenty of obvious reasons, like DST changes, leap seconds... After all, every self-respecting geek keeps these things in mind when using the microwave. It's a timeout. What good is a timeout if doesn't honour time?
    7. Re:Microwave by YourMotherCalled · · Score: 5, Funny

      But, who the hell thought it was important for a microwave to store the date?

      Didn't you read the manual? Chickens cook differently in odd years than they do in even years.
    8. Re:Microwave by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Funny

      If you have the same microwave that I do, it's an easy fix. Press the start button, then open and close the door quickly, then press the start button again. It will start immediately.

      They don't call it American enginerring (sic) for nothing. :-D

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    9. Re:Microwave by daivzhavue · · Score: 1

      I have that SAME microwave and was about to gripe about the same thing.
      I often wonder if that was why it was on clearance...

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    10. Re:Microwave by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Oh, and if you want to really "fix" the problem easily (as opposed to the workaround above), just build two timer circuits. You can probably build each one with a couple of transistors and a cap. Wire the start button to both the timer triggers and its current destination. The first timer should fire a couple of milliseconds after the start button is released. It should momentarily interrupt the return lead from the door switch. The second timer should fire a couple of milliseconds after that and press the start button again without triggering the timer. (Hint: use a diode or two.)

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    11. Re:Microwave by Vector7 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Does a clock which automatically adjust for DST really make my life simpler? Let's see..

      The clock on a "dumb" microwave doesn't understand daylight savings time, and I will have to adjust the time twice per year to correct it. A "smart" microwave will understand DST, so I won't have to correct it. Surely the "smart" device is more convenient, no?

      Not so fast..

      Let's say my power fails N times per year. Around here, N is probably around ten times. Every time my power fails, I have to reset the time on the microwave. On the "smart" microwave, I additionally have to re-enter the date.

      In the case of the dumb microwave, I have to enter one number for each reset, or N+2 numbers per year (the +2 being the two times per year I must adjust for DST).

      On the smart microwave, I don't have to adjust for DST, but every reset is twice as much work: I must enter 2 numbers per reset, or 2N numbers per year.

      N N+2 2N
      0 2 0
      1 3 2
      2 4 4
      3 5 6
      4 6 8
      5 7 10
      6 8 12

      Looking at it that way, the "smart" clock, being aware of the date, will only save me effort if my power goes out (or the microwave is unplugged, etc) less than twice per year. Doesn't seem very realistic to me.

    12. Re:Microwave by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can see it being useful if the oven has a shabbat mode (e.g. the light won't turn on, you can set a timer on Friday to start reheating (not cooking) something already in there on Saturday, etc.). But you say there's no schedule function, so this probably wouldn't cover yours.

      But it shouldn't require you to enter the time and date in order to use the oven. It should just be something you can enter if you want to. Also it ought to have a battery inside to avoid making you change it if power is lost.

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    13. Re:Microwave by incer · · Score: 2, Funny

      The hassle of resetting the date every time is widely compensated by that warm feeling you get when you notice that your microwave has adjusted the time on it's own...

    14. Re:Microwave by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      But, who the hell thought it was important for a microwave to store the date?
      For one thing, it never displays the date.
      For another, it has no scheduling function and, even if it did, who keeps food in the microwave for longer than half a day (worst case: defrosting a turkey) anyway?

      It was done so the microwave would adjust its performance based on how old it is. That way the longer you use it, the less efficiently it cooks food, prompting you to buy a new microwave after 7 or so years instead of being one of those consumers companies hate (that buys an appliance and keeps using it for 15 or 20 years).
    15. Re:Microwave by antic · · Score: 1

      My partner's Motorola phone *makes a noise* when you're trying to switch the volume off. Annoying.

      Say you're hiding under a bench in a conference room because Steve Ballmer is on the loose with a chair, and you want to switch your phone to silent in case someone rings you and alerts him - oh no, you don't...

      *beep*

      *struck by chair*

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    16. Re:Microwave by PayPaI · · Score: 1

      I'm not so sure I'd want to put anything in the path of the safety interlock circuit on the door of a microwave.

    17. Re:Microwave by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      It's safe unless you do something really, really wrong. The door closes a switch, allowing power to flow along a wire. If you put something in the middle of that wire, there are exactly two possible states for your device: closed, in which case it is just like a wire, or open, in which case it is just like the door is open.

      That said, if you're really paranoid about somehow burning out a transistor in such a way that your base voltage gets fed to the input and the microwave thinks the door is shut when it isn't, just use a relay instead of a transistor to break the circuit. It would be slower, but it would also be pretty bulletproof, safety-wise.

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    18. Re:Microwave by mph · · Score: 5, Funny

      The hassle of resetting the date every time is widely compensated by that warm feeling you get when you notice that your microwave has adjusted the time on it's own...
      Actually, that warm feeling is the door seals leaking.
    19. Re:Microwave by lacibaci · · Score: 1

      My GE microwave can do all kinds of fancy events, reminders, appointments and custom programs. However all is lost when there is a power outage. Even my Chinese $5 alarm clock has a backup battery...

    20. Re:Microwave by Lloyd_Bryant · · Score: 1

      Does a clock which automatically adjust for DST really make my life simpler? Let's see.. Amen, brother.

      My mother bought a couple of wonderful digital clocks, with battery backups and automatic adjustment for DST. Awesome - even if power goes out, when it comes back on the clock automatically resets itself. Just one small hitch...

      We live in AZ, which doesn't do DST. However, these awesome pieces of technology have no way to disable the automatic DST adjustment.

      Net result: Twice a year, she's early/late for something, because her clocks moved forward/back an hour without her noticing. Then the clocks get reset.

      During the two years she's had these clocks, power has only failed once. So the scorecard:

      Manual resets "saved" by to automatic features of the clocks: 1
      Manual resets "forced" by the automatic features of the clocks: 4

      Though it could be worse - I feel sorry for anyone *not* in AZ who bought one of these beauties - with the changes to DST make by the guvmint this year, they would have had to reset it once for the actual start of DST, and again when the "old" start of DST triggered the automatic code...
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    21. Re:Microwave by TrickiDicki · · Score: 1

      OK, you got me. My microwave pet peeve - that when the timer reaches zero it beeps 5 times and scrolls a message. OK fine, the beeps lets you know you're food is done. The scrolling message is cutsie/lame but no great problem. But if you're hovering beside the thing and yank the door open the moment its finished it still insists in beeping 5 times. Why??? I've just opened the door ergo I know it's finished so JUST SHUT THE F**K UP!!!

    22. Re:Microwave by gardyloo · · Score: 1

      True. However, if it's a modern microwave, it should have at least two other door-is-open-prevent-user's-eyeballs-from-melting switches hidden away; if it was built quite a while ago, I wouldn't screw with it :)

    23. Re:Microwave by dotwaffle · · Score: 1

      I'm British. I shop at Tesco. My microwave has a dial. It has no clock on it. We have a radio-synchronised clock on the wall. I win :)

    24. Re:Microwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that's the fancy Sharp microwave, you can configure most of the noises off.

      I got mine free through the internet somehow. Bless the dot.com boom.

    25. Re:Microwave by lhbtubajon · · Score: 1

      My wife's Jetta has this same "feature." Say someone in the car is sleeping, like, oh, I don't know, a baby. You want to turn down the stereo to level zero to make sure no loud radio commercial blares in and wakes him up. As the volume knob diminishes the radio noise to zero, the stereo helpfully sends a loud through the speakers to indicate that the radio is now, in fact, silent.

      Stupid Germans...

    26. Re:Microwave by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      if it's an ancient carosel like mine it will stop the beep the instant you pop the door.

      once again newer product designers are fucking retards compared to 15 years ago.

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    27. Re:Microwave by instagib · · Score: 1

      Stupid Germans...

      Stupid are only people like you who don't know that radios have OFF buttons...

    28. Re:Microwave by freeweed · · Score: 1

      I can see it being useful if the oven has a shabbat mode

      This was intended as a joke, right? I can't tell because your response seems 100% serious, and you didn't get modded up funny...

      Are people actually this stupid that they need an electronic device to remind them what day of the week it is? Do their religious convictions mean that little to them that they'll actually break them if a machine doesn't stop them?

      You were kidding, right?

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    29. Re:Microwave by lhbtubajon · · Score: 1

      ...and if I wanted the radio completely OFF during the obnoxious radio commercial break, I would have turned it off. Instead, I wanted in ON but QUIET so that I could raise the volume again slightly to know when the normal radio program had resumed.

      The point is that a loud beep at the zero volume mark is silly and unexpected behavior.

      But you knew that, of course, and were merely responding to my inadequately emoticoned tongue-in-cheek blanket "bashing" of Germans.

    30. Re:Microwave by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, I'm serious. Plenty of electronic appliances do have a shabbat mode (though you might have to investigate a little to figure out how to toggle it). It isn't meant to remind people, but to let them have some use of their appliances without actually engaging in prohibited behavior. Without it, you either need simpler devices, or it's harder to set them up properly (e.g. having to tape down the switch for the fridge lamp every week), or you have to do without altogether. It's not that people's convictions mean little to them, it's that even though their use of the machines might be limited during that time, it's better to put them into a limited-use mode rather than to have to forgo them entirely.

      Look into it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

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    31. Re:Microwave by toddestan · · Score: 1

      I have an older Sony alarm clock, and the way it handles DST is pretty simple yet effective. There is a single button on the side, that when pressed, advances the clock by one hour and turns on a DST indicator on the LCD display. Press the button again and the indicator is turned off and the clock goes back an hour. Makes the bi-yearly clock change a one click affair, where as all the other clocks you have to fiddle with them, especially in the fall when you set them back. And if the power goes out you have to press at most, one extra button when resetting the time. I'm surprised that no one else has seemed to pick up on this, it's about the best thing next to eliminating DST entirely.

    32. Re:Microwave by pedrop357 · · Score: 1

      Even better:

      Mine not only beeps 5 times when it's done, it beeps INFINITELY at timed intervals after that to let you know it's finished (says "END" on the display). Even dumber is if you yank the door with any time left, it beeps infinitely at a timed interval and displays 'DOOR OPEN' on the display.

      If you set the timer, it beeps after the end about every 30 seconds to let you know it's done.

    33. Re:Microwave by weighn · · Score: 1

      But, who the hell thought it was important for a microwave to store the date?

      Didn't you read the manual? Chickens cook differently in odd years than they do in even years. it's more widely known in France, but your should NEVER cook frogs legs during a leap year.
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    34. Re:Microwave by freeweed · · Score: 1

      It's not that people's convictions mean little to them, it's that even though their use of the machines might be limited during that time, it's better to put them into a limited-use mode rather than to have to forgo them entirely.

      I guess I'm missing something - if re-heating is OK, then why wouldn't people just use a low-power setting to re-heat their food? Again, if the religious impact is *that* important, you'd think people could actually deal with it on their own (ie: remember what's OK and what's not).

      Of course, reading that wiki link makes me wonder - if making the fridge compressor work is taboo, what happens with Orthodox who live in places where the temperature goes to -30C? No heat for a day, unless your house is the most energy efficient setup on the planet, means you're going to have burst pipes.

      On the gripping hand, I just realized I'm trying to rationally approach religion. I'll stop now.

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    35. Re:Microwave by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 3, Informative

      You really aren't understanding the issue.

      People who are observant certainly remember what is and isn't allowed. The issue is that the device needs to be flexible. If a refrigerator always lights a light when the door is opened, and always turns the compressor on when the door is opened because it's designed to expect that cold air is escaping then, then an observant Jewish person cannot use that fridge at all one day a week. He won't be able to avoid doing prohibited things if he goes to get anything out of it. So he'll have to do without altogether.

      It seems like it'd be a hell of a lot easier to just have a switch that puts the fridge into an alternate mode where opening the door doesn't make the light come on, and doesn't trigger the compressor. Then the person can use the fridge. He knows what he wants the fridge to do -- the machine isn't meant to remind him. It's just meant to behave in the way he needs it to during that time.

      Letting things work on timers or other automatic systems that are not connected to human activity which occurs on the sabbath is fine. So heat in the winter is left on automatic. It doesn't need to be turned off. There's no prohibition about having a compressor running, or having it switch on or off. The prohibition is against being the one who switches it on or off.

      Anyway, this is actually pretty legalistic and rational, if quite conservative in interpretation. Well, at least if you're treating the law you're trying to follow as an absolute given. It is something that you can have a rational discussion about.

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    36. Re:Microwave by Carthag · · Score: 1

      The microwave is perfectly fine design, but your cabling or power company or whatever it is sucks balls.

    37. Re:Microwave by alphamugwump · · Score: 1

      My parents have a truly ancient model. It doesn't have a digital display at all, just a knob and an actual bell to let you know when it's done. Actually, the knob broke off many years ago. That's why they keep an equally ancient pair of pliers near the unit.

      But it works, dammit.

      What's more annoying is the new dryer they got. It beeps to let you know your laundry is done drying. That's nice. But it keeps beeping until you take the laundry out. The damned thing will beep all night. Who the hell needs to know exactly when their laundry is done, anyway?

    38. Re:Microwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      10 power outages per year? where the hell do you live, mainland china?
      it's been over a decade since the last outage here (=germany).

    39. Re:Microwave by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      But the radio manufacturers dont want you turning the volume down for the commercials, they want you to actually listen to the commercials. So they're not gonna make it easy for you to turn the radio off during them!

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    40. Re:Microwave by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      I still fail to see why the microwave needs to know the time, or be turned on all the time...
      I already have a wall mounted clock in the kitchen, i don't need another one on the front of the microwave. And as for "start cooking at 10pm" functions, is it really hard to change that to "wait for x minutes and then start cooking" ? Is it really so hard for people to work out how many minutes there are between now and the time they want to start cooking?

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    41. Re:Microwave by asninn · · Score: 1

      Looking at it that way, the "smart" clock, being aware of the date, will only save me effort if my power goes out (or the microwave is unplugged, etc) less than twice per year. Doesn't seem very realistic to me.

      Less than two power outages per year is unrealistic? Where do you live? o.o I've only had one power outage in my life ever since I moved out of my parents' place more than ten years ago...

      (My microwave, BTW, is a sturdy old model that doesn't have fancy things like digital timers, a clock and so on. All it does is heat food, and it's been doing that without any failures for more than 20 years. You just don't get that kind of solid engineering anymore today. ;))

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    42. Re:Microwave by StoatBringer · · Score: 1

      It needs the date so it knows when it is out of warranty and can disable itself.

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    43. Re:Microwave by shabble · · Score: 1

      A "smart" microwave will understand DST


      Really?

      In which part of the world?

      In which year (in the case of the US)?
    44. Re:Microwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OT, I know, but I onced asked a vending machine stocker why nearly every vending machine I had ever seen had (at one point or another) been labelled "out of order." If this were nearly any other product, failure rates like that would not be tolerated. He said "They usually aren't out of order, but no one in their right mind is going to put a 'full of money' light on the front of a soda machine."

    45. Re:Microwave by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      As a beneficial side effect, leaking door seals mean that all your produce stays fresh longer even when not stored in the microwave.

      I learned everything I need to know about physics from Mark Erickson.

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    46. Re:Microwave by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      just use a relay instead of a transistor to break the circuit. It would be slower, but it would also be pretty bulletproof, safety-wise.

      I don't think the typical relay will withstand a bullet. But then, shooting microwaves is quite uncommon anyway.
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    47. Re:Microwave by Autonomous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Why do all microwaves beep at ear-piercing volume every time you press a key?

      The fact that the display changed is enough evidence that you registered my keypress; you don't need to emit a beep that my grandma could hear without her hearing aid (and she's dead).

      Microwave manufacturers of the world, please build something that will let me nuke a light dinner at 11:30 PM without waking up the rest of the house. Cheers.

    48. Re:Microwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microwave: 23 years. They must really hate me.

    49. Re:Microwave by ndixon · · Score: 1

      I have a microwave with such a stylish circular chrome theme on the front, nobody wanted to compromise the look by adding a STOP button.

      To start it (obviously) you press the START button.
      To increment the cooking time by one minute while cooking, you press the START button.

      To stop the microwave cooking, you have to press the START button for 3 seconds.

      Or just open the @!*&ing door.

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    50. Re:Microwave by Doc+Ri · · Score: 1

      Every little helps.

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    51. Re:Microwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most microwaves need a display to display cooking time, to use that display as a clock when the microwave is not cooking isn't a bad idea and is useful to some people. Just so long as they don't force you to set the time. My microwave is quite happy to leave the display blank if I press the stop/cancel button after turning on instead of setting the time.

    52. Re:Microwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, I read the Wiki article and I'm still confused. Is the Jewish god really so easily fooled? Seems like a god wouldn't like the peons figuring out ways to weasel around the rules.

      I really have difficulty believing any definition of the word "god" that includes any being who cares whether or not your refrigerator light comes on when you open the door.

      I suspect this god doesn't really care about the refrigerator light but rather about something else. The letter of the rule may apply to the refrigerator lights, but the intent of the rule is probably something else. By focusing on the letter of the law and disabling the refrigerator light you're probably missing the intent of the rule.

      If you think that you think that you can follow the exact same sequence of actions with the only difference being that your refrigerator light does or does not come on and you believe that a powerful supernatural being will care then I think you're deluded.

    53. Re:Microwave by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 1

      Depending on what you've got in the dryer, you may want to fold it while it's still warm to avoid wrinkles.

    54. Re:Microwave by owlstead · · Score: 1

      The most common coffee machines in the Netherlands beep just /slightly/ before stopping to dispense boiling water. And I've been training my reflexes since the MSX2 days (4 MHz home computer from the 80s). Thank you very much DE (Douwe Egberts, a well known coffee distributor over here) for warning me that I'm going to burn my fingers *again*. The other model does not have this problem (but is slower) and you cannot get the cups out without the chance to pour boiling hot coffee over your suit. If you cannot do things right, leave the features out altogether, thank you.

    55. Re:Microwave by fatphil · · Score: 1

      That would be a fantastic feature! If it had a 5 year warrantee, and was looking a bit shabby after 4, just set the date forwards a year, watch it fail, and take it back to the shop for a new one!

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    56. Re:Microwave by rew · · Score: 1

      .. power goes out ...... less than twice per year. Doesn't seem very realistic to me.

      Hmmmmm..... You mean you live in a country where the power goes out more than once every three years or so on average? Where is that? Remind me to avoid that country in the future.

      Power outages have become more of a problem since the market was privatized. but that doesn't mean we get more than one outage every few years or so.

    57. Re:Microwave by sjames · · Score: 1

      Just to add insult to injury, even with no power failures, now you have to reset the clock 4 times a year since DST isn't at the same dates as it was when the thing was made. Before the change, only people in Arizona and a few other places which don't do DST had to reset it twice a year BECAUSE it tried (and failed) to be smart.

      So, there is no clear case where it should use the date.

    58. Re:Microwave by Joosy · · Score: 1

      Fortunately the Panasonic Genius line has many models that let you turn off the beep permanently.

      Naturally it forgets this when there's a power failure, so I have long since memorized the key sequence to turn off the beep.

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    59. Re:Microwave by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      Like I said, it's a legalistic religion. There are these rules which are meant to be followed, and the rules themselves haven't changed for thousands of years. But the world changes, and so the rules have to be interpreted by people. Which has also been going on for thousands of years.

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    60. Re:Microwave by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      at least here in the uk it depends on where you live. If its urban or suburban then things are VERY reliable but rural locations are somwhat less so and short power outages (long enough to reset a PC or microwave or similar) are quire common as stuff falls on overhead lines and the like.

      also outages outside your installation are far from the only things that will reset your microwave.

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    61. Re:Microwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another potential problem: It automatically adjusts for DST. Fantastic, until
      1) Daylight Savings changed. Oops!
      2) What if you live in a region that doesn't observe DST?

      Overall, you have to change so many 'dumb' clocks, that changing your microwave is minor.

    62. Re:Microwave by Chuq · · Score: 1

      This Sabbath mode thing reminds me of some pedestrian lights in a certain suburb of Melbourne, which were recently modified (at a taxpayer cost of $30k+) so that they would operate on a sensor basis, so that Jewish people wouldn't have to push a button - as pushing a button was somehow 'work'.

      I guess I just think it is weird because whatever rules they have to follow, they were obviously written at a time well before traffic lights and microwaves. So who is it who decides what a Jewish person can or can't do with a traffic light on a Sunday (or is it Saturday)? Why is walking down the street OK, but pressing a button not OK, but standing in front of a sensor OK? Would leaning on the button be fine? Isn't it easier to just look both ways before crossing rather than get the local council to spend $30k?

      If people want to follow a religion, then do so, and if this means not using modern appliances, I guess they should take that into account.

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    63. Re:Microwave by DeXtroMe · · Score: 1

      Sooo... you took your parents' microwave when you moved out?

  8. /. editors by Nimey · · Score: 0, Troll

    Or lack thereof.

    -1, troll, here I come.

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    1. Re:/. editors by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Speaking of Slashdot, you know when you browse at -1, nested mode in a story that has 400+ comments and it gets broken up into multiple pages? So you click on page 2, and there's the very same comment that started out page one. Then you click on page 3 and still the same damn comment starting the page? Same thing with page 4 or 5 or 6. Go to the HOF and click on a story with 4000 comments. You have to click to about page 25 before you see a comment that is not the first or second post from page 1.

      That's been a Slashdot bug for years. I even reported it like 10 times at source forge. It just gets closed with some snide comment, like "stop submitting this bug" or "this is not a bug". It's a bug, they could at least leave it open or mark it unfixable.

    2. Re:/. editors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's been a Slashdot bug for years. I even reported it like 10 times at source forge. It just gets closed with some snide comment It's not an issue on the "new Discussion system", which just puts them all on one page anyway. Perhaps that's why they didn't bother fixing it recently (although it's been around since *long* before then).
    3. Re:/. editors by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      My favorite Slashdot bug is the comment counts on the Threshold drop-down menu. The count for the threshold you are browsing at is fairly accurate, as are the counts for thresholds higher than yours, but lower thresholds are severely undercounted.

      It used to work correctly. Then, one day about five years ago, it stopped.

    4. Re:/. editors by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's not an issue on the "new Discussion system", which just puts them all on one page anyway. Perhaps that's why they didn't bother fixing it recently (although it's been around since *long* before then).

      Yeah, it's also not an issue if you view in threaded mode too. But I want to see every single comment expanded when I read Slashdot. Threaded and the new system collapse them. Nested is the only way to have them all open (at least that I know of.)

      As far as submitting the bug, I think the last time I submitted it was around 2002 or 2003.

    5. Re:/. editors by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 1

      Here's another good one:

      Ask Slashdot: What's the Worst Technical Feature You've Used? 126 of 74 comments

      What the hell does 126 of 74 comments mean? That has been like that since they changed over. I build web-based apps for a living and even though this is a terrible example given we're talking Slashdot, seeing that on something I built would be as embarrassing as seeing a misspelled word in production.

    6. Re:/. editors by nuzak · · Score: 1

      The "new discussion system" is hands-down the winner for "worst technical feature" on slashdot with regards to its interface.

      Don't bother submitting bugs anymore -- they just do not care if it works or not.

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    7. Re:/. editors by youthoftoday · · Score: 1

      Forget the content. What about the site? The new AJAXing has given ZERO benefit whilst at the same time ensuring that I have to use a different browser to use it (it hangs Camino 60% of the time).

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    8. Re:/. editors by Nimey · · Score: 1

      Ah, so predicting a negative mod *can* help me get positive mods!

      I win at /.

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    9. Re:/. editors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, your Camino is just hooped. Can you guess which browser I'm using this very second?

    10. Re:/. editors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOU must be new here...

    11. Re:/. editors by Tatisimo · · Score: 2, Informative

      As a graphic designer, I often find my own business card too bothersome to make well, so I got for the simple stuff. My carpenter friend normally makes simplistic furniture for his house, choosing not to make wonderful works of art like he makes for other people. With that logic, I should assume that /. programmers would rather be modding NES pads to control their alarm clocks, running linux off a toaster, or reading comics than getting rid of minor annoyances like that one. And I like it that way.

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    12. Re:/. editors by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 1

      But for your job, you do good work, right? Well, the main developers of Slash are paid to do it. It's their job, no? This site isn't running itself and the people running it aren't doing it for free. This site touts OSS as such a great alternative to commercial software, yet it is embarrassingly amateur in so many places. And any attempt to point out problems gets ignored or shrugged off. I won't even bother trying to fix the code myself because of the attitude expressed by the janitors.

      The "174 out of 47 comments" bug? 10 to 1 says that could be fixed with a few HTML comment tags to comment out the "out of 47" text and then it would just say "174 comments". Or just remove the some text in the code. That would change it from a WTF? to useful info and I bet the fix would take 10 minutes. If it is any more complicated than that to fix, something is horribly, horribly wrong.

      I will accept that some of the other things might be much harder to fix, but they have existed for years and have been brought to their attention a number of times. I see a lot of hypocrisy when they blah, blah, blah about how much Microsoft sucks but can't be bothered to fix a broken link or a misspelled word.

      And don't think for a minute that they're modding toasters to run linux, that technical ship sailed years ago when they stopped caring. What they are doing is dicking around playing games, watching anime porn and most likely submitting stories with a cron job. What else could explain it?

    13. Re:/. editors by magicchex · · Score: 1

      Slide the slider on the left to make them all expanded. What's the problem?

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    14. Re:/. editors by treeves · · Score: 1

      Maybe it means if you choose to look at the -1 comments, they cancel out some of the worthwhile posts, so there are even fewer posts worth reading.

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    15. Re:/. editors by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 2, Informative

      Slide the slider on the left to make them all expanded. What's the problem?

      Then it shows all the comments on one page. I just tried that for a story with 3500 comments and it crashed my browser (firefox 2.0) and nearly locked up X. It worked OK in windows (also firefox 2.0), but still all the comments are on one page. So the new system only allows you to see them all on one page expanded or not to some degree. I've tried the new system before. I'll stick with the old system. At least I know its quirks/bugs/crap design and it has never crashed my browser.

    16. Re:/. editors by Tatisimo · · Score: 1

      I think we're all sitting around in our boring jobs hoping we'd work for /. We're better off in the hands of laid back nerds we wish we were than in the hand of technical drones that we're hoping not to become.

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    17. Re:/. editors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yes, I've noticed that as well. It's a damn nuisance.

      And I stopped testing Slashdot's "new" discussion system because it meant too much clicking to view comments.

    18. Re:/. editors by magicchex · · Score: 1

      Ah I see. I didn't understand the details of your issue but that makes sense.

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    19. Re:/. editors by Nimey · · Score: 1

      And now my original post is being modded troll (as I originally predicted) now that I've called attention to it.

      I'm playing you mods just like Signal 11 did.

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    20. Re:/. editors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Speaking of Slashdot...

      Yass, speaking of Slashdot. What's with the "No Comments" display option? I've hit that useless thing more than once while trying for "Nested"

    21. Re:/. editors by __aailob1448 · · Score: 1

      Yes by god! The man speaks the truth. Fix that stupid bug already.

    22. Re:/. editors by zerocool^ · · Score: 0


      I'm not here to read -1 comments. The highest a post can be moderated to without an actual moderator giving it points is +2. This is not including zoo.pl bonuses. A while ago (long before the zoo), I set my default to "Nested, Oldest first, +3 threshold". I've never looked back. The signal to noise ratio is excellent, the commentary is sound, the jokes are funny, and no one gets through to my screen (except some random zoo.pl friends) without an ACTUAL HUMAN deciding their content is worthy of my eyes.

      Now, when I got to a new browser and I don't have my slashdot cookie, I'm relatively ticked off, and I very quickly log in, so that I get my settings.

      Remember kids, for a better slashdot experience, "+3, Nested, Oldest first". Leave the moderating to the eager beavers, I ain't got time for your goatseman and your hot GNAA grits.

      ~Wx

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    23. Re:/. editors by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not here to read -1 comments....no one gets through to my screen (except some random zoo.pl friends) without an ACTUAL HUMAN deciding their content is worthy of my eyes.

      That might work for you. But it's my opinion that there is pervasive group think amongst the moderators and thus I choose to make all determinations myself. Once Slashdot implemented this feature, that was I really needed to brush off what moderators think. Besides, there are some real gems at -1 if you have a broad sense of humor and an open mind. If your humor is limited to Monty Python, Office Space, overlords, "we have always been at war with Eurasia" and DVD encryption key jokes then yes, moderation is probably for you. On the same note, if you toe the copyright/ip/patent line, moderation is probably also for you. I'd argue that you are going to miss some, no - many valid and interesting arguments and opinions. Well, I think they are worth consideration and thought anyway. You, of course, are free to let the moderators tell you what opinions are worth your time.

      As to your +3, nested oldest first comment: Consider this - browsing that way is going to show you many responses to comments that are less than +3. What's the point in reading a +3 response to a comment that wasn't up to your beloved moderator's standards? Where's the context? Does it even address the original comment or is it just spewing slashbot talking points? How would you ever know if you set your "standards" so high? An once again, why even bother?

    24. Re:/. editors by alphamugwump · · Score: 1

      Heh. I'd think a poster as "old" as the GP would have realized by now that 90% of all slashdot posts are regurgitated groupthink. And that moderation has little to do with the actual quality. If I want to, I can get a "+5 insightful" whenever I choose, and I don't know jack shit. No, the only real purpose of moderation is to get rid of goatse trolls, and to make people make themselves sound informative.

    25. Re:/. editors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Talkin about slashdot bugs, I really hate the way the layout gets fucked up when your browser window is too small for slashdots taste. Sometimes it's actually impossible to read an article without enlarging the window - so annoying.

    26. Re:/. editors by zerocool^ · · Score: 1


      It's mostly getting rid of the goatse trolls.

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    27. Re:/. editors by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Here's another good one:

      Ask Slashdot: What's the Worst Technical Feature You've Used? 126 of 74 comments

      What the hell does 126 of 74 comments mean? That has been like that since they changed over. I build web-based apps for a living and even though this is a terrible example given we're talking Slashdot, seeing that on something I built would be as embarrassing as seeing a misspelled word in production. Isn't it obvious? The first number is the number of comments you'll be shown. The second number tells you how many comments got submitted. Thus, if the first number is higher than the second one, you'll get more comments shown than actually got submitted.

      Probably they have an automatic comment generator which adds Soviet Russia jokes, "Does it run Linux", etc. In the case above, the automatic comment generator has generated 52 comments.
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    28. Re:/. editors by IpalindromeI · · Score: 1

      I guess no one will read this at this point, being five days after the story hit, but I've found the No Comment option useful on a couple of occasions. Say I read a story I think someone I know (who doesn't read Slashdot) would find interesting. They probably wouldn't care about the comments, so I modify the link I send them to end with "&mode=nocomment". Then they just see the story and don't have to wait for hundreds of comments to load.

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  9. The desktop by D+iz+a+n+k+Meister · · Score: 3, Funny

    There's a computer on my desk. Doesn't that make a metaphorical stack-overflow?

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    1. Re:The desktop by hey! · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, the worst thing about most PCs is the way the cup holder automatically retracts during a reboot.

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    2. Re:The desktop by MrHanky · · Score: 1

      Not ot mention having icons and windows on the desktop. Those should be hanging on or embedded in the wall (but wall(1) writes messages to logged in users' terminals, so that would be equally absurd).

    3. Re:The desktop by Odin+The+Ravager · · Score: 1

      True story: A few years ago, when our highschool teachers were first getting computers in their classrooms, one teacher called into the school's front office to complain that the cupholder on her computer would close every few minutes.

    4. Re:The desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about the combination sound/modem card in Packard Bell computers? I always wanted to hear the modem through the computer speakers.

    5. Re:The desktop by weighn · · Score: 1

      Well, the worst thing about most PCs is the way the cup holder automatically retracts during a reboot. This is why laptop's don't have mechanical drive trays - McDonald's was once sued over a scalding incident that left a man severely disfigured. I now have to PAY to get head and am down to my last several hundred thousand.
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    6. Re:The desktop by ThePackager · · Score: 1

      Actually that the design of virtually all desktops (with a few exeptions) is stunningly reminicient of the original TANDY, and its precompistoric ancestry - with no changes in sight!!!

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  10. LED by Fallingcow · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't know about the LED thing.

    I sometimes plug in my USB flash drive, which has a very bright blue LED on the end, just for the light.

    1. Re:LED by ATMD · · Score: 1

      Actually yes, the desktop console for my speakers (with the volume knobs and the amp circuit) has an incredibly bright blue light on the front. Before I moved my desk around so it was hidden behind my monitor, I was on the verge of sticking some masking tape over it to stop it from dazzling me...

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    2. Re:LED by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      I just set up a new server for a client a couple of weeks ago. It has such a brilliant red light for the hard drive busy light that his secretaries started complaining about the distracting flashing light in the corner. He put a piece of electrical tape over it.
       
      I've never seen such a bright LED on anything before. You could use it for a very good flashlight; I'm sure it would illuminate the whole room if the lights were off.
       
      Why do we need such a brilliant light for a hard drive busy light?

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    3. Re:LED by Doc+Ri · · Score: 1

      I just set up a new server for a client

      That's redundant. "I just set up a new server" would suffice.

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    4. Re:LED by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      But the light isn't bothering me! *tee hee*

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    5. Re:LED by DeXtroMe · · Score: 1

      LMAO. Classic. Took me a second too.

  11. Any cell phone by JohnnyGTO · · Score: 2, Insightful

    that uses Windows CE or Palm OS to run. My wifes company keeps insisting these peices of crap will make them all more efficient. All I know is the interfaces make dialing a simple call a nightmare and who wants a phone that needs its battery pulled when it locks up?

    Just last week here Verizone CE based phone continuously called me with the speaker phone on even though it was simply sitting on the cars center console! Government mandated spy feature hmmmmmm?

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    1. Re:Any cell phone by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      All I know is the interfaces make dialing a simple call a nightmare and who wants a phone that needs its battery pulled when it locks up?

      Given that that's basically all cellular telephones now (they're all little computers and always have been, but they're even moreso in some ways today, and it's true across the board) I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. I've had to do this with ordinary Motorola and Nokia phones.

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    2. Re:Any cell phone by JohnnyGTO · · Score: 1

      Wait till you try one of these stupid Smartphones, an oxymoron if I've ever dealt with one.

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    3. Re:Any cell phone by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Wait till you try one of these stupid Smartphones, an oxymoron if I've ever dealt with one.

      Well, I have a PDA, and a phone, even if I multiply one failure rate by the other it's still not all that bad.

      On a more serious note, the phone in a smartphone should really be an entirely discrete component from the computer. They have single-chip quad-band GSM phone solutions with EDGE these days, it would be a quite logical decision and it could be used to keep your phone calls from terminating based on PDA errors.

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    4. Re:Any cell phone by dingDaShan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Symbols without text for interfaces. Most people don't want to have to hover their mouse over every damn button just to figure out what it is. I don't care if it is an animation. I just want to know what the button does. Motorola and Samsung are horrible about this... making animated menus that take forever to navigate because of picture loading time. Favorite phone ever was a Sanyo 8200 that had distinct buttons for the most important features (camera, contacts, etc.) and allowed you to reprogram almost all of the buttons on the phone. Biggest pet peave: phones that have hard coded buttons to optional (only 19.95 a month) features that many people choose not to get. I hope Verizon is listening here, because I don't want 4.99 ring tone shortcut as the biggest button on my phone.

  12. Grab testicles and squeeze ring mode by spun · · Score: 2, Funny

    The sales person made it sound like a great feature. Never miss another call he said. Alerts you no matter how distracted you might be or how noisy the environment, he said. That may be true, but let me tell you, it is not nearly as useful and convenient as the sales people would have you believe.

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    1. Re:Grab testicles and squeeze ring mode by maxume · · Score: 1

      Right after they offer a demonstration is when you realize that you really could have just ordered a phone that looked o.k. on Amazon.

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  13. PC Load Letter by labalicious · · Score: 5, Funny

    PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?

    1. Re:PC Load Letter by Nimey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Paper Cartridge Load Letter. You need to reload your Laserjet with letter-size paper, as opposed to PC LOAD A4, which would need A4 paper.

      You must have a /fancy/ printer, since it can display lower-case on its status display. Mine just says PC LOAD LETTER or 00 POWERSAVE.

      There, destroyed the joke for you.

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    2. Re:PC Load Letter by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Mine tends to say 13 PAPER JAM. (I've got an ooooold LaserJet 4+ that seems to jam once every few pages. I almost never use it.)

    3. Re:PC Load Letter by twilightzero · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most likely your rollers are bad, being that age. Also you probably have a screw or 2 loose inside that holds parts in the paper path together. They're actually relatively simple to repair, but the first thing I'd do is pull the rollers and clean them all with alcohol, then take the printer outside and blow it out with canned air/air compressor. That'll go a long way to making it reliable again. :)

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    4. Re:PC Load Letter by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the hints. I'll give it a shot at some point.

    5. Re:PC Load Letter by njchick · · Score: 1

      Your letter is not politically correct

    6. Re:PC Load Letter by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Good thing they didn't pick a two letter abbreviation already in common use for a completely different part of the whole "desktop printing" universe.

    7. Re:PC Load Letter by CanSpice · · Score: 1

      * <-- the joke

      O <-- your head

    8. Re:PC Load Letter by compwizrd · · Score: 1

      I have a LJ4100n that has the 13.1 paper jam issue. Replaced the rollers, etc.. It even paper jams when there's no paper in it, some sensor is shot.

      It was cheaper to replace it with another one off ebay.

    9. Re:PC Load Letter by Akaihiryuu · · Score: 1

      I was beginning to wonder if *anyone* would recognize that. I mean sheesh, this is Slashdot, and it took 4 replies before someone recognized it?

    10. Re:PC Load Letter by Miguelito · · Score: 1

      Good thing they didn't pick a two letter abbreviation already in common use for a completely different part of the whole "desktop printing" universe. That's like the marketing genius at Sun that decided to start naming their workstations Sun Blades, just as real blade servers were hitting the market.

      Still pissed off about that one and would love to run into that person some day.
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    11. Re:PC Load Letter by jupiterssj4 · · Score: 1

      My LJ 4+ is amazing still.

    12. Re:PC Load Letter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it anything like ET Phone Home?

    13. Re:PC Load Letter by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      can also be caused by paper dust obscuring one of the optical sensors - which will register as a jam and cause the system to stop to avoid the paper getting torn inside the printer

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    14. Re:PC Load Letter by Sonic+McTails · · Score: 1

      I used to service HP printers, and in the offical service manual for the HP LaserJet 4, it actually means Primary Casette. The messages you could get were:

      MF LOAD LETTER (manual feed)
      PC LOAD LETTER (Primary Casette)
      SC LOAD LETTER (Secondary Casette)

      I think there was also a TC, but its been a few yearsl

      I'm pretty sure this joke is offical dead now.

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    15. Re:PC Load Letter by Kimos · · Score: 1

      but the first thing I'd do is pull the rollers and clean them all with alcohol, then take the printer outside and ...
      As soon as I read up to that point all I could think is "Hey... I remember that scene... I know where this is going."
  14. Similar - beeping by oyenstikker · · Score: 3, Funny

    My Motorola v260 beeps loudly ever few minutes when the battery is low. I know when it starts beeping I have another 12 hours. There is no way to shut off the beeping.

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    1. Re:Similar - beeping by honkycat · · Score: 1

      Same with my samsung something or other. Except instead of a beep, its a sort of tricorder sound every 30 seconds. It'd actually be a great voice/txt msg alert because it grabs your attention without being too intrusive/unpleasant. That is, until it's repeated every 30 seconds for an hour. Then it begins to destroy your sanity. Of course, there's no option to change / disable (even when on mute), and the sound is not available for other uses.

      The phone also ignores the mute setting for your alarms. That'd be a fine _option_, but 90% of the time, when I say mute, I really mean MUTE and don't want anything louder than the vibrate under any circumstances... oh well. It's still a huge step up from my previous Sony-Ericsson pos phone...

    2. Re:Similar - beeping by Sqweegee · · Score: 1

      That low battery thing annoyed the hell out of me on my 720 until I found a way to switch it off... why the stupid thing's battery always ran out at three in the morning is beyond me though.

    3. Re:Similar - beeping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll second that - every Motorola phone in the last several years seems to have that "feature." Useful to let you know the first time, the next 50 times are a PITA.

      The other awful Motorola feature is the side button ring mode change on the clamshell phones. Basically you press the side volume button when closed, and it changes the ringstyle (ring, vibrate etc), however when doing it, it emits a beep loud enough to hear several city blocks away, and the button is very easily pressed by accident (something else in your pocket, or even sitting down in some positions). A nice idea to have a discrete way to change it, but totally invalidated by the deafening beep and the accidental press problem.

    4. Re:Similar - beeping by dslbrian · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of an old phone I had (a Motorola 330 or 360 or something). It had the "feature" that the ringer mode and volume could be adjusted from the external keys (it was a flip phone). I kept the thing in a belt clip where the buttons were exposed, and apparently they were always inadvertently getting pressed. So the ringtone would randomly end up being anything from vibrate, to freaking LOUD, to silent, or any combination between. It was the most irritating feature I've ever had on a phone and there was no way to disable it.

    5. Re:Similar - beeping by uber-human · · Score: 1

      WHY does motorola insist on loud beeps?! I run into the same problem you mentioned all the time. In fact, I swear that beeping sound is louder than my goddamn ring anyways. What's even more annoying is the low battery beeping noise! Every minute or so, the phone emits a loud "beep", even when in silent mode. I cannot tell you how many times my phone has gotten taken away in class due to that sound, even when it's set to silent!

    6. Re:Similar - beeping by nuggetman · · Score: 1

      How do you turn it off? My RAZR and V557 before that both did it - even in silent mode it would beep for low battery. The worst was when it beeped loud enough to integrate the noise into my dreams but too soft to wake me up.

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    7. Re:Similar - beeping by darkgemini · · Score: 1

      My Motorola v551 has the same problem. In addition, it makes an annoying little chirpy sound every time the ring mode changes. Arrgh! I need a phone I can actually properly customize.

    8. Re:Similar - beeping by schon · · Score: 1

      The other awful Motorola feature is the side button ring mode change on the clamshell phones. While the feature may be on all the Motorola clamshell phones, it doesn't work the same on each..

      My v190 requires two buttons to be pressed in sequence, and it makes no sound at all when the type changes (the only indication that it changed is the LCD.)

      Yes, the low-batt beep is annoying, but not nearly as much as the Nokia (think of the beep, only *much* louder, at different pitches, and *all the fscking time* instead of once every 3 minutes, and with the LCD backlight flashing on and off.)
    9. Re:Similar - beeping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but at least Nokias let you disable the low battery beep.

    10. Re:Similar - beeping by Seq · · Score: 1

      I've got this on my e815, plus the "Voice Recognition"/"Speakerphone" (same button for different press durations) and "Camera" buttons exposed. When driving my car, I can not even begin to tell you the number of photos of my centre console I have. Or the number of times I've suddenly heard a voice asking me to speak the name of a contact to call.

      Furthermore, who decided DD-MM-YY was a good format for photo file names. It makes it bloody impossible to actually find any photo on the device if you actually use it.

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    11. Re:Similar - beeping by ssstraub · · Score: 1

      I have a V300 and it CAN be adjusted if you have a data cable ($3 on ebay) and do some research on SEEM editing. My V300 makes no sound at all when I use the side rocker button to change ring styles.

      That this isn't possible without editing the firmware is completely unacceptable. Imagine this very common scenario: You are in some location that requires you to change your ring type such as a movie theatre, church, meeting, etc. You forget to do this before hand and realize this 5 minutes into the event. So now thanks to Motorola's stupid decision, you can:
      A) Hope someone doesn't call you
      B) Open the phone, light up the screen (imagine a dark theater), and fiddle through the menus until you can change the ring type
      C) Use the quick ring type change external rocker button that lets out a very loud beep with each button press, even though you are attempting to set it to SILENT!

    12. Re:Similar - beeping by ahecht · · Score: 1

      I had the same problem (beeps in my dreams). I fixed it by editing the Gain Table to mute all external speaker system tones. This disables the annoying low battery beep, the ring style change beep, and the redial beep. It also unfortunately disables the Continental/Siren/Attention/Classic ringtones, but that's a small price to pay. You're gonna want to set offset 25 of gain_table.bin to 00. For more info, see http://xlr8.us/hofo/map.txt

    13. Re:Similar - beeping by Ben+Hutchings · · Score: 1

      D) Remove the battery

    14. Re:Similar - beeping by Kj0n · · Score: 1

      There is no way to shut off the beeping.

      There is: turn off the phone.

  15. easy by geekoid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    meta-moderation

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  16. Speaking of Microsoft... by mollog · · Score: 4, Informative

    Speaking of Microsoft (Clippy), back in the days of DOS 6.something (6.2 ?), when upgrading from a previous version of OS, if the Mircosoft installation program detected something besides a DOS partition, it would blithely inform you that it had detected something non-Mircosoft and it would take care of it for you!

    That was a disappointment.

    I lost a lot of work until I found the work-around.

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    1. Re:Speaking of Microsoft... by Nimey · · Score: 1

      Did the workaround include "don't upgrade"?

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    2. Re:Speaking of Microsoft... by AaronW · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I remember something like this on my father's computer. He was running NT 4.0 and had a program he wanted to run that required DOS. He had space on his hard drive and booted the DOS 6.2.x installation floppies. The floppies automatically detected his system and determined that the partition table was screwed up so it automatically repartitioned and formatted a new DOS partition... on top of the NTFS partition. Fortunately there was a tiny partition in front and I was able to rebuild the original partition table without any data loss since the DOS format only overwrote the very beginning of the partition.

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    3. Re:Speaking of Microsoft... by HateBreeder · · Score: 1

      It probably just over-written the MBR...
      you should have used a boot manager.

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    4. Re:Speaking of Microsoft... by CheShACat · · Score: 1

      I think it was probably more like "Linux".

    5. Re:Speaking of Microsoft... by soupd · · Score: 1

      if the Mircosoft installation program detected something besides a DOS partition, it would blithely inform you that it had detected something non-Mircosoft and it would take care of it for you!
      They've removed this feature from software but transferred it to Microsoft's legal department, but rest assured it's alive and kicking!
  17. Obviously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > What other examples of designer stupidity have you seen?"

    Windows Vista!

  18. Get this... by joto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Gore-Tex in running shoes. The water will get in at the top of the shoe (as it is only 3cm high), and never get out, since Gore-Tex is watertight. Besides, when running, my feet sweat, so water will end up inside the shoe even if it isn't wet outside.

    Handsfree with short cords. I still haven't found one that allows me to have my phone in my side pocket in my pants. And I still haven't found a bluetooth handsfree with traditional lanyard design.

    DVD-covers. They are larger than CDs for no good reason.

    Flatscreen TVs with grounded powerchords. Apparently they cause fires because the antenna is grounded too, only not to the same "ground".

    I think that's it for now

    1. Re:Get this... by Nimey · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Gore-Tex


      I first parsed that as "goatsex in running shoes". Please don't do that again.
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    2. Re:Get this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gore-Tex is designed to let evaporated water through, if you're sweating the sweat should still be able to evaporate and pass through the Gore-Tex. It's pretty much the entire point of Gore-Tex. I'm not saying that it actually works that way but Gore-Tex is still probably better than any other material for this purpose.

    3. Re:Get this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you know absolutely nothing about gore tex. Gore Tex isn't revolutionary because it's waterproof. It's revolutionary because it's waterproof AND breathable. What that means is that it will allow sweat vapor out and not let water in.

      Flatscreen tv's don't normally have grounded antenna's unless you're talking about roof antenna's, which use an earth ground. But if that's the case, then it doesn't matter that it's a flatscreen.

    4. Re:Get this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've never run anywhere where the relative humidity is 100% most of the time. Even with goretex, your feet become soaked, promptly. That's why I wear Tiva's worldwide. In the fucking jungle, my feet don't rot, and in the desert, the sand gets out quickly.

    5. Re:Get this... by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 1

      An outdoor antenna cable (or CATV coax) is supposed to be tied to the main electrical grounding system, at or near the point that the cable enters the building. This is primarily for lightning protection. Even if separate ground rods are driven (like for one of those old style large satellite dishes), the new rod STILL gets tied back to the main building ground.

      If you are getting shocks or seeing sparks when connecting an antenna to a TV set, call a qualified electrician.

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    6. Re:Get this... by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 5, Interesting

      DVD-covers. They are larger than CDs for no good reason.

      Except that they fit perfectly, 2 to a spot, in media storage gear originally designed to hold VHS tapes.

      Remember the CD longboxes of the early and mid 1980s? Same thing. More than half of the packaging was unnecessary, but it allowed record stores to keep their CD inventory in the same big wooden bins they had been using for vinyl LPs previously.

    7. Re:Get this... by srmalloy · · Score: 1

      Even cotton socks will accumulate moisture against your skin and encourage foot rot if you're in extremely high humidity; the ability of Gore-Tex, cotton, and other materials to carry sweat away from your skin depends on the water being able to evaporate, so if it's not evaporating, it just builds up. Some laws of physics you can't get around, even with the scriptwriter on your side...

    8. Re:Get this... by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 1

      Oh, I thought it was just a really crude way to keep people from stuffing it into a purse or something.

    9. Re:Get this... by theodicey · · Score: 1

      DVD cases are made to be slightly too large to fit into typical clothing pockets. So in that way, they're just like those old CD longboxes.

      Storage compatibility with VHS tapes is an afterthought.

    10. Re:Get this... by compro01 · · Score: 1

      Flatscreen TVs with grounded powerchords. Apparently they cause fires because the antenna is grounded too, only not to the same "ground".

      that's for in case that one of the connections to ground is faulty (and plus the fact that not all that many people use an actual antenna). all the grounds are (should be) bonded, so they're all interlinked, but connections to the ground can be broken without you noticing, unless ALL the ground connections go.

      this is there for very valid safety reasons and is likely mandated by FCC regs or electrical codes.

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    11. Re:Get this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Handsfree with short cords. I still haven't found one that allows me to have my phone in my side pocket in my pants. And I still haven't found a bluetooth handsfree with traditional lanyard design.

      I can't say I have ever seen this problem with it being too short. Bad sound quality, yes. Crappy painful-to-your-ears, yes. This is the best in-ear headset I have used:

      http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82 E16826106063

      Although maybe not that good for jogging cause it has a stupid volume box a few inches from the headset which will probably flop around a lot and eventually break the wires. Good sound quality though.

    12. Re:Get this... by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      Gore-Tex in running shoes. The water will get in at the top of the shoe (as it is only 3cm high), and never get out, since Gore-Tex is watertight. Besides, when running, my feet sweat, so water will end up inside the shoe even if it isn't wet outside.

      The *real* problem with this is that Gore-Tex needs to be properly maintained in order to be breathable (ie so that your sweaty feet won't make them wet on the inside). In order to properly maintain them you have to wash them regularly.

      Wash your running shoes regularly (and effectively)?? Harder than it might seem at first glance.

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    13. Re:Get this... by diamondsw · · Score: 2, Informative

      DVD-covers. They are larger than CDs for no good reason.
      Except that they fit perfectly, 2 to a spot, in media storage gear originally designed to hold VHS tapes.


      No, they don't. DVD cases are necessarily deeper, and for many VHS cabinets, won't work. Of course, they could have adopted the CD jewel case size and fit in the millions of CD storage units. Or they could have used a "slimline" design from the beginning.

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    14. Re:Get this... by h3 · · Score: 1

      I still haven't found a bluetooth handsfree with traditional lanyard design.

      Like this?

    15. Re:Get this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bought a flatscreen TV with a grounded powercord last week. It would work on some sockets in my apartment, but on the one I wanted to use it with, it made a loud buzzing noise, then blew the sockets, and the surrounding sockets. It was impossible to pull the cord out while it was buzzing, but after it finished and I removed it, the cord was really hot. Yay for flatscreens. Bought a big ass CRT instead.

    16. Re:Get this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Handsfree with short cords. I still haven't found one that allows me to have my phone in my side pocket in my pants. And I still haven't found a bluetooth handsfree with traditional lanyard design. Sony Ericsson W series do this perfectly provided you are 5' 10" or shorter and don't sag your pants like you are "street".
    17. Re:Get this... by MacsSuck · · Score: 1

      DVD boxes are bigger for the sole purpose of allowing for more marketing space. This allows them to put more "appealing" and "attention grabbing" images on the box to lure you into buying something you never intended to buy. Thats it.

    18. Re:Get this... by Digitus1337 · · Score: 1

      CDs weren't available commercially until about 1991.

    19. Re:Get this... by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      What planet are you from? You could buy CDs as far back as 1983, maybe before, but that's when I first saw them. Heck, I was a "late" adopter, I didn't start buying CD's until 1989. Philips invented the technology in 1978.

      Or did I miss a joke?

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    20. Re:Get this... by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      ...and never get out, since Gore-Tex is watertight. Besides, when running, my feet sweat, so water will end up inside the shoe even if it isn't wet outside.
      GoreTex is special because it breathes - water vapor can escape. Sure, not as well as wool, but breathability is the advantage GoreTex has over other waterproof fabrics.

      That said, I'm pretty much a sweathog as well, so I typically produce more moisture than can get through the GoreTex if I'm exerting myself. But, GoreTex overs are FAR more comfortable than other waterproof overs when I'm out in the rain, or on a boat in choppy seas.
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    21. Re:Get this... by mr_matticus · · Score: 1

      Not exactly. The thickness of the case and its overall height are 2x and 1x a VHS tape. The depth of the case is governed by the diameter of the disc, and the result is a form that isn't easily pocketed.

      The specific dimensions of the standard case are anything but an afterthought. That's not to say that one of the objectives wasn't loss prevention, but they could have been made "slightly too large" in a variety of ways.

    22. Re:Get this... by Grog6 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I was going to post this;

      Gore tex is good because it allows moisture out; unless you treat them like cheap sneakers, in which case, they will make your feet wet...

      There's always a caveat when something costs that much; otherwise, they'ld use pvc: it's much cheaper, and low maintenence.

      Gore tex is a teflon sheet, applied to cloth, with really small holes in it; small enough that water vapor passes, but not liquid water. The holes are easy to clog, and oil clogs the pores pretty well.

      Minor pain in the ass in jogging shoes, but a total bitch when you're at 40 below in BFE, looking at a fifty mile hike...

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    23. Re:Get this... by Eccles · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How many broken CD cases do you have? How many broken DVD cases? I like DVD cases a lot better, they're a lot less fragile.

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    24. Re:Get this... by kisrael · · Score: 1

      DVDs in cases look pretty decent on a book shelf.

      CDs generally don't, especially the cheap shiny plastic kind.

      Same goes for console video games.

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    25. Re:Get this... by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      Flatscreen TVs with grounded powerchords. Apparently they cause fires because the antenna is grounded too, only not to the same "ground".

      your TV is not a guitar, using it as one is probably what started the fire.

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    26. Re:Get this... by Lee+Cremeans · · Score: 1

      My family had a Sears all-in-one stereo with a Philips CD player in early 1987. This was the one with the drop-down tray loader and the bright red LED inside. We also had a few CDs to work with (I specifically remember the Big Chill soundtrack and Born in the USA). Even then it was a big deal because it was so new (to us, anyway).

      Also, we had a Betamax in 1977 and a VHS machine in 1979, a while before most people had even heard of a VCR.

    27. Re:Get this... by Trogre · · Score: 1

      Flatscreen TVs with grounded powerchords.

      Your TV does grounded power chords? Man, mine just does boring old 12-bar blues.

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    28. Re:Get this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gore-tex The neat thing about Gore-Tex is that it lets moisture out but not in.

    29. Re:Get this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gore-Tex is designed to let the sweat out. Have you ever tried one? Also, you're also not supposed to swim with it and expect your feet to still be dry. I think it was really made for just rain and small puddles.

    30. Re:Get this... by edwdig · · Score: 1

      If you are getting shocks or seeing sparks when connecting an antenna to a TV set, call a qualified electrician.

      I've found another cause for that. When Cablevision installed my cable, they put in a splitter incorrectly. They connected the incoming cable to one of the out ports of the splitter. Everything worked, but the signal quality was lower than it should have been, and I got shocks any time I touched the end of a cable past the splitter. Didn't figure it out until there was a problem on the utility pole that required Cablevision to come fix it.

    31. Re:Get this... by wesley78 · · Score: 1

      Gore-Tex in running shoes. The water will get in at the top of the shoe (as it is only 3cm high), and never get out, since Gore-Tex is watertight. Besides, when running, my feet sweat, so water will end up inside the shoe even if it isn't wet outside.


      Actually, Gore-Tex has some fairly magical properties that make it both waterproof yet breathable (read as lets water out). According to their website ( http://www.gore-tex.com/remote/Satellite/toc/Techn ologyOfComfortFrameset/index ) The pores in Gore-Tex material is 20,000 times smaller than a drop of water keeping the water out, yet 700 times larger than a water vapor molecule, allowing sweat to escape. What this means for you is that you're still going to have wet feet while you run, but you can tell all your friends you have Gore-Tex running shoes.
    32. Re:Get this... by calidoscope · · Score: 1

      You could buy CDs as far back as 1983, maybe before, but that's when I first saw them.


      1983 sounds about right, don't think they were commercially available before then. CD production didn't start in the US before 1987 - the big push was the 20th anniversary release of Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - geez has it been 40 years since the original album was released?
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    33. Re:Get this... by joto · · Score: 1

      Even properly maintained (or fabric new) Gore-Tex XCR "breathes" a lot less vapour out than your body does release under heavy physical activity. Running is heavy physical activity, you get clammy even in normal clothing, not to mention how you feel inside watertight/breathable gear like Gore-Tex. In running shoes, the main difference between Gore-Tex and PVC is that Gore-Tex takes longer to dry out afterwards, and is harder to clean.

      Not that Gore-Tex isn't useful, but it isn't magic, like marketers would have us believe. (I once visited a sports shop, where the young female clerk explained to a customer that he should choose a Gore-Tex jacket because it's breathable, and it would soon be to clammy inside the microfiber jacket. Which is exactly the opposite of the truth. Gore-Tex breathes better than e.g. PVC, but less so, than e.g. cotton or microfiber, on the other hand, cotton or microfiber doesn't protect you from the rain. The advice would be true if the customer was comparing the Gore-Tex one with one made of PVC or old garbage bags).

    34. Re:Get this... by joto · · Score: 1

      You are mistaken. If they used PVC they would have created a more useful product that would be easier to maintain and work just as well. But that wouldn't allow them to put the Gore-Tex sticker on it. So nobody sells PVC running shoes.

      Actually, for running in wet terrain or rain, what I would really like, is to have them made of some watertight material with a mesh of holes in it. That would be almost like sandals, but give you less problems with small rocks getting inside the shoe. And there is no way you can avoid getting wet anyway, so you can just as well have the holes there. Why watertight material if there are holes anyway? Because it isn't damaged by water, it dries easily, and is easy to maintain. They didn't sell this at the sports shop either.

      In hiking shoes, I have good experiences with Gore-Tex. But realize that Gore-Tex is mainly put there because it's cheaper than using good quality leather. A method that works almost as good is to put your feet (with socks) inside a plastic bag before you put on the shoes. If the Gore-Tex punctures (which will happen one day, trust me), you can still use this method, if you brought some dry socks.

    35. Re:Get this... by joto · · Score: 1

      It looks like it has in-ear headphones which is something that I consider too dangerous while biking in traffic. But it's the closest I've seen so far. Thanks, I'll check it out more closely!

    36. Re:Get this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have no idea about Gore-Tex. Gore-Tex is not watertight. Goretex impeaches water from outside to get inside - or vice-versa. But it allows steam/sweat to go through it.

      That's why for mountain running shues Gore-Tex is a blessing. I've been using it for a long time in moist environments (like the afternoon after a rainy morning) and it is just perfect.

      Of course it doesnt dry as fast as some synthetic fabric with holes, but for wet environments, it rocks. And ask any serious trekker about boots without Gore-Tex. Just my 2c.

    37. Re:Get this... by asobala · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying that it actually works that way but Gore-Tex is still probably better than any other material for this purpose.

      Paramo.

      Like Gore-Tex, but actually works ;-)

    38. Re:Get this... by Alt0n · · Score: 1

      > Flatscreen TVs with grounded powerchords Tune it away from VH-1 and you'll be fine.

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    39. Re:Get this... by gunny01 · · Score: 1

      Actually, for running in wet terrain or rain, what I would really like, is to have them made of some watertight material with a mesh of holes in it. That would be almost like sandals, but give you less problems with small rocks getting inside the shoe. And there is no way you can avoid getting wet anyway, so you can just as well have the holes there. Why watertight material if there are holes anyway? Because it isn't damaged by water, it dries easily, and is easy to maintain. They didn't sell this at the sports shop either.
      Any of these shoes by Merrell should fit your needs. I'm sure other manufacturers make them.
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    40. Re:Get this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Besides, when running, my feet sweat, so water will end up
      > inside the shoe even if it isn't wet outside

      Ahem. Gore-Tex is breathable by design. The water vapour
      that you sweat *can* get out as that's the whole point of
      Gore-Tex; impermeable to liquid water, permeable to vapour.

      Otherwise there would be no point in having Gore-Tex ( or
      Sympatex ) and we'd all be wearing waxed jackets.

    41. Re:Get this... by Mattsson · · Score: 1

      Besides, when running, my feet sweat, so water will end up inside the shoe even if it isn't wet outside. I thought the thing with Gore-Tex was that "it helps keep the wearer protected from the wind and rain, while nonetheless allowing sweat to evaporate and escape." [According to Wikipedia]
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    42. Re:Get this... by MoeDrippins · · Score: 1

      > Flatscreen TVs with grounded powerchords .


      Like Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, and the Scorpions?

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    43. Re:Get this... by sohp · · Score: 1

      You don't really understand how Gore-Tex works, do you?

    44. Re:Get this... by NotmyNick · · Score: 1

      CDs weren't available commercially until about 1991.
      My second CD player broke in that year. I owned about 180 CDs by then.
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    45. Re:Get this... by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 1

      Not sure how that could cause the shock problem, as the grounded side of all 3 ports are connected together to the case of the splitter, at least on every CATV splitter I have ever seen. Poor signal strength, yes, but not the electrical shock problem. A bad ground out at the pole (and no ground at the house) certainly could, though...

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  19. Buttons will be pressed, you know... by Keith+Russell · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My first sub-brick-sized mobile phone was a Samsung flip phone. The "flip" section was designed to only cover the keypad, leaving the screen, menu nav keys, and send/end keys exposed at all times. It also had a key-guard that, by default, would automatically engage when the phone was closed. Clever, right? (Well, for its day, it was.)

    There was only one problem: To disengage the key-guard, you had to hold down the always-exposed menu select button! Worse, if the key-guard was disengaged while the phone was closed, it wouldn't turn on again until you opened and re-closed the phone.

    I don't know how many times I killed the key-guard as I leaned against a desk or something. Most of the time, I just ended up deep in some unexpected menu, but I recall at least two accidental phone calls initiated while the phone was in my pocket. Eventually, I got a case, and tucked some paper under the button area to make it harder to accidentally kill the key-guard.

    Samsung must have gotten the hint, because my next phone didn't have any exposed keys when the flip was closed.

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    1. Re:Buttons will be pressed, you know... by Verte · · Score: 1, Informative

      Modern Nokias have the same feature- the unlock key is uncovered. Every time my father sits down, the mp3 player starts. That and phones where emergency dialing numbers are dialable when the phone is locked- I've heard "Police Fire Ambulance. Hello?" come from my pants while at work. Rather unnerving. This of course stems from a more common problem: phones don't use open source operating systems, because that'd make these stupid little things very easy to fix. Either give me that or give me a phone that doesn't need its own operating system, thankyou.

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    2. Re:Buttons will be pressed, you know... by Jonathan_S · · Score: 1

      My somewhat similar phone annoyance is with my cheap non-flip phone.
      It does have a keyguard, which require pressing 1, 2, 3 in order to unlock the phone. And that works pretty well, even though the keypad is exposed.

      The annoyance is that the backlight feature doesn't pay attention to the keyguard feature.
      There is no way to tell the phone to use the backlight only for (keypress AND !keyguard).

      I'm perfectly capable of dialing 1, 2, 3 to disable the keyguard in the dark, I don't need the backlight for that. But to have backlighting at all I have to let it run the battery down by activating, for a minimum of 5 seconds, every time any key is pressed (i.e. all the time), even when the keypad is locked.

    3. Re:Buttons will be pressed, you know... by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My Motorola flip phone has a similar problem. It has two exposed buttons that can be used (while the phone is closed) to change your ring type (soft, loud, vibrate, silent). If your phone is not already set to silent, it gives a happy little chirp every time you change the type. So I'd be walking around during the day with my phone in my pocket with occasional random beeps caused by random button hits. I'd also miss calls occasionally when these hits happened to have switched my phone to silent. Very annoying, and there was no way I found to disable these keys.

      Oh, and another stupidity with these buttons: one button was normal and the other was a rocker button (i.e. up/down style button). To change your ring type, you had to hit first one of them, entering "change ring type" mode, and then use the other button to scroll through the options. In a sane world, you'd hit the normal button for the first step and then use the up/down feature of the rocker to scroll bi-directionally through the options. Nope. First you hit the rocker then you hit the plain button, meaning you could only move through the options in one direction. Missed the one you wanted? You have to go all the way through until it loops again. Argh...

    4. Re:Buttons will be pressed, you know... by harryman100 · · Score: 1

      My Motorola flip phone has a similar problem. It has two exposed buttons that can be used (while the phone is closed) to change your ring type (soft, loud, vibrate, silent). If your phone is not already set to silent, it gives a happy little chirp every time you change the type. So I'd be walking around during the day with my phone in my pocket with occasional random beeps caused by random button hits. I'd also miss calls occasionally when these hits happened to have switched my phone to silent. Very annoying, and there was no way I found to disable these keys. My phone has exactly the same problem, but they decided to disable the beep, so it just switches modes without any indication of what's happening. I keep my phone on vibrate all the time because I don't like to disturb conversations with the ringing - but it has a tendancy to put it back on loud.

      The other annoying feature, is that when you put it on to charge - it insists on switching to loud mode. I charge my phone overnight, so the last thing I want is it on loud mode. So each time I charge it, I have to switch it back to vibrate mode straight away.

      I fully intent to fix this feature by buying a different phone - I'm just waiting for the neo1973 to come out...
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    5. Re:Buttons will be pressed, you know... by glebd · · Score: 1

      Samsung must have gotten the hint, because my next phone didn't have any exposed keys when the flip was closed.

      So was your next phone a Samsung?
    6. Re:Buttons will be pressed, you know... by tomk · · Score: 1

      I had that exact phone, with the same problem. I solved it by fashioning a paper clip into a hoop, slightly larger than the button. Then I super-glued the hoop around the button, thus creating a raised lip around the button. The result was that pushing the button against a flat surface (like the inside of my pocket) could not push the button, but a rounded surface (such as the end of a finger) could easily push it. A little black modelers paint and it looked like it should have always been designed like that.

      BTW, Samsung did not learn their lesson for quite a while. My wife's Samsung phone, two generations later than the one I had, was unlocked by pressing either a sequence of keys under the flip, or holding down a single button on the side - not covered by the flip. Neither I nor she have purchased any Samsung product since.

    7. Re:Buttons will be pressed, you know... by plover · · Score: 1
      Well, you won't get it fixed by buying another Motorola. They still do the exact same sucky thing today.

      I've even went to the Motorola hacker sites and loaded new firmware into the machine, trying to disable those buttons.

      One suggestion that's sort-of worked for me is to "lock" the volume changes. Go into Settings / Security / Lock Application. Navigate down to Settings / Audio and lock it. Now, when you try to change the volume while the clamshell is closed, it prompts you to enter the unlock code (I think the default is 1234.) If you don't want to change it, press Cancel, and you can still use the phone. You can also change the ring volume while the clamshell is open, just not when it's closed.

      It's a stupid workaround to a stupider problem, but it might help you a bit.

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    8. Re:Buttons will be pressed, you know... by Handyman · · Score: 1

      Yeah, buttons will be pressed. The key lock on my Sony Ericsson W810i walkman phone doesn't disable the "play/pause" button on the side of the phone, which manages to start music playing even if you don't have the music player app open. This is immensely useful if you want to put the phone in your pocket while listening to music, but OTOH a while ago I found myself in the middle of a concert a while ago when I found out that my phone was providing some... eh... bonus content to the concert. And the thing was even set to quiet mode. With no headphones plugged in. Go figure.

    9. Re:Buttons will be pressed, you know... by l0b0 · · Score: 1

      if the key-guard was disengaged while the phone was closed, it wouldn't turn on again until you opened and re-closed the phone.

      My two year old Samsung D600 still has this "feature", which also happens if I cancel an alarm without opening the lid. In addition:

      • It makes a sound / vibrates when entering silent mode, and none when exiting it. WTF?
      • The numeric input mode (when writing messages) doesn't have the dot. Instead, the asterisk does absolutely nothing.
      • The easily accessible contact list (one click after opening) doesn't allow adding a new entry.
      • Typing a number and then saving it to a name which already exists creates a new contact with that number. To change / add numbers to existing contacts, you have to open that contact first, and go to edit mode.
      • When trying to delete all messages, there's an extra page where I have to tick whether I want to erase those on the mobile phone and/or those on the SIM card. Of course, I reserve brain capacity to store such crucial information.
      • If I send a message, and close the lid when it confirms that a message has been sent, it interprets that as if the message has not been sent, and stores it as a draft.
      • When clicking "Send" for a message, the default option in the next screen is to send the message without specifying any recipients.
      • It doesn't understand that all names and characters at the beginning of a sentence should be capitalized by default.

      Worst device I've ever wasted money on. /rant

  20. Digital vs. analog controls by dreddnott · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Definitely digital controls for almost anything. I can't stand them.

    If you're in your car and working the climate control, those controls are analog for a good reason. You can see what they're set to and change before you start the car. Stereo systems are another great example (quickly turning volume up/down, not having it reset all the time). Analog dials of all kinds also give you far better real-time feedback about a given signal (delta, etc.).

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    1. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Kroc · · Score: 1

      Guh, that one always gets me. Whoever decided that a fifteen button combo to change the display brightness was better than an analogue roller was obviously an IBM Engineer.

    2. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by EvanED · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Stereo systems are another great example (quickly turning volume up/down, not having it reset all the time)

      Having it reset seems like a poor design decision, but it isn't an essential aspect of digital volume.

      I will actually vote for digital volume controls because it means you can change the volume by remote, BUT only if they are the dial sort of volume control rather than vol up/down buttons. With a rotary encoder you get the benefits of digital (can control it in other ways besides moving the knob) with most of the benefit of analog (quick changes, better feel). About the only thing you don't get is absolute positioning, but the benefits compensate for that loss IMO.

      Of course, this doesn't make much sense in a car where you're almost always next to the volume control anyway. (I say "almost" because I know when I was younger I would go on trips with my parents and I'd want to control the volume from the back seat. Instead, my parents acted as a remote control -- "turn it up" *turns it up* "thanks", "turn it down" *turns it down* "thanks" -- until they got fed up with that. Might also be able to come up with other situations auto volume control is useful.)

    3. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by edbob · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I actually rather like the digital controls for the climate control in my car. My old car had a knob that I would have to turn one way for "warmer" and the opposite way for "cooler". The problem was that on longer trips it was impossible to set it properly. I would have to fiddle with it every 10 to 15 minutes. On my current car, I hardly ever even have to touch the climate control.

    4. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Tyger · · Score: 1

      Digital volume is not a requirement for remote control.

      I used to have a stereo that, I kid you not, had a remote controlled volume dial. You hit the volume up or down button, and it had a little motor that turned the volume dial for you. It had the best of both worlds! The only problem was as the thing aged, the motor was starting to cause some audible sound over the speakers when it was changing the volume.

    5. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Vector7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I totally agree. My pet-button-peeves:

      Microwaves: I wish someone had the sense to build one with just a big knob to set the time, a small knob to set the power level (clicking to an off position if you just want to use the timer), and a big start/stop button. Put the timer on a logarithmic scale up to whatever the maximum sane length of time you might run a microwave for is (or use a continuous encoder with some acceleration programmed in the software), and read the value out on the display as you spin it.

      Monitors: It'd be handy on occasion to briefly adjust the brightness on my monitor, but the digital controls on all of them I've used lately are so stifling that I rarely bother. Just one little knob controlling brightness by default, or moving the cursor when in an onscreen menu, would be a hundredfold improvement. The monitors I use everyday are like minefields - sometimes the buttons aren't even labelled, and hitting the wrong one tends to make some terrible change in monitor state that takes five or ten seconds to undo, like the picture-in-picture on the bigger Dell screens, or the bizarre "highlight mode" on my old Samsung, which can't be toggled off, but instead requires digging through menus.

      Digital plus/minus buttons suck.

    6. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by wishmechaos · · Score: 1

      I really like the design of the volume knob in my amplifier. It's completely analog, but it has a little motor inside, so when you turn up the volume with the remote control, the knob turns. The ability to turn down the volume before turning on the amplifier is great at late hours.

    7. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by TREE · · Score: 1

      Mod Parent UP!
      Would you use the "three knobs" approach in a home? no. You use a thermostat. Why is that concept so odd in a car?

    8. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Mattintosh · · Score: 1

      I have yet to see a car with a properly designed climate control panel.

      Gripe #1: Most of them map non-mutually-exclusive options to a dial that forces one or more options to be mutually exclusive. Why can't I have air blowing from floor vents, dash vents, and the windshield vents all at the same time? Because the designers were too stupid. Functionally, it might lower airflow over the heat coil, but proper duct and coil sizing and damper design can fix that. The engineers were just lazy and/or the UI guy needed to be fired for incompetence. And it's "industry standard" to do it the wrong way now.

      Gripe #2: Things that shouldn't be automatic are. Why does my compressor come on when I open the vents on the windshield? Defog? Ok, but what if I want to defrost? That works better with the compressor off. But some moron from California, Texas, and/or Florida (or somewhere similarly hot and humid) decided that it should always be that way, even though it screws things up in 90% of the rest of the USA, to say nothing of other parts of the world.

      Vehicle climate controls should be something like this.

      Fan speed [-----|----] (could be a rotary knob, but needs to be a 0-10 scale)
      Temp. [-----|----]

      Floor [x]
      Dashboard [x]
      Windshield [x]

      A/C [x]
      Recirc. [x]
      Rear Def. [x]

      Auto-temp [x]


      Alas, logical design is probably too much to ask.

    9. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      Climate control on the 2007 Prius comes exceedingly close to almost perfectly match your desired featureset.

    10. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microwaves: I wish someone had the sense to build one with just a big knob to set the time, a small knob to set the power level (clicking to an off position if you just want to use the timer), and a big start/stop button. Put the timer on a logarithmic scale up to whatever the maximum sane length of time you might run a microwave for is (or use a continuous encoder with some acceleration programmed in the software), and read the value out on the display as you spin it.


      My parents' microwave has those exact controls, except that the timer is linear rather than logarithmic. It's a Samsung microwave built back in 1981, and it still runs fine.
    11. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Jonathan_S · · Score: 1

      Vehicle climate controls should be something like this.

      Fan speed [-----|----] (could be a rotary knob, but needs to be a 0-10 scale)
      Temp. [-----|----]

      Floor [x]
      Dashboard [x]
      Windshield [x]

      A/C [x]
      Recirc. [x]
      Rear Def. [x]

      Auto-temp [x]
      The controls on my A4 capture almost all of that. But they are digital buttons, rather than analog controls.

      Even so, you have temp +/- buttons (thermostat rather than simple hot / cold)
      Above the temp buttons is the currently programmed temp display
      Above that is a button Auto [x] (with an indicator to show when activated)

      To the right of the temp display are 3 vertically stacked buttons
      Recirc. [x]
      Econ [x] (force compressor off)
      Off. [x] (turns off compressor and fans)

      To the right of that is a fan speed display. (10 or 15 segment horizontal bar graph)

      Under the fan display are fan speed +/- buttons.

      Under those are front and rear defrost buttons

      To the right of the fan display are 3 more vertically stacked buttons
      Windshield [x]
      Dashboard [x]
      Floor [x]

      The interesting thing is that Auto degrades nicely. If the car is in auto and you mess with the selected vent buttons the fan speed and compressor usage remain auto but only the vents you selected are used.

      If you increase the fan speed it will take that as the new minimum but be willing to raise it if necessary. If you lower the fan speed it will take that as the new maximum but be willing to lower it if necessary.

      Around here my summer setting is 70 degrees F, 80% max fan speed (they are noisy when full blast), and no windshield vent because the air from that vent hits the windshield cold enough to condense water on the outside of the windshield fogging it.
    12. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      I had a pioneer receiver that was like that. It was great, but eventually I think it blew up (literally smoked some amps) but it was nice.

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    13. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Ynot_82 · · Score: 1

      Ha! My parents had that on a Technics multi-deck hi-fi system as a kid, I'd press the volume controls on the remote while holding the dial in place cause it made a cool clicking sound (plastic gears jumping over each other)

    14. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by nasch · · Score: 1

      Of course, this doesn't make much sense in a car where you're almost always next to the volume control anyway. It makes sense when you have steering-wheel audio controls and/or automatic speed-sensitive volume.
    15. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      I like the ones where it assumes that you enter cook times in whole-minute increments and doesn't wait for you to hit 'start' if the door is shut. If you want to add 30 seconds, there's a specific button for that. I don't know anyone who uses a microwave for finer units of time, and it saves on button presses (e.g. cook for five minutes by pushing 5 instead of 5,0,0,enter).

      Of course, I think Pogue suggested that microwaves should have a barcode reader, and food packaging should have barcodes that provide cooking instructions. That way you could just swipe the box or tray or whatever and otherwise generally ignore it. RIFD might be good for this too. Well, once.

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    16. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by physicsdot · · Score: 1

      Microwave ovens with two dials - one for time and one for power, are easy to use. Our digital one is complex to use, and then beeps every minute until you open the door to tell it to shut up. I had to open it up and disconnect the speaker.

    17. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by StillAnonymous · · Score: 1

      Speaking of digital/analog controls in cars, my factory Infinity car stereo has an analog "joystick" for setting the balance between left/right and front/rear. It's the most awkward thing ever. It's almost impossible to set to centre because it's so touchy. And because it's so touchy, it always gets knocked out of whack whenver you put a drink in the holder, or brush against it while adjusting the volume (which, go figure, happens to be a digital control).

      Worst stereo control I've ever used.

    18. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Used hp p920, formerly professional grade. does 1920x1440 at like 85hz,

      best part? contrast and brightness buttons on the front.

      I'd lost all faith in technology when things went digital controls too.

    19. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by cos(x) · · Score: 1

      [...] microwaves should have a barcode reader, and food packaging should have barcodes that provide cooking instructions.

      Believe it or not, Samsung actually make microwaves that can do this. And I have also seen the corresponding barcodes on M&S food packaging.
    20. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 2, Informative

      Many high-end receivers have this feature. It's pretty nifty.

    21. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 1

      Worse are the "smart" climate control systems in some cars (like Saabs) where you set a desired "target temperature" and then the system adjusts the other settings automatically. Sounds great, until you reach the situation where you're quite happy with the current temperature but you can't get the system to stop blowing air no matter what temperature you set it at. For a simple task like this, it's usually preferable to just control the (few degrees of) settings yourself.

    22. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by totoanihilation · · Score: 1

      Microwaves: I wish someone had the sense to build one with just a big knob to set the time, a small knob to set the power level (clicking to an off position if you just want to use the timer), and a big start/stop button. Put the timer on a logarithmic scale up to whatever the maximum sane length of time you might run a microwave for is (or use a continuous encoder with some acceleration programmed in the software), and read the value out on the display as you spin it.
      Funny. My microwave works almost exactly as you specify. One know for power, and one knob for minutes (I believe the minutes count up to 25. I've never needed anything longer than that). It starts as soon as you turn the time dial, and stops if you open the door or move the dial back to zero.

      It's 20 years old.
      Why did things get so complicated?
    23. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by dcam · · Score: 1

      I like the ones where it assumes that you enter cook times in whole-minute increments and doesn't wait for you to hit 'start' if the door is shut. If you want to add 30 seconds, there's a specific button for that. I don't know anyone who uses a microwave for finer units of time, and it saves on button presses (e.g. cook for five minutes by pushing 5 instead of 5,0,0,enter).


      Melting butter is 30 seconds.
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    24. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Aluvus · · Score: 1

      Microwaves: I wish someone had the sense to build one with just a big knob to set the time, a small knob to set the power level (clicking to an off position if you just want to use the timer), and a big start/stop button. Put the timer on a logarithmic scale up to whatever the maximum sane length of time you might run a microwave for is (or use a continuous encoder with some acceleration programmed in the software), and read the value out on the display as you spin it.

      Samsung has a low-end model with 2 big knobs. The time knob works like many egg timers; it just gradually rotates counter-clockwise until it clicks to 0, and then cooking stops. It doesn't work very well in practice, largely because time increments below 1 minute are impossible to gauge and it screws up if the time knob is bumped while it's running.

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    25. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Microwaves: I wish someone had the sense to build one with just a big knob to set the time, a small knob to set the power level

      My two year old microwave has this and may well still be in production.

    26. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by nolife · · Score: 1

      The theory of using the compressor in defog mode is a sound one.

      Air chilled through the AC coils contains less moisture, less moist air blowing across your windshield will defog the inside of window better. You windshield will only fog up if the air in the car and around the windshield is moist, blowing more of the same moist air is not the best way to defog it. I have a car without AC, when it is above 65-70 degrees and raining, I have a hell of time trying to defog the window, even more so when I just ran to the car and I am a little wet. I end up cranking the defrost on high with heat and have to put down the windows enough for flow but not enough to get wet. The "high" and heat will heat up the window and evaporate the moisture but it still does not work well because I am blowing moiste air there anyway and I end up being hot as hell and still can't see good. You may not realize how much running the compressor helps because you you have not experienced one that did not run on defog. Maybe you have no AC and have been getting lucky. On that note, most cars have a temperature setting that the compressor will be used when in defrost, anything under that temperature and the compressor will not be used. I think the setting is typically in the upper 50's and 60's. Meaning.. If the outside air temperature is below the set point, the compressor will not come on when you are in defog mode. Air at or below that temperature range does not normally hold enough moisture to cause fogging and the non conditioned fresh air from outside is dry enough to defog.

      A side effect of having the compressor running in defog for a long period is you get moisture on the outside of the windshield because the window cools down and moisture forms. To combat that, turn the temperature up a little. If your windows are fogging up all of the time, make sure your car vents are not blocked (typically near the back windows somewhere or in the hatch, and/or leave the fan on low and have it blow onto the floor. This will provide enough "fresh air" to keep the interior air from getting stale and prevent a buildup of moisture which will then allow you to turn off the defog which will prevent the outside from getting moisture.

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    27. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by EvanED · · Score: 1

      You know, I've thought about this before, and that's another way of doing it. I've wondered if anyone actually did it that way; it's interesting to know that the answer is yes. Seems like, since this gives you absolute positioning too, it would be even better than the rotary encoder approach.

    28. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      In which case you just hit the 'add 30 seconds button,' rather than one of the digits.

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    29. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you share the manufacturer and model number, please?

    30. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by adolf · · Score: 1

      Microwaves:

      When I was a kid, we had a big combination range/oven with an integrated, overhead microwave, branded Kenmore. It had a timer knob, and a power knob, a start button, and a door open button. The timer wasn't logarithmic, but did have two zones where the friction/gearing/whatever was different: IIRC, the first half of the knob's range of motion was good up to about 15 minutes, and the last half was harder to turn through, and would let it run for up to an hour. There was a mechanical bell, activated as the timer expired, which sounded a single, very clear "Ding!" to announce that it was done.

      It still exists, and works fine. I know where it lives. And: I'd be happy to broker the purchase for you, if you'd be interested in procuring such an antiquity.

      Monitors:

      I do not know what you're after, exactly. It sounds like you want either easily-selectable presets, or just a way to boost brightness temporarily.

      My ViewSonic P95f+ CRT has a magic button on the front panel (easily identified by being the left-most button) which vastly increases brightness. Three modes: "NORMAL:TEXT/SPREADSHEET", "ULTRABRITE 3x:GRAPHICS/GAME", and "ULTRABRITE 4x:VIDEO/MOVIE/DVD". I've used it about twice in the three years I've had the monitor; it's not very appealing to me...

    31. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by freeweed · · Score: 1

      Hell, a $300 Sony receiver I bought in the early 90s had this feature. I guess that seems expensive now, when you can get the entire kit (including DVD player and beer fridge) for less than that.

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    32. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by EvanED · · Score: 1

      I wish someone had the sense to build one with just a big knob to set the time, a small knob to set the power level (clicking to an off position if you just want to use the timer), and a big start/stop button. Put the timer on a logarithmic scale up to whatever the maximum sane length of time you might run a microwave for is (or use a continuous encoder with some acceleration programmed in the software), and read the value out on the display as you spin it.

      My oven has this. It goes up by 5 seconds to 2:00, by 10 seconds to 10:00, by 1 minute to 1:00:00, and 5 minutes thereafter. (It might go up again after that, I don't know. I've only used it to about 30 minutes, and just tested after an hour now.)

      This is in part because the actual rotary encoder sucks and it will occasionally go in the opposite direction you turn it, but I find it really obnoxious, in part because higher times take a while to get to. This is probably far less of a problem in a microwave where things are often less than a minute, but to get to the 7 minutes I cook pizzas for typically takes 2 "resets" of my hand position and getting to the 25 minutes for mac&cheese takes 3. Still, I don't think I'd like that interface for the microwave.

      I kind of like my microwave's interface. The button I press most frequently is "+30" which adds 30 seconds to the time and starts cooking if it's not already. This is pretty darn convenient; a lot of the time, what I do is just one key press away. Less nice is that the 1-9 buttons do the same with 1-9 minutes. To get to where you actually enter the time in the traditional sense, you have to press another button first. By contrast, my parents' microwave you just started typing then hit start. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Probably a combination of the two is best; work like my parents' microwave, but add a +30 button.

    33. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by EvanED · · Score: 1

      You could do the same thing better with a rotary encoder though.

      Agreed that analog dials suck. My dorm came with a microwave (and fridge!) in each room, but many of them had analog dials and they were obnoxious. I eventually gave up with them and just rotated them to about 15 minutes and timed them out-of-band with the countdown timer on my watch.

    34. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by zobier · · Score: 1

      Continuous rotary encoders with integrated push button FTW! Unfortunately they're impossible to find as discreet components for the electronics tinkerer here in .au :(

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    35. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by dcam · · Score: 1

      Slashdot ate the <

      That should have read:
      Melting butter is < 30 seconds.

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    36. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      Well, I suppose you can run it for 30 seconds and just stop it after 15 or 20 or whenever. That's short enough that you can probably just wait at the thing. I admit that that's a case where this wouldn't be ideal, but OTOH, most microwave cooking probably doesn't involve melting butter or doing anything else that requires using the microwave for something that can't be put at 30 second intervals.

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    37. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      funnily, the cheapest microwaves over here in germany are all-analog: there's a dial, like an old kitchen shorttime clock, and another dial for the power. that's it.

    38. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by nachoboy · · Score: 1

      Microwaves: I wish someone had the sense to build one with just a big knob to set the time, a small knob to set the power level (clicking to an off position if you just want to use the timer), and a big start/stop button.

      You just described my microwave, which improves on your design by making the door the start/stop button. Basically if the timer is on and the door is closed, the microwave is operating. Very handy when you interrupt cooking to stir or check the contents - simply shutting the door resumes cooking. Pic here (sorry for the quality, it's a cameraphone): http://s87598121.onlinehome.us/images/pic-0003.jpg

    39. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol - I have a microwave like that. Its a Toshiba that my mother got for a wedding present in 1983. It has a switch for the power level, a knob to set the time and a start button.

    40. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Analogue controls on a recent microwave? Mistral brand - from China - Model BMO400.

      Odd thing is on the back in large letters are the words "DO NOT IMMERSE" - I'm sure there is a story worthy of Homer Simpson behind that one.

    41. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by MoogMan · · Score: 1

      My microwave has one rotary knob for time, and that's it.

      You don't need a start/stop button, and a logarithmic scale isn't necessary unless you plan to cook things for half hour :-)

      There is also no need for a display, as the time is printed on the outside of the time knob.

    42. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A man after my own heart! You would probably like a couple of articles I wrote at K5 a few years ago (before Pete pissed me off enough to swear off of K5), Useful Dead Technologies and Good Riddance to Bad Tech.

      One of the useful dead technologies was analog controls. At the time, my car had a stereo with no knobs at all. You couldn't adjust the volume without taking your eyes off the road, or adjust the tone at all unless you were stopped or had a passenger that could do it for you.

      Thankfully, my new(er) car's stereo has a volume knob (alas, it's still digital so you can't turn it down before starting the car) and analog sliders for the tone.

      -mcgrew

    43. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Mattintosh · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, that theory falls apart in January in areas north of 35 degrees latitude. When there's anywhere from a skim of frost to an inch of ice on the window, turning on the compressor is exactly the worst thing to do. Most obviously, it fights the heater by chilling the air (needlessly, it's already bloody cold). Less obviously, it provides NO help in clearing the windshield, since there's already no humidity in the already-freaking-cold air.

      Now, "nicer" cars might have the extra fifty-cents-worth of parts needed to disengage the compressor when it's below the A/C setpoint outside, but for some reason, cheap cars don't have that, despite the apparently low cost of the feature.

      Again, "defog" is not the same as "defrost". If you need defog, then great. Turn on your compressor yourself. If you need defrost, you don't want the compressor coming on automatically.

      I still stand by my original statement. It's a stupid anti-feature.

    44. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sir have described my optimal microwave. I have given this much thought. Also, there should be a "beep" on/off toggle.

    45. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by nolife · · Score: 1

      If your car does not have that option, it is the exception and I agree it should have it. My cheap Hyundai has it and every car I've owned since the early 90's has had that option (Ford, Chevy, Chrysler). You might want to check out your car and see if it really does not have that ability. If your car does not have that option, that is the problem and the "design flaw", not the overall concept that other cars have the compressor running automatically above some temperature when in defrost.
      Manual control of the compressor does seem like a better choice for some people but I'd wager that a huge amount of people would complain about defogging not working because they did not think to turn on the compressor. I would say that reason alone is probably why the compressor running with a temperature cutoff circuit is standard across the board now, with the obvious exception of the car you have ;)

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    46. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by nasch · · Score: 1

      I used to think I didn't like automatic climate control, based on my experience with a BMW. Constant fiddling, temperature controls were placed in various locations, never liked it. Then we got our Honda Odyssey with the feature, and it just works. I set the temperature about where I want it and leave it alone. Sometimes I have to manually tell it blow air on my feet, and sometimes I have to turn it artificially low to compensate for sun right on my face, but generally I don't have to touch it. And of course if I want it to stop blowing air, there's this nice little Off button. :-) But that rarely gets used, compared to the manual control in the Subaru, which is frequently off because in the morning the inside of the car is comfortable so I don't need to cool it down so I need to have it off to not blow cold air, or it's cold but the engine isn't warm yet so I have to have it turned off to now blow cold air. In the Honda as the engine warms up the fan automatically picks up to warm up the car. I guess some car companies have figured how to make nice auto climate control and some haven't - either that or I just happen to like how Honda's works.

    47. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 1

      You may not realize how much running the compressor helps because you you have not experienced one that did not run on defog.
      I drove a 94 SunBird without air conditioning for a little over three years, and it was fine. I occasionally had trouble keeping the windshield unfogged, but only when it was both very humid and it had been more than six months since I'd washed the inside of the windshield.

      My 2004 SunFire does turn the air on for defrost/defog, and it doesn't seem to work any better (I know the theory, and I'm sure it *is* better, just not enough to make a difference). It just makes me feel guilty about running the A/C when I don't need it.

    48. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 1

      Absolutely. My car has a knob with internal circulation, middle vents only on one end, and defrost/defog with and without floor vents on the other end. The air conditioning comes on automatically with both internal circulation and defrost.

      I frequently do want the A/C on with internal circulation; that's the best way to keep it when it's hot out. I also want it blowing at my feet, though, and that's not an option. And sometimes I'm not hot, but just driving behind a stinky car.

    49. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by EnglishDude · · Score: 1

      My microwave does what you say :) It has a nice big knob, and 3 buttons. If I want to cook something at full power, I don't need to press the power button - I just twist the knob until the digital display show the time I want - the faster I spin the knob, the faster the digits goes up - then press start. It's good because I've got the microwave for so long, I now know exactly how much to twist the knob to get what time I want. If I want lower power, I just press the power button until I get the desired percentage, then twist the knob to get the time and press start. Same for "defrost" but I can choose between time or weight. It apparently has auto cook but I've never used it. Best digital microwave I've ever used if you ask me.

      Very similar to this one but not a convector microwave, and has much less buttons.

    50. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by ahecht · · Score: 1

      You must be from somwhere where the temperature doesn't drop below freezing. While the compressor is essential for defog mode, it is detremental to DEFROST mode (you know, as in removing FROZEN water from the window)

    51. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by nolife · · Score: 1

      No, all of my cars have a sensor that disables the compressor when in defrost/defog when the temperature is below a certain point. That point is somewhere ABOVE the freezing mark. Most cars have this. I was trying to point that out in my initial post.

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    52. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      both the reasonablly modern tuner/amplifiers (one technics one sony) my parents have purchased have this feature, its not anything particularlly unusual you just don't see it on low end gear because of the cost.

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    53. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by plover · · Score: 1

      Of course, I think Pogue suggested that microwaves should have a barcode reader, and food packaging should have barcodes that provide cooking instructions.

      Target used to sell the Beyond microwave oven by Westinghouse. It just used the ordinary UPC barcode on the food and looked up the cooking time for that food in its database. It could also learn your cooking times for whatever barcodes you fed it. But they screwed up the user design by making the barcode reader a wand-type instead of a grid scanner. You had to actually take the reader out of its pocket and swipe it across the barcode manually -- how gauche. I mean if you're going to be too lazy to read the side of the food packet and punch 2-0-0-start, what makes them think you'll want to pick up a wand?

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    54. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Tyger · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I considered the stereo I had it on to be pretty low end. It was a fairly cheap-ish (For the time) integrated tape, radio, CD player with EQ. It was so cheap they had to include an un-powered sub just to make up for the junk speakers which had no bass response.

    55. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by yuriks · · Score: 1

      My old Philips stereo had a fully digital volume knob that worked with it in standby.

  21. Handspring World Clock by njchick · · Score: 4, Informative

    In Handspring Treo 180, there was a "World Clock" program that could display time in any timezone. It allowed to change my current timezone, but it would not change the time! So I move between timezones, I would need to update the timezone AND the time. Perhaps the software was not tested on real word travelers.

    1. Re:Handspring World Clock by Omestes · · Score: 1

      On that; My vote would be for the automatic DST feature of almost every clock made these days. I live in Arizona, so I don't need to deal with this silly clock setting crap, but now I do. I have to set my clock to compensate for the lack of DST. Its a nice feature, I'm sure, for those of you who do have to live with it, but it should be disable-able. Actually I think that most 'features' should have an off switch, since it seems that that is the main objection to most dumb features in this thread.

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    2. Re:Handspring World Clock by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

      Its a nice feature, I'm sure, for those of you who do have to live with it Used to be, not so much now that the clock is hardcoded to change on the wrong dates.
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  22. . and .. in windows dir by DLG · · Score: 1

    So a friend of mine (really) who was forced to use a Windows 2.0 based Video Editing program (back in 90?) probably with targa boards and all that jazz, wanted to clear out some files from a directory.
    While he was looking he saw the . and .. files, and considering them as garbage (they are listed as directories in DOS even to this day) he managed to use DEL /S .. or it's equivalent to delete a filesystem.

    So I would say, listing special symbols as actual files in a dir command, is and was a stupid feature.

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    And ATM's that tell me to press Enter to Exit.

    1. Re:. and .. in windows dir by joto · · Score: 1

      My God, the stupidity!

      But if you didn't have "..", how would you do "cd .."?

    2. Re:. and .. in windows dir by EvanED · · Score: 1

      I think he's suggesting that dir hide them by default, like Unix hides dot-files.

      I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not for the DOS philosophy.

    3. Re:. and .. in windows dir by DLG · · Score: 1

      I don't believe that is what I meant actually.

      . and .. are not files. They are navigation. Even DOS doesn't consider them the same way as directories despite showing them, since if you were to delete recursively in a directory it would NOT use the ..

      By making them LOOK like they are sub directories (when in fact one symbolizes the 'cwd' and one the parent, they break the paradigm that anything in a folder/directory listing is IN that folder/directory.

      And SINCE either you know that . means 'here' and .. means 'up' then you also would know that without showing them listed. Or you don't know, and in that case they are a bunch of dots.

    4. Re:. and .. in windows dir by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Oh, actually that makes a lot of sense.

    5. Re:. and .. in windows dir by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      At a technical level they ARE in the directory, they just break the normal acyclic nature of the structure. This is true at least for fat and i'm pretty sure its true for ext2.

      deleting recursively in dos required a sepeate exe file, it wasn't something the OS did as standard and you wouldn't have been able to rd them because the directory the point at wouldn't meet the criteria for a rd to be allowed (though there may have been a seperate check anyway).

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  23. Useless feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Graphical user intrerface!!!!

  24. The Right Mouse Button by thesupermikey · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fuck Context Menus
    thats right, i said: "fuck context menus" /mac user

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    1. Re:The Right Mouse Button by Kroc · · Score: 1

      If you came across a RISC OS machine, you'd die. There are _only_ context menus, and the mouse has three buttons!

    2. Re:The Right Mouse Button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No deal. She'd have to take off the oven mitts to use such a mouse.

    3. Re:The Right Mouse Button by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1

      If you came across a RISC OS machine, you'd die. There are _only_ context menus, and the mouse has three buttons!

      Oh, it's something to do with Fitt's Law, or whatever it's called. Minimising fiddly mouse-movements.

      Windows: Move mouse up to menu line, and no further, then left or right to the appropriate menu. Click.
      Mac: Move mouse up as far as it goes, no accuracy required, then left or right to the appropriate menu. Click.
      RISC OS: *Click!*

      I felt right at home with The GIMP and its originally context-only menus, accessed with the right mouse button. Everyone else? Downright abusive. Unfair!
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    4. Re:The Right Mouse Button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      shut up faggot.

    5. Re:The Right Mouse Button by statusbar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Navigating hierarchical menu items with a touch pad is my pet peeve. On any platform.

      It reminds me of the tilting marble maze game, or the old "Operation" game.

      Click on the "File" menu. Slide to "Open Recent ->", then the recent list pops up next to the file menu item. Now I have to slide the mouse pointer to the right, making sure that I do not stray above or below the line, otherwise the submenu disappears! Some applications have multiple levels of submenus! Why can't I just click on the menu item and have the submenu 'stick'?

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    6. Re:The Right Mouse Button by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      There used to be "sticky" controls in Windows that would jump to the next clickable onscreen "button". Or am I imagining things again?

    7. Re:The Right Mouse Button by BroadwayBlue · · Score: 1

      If the mouse is one of the most inefficient input devices, I'm not sure how low to place touch pads. Learning to use the keyboard for navigation can save a lot of aggravation.

    8. Re:The Right Mouse Button by statusbar · · Score: 1

      Some platforms by default do not allow keyboard navigation of menus....

      The 'feature' of hierarchical menu controlled by a mouse pointer is not a feature... It is an admission of poor GUI design.

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    9. Re:The Right Mouse Button by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1

      Navigating hierarchical menu items with a touch pad is my pet peeve. On any platform.

      Cursor keys are your friend.

  25. Photo by Viking+Coder · · Score: 4, Funny

    My cell phone has a Camera button on the outside edge. Every now and then, I hear the fake shutter sound that lets me know my cell phone just took a picture of the inside of my pocket.

    I'm surprised no one else has mention the worst feature ever: DRM.

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    1. Re:Photo by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Every now and then, I hear the fake shutter sound that lets me know my cell phone just took a picture of the inside of my pocket.

      Hey, with what's considered modern art these days, you could probably set up an exhibit of these.

      It'd have a very strong theme.

    2. Re:Photo by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 1

      Oh man, I was looking for someone to mention the camera button on the outside. Mine got so bad (due to having a pen, cell phone, and keys in the same pocket and being a fidgeter while sitting) that I had to regurally delete 15 pictures of my pocket a day. Missing a day meant twice as long deleting the next day. And that phone was slow to delete pictures to, I got to the point where I could flip open the phone, enter the gallery and delete the first 15 pictures without even looking. I made sure to protect the pictures I actually meant to take so I didn't delete them accidentally but it was just sad, I think after 2 years with that phone I had taken 21 picture on purpose and easily that many 10, 20, 30, 40, 50x over on accident. My friends got used to hearing the sound and knowing exactly what it means...

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    3. Re:Photo by bossesjoe · · Score: 1

      Wow, if you guys are talking about the Samsung A670 then we are all in the same boat. You here the "click", and you know that you're doomed to spending ten minutes trying and waiting to delete the half dozen photos.

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    4. Re:Photo by Oxen · · Score: 1

      I hate my samsung A670 for exactly this same reason. Why can't we disable the button, or at least the shutter sound? I assume that the sound is there so people can take pictures without anyone knowing, but it is soooooo annoying! I really hate this phone.

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    5. Re:Photo by gillbates · · Score: 1

      You've got an audiovox too?!

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    6. Re:Photo by NoMaster · · Score: 1

      I think it was a Siemens I had with the directional joystick/pressbutton - even with the keypad locked the joystick button still worked. The default (and unchangeable, IIRC) function sequence of the button was "press for menu - press to select camera mode - press to take picture".

      Once you filled the phone up with pictures of the inside of your belt case or pocket, the UI became unresponsive. It would quite literally take 5 minutes - longer if you got the sequence wrong; it was quite unintuitive and confusingly labelled - to navigate far enough down into the menus to start deleting photos. Then, about 1/2 the time it would lock up / reboot / shut down instead of deleting anything...

      Mobile phone UIs are the worst. I mean, I've seen good UIs elsewhere - a 3 button 2 character display to interrogate certain telecomms gear remains a favourite, especially when you consider the error codes were long strings, not 2 digit numbers - but mobile manufacturers just don't get it. Even Nokia, who once had a deservedly good rep for their UIs, have gone downhill - what idiot decided that the function confirm key should be the same as the function select key? "Delete?" - "Yes", or "Save?" - "Yes", should be 2 different keys - not consecutive options on the same key...

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    7. Re:Photo by steeef · · Score: 1

      YES! I hate this "feature". I thought I could fix it on my Nokia 6101 by using the lock/unlock feature, but holding the photo button down long enough overrides this. Stupid.

    8. Re:Photo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You too??? Friggs. I have the same issue with my Nokia. Not only does the camera get activated if I breathe on it, the only way to turn it off is to open the camera and click the exit. What's the big deal, you'd think? The pain is that I have to this just about *every* time I use the phone.

      The previous phone had a similar annoyance. The most prominent button was some "push to talk" thing. Looking at it hard would also activate it. When you opened the phone the first screen was a question asking if I wanted to activate it. And this happened almost every time too.

      I've searched every menu trying to find a way to turn off the Media Net and disable the camera button. No luck.

    9. Re:Photo by cerberusss · · Score: 3, Funny

      Every now and then, I hear the fake shutter sound that lets me know my cell phone just took a picture of the inside of my pocket.
      So, you're in the cinema with the date of your dreams. You move towards her for a nice wet french kiss and suddenly *flash* the phone cam its flash light illuminates the insides of your jeans, showing a big boner covered with that old Winnie-the-Pooh underpants that you should've thrown away.
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  26. Most modern crap... by Usquebaugh · · Score: 0, Troll

    The phone with the crappy camera, oh yeah I really need that.

    In fact most multi use items are crap.

    Non open connections, if in doubt just use USB.

    Battery life measured in minutes not weeks, totally useless.

    California portable fuel cans, total crap.

    American car designers, another ugly car with no style and they try and sell you it based on an engine with push rod tech. Give me a nice well engineered Japanese or German car thanks.

    McMansions with 6 bathrooms and no space for a yard. No class at all.

    In fact most anything with an American designer sucks. Or is it anything that needs a designer sucks.

    Keyboards with ever more useless keys. Same for mice.

    Nuclear reactors that aren't pebble based.

    one size fits all

    etc etc

    1. Re:Most modern crap... by Kroc · · Score: 1

      I beg to differ. I recently got a new phone with 2.0mp camera, whilst still not the highest quality on the market, it has a flash/light, night mode, burst mode and a macro mode which I used to capture this. Not bad for a phone at all.

  27. In Windows Vista by phalse+phace · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cancel or Allow? feature.

    1. Re:In Windows Vista by OzRoy · · Score: 1

      I can't remember how I got it, but my favorite is

      "Do you want to copy or move these files?
      Yes, No"

    2. Re:In Windows Vista by PhireN · · Score: 1

      What I hate more, is when you are copying small files in vista, it won't 'finish' copying until after it finished estimated the remaining time, even if the files finished coping 10 or 20 seconds ago. And still the estimated times are not accurate, despite taking 10 times longer to calculate than XP.

  28. Grab "ring and pull" ring mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The sales person made it sound like a great feature."

    Well at least it's better than the previous version. "Pull ring and explode" (the phone, not you).

  29. Keyboard Error: by Kroc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Press F1 to Resume...

    1. Re:Keyboard Error: by srmalloy · · Score: 1

      At least it's less idiotic than the old "Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue." boot error when the computer didn't correctly identify the keyboard that was plugged into it.

    2. Re:Keyboard Error: by tom12519 · · Score: 1

      That's hardly an idiotic error message, for it ensures that your keyboard is functioning correctly in order to pass that stage, in which case you don't boot up and then wonder about the keyboard.
      It is, in a sense, "nipping it in the bud."

    3. Re:Keyboard Error: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well nine times out of ten you have to reboot the system to detect the keyboard, so it's not accurate...
      Some BIOSes don't allow you to disable this feature...
      We've got machines at work which have no mouse, no monitor, but have a keyboard shoved behind/ontop/somewhere, just because the damn things won't boot without it there.

    4. Re:Keyboard Error: by jjeffries · · Score: 1

      If it's a Compaq, there is a program called NOF1 that will flip some bits in the CMOS so your computer will start up even w/o a keyboard, at least until your CMOS battery dies. It's from the 386 days but I have used it on machines as new as PIIIs (don't have any newer Compaqs to try it on.)

      As usual you will need an icky DOS boot disk or something like it.

      ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp0501-1000/SP066 7.ZIP

    5. Re:Keyboard Error: by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 1

      Well nine times out of ten you have to reboot the system to detect the keyboard, so it's not accurate...

      That's the point of "Press F1 to continue". Since the computer can't passively determine if the keyboard has been reconnected, it asks for an active test that will definitely confirm it.

    6. Re:Keyboard Error: by Clovert+Agent · · Score: 1

      Why is that bad design? "Something is broken. Please provide evidence that it is fixed." Seems like a logical solution to the problem to me.

      Unless you're working on the assumption that a PC should be able to start up sans keyboard, which in the modern age of PC servers is not unreasonable, but in the early days of PCs? I don't think so.

  30. You know Microsoft Bob? by blueZ3 · · Score: 0

    He's a friend of mine!

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  31. Voicemail by rantingkitten · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In my day (I'm in my late 20s) we had answering machines, and you know what? They were good enough. If I left the house and came home a few hours later, I could see if there was a message, and I knew it was left sometime within the past few hours. Barring a few really specific and improbable scenarios, I don't need to know the exact damn time it was left, nor do I need the other BS like mailboxes, saved messages folders, varying greetings, and all the other claptrap.

    Today? If you're the caller, you have to listen to the person's personal greeting, then suffer through another 20 seconds of "At the tone, please record your message. When finished, hang up, or press the star key for more options. To page this person, press nine. To listen to your personal horoscope..." Just shut the hell up and let me leave the message so I can get on with it, please?

    If you're receiving voicemail it's even worse. "You have...two...new messages and one...saved message. To listen to...new messages...press one. To listen--" One. "First...message...received...at...ten...fifty eight...AM." SHUT UP. JUST PLAY THE GORRAM MESSAGE WITHOUT THE PREAMBLE. Christ. Why the hell do I need to know the exact freaking minute someone called?

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    1. Re:Voicemail by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 1

      You think that's bad, how about when the person who leaves the message then starts off by saying the date and time they're calling (so you have to hear it twice before they tell you why they called). My grandma does this.

      Still, date and time is useful when you go on a trip for a week or something. But of course now we have cellphones so people can reach us anyway...

    2. Re:Voicemail by Verteiron · · Score: 1

      On many corporate VM systems, you can skip the "X is not here. To leave a message, wait for the tone. Press 0 for the operator. Press *473 to use our automated directory, which not only won't work, but is pointless since you already direct-dialed the extension of the person you're trying to reach." message by hitting *.

      Unless, of course, it's a system that disconnects you when you hit *.

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    3. Re:Voicemail by crymeph0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't know what to do about listening to your voicemails, but I know when leaving a message on most cell phone voicemails, you can just press 1 while the computer is droning on about 'leave a message at the tone or press 2 to enter a recursive menu with no hope of escape', even if it doesn't explicitly say you can press 1 to leave a message, and it will take you right to leaving a message.

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    4. Re:Voicemail by ChibiOne · · Score: 1

      Believe ir or not, George isn't at home. Please leave a message at the beep. I'm not at home, or I'd pick up the phone... Where could I be? Believe it or not, I'm not home!

    5. Re:Voicemail by Von+Helmet · · Score: 1

      Oh man... you wanna talk about voicemail...

      At the place I work, the voicemail is so nonsensical. You dial the number and it tells you all the stuff about how many messages you've got, and it gives you the options for what you want to do. Except - and heaven only knows why - the numbers it gives you are out of order. So, if you've just listened to a message and it's asking you what you want to do with it, then the voice is there going "Press 4 to keep the message, 1 to delete the message, 5 to return the call, 9 to transfer the message to another user, etc etc" and you're sat there thinking "Well, I wanted the 3rd thing she said, but what the heck was the number?"

      Honestly, who thought that was a good idea?

    6. Re:Voicemail by Teh+MegaHurtz · · Score: 1

      You think that's so bad eh? Well recently my cell provider changed the "new message" speech to: "one...new message...received...today at...10...42...am...from...6...0...4...5...5...5.. 2...4...2...4...first...new message". Yeah.

    7. Re:Voicemail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Verizon's voicemail doesn't record the time and date. So if the caller doesn't state this info I don't know when they called.

    8. Re:Voicemail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mine does. Press 5 on your keypad, or you can configure it to tell you every time.

    9. Re:Voicemail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha. Mine says things like "You can delete this message, save it, or forward it to someone else. To delete, push 'delete' or six. To save, press 'save' or four. To forward this message to someone else, press ..." and it just goes on and on. I guess it does that to get around the problem posed by your system, but I would prefer in-order button listings.

      Besides, what's up with the "or"? How many phones can you think of that have a delete or a save key?

    10. Re:Voicemail by compro01 · · Score: 1

      YES! i hate that! and my voicemail was just changed to that dain-bramaged system.

      previously, if you wanted time and the number they called from and etc., you just hit 5 either during or after the message. now it spiels it out before the message.

      the woman's voice on it also sounds like she had a few shots of 190 proof before she got to the mic.

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    11. Re:Voicemail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My outgoing message is actually something along the lines of "Sorry, I'm not here. Now here's a nice lady to help you use this cooooomplicated voicemail system."

      But the bit that really burns my shit is when I have old saved messages. The system apparently only saves messages for 21 days or so. After that time, the next time you check your voicemail, before you get to any new messages, you have to sit through the old ones. Now normally, she just whips out messages. "First new message:" boom, into the important bit. But when you make her go over the expired ones, oh she is in no hurry then. "The following message will be deleted. Your message from: Two. Zero. Six. Five. Five. Five. Zero. One. Zero. Zero. On: Friday. September. Twenty-first. Two. Thousand. Seven."

      The one good thing was I had a friend whose number had five twos in a row. Hearing the robot voice insistently shouting twos at me was always funny.

    12. Re:Voicemail by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 5, Funny

      I had a friend who was remarkably good at mimicking the voice on my machine. She called and left a message that repeated the menu commands, and I was sitting there trying to figure out what was wrong with the damn thing.

    13. Re:Voicemail by Damvan · · Score: 1

      My pet peeve with voicemail is why the hell can't they all agree on the same menu buttons? I regularly use 3 voice mail systems, home, cellphone, and office. And each one is entirely different. For example, delete message. One system uses "3", another uses "7" while the third uses "*3". Saving a message, one is "2", another is "8" and the third is "77".

      Come on. How hard is it to standardize?

    14. Re:Voicemail by Raideen · · Score: 1

      Checking voicemail on my cell phone (Verizon) does exactly what you're talking about. The unnecessary pauses between words and the fact that you can't interrupt some messages (like pressing 1 to just get to the damned message) are the worst. It takes about 55 seconds to start listening to the first message and the extra time counts against your minutes.

    15. Re:Voicemail by hemp · · Score: 1

      You can always just hit the # key - it skips the message.

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    16. Re:Voicemail by loraksus · · Score: 1

      Telus, in Canada, had the same goddamn announcements, but you couldn't bypass them (or any messages) on their voicemail. Every message had the "press 7 to delete, press 9 to save" thing following it.
      Incredibly annoying

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    17. Re:Voicemail by Kalriath · · Score: 1

      Haha, that's not quite as evil as mine...

      "You have ... two ... new messages and ... one ... saved message. Message received ... Thursday ... September ... Tenth ... Two Thousand ... and ... Six ... has passed it's expiry date. To listen to the message again, press 1. To save, press 2. To delete, press 3. To call back the caller, press 0.

      (3)

      Message Deleted.

      To listen to your messages, press 1. For call forwarding options, press 3. To change your personal greeting or PIN number, or to configure optional PIN entry, press 4."

      And of course when you hit 1 for listening to messages:

      "First ... new message. Message received ... today ... at ... ten ... thirty ... AM ... from ... "insert random company name here" ... (message goes here)"

      All for the low price of 20 cents. Not 20 cents per minute, retrieving voicemail is 20 cents TOTAL.

      Now leaving a message... personal greeting, then beep. Otherwise (if no personal greeting)... "You have reached the voice mailbox of TWO ... SEVEN ... FIVE ... FIVE ... FIVE ... FIVE ... FIVE ... FIVE ... FIVE. Please leave a message after the tone"

      Except at work, where it's:

      "This user is not subscribed to this service (hangs up)"

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    18. Re:Voicemail by EvanED · · Score: 1

      "I used to look forward to the time when my computer was as easy to use as my phone. Now it's come true - I no longer know how to use my phone."
      -- perhaps Donald Norman The Design of Everyday Things (which should be required reading for anyone doing product design and is just flat out interesting even if you're not)

      (This quote was really hard to search for, and I only found it without attribution. If anyone can provide attribution or a for-sure correct quote, that'd be wonderful.)

    19. Re:Voicemail by nachoboy · · Score: 1

      If you're receiving voicemail it's even worse.

      If you hate cellphone voicemail systems, might I recommend Callwave. They have a free service that REPLACES your cell carrier's voicemail service. This nets you the following benefits:

        - Voicemail or missed call notifications can be delivered to you via text message to your phone, email, or are available on the Callwave website
        - Voicemail can be retrieved via email (link or attachment, at your option), accessing the website directly, or by dialing the service directly
        - Missed calls and voicemails will identify the caller by name if available (my cell service only transmits the caller ID number to my phone, so this is quite useful)
        - They even have a Vista gadget that can show you your last few calls/messages right on your desktop. Very handy.

      Downsides I've discovered so far:

        - If you have a voicemail notification icon on your phone, it won't work anymore. This is tied to your carrier's voicemail system.
        - Recording quality isn't that great. It's acceptable for voice messages though.
        - They don't have a transcription service that will email you the text of your voicemail. Now that would be cool.

      I don't know why more people don't know about this service. I've been using it for several months and am very pleased. I love the fact that I no longer have to waste minutes of my life every week navigating voicemail menu systems, and I'm no longer subject to my carrier's voicemail retention policy. This is the way voicemail was meant to be.

    20. Re:Voicemail by Yer+Mom · · Score: 1

      Tell me, do they charge a per-minute rate to listen to your voicemail, by any chance?

      --
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    21. Re:Voicemail by diodeus · · Score: 1

      Messages that are about to expire in your voicemail.

      "The following message will be deleted from your mailbox. From ###-###-###, left on Saturday, September 21 at 11am......"

      Who cares which number or when the message was left. Until I can hear it I don't know whether I want to keep it or not.

      You can't skip the stupid system message in order to hear the recording. When your voicemail piles up with old messages it is a major chore to clear them out.

    22. Re:Voicemail by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1

      JUST PLAY THE GORRAM MESSAGE WITHOUT THE PREAMBLE. Christ. Why the hell do I need to know the exact freaking minute someone called?

      Because it's shiny! :-)

    23. Re:Voicemail by Analog+Penguin · · Score: 1

      I can't fucking STAND that feature!! And for some asinine reason, you can't skip any part of the "Your message from" spiel when it precedes expired messages! Normally you can hit 1 during all that crap, but it's like they don't want you saving messages on their system...assholes.

    24. Re:Voicemail by Teh+MegaHurtz · · Score: 1

      Of course they do, what other motivation could they possibly have to waste as much of my time as possible?

    25. Re:Voicemail by robkeeney · · Score: 1

      So very true! I have a answering machine at home, and I will NEVER use phone company voice mail. When I walk in the door, I see the blinking light on the phone and know I have a message. The big problem with voice mail is that people don't remember to check it! Also, if they're on the phone, I don't want to be directed to voice mail, I want a busy signal. With a busy signal, it's you know they're home, and you can poll until they're off the phone. Voice mail on my phone at work is OK, because it's more like an answering machine. I have a blinking light that tells me there's a message.

    26. Re:Voicemail by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

      I knew a guy who recorded the *beep* and then played it back as his greeting. So you would be halfway through your message when you hear another beep and have to start all over.

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    27. Re:Voicemail by plover · · Score: 1
      "For a list of all the ways technology has failed to improve the quality of life, please press three."

      -- Alice Kahn

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      John
    28. Re:Voicemail by Chuq · · Score: 1
      If you're receiving voicemail it's even worse. "You have...two...new messages and one...saved message. To listen to...new messages...press one. To listen--" One. "First...message...received...at...ten...fifty eight...AM." SHUT UP. JUST PLAY THE GORRAM MESSAGE WITHOUT THE PREAMBLE.

      And on Telstra provided voicemail (ie. not answering machines) I have the funny feeling that this preamble is JUST enough to get most messages over the thirty-second mark.. and Telstra charges in thirty second blocks...

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      - Chuq
  32. Motorola Phone by DaleGlass · · Score: 1

    Not sure which model, it doesn't even say on the case. I think it's somewhere under the battery.

    Stupid feature #1: Lock sequence is middle button under the screen, *. The chance of it unlocking randomly in my pocket turns out to be pretty high, possibly due to the shape and positioning of the buttons, as well as the very light pressure required to trigger them.

    Stupid feature #2: Under the screen there are two buttons. Left is configurable and usually displays the latest message, right is FIXED on WAP.

    Stupid features #1 and #2 combined result in that sometimes the phone gets unlocked in my pocket, then with 75% probability, connects to WAP.

    Stupid feature #3: Even though I don't use it, and don't plan to, not only the WAP button can't be changed to something else, WAP can't be easily disabled either. I finally managed to break it by specifying incorrect settings so that it won't connect.

    I swear it must be intentional to get some extra cash from accidental connections. The only time I tried WAP 5 euro vanished in a few minutes, and all I managed to get before I ran out of cash was a crappy background picture.

    1. Re:Motorola Phone by HeronBlademaster · · Score: 1

      Someone mentioned the phones with the camera button on the side... me too.

      My Samsung c417 has the same kind of thing... but it's worse.

      The right "menu" button is set (and unchangeable) to "IM" (I don't use AIM so this is worthless to me, and if I did I'd use it on the computer, not on my phone).

      The center button (between the four directional keys) opens the browser, also not changeable. Just connecting tends to cost a few cents. The first few months I had the phone I was paying 25 cents or so each month for accidental browser connections - each less than a few seconds. Lots of things can be locked - Address book, recent calls, texts, photos, Audio, etc, but wouldn't it be useful to be able to lock things that actually cost money?

      Related to that, most of the menus have the first option "Buy/Shop for x" whether it's games or ringtones or whatever. This cannot be disabled or locked. This contributed to those 25 cents I used to pay every month.

      Bluetooth. I must say I was misled. I asked the salesperson if the phone had bluetooth - I wanted to be able to put my own ringtones on the phone, and copy photos off it, or whatever - and I was told it does. It does... but only for headsets. Computers can't even see the phone at all. I don't want to spend $70 for a bluetooth headset, so that once-desired feature is permanently turned off.

      They also told me it was similar to the RAZR. I assumed too much based on that. The only similarity is the slim profile. Everything else isn't as good - much lower resolution, less space for photos and/or ringtones, and lower battery life (if I recall correctly).

      I guess the only positive note is that I got it for free (with the obligatory two-year contract) the day before it was supposed to be publicly released. The commercials for it that aired on TV usually priced it at $30 with contract...

      Moral of the story: read the specs yourself before buying.

    2. Re:Motorola Phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Since I'm posting as an AC, I doubt this will get seen, but what the heck:

      This is not the fault of Motorola, it is the fault of your wireless company. Motorola allows the phone company to add any features to the phone that they want, and allows them to "lock" several features so they cannot be changed/deleted/etc. There is no way to get around this on the phone itself, however if you connect it to your computer there are several utilities that can fix the problem. Check out http://www.motomodders.net/ or http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/Motorola for details on the fun stuff you can do with a computer link.

    3. Re:Motorola Phone by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      The center button (between the four directional keys) opens the browser, also not changeable. Just connecting tends to cost a few cents. The first few months I had the phone I was paying 25 cents or so each month for accidental browser connections - each less than a few seconds. Lots of things can be locked - Address book, recent calls, texts, photos, Audio, etc, but wouldn't it be useful to be able to lock things that actually cost money?

      When I got my first cellphone bill (which included a random extra dollar or so worth of accidentally hitting the browser button), I called up Cingular and demanded both that the charge be refunded, and that they disable my ability to access the Internet, IM, or send text messages entirely. I haven't had an extraneous charge since (to the best of my knowledge).

      Bluetooth. I must say I was misled. I asked the salesperson if the phone had bluetooth - I wanted to be able to put my own ringtones on the phone, and copy photos off it, or whatever - and I was told it does. It does... but only for headsets.

      Do you have Verizon? Verizon disables all the useful functions of Bluetooth in the firmware of the phone. If you hack it, you can probably fix the problem. Of course, in the future the best solution is to use a service provider other than Verizon (although none of the others are much better).

      --

      "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

    4. Re:Motorola Phone by Tim+Browse · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is not the fault of Motorola, it is the fault of your wireless company. Motorola allows the phone company to add any features to the phone that they want, and allows them to "lock" several features so they cannot be changed/deleted/etc.

      So, in other words, it is the fault of Motorola?

    5. Re:Motorola Phone by HeronBlademaster · · Score: 1

      I went with Cingular because Verizon's service plans didn't look as appealing and according to the coverage maps Cingular had better coverage in the areas I frequent. I'll look in to having them disable my ability to IM/use the internet... but that still leaves me with a useless right menu button when I'm on the main screen :/

      I'd like to hack it to un-break Bluetooth, but I'm completely unfamiliar with how I'd go about it.

    6. Re:Motorola Phone by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      I'd like to hack it to un-break Bluetooth, but I'm completely unfamiliar with how I'd go about it.

      I only know about resources for RAZRs (since that's the kind of phone I have), but this might be a good starting point. Also, Google is your friend.

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      "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

  33. Windows security upgrade by coyote-san · · Score: 1

    (or at least I think it's them.) I work late on my home system, planning to come back to the task first thing the next morning. Only it's gone because Windows has received a Very Important Update and rather than wait for me to say 'reboot', it apparently decided that it's okay to proceed on its own.

    It's not like anyone ever walks away from their system without saving everything first.

    (Okay, maybe people don't in the Windows world. But I've used Linux exclusively for many years and have only had the WinXP system for a few months. Yet this has already happened at least three times.)

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    For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. -- H L Mencken
    1. Re:Windows security upgrade by vadim_t · · Score: 1

      Tell me about it.

      I especially love it how it pops up while you're working on something, can't be killed permanently, and gets focus.

      So I'm doing something on my box, the darn thing pops up right when I'm about to press enter or click in the place where the reboot button appears, and the box reboots.

      It's annoying enough with a personal computer, with a server it could be outright nasty.

    2. Re:Windows security upgrade by Dude+McDude · · Score: 0, Informative

      You can change that behaviour using the 'Automatic updates' applet in Control Panel.

    3. Re:Windows security upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who ever uses Windows as a server?

    4. Re:Windows security upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I edited my registry and haven't looked back since! It's bliss not worrying about the dreaded reboot.

      http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/11/vuln_aacgja hfig_ib/

    5. Re:Windows security upgrade by Doctor+Memory · · Score: 1

      the darn thing pops up right when I'm about to press enter or click That's why I finally gave up on "warping" (automatically setting the mouse pointer over the default button whenever a dialog box pops up). Trying to get some work done, and the "Windows has just installed a Very Important Update" dialog pops up just after I got a "Save changes?" dialog. So not only does the machine reboot, but it sends SIGHUP (or whatever the Windows equivalent is) to all the open apps. Which of course my app interprets as "cancel save and then exit". So now not only and I stuck waiting for my machine to boot, but I've lost my work.

      Now, not only do I not use pointer warping, but I have automatic updates disabled too. If my company wasn't so firmly in Microsoft's harem, I'd switch to something else...
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      Just junk food for thought...
    6. Re:Windows security upgrade by LunaticTippy · · Score: 1

      You can disable or customize auto-install, auto-reboot, and the notification. Some of it through the GUI, some of it through the registry. Since you're experienced with linux, you should be able to customize windows enough to make it livable.

      On the windows boxes I use, I have auto-download but it asks to install or reboot. It will notify me once a day if it needs attention. That's not annoying at all.

      I'll agree that the default settings are retarded.

      --
      Man, you really need that seminar!
    7. Re:Windows security upgrade by drsmithy · · Score: 1

      So I'm doing something on my box, the darn thing pops up right when I'm about to press enter or click in the place where the reboot button appears, and the box reboots.

      Difficult to believe, since the dialog that prompts to reboot does not have either of the buttons in it selected by default.

    8. Re:Windows security upgrade by drsmithy · · Score: 1

      Trying to get some work done, and the "Windows has just installed a Very Important Update" dialog pops up just after I got a "Save changes?" dialog. So not only does the machine reboot, but it sends SIGHUP (or whatever the Windows equivalent is) to all the open apps. Which of course my app interprets as "cancel save and then exit". So now not only and I stuck waiting for my machine to boot, but I've lost my work.

      The dialog that prompts to reboot has no default button to select.

    9. Re:Windows security upgrade by loraksus · · Score: 1

      My experience was setting 340 hours of tv shows to compress while I went on vacation for 2 weeks.
      Reboot 8 hours into the damn process. Took over a week 24/7 to finish compression.
      Thanks Microsoft!

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    10. Re:Windows security upgrade by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Mmmm... not really, at least not in XP. You can turn OFF automatic updates, but you can't disable that dialog from there. The same dialog *I think* appears if you do manual updates, though maybe not through IE. (If you have auto updates set to just inform you or download and inform it definitely still brings it up.)

      This is the link you really want to turn off the dialog if you still want auto updates on.

    11. Re:Windows security upgrade by Doctor+Memory · · Score: 1

      Huh. Then it must have popped up with the "Reboot and screw me over" button in the same position as the "Save the document I've been working on all morning" button, since that dialog had just popped up and my pointer had warped to it.

      I'd still be much happier with a taskbar bubble (which, now that I mention it, I think I've seen).

      --
      Just junk food for thought...
  34. Clock 2.8.1 in Gnome by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 1

    The damn calendar skips a month when you hit the next month arrow. Come on, this is the default clock/calendar. I just want to know what day June 14th is. Being May, I hit the next month arrow and it quickly displays June, then goes to July. I have to resort to a paper calendar sitting next my desk. I know I could probably update it, but this is pretty stupid bug to let slip through.

  35. Commodore Serial Disk Drives by grondak · · Score: 1

    1541 anyone?

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    1. Re:Commodore Serial Disk Drives by jd · · Score: 1
      I beg to correct your accidental typo. That should be "Commodore Cereal Disk Drives" (it took several months to get anything useful from them and the people designing them were clearly involved in some grass derivative at the time).

      The earlier Commodore IEEE-488 drives were not only larger, but faster and capable of carrying out operations without CPU intervention.

      --
      It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
    2. Re:Commodore Serial Disk Drives by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      Besides being slow, what's there to hate? It was the USB of its day.

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      I am not a crackpot.
    3. Re:Commodore Serial Disk Drives by krouic · · Score: 1

      Actually, the 1541 was supposed to be at least 8x faster, but a bug in one of the chips was noticed only after a lot of them had been manufactured. In order not to increase costs, Commodore decided to keep these flawed chips and adapted the drive software to accomodate for the bug. This implied using very conservative timings, hence the slow drives.

    4. Re:Commodore Serial Disk Drives by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1

      what's there to hate?

      The fact that someone produced a turbo loader for the C64 tape drive that loaded data faster than the 1541? :-)

  36. Useless LED's by thejakebrain · · Score: 1

    It's hard to get headshots in Battlefield, when a blue light from my speakers illuminate the room and invade my eyespace. Useless extra lights suck.

    1. Re:Useless LED's by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      a blue light from my speakers illuminate the room and invade my eyespace

      What do you think electrical tape is for?

    2. Re:Useless LED's by thejakebrain · · Score: 1

      That's exactly what I use, I am just saying that any company that makes speakers should not fund the tape industry.

  37. PTT button on SonyEricsson Z525a by grommit · · Score: 1

    The PTT button on the SonyEricsson Z525a is raised almost a 1/4 of an inch off of the side of the phone and is very sensitive. You brush your hand against it and your screen displays "PTT feature is disabled! blah blah blah" There's no way to disable it other than tearing the button off the side.

    Horribly annoying.

    1. Re:PTT button on SonyEricsson Z525a by ISurfTooMuch · · Score: 1

      I had the Z520a, and it had the exact same button, except on that model it took a picture with the camera. I don't know how many shots I had of the inside of my pocket, but it was plenty.

  38. The DVD (and cd) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what kind of an idiot designs an optical disk with exposed data surfaces, they should be like the mini-disk in a protective jacket at all times

  39. Aftermarket car electronics by TheNicestGuy · · Score: 1

    I've got three things that annoy me every time I get in my car. First is the Jensen stereo I installed because it had a Bluetooth receiver. It's got a big, round, silver knob on the left side. It controls the volume. Great! Turn a knob instead of pushing a button! I love that! But... It doesn't turn. It's actually a four-way rocker: up-down for volume and left-right for station or track select. But it gets worse. The thing is cheap and flimsy, so it's infuriatingly easy to click the wrong direction and get a different song just when you had one you wanted to turn up. It also has an alarming tendency to stick when you click up, sending your volume skyrocketing to max after a second or two delay.

    Speaking of alarming, the previous owners had an alarm installed, and it's got a bug or two. It's one of those nice ones that cuts power to the ignition until the alarm is disarmed. Fine, but unfortunately it also cuts power to the ignition if the alarm is never armed in the first place, every time the car is turned off! If I just get out to pump some gas, I still have to "disarm" the alarm to start the car.

    Finally, I'm not sure who to blame for this one. It's either Jensen or palmOne. Every time I turn the car on, the Bluetooth receiver in the stereo pairs with my Treo. It almost always does this silently and without a problem, and that's great. What's not great is that the process of pairing somehow activates the Treo's screen and disables the keyguard. I tend to wear the thing on my hip, but I've had to get in the constant habit of taking it off every time I get in the car because it sits right where the seatbelt is almost guaranteed to push some button eventually, usually the redial.

    1. Re:Aftermarket car electronics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got three things that annoy me every time I get in my car. First is the Jensen stereo I installed because it had a Bluetooth receiver.

      Well there's your p0rblem. You could try buying something that isn't a total POS.

    2. Re:Aftermarket car electronics by Nighttime · · Score: 1

      Speaking of alarming, the previous owners had an alarm installed, and it's got a bug or two. It's one of those nice ones that cuts power to the ignition until the alarm is disarmed. Fine, but unfortunately it also cuts power to the ignition if the alarm is never armed in the first place, every time the car is turned off! If I just get out to pump some gas, I still have to "disarm" the alarm to start the car.

      This sounds like more of a security design feature. The ignition immobiliser automatically cutting in after a pre-determined time once the engine has been switched off. My last car had that feature. The remote plipper would unlock the doors and disarm both the alarm and the immobiliser. If I didn't get in and turn the ignition within 30 seconds the immobiliser would activate again requiring a second disarm press. My current car is a bit smarter, the immobiliser still activates after 30 seconds but if I turn the ignition it can sense that the plipper is in range and the immobiliser disarms.

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      I've got a fever and the only prescription is more COBOL.
  40. LG VX8300 by scruff323 · · Score: 1

    The VX8300 is one of the most common phones because it is so damn good. It gets service everywhere and has a pretty good battery life. It even has VCast capability for Verizon and can take SD cards and stuff.

    One problem - if you ever load any music onto it, beware if it in your pocket. When the flip is down, there are "easily accessible" VCast control buttons on the front, and if you hold down the play button the music will start playing. I have had the music go off during class like 2 or 3 times before i just took off all the music. It even will turn on when you are in manner mode (which is supposed to turn everything to silent). The only way to disable it is to lock your phone.

    1. Re:LG VX8300 by icebrain · · Score: 1

      In my experience, with the phone on vibrate the music player turns on, but doesn't play out loud unless you mess with the volume buttons too. The best solution I found was to not keep anything else in my pocket.

      My old samsung (SGH-E365?) was worse; the camera button was on the outside and I took about 12 shots of the inside of my pocket every week. And the menus sucked. And the alarm function. And the reception. Hell, the whole thing sucked. I took it up in an airplane and dropped it into a lake from 3000 feet up.

      The suckiest technological "feature" is, IMO, text messaging... at least, when implemented like US phone companies do.
      The advanced programmability features on my saitek X-52 don't quite work as advertised. I've resorted to using it as-is (and it's still a good setup, just not as many features as I'd like).

      --
      The meek may inherit the earth, but the strong shall take the stars.
  41. Hmmm... by Leroy+Brown · · Score: 1

    Cell phones with flip covers -- the keyguard feature worked great for me on non-flip Nokias which were damn near indestructible. Every flip phone I've ever owned eventually met its demise due to wear and tear from the flip feature.

    My Sanyo Katana flip phone that likes to dial the last called number from my pocket on speaker-phone, because even when it's flipped closed, the right combination of button presses on the side of the phone can still manage to dial.

    Cisco IOS -- Maintenance software releases are for replacing old bugs with new bugs, Technology releases are for introducing new features with new bugs.

    Windows Vista -- no explanation required.

  42. Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 5, Interesting


    You know the single molecular layer stuff with infinite strength that is used to encapsulate CDs, or the thicker and even stronger stuff that small electronic devices like CF drives come in. I once broke a pair of scissors trying to cut one of those open. I am surprised some smart lawyer doesn't do a class action lawsuit against the manufacturers of that sort of packaging - there must be lost of people who have injured themselves trying open these packages.

    1. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by Verteiron · · Score: 1

      I've actually cut myself on that second kind of plastic. It's like a paper cut, except I swear I'm allergic to the stuff because the cut swells up something fierce.

      That stuff is -evil-.

      --
      End of lesson. You may press the button.
    2. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by scruff323 · · Score: 1

      agreed, i have never found an effective way to open that shit, and i have cut myself on the sharp edges.

    3. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by hansamurai · · Score: 4, Informative

      http://www.myopenx.com/home.htm

      I've broken scissors too. Never again! Never again!

    4. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

      It's a Turing Test.

      If you can open it without maiming yourself to within an inch of your life, you clearly aren't human.

    5. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by Kaenneth · · Score: 1

      I heard that Boeing was looking into using the material used for Theft Resistant Packaging for aircraft Black Boxes. But the FAA rejected them as being to hard to open.

    6. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by Skater · · Score: 1

      I cut myself on one that contained a copy of Windows XP!

      I almost always use Linux at home but I needed Windows for teleworking (don't ask), so I figured I'd go legit and buy a copy.

      Then I cut myself on it, and I thought, "This doesn't bode well..." Yep, the install went poorly.

    7. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by Cthefuture · · Score: 1

      Ugh, I hate that stuff too. Do they use that to prevent theft?

      Did I mention I hate that stuff?

      I always use a box-cutter. That is if I have one available, OMG teh terrorist!!111!one1!

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      The ratio of people to cake is too big
    8. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by f0dder · · Score: 1

      I've yet to meet a plastic package that has yet defeated a good pair of kitchen shears/scissors.

      Using the right tool for the job is half the battle.

    9. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by AdmiralWeirdbeard · · Score: 1

      man, me too!
      fucking harddrive packaging was being a smarmy little bitch, doing the 'going cloudy-white but not cuting' thing.
      jabbed it with a kitchen knife, and ripped like a piece of paper.
      sliced right thumb knuckle near off.
      bled for hours too.

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    10. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by Asmandeus · · Score: 1

      Yeah actually, that's exactly what it's for: preventing theft. Problem is, then the thieves usually borrow some scissors or a knife off the sales floor (At say, Target or Wal-Mart) or come prepared which then means that the thief is "armed" with some sort of weapon.

      It's also a pain in the ass for a paying customer to deal with (as stated previously elsewhere) much like anything that prevents theft.

    11. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Add to the packaging peeves: toys.

      Christmas morning toy de-packaging. Non-standard, sadistic, clever, devious packaging used to tape, glue, wire, sew, rivet, weld, and concrete-encase the toy into its package, so that it looks pretty on the shelf so grandma will buy it, and so it will take up an entire day of nit-picking concentration by the Mission Impossible team to remove without destroying the toy. I've literally seen toys that took me longer to un-package than it took for the kids to get tired of playing with them.

    12. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by WCLPeter · · Score: 1

      Yes, and let's not forget once you do finally manage to get the thing open there's this magical tape covering all exposed edges of the case inside keeping you from actually opening it.

      You'd think tape would be easy to get off, but someone must have spent a small fortune engineering this stuff, for simply trying to rip it results in a small thin strip that sticks to your fingers, clothes and anything else within a five foot radius of the package.

      Finally, after spending ten minutes wrestling with the stupid DVD case, you pop the thing in and then get stuck watching the stupid company logo, FBI screens (don't copy now, yah-hear) and frelling commercials for movies that have long since left the cinema!!!!! Try as I might, the stupid pop up on the screen keeps telling me that fast-forward, menu, or any other damned button is "Not a valid option at this time."

      So now I'm nursing cuts from the packaging, bits of tape stuck to my bleeding fingers, mashing buttons trying to watch the fracking movie, finally reaching the menu only to discover quality control wasn't quite up to snuff the day my disc was packaged. Somehow they managed to silk screen the Widescreen label on a Fullframe version of the film and then stick it in a clearly labeled Widescreen box.

      And then they have the nerve to wonder why people download this shit! Oh well, at least I get to take out my frustration on the returns guy at Costco. ;-)

      Pete...

    13. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by Detritus · · Score: 1

      Get some EMT shears. They do a good job of cutting through plastic packaging. I bought several off eBay for a very reasonable price.

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    14. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by palndrumm · · Score: 1

      http://www.myopenx.com/home.htm

      Mod parent up - these things are awesome.

    15. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by Miguelito · · Score: 1

      the thicker and even stronger stuff that small electronic devices like CF drives come in. I once broke a pair of scissors trying to cut one of those open. I am surprised some smart lawyer doesn't do a class action lawsuit against the manufacturers of that sort of packaging - there must be lost of people who have injured themselves trying open these packages. Just get one of these.. seriously. My mom actually bought a bunch of them for everyone in the family. Makes opening those damn things a snap now.

      I actually get mad when I can't find the damn thing and have one of those plastic packages to open.
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    16. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      Get a Pacific Handy Cutter S4 these are the cutters we get at work and the blades in mine always lasted for 8 months or longer being used in an abusive commercial environment, 100's of cuts each day, several of them ending in a metal shelf.

      for a home user other than a serious ebay addict a cutter and a $15 pack of 100 blades will last untill you are dead and your kids are old and in a nursing home somewhere.

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    17. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by loraksus · · Score: 1

      Problem solved.

      People sort of look at you funny when opening stuff though...

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    18. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by EvanED · · Score: 1

      At the risk of being sued by Viacom and/or having my hosting plan overrun... Stephen Colbert did an amusing segment on that awful packaging and, yes, the people who have injured themselves. (5.6 MB XviD download; sorry the audio and video are ever so slightly out of sync.)

    19. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by weharc · · Score: 1

      Yeah I know exactly what you mean, these are insane. I've cut myself badly while trying to open something in one of these crazy impenetrable packets. At least it makes whatever is stored inside as safe as a house. Why wouldn't you package your product in such wonderful stuff? As if the customer would ever want to open it...

    20. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yay! What a nice solution to unnecessary packaging--selling you a product that can open the unnecessary packaging.

    21. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by Alchemist253 · · Score: 1

      How about just carrying a good knife? I always have a Gerber folding blade on me and have never encountered a package it won't open in a snap.

    22. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      ...or they come with a printed barcode on the sticker, and buy a 4GB SD card for price of a 256M one, or a 60GB IPod for price of a cheap taiwaneese knock-off.

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    23. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      sound like a case of 'nerd who holds a knife like a spaz'

    24. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i cut my finger on the plastic packaging a DVI cable came it.

    25. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by LogicHoleFlaw · · Score: 1

      Yes, but... you just *know* it comes in that invulnerable plastic packaging when you order it.

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    26. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by AdmiralWeirdbeard · · Score: 1

      sound like a case of 'nerd who holds a knife like a spaz'
      More like 'nerd who holds computer hardware like a spaz.' anyone who holds a 10" piece of sharpened german steel like a spaz will quickly lose digits. never occured to me that a hunk of plastic would slice instead of scrape, given the angles.
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    27. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by sjames · · Score: 1

      If only the toy was half as durable as the package it came in.

  43. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage or Microsoft Update? by DocSavage64109 · · Score: 1

    Try running Microsoft Update on XP behind a linux/dansguardian proxy on a computer with Office 2003 and tell me how snappy it is. (Your CPU usage will go to 100% within a minute of bootup) Interestingly, Windows Update runs fine btw.

  44. cell phones suck by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 1

    Yeah, my cell phone features are awful. When the batteries are running low, it beeps and wastes battery power literally every 5 minutes. On top of that, I keep my cell phone on vibrate, and to silence the call if I don't want to have it ring or vibrate there's a button on the side. The problem is the button is exposed so whenever the phone is in my pocket, the phone never rings or vibrates because the button is pressed in. Perhaps if it took 2 seconds or so of the button being pressed to silence it, I wouldn't miss as many calls, but as it is the smallest press will silence it.

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  45. 1-800-XXX-XXXX by LunaticTippy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I just called that number to complain about the vending machine being out of taco pellets. They were very helpful and understanding. They also have a website

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    1. Re:1-800-XXX-XXXX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You win.

  46. Auto controls by Intron · · Score: 1

    The right side control on the steering column in my Subaru has 5 different functions on it all marked with the same windshield wiper icon: rear wiper, rear wash, front wiper, intermittent rate, and front wash.

    Who decided that pressing the remote unlock should only do the driver door unless I hit it twice? Now I always hit the button 3 or 4 times to make sure the tailgate is unlocked.

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    1. Re:Auto controls by dthree · · Score: 1

      My wife's subara unlocks all the doors if you hold the button (on the first press) for a little longer, around 3/4 second.

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    2. Re:Auto controls by compwizrd · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's a design "feature", so that if someone's standing beside your car on the other side, they can't get into the car when you unlock it.

    3. Re:Auto controls by Intron · · Score: 1

      Mine starts the car honking insanely when I do that. I forgot that one, that's another annoying feature.

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  47. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage or Microsoft Update? by toadlife · · Score: 4, Informative

    You are experiencing a bug with Microsoft Update, not WGA. It's been driving us crazy here at work for months now.

    Thankfully, Microsoft finally released a hotfix for it.

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  48. Computer generated voices by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 1

    "Your door is ajar. Your door is ajar. Your door is ajar." It's not a jar! It's a door! It always was and it always will be.

    And I remember when a local store installed their new laser scanning checkout stations. Those had voice systems that read your purchases for all to hear. "Eggs, ninety nine cents." You can imagine how well that worked out. "Preparation-H, three dollars ninety nine cents. Extra-absorbent tampons, four dollars ninety nine cents." (I have no idea what those items cost either now or back in the 80s.)

    1. Re:Computer generated voices by Lee+Cremeans · · Score: 1

      All the self-checkouts I've used so far (IBM, NCR, Fujitsu) read off what you buy as well, though thankfully they just say the price.

  49. Windows by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    All versions of Windows. Even DOS sucked less than Windows, since at the time we expected less of it.

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  50. Click to focus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean, you don't have to "click" on a piece of paper (window) before you can write on it. You just do.

  51. Mustang AC control, and Windows Update by Froboz23 · · Score: 1

    On my 2006 Mustang, the air conditioning controls are all digital. One of the buttons controls whether the AC air flow should recirculate the interior air, or pull the air from outside the car. The problem is, this button defaults to external air, and it doesn't save the previous value when you remove the key from the ignition. So, every time I start my car and want to use the AC, I always have to toggle the air intake button. I live in Arizona, where car AC is essential, and is used 6 months out of the year. I've probably pushed that damn air intake button over 500 times in the past year. I smell a class-action lawsuit for unnecessary finger strain. =P

    When you're using the AC, whether for heating or cooling, that should imply you want the air temperature inside the car to be different than the air temperature outside the car, so pulling air from outside the car is a dumb default.

    My other gripe involves Windows Update. I have it enabled to patch the multitude of security flaws in XP. It automatically downloads and installs security updates. OK, I can live with that. But then, when it's done installing, it displays a pop-up that says the computer will automatically restart in 5 minutes. If you press cancel, it will wait 10 minutes or so, and display the message again. I was in the middle of working on a major software project when I got this stupid message. I didn't want to waste the 15 minutes required to close out all my 20+ xterm windows, restart the system, reconnect to work, and open all my xterms again. So I spent the next 3 hours clicking the "cancel reboot" button every 10 minutes, until I finally got sick of it, and let the damn thing reboot. Great feature.

    A simple "Don't remind me again" checkbox would have prevented this frustration.

    Another nice side-effect of this feature is that if you step away from your computer for more than 10 minutes and a security update happens to come in while you're gone, you'll come back to a rebooted computer with no explanation.

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    1. Re:Mustang AC control, and Windows Update by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1
      the computer will automatically restart in 5 minutes

      Considering how often you have to reboot Windows anyway, can't it just wait for the inevitable?

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    2. Re:Mustang AC control, and Windows Update by drsmithy · · Score: 1

      . If you press cancel, it will wait 10 minutes or so, and display the message again. I was in the middle of working on a major software project when I got this stupid message.

      You can temporarily disable this by stopping the "Automatic Updates" service.

      However, the point the systme is trying to get across is that you NEED TO REBOOT. Until you do, it's potentially in a state of limbo, with some updates only half-applied, which can cause all sorts of strange problems from conflicting file versions and the like.

      Another nice side-effect of this feature is that if you step away from your computer for more than 10 minutes and a security update happens to come in while you're gone, you'll come back to a rebooted computer with no explanation.

      Only if you tell it to. That is *not* the default configuration.

    3. Re:Mustang AC control, and Windows Update by netsharc · · Score: 1

      The Windows Update nag window, ah who isn't familiar with it. Although, the one I know asks you if you want to restart now, or do you want the dialog box to nag you 15 mins from now?

      Once I just moved it to the extreme side of my desktop so I could ignore it while not making a choice. And then I also used WinRoll to move it to the background from its default always-on-top setting.

      I think you can also kill wupdate.exe or stop the whole auto-update service to make it stop nagging.

      A similar experience: I start Word, it pops up a window saying "Now configuring Adobe Acrobat 7. Cannot find AcroPro.msi, please enter path to AcroPro.msi.". "Cancel!", But no, in their world cancel means "Nag me again!" as it rinsed and repeated.

      "OK OK, here's the CD you idiot!". "Installing... all done, but I have to reboot. Reboot now?"

      All because Acrobat wants to (re-)put 3 fucking icons into Word's toolbar that I don't even need.

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    4. Re:Mustang AC control, and Windows Update by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      Only if you tell it to. That is *not* the default configuration.

      What? No - it reboots your computer without asking.

    5. Re:Mustang AC control, and Windows Update by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      However, the point the systme is trying to get across is that you NEED TO REBOOT. Until you do, it's potentially in a state of limbo, with some updates only half-applied, which can cause all sorts of strange problems from conflicting file versions and the like.

      Boo fucking hoo! I'm the USER, damnit. Whatever I'm doing is more important than applying updates! And if it can break itself just by half-updating, it's got bigger problems anyway.

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    6. Re:Mustang AC control, and Windows Update by drsmithy · · Score: 1

      Boo fucking hoo! I'm the USER, damnit. Whatever I'm doing is more important than applying updates!

      Duh. That's why it ASKS you to reboot.

      And if it can break itself just by half-updating, it's got bigger problems anyway.

      Hardly. Changing files out from underneath running applications can cause weird and wonderful problems on all platforms.

    7. Re:Mustang AC control, and Windows Update by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Duh. That's why it ASKS you to reboot.

      No, it doesn't. Just the other day I opened my laptop screen (waking it from sleep) and it immediately shut down to apply updates, closing everything I was working on in the process. It did not ever ask me. If it weren't for the fact that the computer in question is a Tablet PC (Vista actually has worthwhile improvements in that particular area only), it would have been reformatted right then and there.

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    8. Re:Mustang AC control, and Windows Update by drsmithy · · Score: 1

      What? No - it reboots your computer without asking.

      You are mistaken. A stock Windows XP SP2 install will not reboot your machine after installing updates. Indeed, a default Windows/Automatic Updates configuration won't even *install* the updates automatically, it just downloads them and pops up a nag balloon.

      Either you, your system administrator or possibly even your hardware vendor has changed the default configuration.

    9. Re:Mustang AC control, and Windows Update by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      I blame my BenQ distro!

    10. Re:Mustang AC control, and Windows Update by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't it ask you "shall I install updates that will require reboot?" instead of entering the machine into unstable state without any concern about your current activity, and then presenting you with alternative between aborting your work for reboot or risking wasting your work by crashing or otherwise damaging the system?

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  52. Mac OS X Finder by chord.wav · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why the hell would I want to mix folders and files, all ordered alphabetically??

    Not to mention the hockey puck mouse.

    Oh and hardware locked DVD drives.

    1. Re:Mac OS X Finder by dthree · · Score: 1

      Off the top of my head, so that you can see a zip file and the resulting unzipped folder next to each other. Why should folders be separate when ordering alphabetically?

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    2. Re:Mac OS X Finder by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1
      Actually, here's a few of my favorite Mac OS X things:
      1. Download updates with Mac OS X's Software Update. This is especially true when it's an update that requires a restart. Choose 'Shut Down' from the Finder menu. Software Update will not shut down because it's in the middle of downloading and applying updates that will then require me to restart or shut down! Here's an idea: Since I have to restart or shut down anyway, why not let it finish the update program and THEN shut down? Why do I have to wait for it finish so I can then shut down?
      2. On an Apple notebook, choose Shut Down. Click the "Are you sure?" button. Close the lid. Your computer is now asleep. When you next open up the top, the computer will wake up and finish shutting down. Hello? Does it make sense that I want the computer to go to sleep just before shutting down or does it make more sense that I'd like the computer to shut down with the lid closed?!
      3. Personal peeve: Choose Shut Down. Click the "Are you sure?" button. Then click through every application that says, "Do you want to save your files before quitting?" How about this, Apple? Choose Shut Down. Applications are quit. If they need me to save something, they'll ask. You know, like you've been telling developers to do for the past 20 years? You know, like you used to do in Mac OS 9?

        (Actually, the "official explanation" I got from Apple about this a few years ago at WWDC was that Apple is trying to get away from the whole "Document-based" thing and asking if you want to save. So if you do something and quit the application, the application should save it's state somewhere and then quit. When you restart the application, it should reload it's state so you don't lose anything. Mail is an example of this, where everything is saved when you quit.)
      This is why I chuckle whenever I hear anybody talk about how Apple sweats "the little things."
    3. Re:Mac OS X Finder by Microlith · · Score: 1

      Couple things

      1. Apple needs to add a checkbox here to allow immediate reboots when complete. Small gaffe, still more reliable and faster than windows update (3 trips, 2 reboots last patch lump.)

      2. Sleep has priority over other actions, and is handled by the kernel and not Finder. If you tell it to shutdown, you have to wait for the OS to shut down or the kernel will catch the lid closing and put the thing to sleep, only to wake up to Finder firing off a shutdown command. That said, it's sleep-wake behavior is light years beyond 2K/XP where you couldn't even be sure it'd come back.

      Apple does sweat the small stuff, it's once you get past that you see what Apple still has to refine. And then you go back to Windows and see all the huge stuff Microsoft blithely ignores.

  53. Acrobat by supabeast! · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The entire user interface for Adobe Acrobat (the full version, not the free reader) is a nightmare. I have used thousands of GUI programs and never found anything that comes close to sucking so much. How a company that has produced so many other great interfaces managed to push that turd out confounds me every time I have to use that awful program.

    1. Re:Acrobat by jwlidtnet · · Score: 1

      Absolutely agreed. It's so terrible that I've declared all Acrobat versions post-6 to be pretty much dead to me. It's not that version 5 and before are fantastic or anything, but merely that they have far fewer options and tools to hide in the totally counterintuitive menus and toolbars.

  54. Print button on digital cameras by ChePibe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think anyone else has mentioned this so I will - why on earth put a print button on the camera? While this may make sense for some cameras and some users (cheap point and shooters especially), they're now popping up on more advanced DSLRs like the Canon 30D. Who buys a $1,000 DSLR and prints directly from the camera with no post processing and not even a look at the images? Worst of all, the button can't be remapped - you're stuck with a useless button. Why, why, why?

    1. Re:Print button on digital cameras by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Field work. Sometimes its nice to pop out a few point and clicks on a portable printer without having to go through the laptop. Though you are still right I'd say since few enough of us use this feature that it could probly be put into the menus.

  55. The Vibrate feature on most cell phones by DeathOverlord3 · · Score: 1

    Most cell phones I've ever dealt with (read verizon) have a poorly implemented vibrate feature which is louder than the actual ringer in most cases.

    The point of the vibrate function is to provide inaudible tactile feedback so the phone can discreetly get your attention, and my old Nokia got it right by pulsing the vibrations.

    Most of the models associated with verizon have an unnecessarily loud buzzer audible throughout lecture halls of several hundred people. And it seems like they are proud of it, having incorporated the distinctive buzzing into their television commercials with that chubby redhead kid who was instant messaging at work on the can.

    Also, my old Nokia phone was smart enough to realize that if it was plugged in and charging then it was probabaly not in my pocket so there was no reason for it to vibrate. Not so with my newer LG POS.

    1. Re:The Vibrate feature on most cell phones by X-treme-LLama · · Score: 1

      I had an old motorola with this 'feature'..

      The vibrate was such that I could hear it across the room, in my (soft and padded) coat pocket.. I actually kind of dug it though, since almost no one else could hear it. People thought I was freaking psychic because I would randomly go get my phone out of my coat and answer it.

      I have the alternate complaint. Now-a-days the the vibrate on any of my recent phones is so weak that I can't even feel it in my rear jeans pocket (ahhh slim phones..) unless I'm sitting on it.

      Although I had a samsung with a vibrate so powerful (combined with a lightweight plastic phone) that it vibrated off my desk and answered itself when it popped open upon hitting the ground.. My ex was apparently treated to an interesting audio performance involving me and my new girlfriend. Ahh well.

    2. Re:The Vibrate feature on most cell phones by Seq · · Score: 1

      My phone has a never-quite-right vibrate. It is so weak that on my belt, I easily miss it (and is inaudible as it is muffled by clothing). On the other hand, place it on a table and I can hear it across the house while watching TV. The ringer also is extremely loud in quiet situations (private meeting), or extremely quiet (Trade Shows).

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  56. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage or Microsoft Update? by DocSavage64109 · · Score: 1

    Thank you! I'd given up on this and I doubt if I'd have ever noticed this fix!!

  57. The Blasted Supermarket Self-Check-Out Terminal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hate that fucking thing constantly telling me to "Place Item in the Bag". Over and over again, "Place Item in the Bag." I started screaming back at it: "It's in the bag!"..."It's in the bag!". Recently I've even seen other people at my supermarket talking back to the machine as well.

    1. Re:The Blasted Supermarket Self-Check-Out Terminal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, man, I haven't actually laughed aloud at something I've read on the internet in many moons. Good stuff.

  58. "Operation currently prohibited by disc." by Torodung · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Says it all.

    But if you're a DVD exec, I want the buttons on my DVD player ('fast forward,' 'top menu') to work as they *should* without playing "Mother-may-I?" with the embedded OS. The menu should NEVER be restricted. That doesn't even make sense! What harm could my having instant access to your product's menu do to your bottom line?

    Also, on my DVD player I can't even turn the darned thing off reliably. Is it too much to ask that a power switch be an actual -power switch- and not a "send power down signal to the OS" switch? It's not like there's a hard drive in these things. There's no need for the absurd length of time it takes for most DVD players to go from a power off *command* to a power off *state*.

    Same goes for the tray eject button. Kill the motor and eject the disc already! I don't need "pretty" or "graceful," I need my disc back in less than five seconds.

    Worst "feature"... Ever.

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    1. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by inKubus · · Score: 1

      My '94 Dodge Grand Caravan had a "Check Gages" light. WTF is a Gages?

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    2. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by ciggieposeur · · Score: 1

      One nice thing about having only computers and not set-top DVD boxes at my house: they all run Linux, and they all ignore DVD restrictions.

    3. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. Never understood DVD players at all.
      Particularly the "your disk has a scratch on it and I can't read this little bit, therefore I'm going
      to completely disable all functionality of the remote control and the DVD unit - unfortunately, this means that
      you're going to have to get up to physically turn me off and on again in order to reload the disk."

      WTF?? These things HAVE operating systems! How TF can a scratch completely disable the entire unit ?

    4. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by jambarama · · Score: 1

      Or how about VCRs and DVD players that don't actually ever turn off. The power button just dims the lights on the front.

      Couple that with VCR & DVD decks that keep blinking until you set the time, and a house that loses power ~5 times per year, and you can't ever watch a freaking movie without some obnoxious light blinking.

    5. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by Sax+Maniac · · Score: 1

      I have to agree with you, but I think most stereo equipment only has a standby mode (instead of true power-off) so you can turn it on via remote. Think about it for a bit. If it actually had a power switch, the legions of technophobes would sit there at the remote, pressing the buttons, wondering why it doesn't work...

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    6. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by Geekbot · · Score: 1

      Probably so that you couldn't scratch a DRM area off the disk, like a region code or something. Wasn't there some hack a few years back with sharpies for something or other?

    7. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by i-thinkTwentyTwo · · Score: 1

      Totally agree. One of the worst instances of this showing up is on a lot of TV shows on DVD. If you don't press menu by the end of the credits for the episode it will go into the copyright screens and it then makes you go through the same message in every language they know about. I might be able to understand why they want to force a copyright screen on you, but when 90% of the screens are in a language you don't understand, that's just stupid.

    8. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by Trogre · · Score: 1

      I vote for this one too. I'm never going to look at the Paramount logo or the Madagascar trailer again without cringing.

      Any system that takes more than 5 seconds to eject OR load and play the main feature is sorely lacking. I thought we'd gotten past all this waiting crap after vhs tapes disappeared. You know, the ones where you were never quite sure if the last watcher had rewound it for you. At least then you knew the machine was doing something it *needed* to do.

      UOPs must die.

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    9. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      You mean "WTF are gages?" And the answer is that they're the little dially-lookin' doodads on your dashboard, (probably) right next to the light.

      Also, the person who designed that button either can't spell, doesn't realize that spelling is "obsolete" according to Wiktionary, or made it too small to include a "u."

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    10. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by Kj0n · · Score: 1

      Same goes for the tray eject button. Kill the motor and eject the disc already! I don't need "pretty" or "graceful," I need my disc back in less than five seconds.

      You could rewrite the firmware to do this. Or you could let it open the tray without stopping the rotation of the disk. That would make a nice frisbee launcher.

    11. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by revengebomber · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You could rewrite the firmware to do this. Or you could let it open the tray without stopping the rotation of the disk. That would make a nice frisbee launcher. That's exactly the reasoning behind spinning the disc down completely before ejecting it. Take one of those 1999-esque 52x CD drives - you know, the blisteringly loud, vibrational hazards? - and copy a disc to the hard drive. While it's copying, take a paper clip and shove on the manual eject. Proceed to watch helicopter effect.

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    12. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by zlogic · · Score: 1

      My cheap DVD player (cost me $23) is region-free and allows me to skip un-skippable parts. And it has two power switches, one turns on the standby mode and the other completely cuts off power.

    13. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by inKubus · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I didn't get it. Thank you for saving me from not getting my own joke. Thanks.

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    14. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      You're welcome.

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  59. My windshield washer tank by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 4, Informative
    Yes. My windshield washer tank. It's a minor quibble, true, but a source of irritation nevertheless.

    It's a pretty big tank. One US gallon. Seems like a good idea, since I'm in the US, and windshield washer fluid is sold by the gallon. Just buy a gallon, fill the tank, done.

    Except that's not how it works. I've got a "washer fluid low" sensor and light on the dash. It comes on when there's about 1/10th of a gallon left. Plenty of time to put more in before running out.

    So I go to the store, buy a gallon, pour in (by now) 15/16ths of the bottle, and now the tank is full. And I'm left with a 1 gallon jug with 1 cup of fluid in it. So the almost empty jug has to sit in the garage or the trunk until I use a little fluid.

    Sure would have been nice to have a 1.1 gallon tank.

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    1. Re:My windshield washer tank by CBravo · · Score: 2, Funny

      In this category: I had a car, an Opel Astra. When I wanted to use the windshield wiper fluid it would first use the windshield wiper to scratch all the dirt into the window and then add some fluid to wipe all of it away. The window had a ton of scratches.

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    2. Re:My windshield washer tank by Myself · · Score: 1

      Toyota got this half-right. My Matrix has a 1.3-ish gallon tank, so when it's low I can just dump a whole gallon in, no problem.

      How do I know it's low? The rear sprayer stops working. apparently the pump draws from a higher level in the tank than the front sprayer.

      Why is that silly? The Canadian version of the same car has a low-fluid indicator light. The US version does not. Also, the Canadian dashboard reads temperatures in Celsius, and the US version reads in Fahrenheit. There's no way to switch between the two.

    3. Re:My windshield washer tank by X-treme-LLama · · Score: 1

      Better. I can't for the life of me remember the car. I want to say it was a mid-90's low-end dodge, but keep in mind I might be pulling that from a mis-firing brain-cell.

      You had to remove the washer tank to access the battery. -- I'll repeat that -- You had to remove the windshield washer tank to JUMP THE CAR. (along with another part if I remember, it wasn't my car I just had to jump it a couple times..)

      Now granted they used a handy plastic sort of thumbscrew to attach the tank to it's mount, so it didn't involve tools, but it was still a massive pain in the ass, IN THE DARK!

    4. Re:My windshield washer tank by xdroop · · Score: 1

      So I go to the store, buy a gallon, pour in (by now) 15/16ths of the bottle, and now the tank is full. And I'm left with a 1 gallon jug with 1 cup of fluid in it. So the almost empty jug has to sit in the garage or the trunk until I use a little fluid.
      Ahh, but with a little thinking you can make this work in your favor. Especially if you don't have a warning device that you are about to go empty.

      My windshield washer fluid resevoir is 3 litres, and I buy fluid by the four liter container. I put the 3/4 empty container in my trunk (I have an old milk crate for this) and drive around with it. So what happens is that when I run out of fluid, in the dark, when it is messy weather, and miles away from any service station, I pull over to the side of the road, put the remaining litre of fluid in, and then buy a replacement 4 litre container the next time I gas up. Then when the 1 litre runs out, I refill from the new container, and the cycle repeats. So I always either have spare fluid ready, or I am on my way to buy some.

      My wife thought I was excessive about this, but her car has a 4 litre capacity with no warning function and keeps running out of fluid miles away from a gas station.

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    5. Re:My windshield washer tank by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could fill the damn thing up with water and a bit of detergent, and stop killing the world with useless packaging, product distribution, etc..

    6. Re:My windshield washer tank by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hope it doesn't get cold

      water freezes and makes it very fun to drive.

    7. Re:My windshield washer tank by redline452 · · Score: 1

      > The Canadian version of the same car has a low-fluid indicator light. The US version does not. In Canadian winters, not having washer fluid is about as bad as not having gas. And running out of gas on the highway slows you down, whlie running out of washer fluid leaves you travelling at speed with instant zero visibility as the wipers smear your windshield into opacity. My Datsun (showing my age) had a 'low fluid' light that would flicker and flash with the sloshing liquid as the level got low, then when it was even lower would stay on solid - at which point it was far less noticeable. So when you eventually ran out completely, you'd glance at the indicator which read WASHER but was really saying ITOLDYOUSO.

  60. auto-lock doors on vans by compro01 · · Score: 1

    i really hate the automatic locking on ford vans. you shift into drive, all the doors lock and the rear power sliding doors disable themselves. the motors actively resist the doors being opened! and there is no way to disable the latter behaviour!

    probably lawyer-proofing so some idiot doesn't jump out of a van on the freeway and sue, but it makes it severely annoying when you need to get out quickly (stopped at a stoplight and dropping off someone), as it does this even when the vehicle is at a complete stop. it won't let you out unless the damn thing is in park.

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    1. Re:auto-lock doors on vans by splatterboy · · Score: 1

      This is the "anti-abduction" feature, so kidnappers and molesters everywhere can abduct their hostage knowing said hostage can't escape - even if the hostage struggles free.

      Seriously - if Ford is the only van that has this "feature" and I was a cop looking for a kidnapper, like during an amber alert, I'd stop every Ford cargo van on the road.

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  61. Windows Explorer by Von+Helmet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why the heck can't it show me the size of directories in detail view? When I need to find out which program has suddenly eaten the remaining 12GB of hard disk it's tiresome to recurse through every directory, right clicking and checking the size.

    1. Re:Windows Explorer by nuggetman · · Score: 1

      Switch to detail view in the finder. Press CMD+J. Check "Calculate all sizes"

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      ...and that's all there is to it.
    2. Re:Windows Explorer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where is this CMD key again? All I seem to have is CTRL, ALT, and this funky key with a windows logo on it.

    3. Re:Windows Explorer by X-treme-LLama · · Score: 1

      Well fuckin' A...

      Thank you, why the hell I didn't know that was there, I don't know. But it has resolved one of my larger issues with Finder/OS X...

      Now if only I could get get safe sleep (aka hibernate) to work (it won't).. But that's what I get for running OS X on a Dell laptop...

      Still better than windows.

  62. Text-stream interruptions by athloi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the world of user design foolishness, the worst by far are programs that interrupt you while typing with error windows, pop-ups or windows suddenly gaining focus. Internet Explorer, I am talking to you here, as well as every other program that pops up a brain-dead window demanding me to hit cancel or OK while I'm busy with more important things. It's like stopping the State of the Union address to change a lightbulb.

    In addition, any web page that doesn't follow sensible usability guidelines becomes a real pain in the neck. I read Jakob Nielsen to avoid most of these pitfalls when I code or design.

    1. Re:Text-stream interruptions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Antivirus makers are amongst the worst in this way, aren't they? Who cares if you're updating or scanning, stay out of the friggin' way when I'm working!

    2. Re:Text-stream interruptions by EvanED · · Score: 1

      In the world of user design foolishness, the worst by far are programs that interrupt you while typing with error windows, pop-ups or windows suddenly gaining focus. Internet Explorer, I am talking to you here, as well as every other program that pops up a brain-dead window demanding me to hit cancel or OK while I'm busy with more important things

      Oooo, that was one of the things I liked best with the Firefox 1.0 -> 1.5 transition, it moving from dialogs to inform you about connection failures to just a bad page. (Actually wasn't IE ahead in this? At least in that exact respect?)

      What's worse is when you're tying along, a dialog pops up, and you hit space or enter before you can stop typing, thus making the dialog go away and doing who-knows-what. AIM used to do that a fair amount, and it was one of the reasons I started using Gaim even on Windows.

    3. Re:Text-stream interruptions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is that why your website looks like shit?

    4. Re:Text-stream interruptions by l0b0 · · Score: 1

      This also happens on KDE, even with window focus stealing prevention set to "normal". Firefox does it, Gaim does it, and pretty much any other program I've used so far. Get the $#!* off my text field, you #$%*!

  63. XML by hcgpragt · · Score: 1

    XML for everything except higlevel communication between systems (read webservices)
    Especially config files
    Horrible files I had to edit...

    1. Re:XML by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 1

      But with XML for a configuration file, you have the option of using a simple XSLT doc to do nifty things like... turn it into a .ini file?

      Hmmm.... never mind.

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  64. VMWare by 26199 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I few 'doh' moments using VMWare.

    Why does it let Ctrl-Alt-Del through to the hosted machine? It pops up a box telling you that you probably didn't want to do that, since both the server and the host see the keypress; but it sends it anyway. Result: lock your windows PC and reboot your virtual Linux box. Well, fine, I can get around that. (Just stop Ctrl-Alt-Del from rebooting the Linux box).

    But why have Ctrl-R reboot the hosted machine? Ctrl-R which is used all the time when interacting with a shell. It's not exactly difficult to accidentally press Ctrl-R when the VM window has focus but the hosted machine itself does not. Gah.

    Sigh.

    1. Re:VMWare by tonyb452 · · Score: 1

      It lets Ctrl+Alt+Del through because on Windows PCs, this key sequence is known as a Non-Maskable Interrupt. This means that, short of hijacking the keyboard driver and changing the mapping from actual to virtual key or other very low level actions, the key sequence cannot be overridden. As a single interface across all versions of the product makes the upgrade treadmill less difficult and OS switching simpler (sit down at any computer with any version of the software and you don't have to be concerned with the underlying OS or other details) and as VMWare's goal is to make money and that means pleasing the largest market and not pissing off the lesser markets as much as the competitors, the interface was likely designed mainly with Windows in mind, with linux support added on where it did not interfere with the Windows capabilities. That said, VMWare very well could have fairly simply modified the interface so the linux version of the software could have reflected the difference in host OS, but this of course would have taken time, and time is money, and any additional money spent gets passed on to the consumer, which results in a decrease in consumers, so they followed the simple rule "You can't please everyone all the time, so be nice to the bear because unless it's a very vicious beast and you lack a holy hand grenade, the cuddly bunny isn't going to be much of a threat". That being said, what would be truly ideal would be for VMWare to adopt a plugin system with platform-independent modules (or at least as platform-independent as possible, if the SDK supported lower-level operations they would obviously e less cross-platform) that would allow you to modify the VMWare behavior, interface, display, and addditional details, but that would require relinquishing some modicum of control of their software and most big software companies are against that. Live and let live.

    2. Re:VMWare by Seq · · Score: 1

      The real problem is that VMWare already has a viable workaround for the issue. CTRL+ALT+Insert sends C-A-D to the virtual machine in question. C-A-D gets caught by the host machine (Assumign windows like the gp, or myself at work) and pops up the lock windows dialog. When you log back in, you have a dialog from VMWare saying CTRL-Alt-Del is intercepted by the host, so don't use it for the client. But passes it to the client anyway, so even if you understand and use C-A-I for the client, it still passes C-A-D.

      For Linux, it is trivial to disable C-A-D handling, however, to prevent virtual linuxes from rebooting. I just find it odd that there is an issue, and a workaround, and even following the workaround, the issue persists.

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  65. MacBook Pro Light Sensor. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    While the keyboard is Lighting up is OK. But it can also adjust the brightness of the screen. Which is a real pain because the sensors are in the speakers right where I can put my hand as well changes on the screen cause the screen to flicker.

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    1. Re:MacBook Pro Light Sensor. by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      You should try using it during a rock show or some other event where the lights flash. It's especially exciting because there's a slight delay for changing brighness so you usually end up with the screen bright right after the light flashes and then dark right after it comes on again

  66. Most useless feature ever... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After installing XP:

    The wizard could not find the software on your computer for...
    ? Ethernet Controller

    It is recommended that you connect to the internet so that the wizard can search online and look for the appropriate software!

    (sigh)

    1. Re:Most useless feature ever... by Kalriath · · Score: 1

      "We're sorry, you have encountered a problem the modem troubleshooter cannot help you solve.

      Click here to access the internet to look for more solutions to this problem"

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  67. Six things by ISurfTooMuch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. Universal remotes. Great idea in theory, but they're often hard as hell to program, especially after you lose the programming guide. Even when they're programmed correctly, they still can't perform some important function that the original remote can, so you end up having to keep both of them around, which defeats the purpose of the universal remote.

    2. The meaningless icons on many electronic devices. Yeah, I know, they use them so they don't have to label the buttons in different languages for each country they sell the products in, but all these things seem to do is equally confuse everyone around the world as to what they mean.

    3. Convoluted shower controls. I swear, every time I take a shower in a hotel, I have to spend several minutes figuring out how the damn controls work. How about faucet manufacturers stop trying to be cute and just give me one knob for cold, one knob for hot, and a control to switch from bath to shower. I can take it from there.

    4. Wall warts. I know they serve a purpose, but do they really need to be on the end of the cord, where they take up three spots on the power strip? How about placing them in the middle of the cord, so I can use more than three plugs on my six-outlet strip.

    5. Windows XP's habit of constantly reminding you that the computer needs to be restarted after an update. Memo to XP: I told you five minutes ago that I didn't want to restart, and I haven't changed my mind. How about you shut the fuck up, and when I'm ready to restart, I'll get back to you.

    6. So-called water-saving toilets. Sure, they use less water, but they don't work worth a shit (pun intended). So, do you really save any water when you have to flush them twice because the first time wasn't entirely successful?

    1. Re:Six things by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1

      3. Convoluted shower controls. I swear, every time I take a shower in a hotel, I have to spend several minutes figuring out how the damn controls work. How about faucet manufacturers stop trying to be cute and just give me one knob for cold, one knob for hot, and a control to switch from bath to shower. I can take it from there.

      I encountered a shower in the USA which had a single scale - which controlled both temperature and water-flow.

      No, it wasn't some fancy two-axis effort - it was a single handle, which turned around a single axis. I think there was some complex mechanical look-up function inside, to turn the one-variable input into a two-variable output. It confused the hell out of me. Plus the bog-roll holder was carefully hidden under the section with the sink - so for the first day or two I was using the complimentary tissues to wipe my smelly arse.

      Still, not as bad as a hotel shower in Italy - where I pressed an unlabelled button, and it proceeded to blast me with icy-cold water from all sides. Instant wake-up.
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    2. Re:Six things by WasterDave · · Score: 1

      4. Wall warts. I know they serve a purpose, but do they really need to be on the end of the cord, where they take up three spots on the power strip? How about placing them in the middle of the cord, so I can use more than three plugs on my six-outlet strip.

      Apple ones are really narrow. *And* come with a cable so you can have them in the middle.
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    3. Re:Six things by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      No, it wasn't some fancy two-axis effort - it was a single handle, which turned around a single axis. I think there was some complex mechanical look-up function inside, to turn the one-variable input into a two-variable output.

      Hah, you wish! Actually, it probably just opened the two valves in sequence (and closed the first, cold, one again) so that you could either have a scalding-hot shower at full pressure or a comfortable-temperature trickle of water, but not a comfortable, full pressure shower.

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    4. Re:Six things by pedrop357 · · Score: 1

      Sadly enough, there may be some reason for that.

      In/around 1999, I was a dishwasher at a new casino in Biloxi. We had all sorts of issues with lukewarm water. The engineers came around and began looking at the overhead sprayer we used-on the business end, it had a single control lever on it for pressure control and at the opposite end it had seperate hot and cold controls. They told us that the hot water had lower pressure then the cold and by having both valves essentially opening into another restriction that allowed the hot/cold to 'interact', cold water was flushing back into the hot system. I don't know far back into the system, but enough that all kitchens on the barge were eventually effected (turns out all kitchens did this :) )

      My apartment shower starts with the knob facing 6 o'clock, turning the knob counterclockwise to the 9 o'clock position gives seemingly only hot water, easing the knob clockwise begins to dial in the cold water and brings up the power of the shower. Continue clockwise and you get all cold water and then the pressure begins to drop to 0. The fun part is I've been to hotels that did this only they started right away with ramping up the hot water, and continuing dialed in the cold water.

    5. Re:Six things by Bonobo_Unknown · · Score: 1

      "5. Windows XP's habit of constantly reminding you that the computer needs to be restarted after an update. Memo to XP: I told you five minutes ago that I didn't want to restart, and I haven't changed my mind. How about you shut the fuck up, and when I'm ready to restart, I'll get back to you." AMEN BROTHER!!! It was only today I was thinking the exact same thing.

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    6. Re:Six things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like Google is your friend.

      (Posting AC to preserve mod points)

    7. Re:Six things by sys_mast · · Score: 1

      #1 - I agree with your first comment for the most part. I have found some 'universal' remotes from some cable providers that are actually EASY to program! AND the direction to program are printed(from the factory I think) on the bottom of the remote! It does take some time because it requires you to hold a key(volume up I think) until your device turns off. But when I have had to do it I could program a TV and another device like VCR in less than 10 minutes WITHOUT having the book to program it!

      I guess my point is that, it is possible to make a good universal remote. Somebody just needs to make one NOT laid out for a cable box. And it would be nice if you could buy it for a cheap price at normal stores.

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    8. Re:Six things by iamdrscience · · Score: 1

      6. So-called water-saving toilets. Sure, they use less water, but they don't work worth a shit (pun intended). So, do you really save any water when you have to flush them twice because the first time wasn't entirely successful?
      In general, I find this to be true, but there are some exceptions. About 15 years ago my parents remodeled our house which included replacing toilets in our two existing bathrooms and adding on another bathroom as well. All three of these are low-flow toilets, but they are, without a doubt, the BEST toilets I have ever used, bar none. Unlike most low-flow toilets, they very rarely need to be flushed twice (no more often than a regular toilet) and they are essentially uncloggable as well. Even when stuffed with a huge amount of toilet paper they rarely clog and when they have clogged, they can almost always be cleared simply by flushing the toilet again. I can only recall having to use a plunger on them once ever in 15 years.

      So yes, while in general I agree with your sentiment on low-flow toilets, there are always exceptions. It's too bad that you usually can't test out toilets before you buy them to find out whether they're any good.
    9. Re:Six things by plover · · Score: 1

      1. Universal remotes. Great idea in theory, but they're often hard as hell to program, especially after you lose the programming guide. Even when they're programmed correctly, they still can't perform some important function that the original remote can, so you end up having to keep both of them around, which defeats the purpose of the universal remote.

      The Harmony remotes by Logitech solve this problem *completely*. You don't program them directly, you use their web page to pick what components you have, and then it walks you through filling out some use cases! It figures out from your list that you have a TV, a cable box and a DVD player/audio amplifier. It then figures you'll probably want to have the sound system on while you watch cable TV, so it prompts you to tell it which input you select to listen to the audio. It asks a few other questions, but that's pretty much it for setup. Then, it transmits (via USB) all the commands and setup to your remote. The "Watch Cable TV" button powers on all three devices. The number buttons are automatically mapped to change channels on the cable box. The volume buttons crank the amplifier up and down. Everything just works automagically.

      Plus, the remote keeps track of state. If you are watching cable, then hit the "Watch a DVD" button, the cable box is turned off, the TV input is set to your DVD input, and the disc starts playing. The number buttons are remapped to send commands to the DVD player instead of the cable box.

      If things get out of sync, you hit the help button and it prompts you through a series of simple questions, sending IRs until everything works. If you just have to do something manually, you can hit the "device" button and every button from your original remote is available. And finally, you can set up all kinds of extra things manually via their web site.

      I've installed a few systems with these remotes, and I own two myself.

      Two drawbacks. The first is price: $200+ is a bit much for some people. But once they see one in action, they suddenly become a "must have". The other drawback is the crappy recharging cradle. It's all soft and rounded, making it hard to line up the remote. And it's got a giant glowing blue circle that'll light up a room; the remote mostly blocks the light when it's seated but it still glows evilly. And the contacts corrode a bit over time, and the remote beeps and flashes every time power is connected. A more robust charging mechanism would be greatly appreciated.

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    10. Re:Six things by NotmyNick · · Score: 1

      Sounds like Google is your friend [lifehacker.com].
      Sounds like you've never tried it on XP home or MCE where the GPE is not available even if you pull the gpedit.msc from Pro.
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    11. Re:Six things by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      So yes, while in general I agree with your sentiment on low-flow toilets, there are always exceptions. It's too bad that you usually can't test out toilets before you buy them to find out whether they're any good.

      I think in general, it's one of those "you get what you pay for" things. The problem with low-flow toilets is that, like most things mandated by the government, there's no performance standard (like being required to be able to flush a huge turd in a controlled test). So many manufacturers just do the minimum, especially on their cheapest models. Then the homebuilders of course use the cheapest components in building a house that they can, so they buy the crappiest toilets available. Most people don't custom-build houses, so they get stuck with these cheap, crappy toilets, and then blame it on the government low-flow requirement.

      Buy a $250-500 toilet and you probably won't have many problems with clogging.

  68. Panasonic Microwave goofiness by awfar · · Score: 1

    My new stainless steel microwave has a very nice, modern looking, lcd display, except that if you place it onto a counter you cannot read the display because of viewing angle problems; I mean not at all, until you back away several feet, stoop down, or stand on your toes. You then struggle to once again to touch the appropriate keys to start it.

    I wanted to turn it onto its side and keep it that way but my wife said No!

    Just plain dumb.

    1. Re:Panasonic Microwave goofiness by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1

      My new stainless steel microwave has a very nice, modern looking, lcd display, except that if you place it onto a counter you cannot read the display because of viewing angle problems; I mean not at all, until you back away several feet, stoop down, or stand on your toes. You then struggle to once again to touch the appropriate keys to start it.

      I feel quite relieved with my cooker.

      It does have a timer, but it's clockwork. Turn it to however many minutes you need, tick-tick-tick-bing it counts down.

      Electric functions: an oven-light, and an electric grill. Both have two settings: on, and off.

      Four gas burners, a gas oven. Each has an analogue controller knob, going from off to full power. To light a burner, stick a lit match in the direction of one of the nozzles. For the oven, stick lit match in appropriate orifice.

      It's fantastic. I don't think I could cope with a microwave - they sound far too complicated...
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    2. Re:Panasonic Microwave goofiness by Eccles · · Score: 1

      I managed to summon the fire department to my comp sci building about 15 years ago this way.

      Microwave had hard to read display from off angles. If someone cooked something but didn't finish it, the time remaining stayed on the display. If you then entered (say) 15 seconds, it would *keep* the digits from the previous time and append yours. So I put a bagel in to heat for 15 seconds and went in to talk to someone. Several minutes later, the fire alarm went off, presumably after the bagel had been cooking for several minutes (plus 15 seconds.)

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  69. Word Processor Spelling/Grammar Checker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is my biggest pet peeve. Writing is a creative process. I often choose, for one reason or another, to express something in a way that might not be considered 'standard' English. Technical writing is packed with such choices. So is emailing a good friend who you've spent years developing a secret language with. Then I've got the blasted Word Processor putting ugly red and green squiggles under half of my words. I try to play along at first, thinking maybe the computer knows something that I don't. I try teaching it my style. But as soon as I type a new word or phrase in, there it goes with the accusatory squiggles again. Like it's telling _me_, that _I'm_ the one that's wrong. This is some stupid machine algorithm trying to over-ride my conscious intentions and turn my ideas into pure machine pablum. This will be the real reasons humans and robots will some day wage war. The robots simply have no understanding of human creativity, instead, the loathe anyone or anything that violates their sense of rigid conformity. I say 'bring em on'. I say pull the plug now on your spelling/grammar checkers, and start typing and talking like a real live autonomous human being.

  70. gas pump beeping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm getting fed up with loud, persistent beeping on every step of the data entry process on gas pumps. Mobil is especially bad. The beeps seem to hit just the right frequency as the nails on a chalkboard kind, and you just want to push it through as fast as you can. What purpose does it serve? There's already a perfectly good feature that tells you that you're not ready to pump gas - NO GAS coming out of pump, AND the LCD screen. Can you name one other piece of technology that beeps loudly at you EVERY SINGLE STEP of the way through its functions?

  71. Lower the screen brightness by DrYak · · Score: 1

    It is better to be alerted your battery is dying, than to discover you've missed hours of important calls.


    The things is its not that much complicated to have a brightness control that'll decide how much power is spent on lighting the screen (you don't need full lights, unless you're using it to actually light your environment).
    Most of the device have it, and some (like the future iPhone) are even advertised to adapt brightness to needs automatically.

    It's not that complicated either, once the battery is detected to be low, to force a limit on brightness to save batters (like no matter what the user settings or photo-detector tell - when battery is low, brightness never exceeds 25%). My few-years old Palm Tungsten does it.

    The poster is complaining of gadgets that have backlights you could almost tan with. That are always stuck at full power. And in this case alerts are just a form of useless battery suicide : whenever the screens turns on to alert user, whatever was left in the battery is almost immediately drained by the 2000 lumen flashlightscreen. Alerts would be a good idea, if the phone still managed to keep some power to display them long enough for the user to notice.
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  72. Casablana ceiling fan remotely dimmable light hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some Casablanca ceiling fans have built-in, dimmable room lights. The remote control uses one button to control the light's intensity. One press turns the light on to its last set brightness (fine). Press and hold causes the light to cycle back and forth between lowest and brightest setting; there's no "full brightness" press, you have to stop pressing when you think it's at full brightness (if you missed it, you have to go around the cyle again).

    But the worst part is this, no matter what the current intensity setting is (even lowest, I just got the kids to sleep setting), the double-press that is used to turn off the light FIRST BRINGS THE LIGHT TO FULL BRIGHTNESS, and THEN turns off.

    If I hadn't of bought two of them, I'd have assumed it was a defect. I wrote to the company and was told they don't accept user comments!

  73. Those Bings, as a class, really annoy me. by robbak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Cars that bing at me are my pet annoyance.

    Let me explain. I have a Toyota Camry, 1993 vintage. No Bings. When you leave your lights on, the car _turns them off for you_ when you open the drivers door! Nice stuff, works very cleanly, and I only turn my headlights switch off occasionally.

    My parent's car (Ford Falcon) does bing. "Well turn the stupid things off yourself, then!" is my standard response.

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    1. Re:Those Bings, as a class, really annoy me. by mrchaotica · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I own a 2003 Hyundai Accent, one of the cheapest cars available (third only to the Chevy Aveo and Kia Rio at the time). After having rented a Toyota Corolla while it was in the shop (for accident repair, not because anything broke), I became very thankful to have it because the supposedly "nicer" car drove me insane by trying to do stuff for me! It would turn on the dashboard light according to a sensor (making me think the headlights were on when they weren't), lock or unlock the doors on its own, etc. Especially annoying was that it would shift gears for itself, which meant it was often not in the gear I wanted (which is a problem for low-horsepower cars like that).

      There's a not-so-fine line between being "helpful" and trying to outsmart the user. And unfortunately, most cars to day are waaaay beyond it!

      My next car will probably be a manual-transmission Honda Insight, to which I will add a MIMA kit. I like knowing and controlling exactly what the car's doing, damnit!

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    2. Re:Those Bings, as a class, really annoy me. by weighn · · Score: 1

      When you leave your lights on, the car _turns them off for you_ when you open the drivers door! Nice stuff, works very cleanly, and I only turn my headlights switch off occasionally. although it must be quite annoying to have to leave your car door open *ducks*
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    3. Re:Those Bings, as a class, really annoy me. by Mark+Hood · · Score: 1

      My car is smarter than me... If the full beams are on, stopping the engine turns them off. But if I only have the sidelights on, they stay on when I get out (and it bings to tell me).

      I assume it's so that you can leave some low level of illumination on to prevent people driving into your parked car - but not leave your main lights on to drain the battery.

      Mark

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    4. Re:Those Bings, as a class, really annoy me. by evilviper · · Score: 1

      When you leave your lights on, the car _turns them off for you_ when you open the drivers door!

      And when you leave your keys in the ignition, it deploys the built-in robotic arm to remove them, roll down the window, and skillfully catapult the keys directly into your pocket as you walk away.

      Seatbelt not fastened? Door ajar? Robotic arm!

      I'll be here all week!
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    5. Re:Those Bings, as a class, really annoy me. by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      I've got a bad door ajar sensor somewhere, so my van dings continually.

      Unless I'm parked, I ignore it.

    6. Re:Those Bings, as a class, really annoy me. by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 1

      Especially annoying was that it would shift gears for itself, which meant it was often not in the gear I wanted (which is a problem for low-horsepower cars like that).
      Granted, I normally drive a stick so I don't have a lot of experience, but how else would an automatic transmission work?

    7. Re:Those Bings, as a class, really annoy me. by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      I was complaining about the fact that it had a slushbox. I drive a stick too.

      To answer your question, though, I suppose a CVT or DSG would have been acceptable.

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  74. SysRq by ISurfTooMuch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know that SysRq originally had a reason for existence, but its functionality was never used, and that was many years ago. If it hasn't been used by now, it won't be, so how about reassigning that key to do something useful. Just pick a use, since just about anything is better than its current use, which is absolutely nothing.

    1. Re:SysRq by Detritus · · Score: 2, Informative

      It does get used by IBM terminal emulators, which are still being used in many places.

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    2. Re:SysRq by knorthern+knight · · Score: 3, Informative

      In linux, read the file /usr/linux/src/Documentation/sysrq.txt and select the following kernel option while running "make menuconfig"

      Kernel hacking --->
      [*] Magic SysRq key

      If your system is locked up, you can at least hit {ALT-SysRq-s} to force a sync to save data before hitting the power button. This can avoid filesystem corruption. There are various commands that can be executed. Read the documentation file I mentioned above for more details.

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    3. Re:SysRq by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      WTF?! Alt-SysRq? Why would it make you hit the Alt key too?

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    4. Re:SysRq by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, my keyboard has the key pulling double-duty as both SysRq and PrtScrn. I use it CONSTANTLY for taking screenshots to show non-geeks what I'm talking about, recording error messages, etc.

      I suppose you could get rid of the extra SysRq lettering, but it doesn't seem to really be harming anything...

    5. Re:SysRq by m50d · · Score: 1

      So you don't do it accidentally, since one of the available commands is "instant reboot, no syncing/unmounting" ?

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    6. Re:SysRq by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Windows, it copies a screen dump to the clipboard.

    7. Re:SysRq by Goaway · · Score: 1

      That's a funny definition of "many" there.

    8. Re:SysRq by parkrrrr · · Score: 1

      How about "break to the Windows kernel debugger?" That'd be a nice function to put on that key.

      You know, if it weren't already on that key.

      (If you're not in the habit of running the kernel debugger at all times, your life must be truly boring. As a bonus, having the kernel debugger active and attached to a debug terminal completely eliminates any risk of accidentally running Skype.)

  75. Silent cell phone feature by theinfobox · · Score: 1

    My Motorola phone automatically switches to a silent ring when I charge it. I usually charge it when I am at work. The funny thing is that the voicemail notification is still audible. In effect, what happens is that I don't realize I have a call until I hear the voicemail alert.

    Why would it switch to silent while it is being charged? Makes no sense to me. I can switch it out of silent mode, but it still seems stupid.

    1. Re:Silent cell phone feature by FSWKU · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You should try mine, then. The instant I plug it in, the damned thing goes from whatever setting it was on, to "Loud". Now, as I usually charge my phone at night, this is a BAD thing. Really, Motorola, why can't the damned thing just keep whatever volume setting it was currently at? My old Nokia never had this problem. Plug in the power cable, and the only change was the battery meter would animate to show me it was charging...

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    2. Re:Silent cell phone feature by Myself · · Score: 1

      This is the phone thinking it has a hands-free kit plugged in, or some such. Clean the connector on the bottom, or have it repaired.

      Motorola's horrible little connectors on cellphones rate pretty high on my list of engineering messes, btw. What was wrong with modular connectors? What was wrong with D-sub, for that matter? The charging connector on a cellphone takes a lot of stress and should be at least as strong as, say, the charging connector on a laptop.

  76. itunes/ipod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Might as well add the entire itunes program.

    After plugging it in on one of its DAILY charges (does holding down the pause button not mean off??), my position on the playlist is reset. Thanks asshole!

    in the menus, going back is UP!@ but going forward, is ENTER. HOW IS THAT CONSISTANT (this is not configurable)

    it tries to reset your install drive to C on the itunes upgrade. me: Thats funny, I dont usually install programs to C: .. HMM THE LAST SHORTCUT POINTS TO Y: DOESNT IT NOW??? (detecting where a program has been previously installed.. a simple feature I had taken for granted in every single windows app ever made...)

    hovering over the... whatever the "eye" "nbc" icon means, brings up the alt text BELOW the system tray/taskbar. Thanks.

    I must click "CANCEL" on downloading album artwork EVERY TIME I start itunes. Look itunes, you dont seem to be capturing the message here. I DONT WANT FUCKING ALBUM ART. THAT IS WHY I CLICK CANCEL AND CLOSE EVERYTIME.

    Impossible to tell CURRENT ipod version from itunes.

    Installing desktop items and installing QUICK LAUNCH items are two VERY seperate things.

    When dragging tracks to a playlist it auto adds them to the end, instead of the exact place you place them with the mouse. I mean if im taking the time to drag it to a certain place, why not honour my request? Do mac users lack mouse precision skills or something?

    If you have a bad headphone jack (or bad set of phones, or car amp,etc), the ipod will pause playing, as it detects the jack removal and reinsertion and ADJUSTS itself accordingly. There is no way to disable this "feature". thanks apple but id actually rather it not pause itself when the jack is removed. Oh! no one has gone against the groupthink before? so you never even considered making it configurable?? AN ESSENTIAL THING THAT EVERYONE DOES LIKE TAKE THE HEADPHONES OUT OF THEIR IPOD??????

    Connected with above, you cannot actually move around the songs in a randomized playlist. What if I want some tracks un randomized and just want to start with a random seed of tracks from a playlist. OK APPLE? I really dont want to micromanage shit, BUT IF I ADD SOMEHTING NEW i want to move it aorund to WHER I WANT. Just to be clear, what I mean is that you drag a bunch of songs to a playlist. Randomize it, then go to add more songs / move the newly added songs around. It prevents you from doing this. So essentialy, there is no such thing to apple as a semi ordered random. Its either randomized the way IT chooses, or micromanaged to death by me. There is no middle ground. This is not configurable.

    Cannot delete items off the ipod without a computer.

    Must click "copy to play order" usually twice, in order to get your playlists to actually update on the ipod. This is not configurable.

    I have no idea why everyone loves itunes/ipod so much. Its so annoying in many basic ways.

    1. Re:itunes/ipod by X-treme-LLama · · Score: 0

      Eh. Don't blame Apple, they usually design and program for a far superior operating system. They're just not used to programing for windows..

      Of course the real wtf is that you didn't by a shiny new mac to go along with your ipod :)

  77. Keyboard layouts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keyboards with weird layouts. I want my backslash over my enter key. I want my home/end/ins/del/pg up/pg down keys in the classic 3 x 2 cluster I've used for years. I want my function keys in groups of four. I want a numeric keypad. I want two alts, two ctrls, two windows, and one context menu key. Don't mix multimedia keys in with standard keys. Both cheapo and expensive keyboards seem to have slight to drastic variations.

    1. Re:Keyboard layouts by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      I want a backwards "L" shaped enter key the way it's meant to be! That backslash over the enter key is just bad. The backslash should be under the backwards L shaped Enter key. If it's not there, I can forgive that, I don't use it much anyways, as long as the forward slash it where it belongs. I do agree with the 3x2 cluster statement and refuse to buy a keyboard that does it differntly. Nothing is more anoying that trying to use VIM with an insert key you can't find. It's also quite annoying to hit suspend every time you want to hit Pause/Break or power off for Print Screen. The last keyboard I actually used that put the power keys where those belonged had its keys ripped off until the whole board was replaced. Let's not forget that the arrow keys belong with the up key top and middle with left, down, and right below it.

      The Windows keys really don't belong, but I've grown used to them. It's ok if they're there, but it might be a good idea to use a dremmel tool to remove the logo's. The context key on the keyboard is near unto useless.

      I actually like multimedia keys, as long as they live up and out of the way of the classic keyboard.

      IMHO this is one of the best designed keyboards ever. (I have two, I don't plug in/use the touch pad on the one that has it)

      Since they don't make those anymore, I've found this to be a reasonable replacement.

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  78. The one I hate the most.. by FunWithKnives · · Score: 1

    Is all over my campus. Every single door has a built-in electromotor that, with the press of a button on the wall next to it, slowly opens the door for you. It is obviously meant to make the campus much more handicapped-accessible, and I agree with the premise. If you have ever seen someone in a wheelchair going through the motions of opening a heavy glass door, you would too. There is one thing that makes this "feature" an absolute pain in the ass, though. The electromotor, for some fucking reason, makes the door about three times as hard to open for those of us who don't need to do it automatically. It's like the hinges have been bathed in molasses and honey, and rusted over for a century or two. You would imagine that, with this in mind, everyone should just press the damn button on the side of the wall, but I don't like that at all. It just feels wrong. It's redundant as fuck for the people who don't need it, and it makes me feel like a fat, lazy-ass convenience-trumps-everything type of person. Besides the moral quandry, though, there is also the fact that, when the button is pressed, the door opens just about as fast as it would if you sat there and pulled on the thing anyway, maybe even slower. I've been going over this situation in my mind, and there has got to be something wrong with the setup. It just doesn't make any sense that all doors equipped such as these are would have this same, aneurysm-inducing effect. If anyone knows whether this little "feature" is unique to my campus or not, it'd be nice to have some sort of explanation for it.

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    1. Re:The one I hate the most.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We have the same motorized doors cropping up all over campus here. I agree that they are in principal a good idea. However, the university here is doing one of their money saving things and has chosen to use some kind Lego motors. Doors take a good few seconds to open and make a loud whining noise whilst doing so. This only lasts for a week or two after they've been put up -- after that they expire in a cloud of smoke. The doors then become quite hard to push open and form a good solid barrier for any person who hasn't been spending some time in the gymn. But the uni don't bother to fix them as this would be too expensive. So all doors have now become 2-3 times harder to open!
      It's probably something to do with some government 'equal opportunities for all' scheme or some other crap, or maybe health and safety. Either way it's a big fat waste of money and having the opposite effect to what they want...

    2. Re:The one I hate the most.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You wouldn't happen to go to ISU. They have those damn things everywhere .It makes me feel like a retard when I try to open the door and it ends up only opening halfway, but by this time I'm already halfway through the door and don't want to step back to finish opening the door so I end up sqeezing throught the small opening that is there. On top of that you look like a prick if there is anyone behind you because it looks like you purposely wanted the door to shut right behind you just to be an asshole.

    3. Re:The one I hate the most.. by penguinchris · · Score: 1

      At the University of Rochester, where I am a student, these are on all doors a wheelchair-bound person might need to go through. Most of them actually work pretty well; they open quickly and are not too difficult to open manually. There are some bad ones, of course.

      The real problem with these, though, is that since it is much easier to just press the button rather than manually open the door and hold it open for the person behind you, at least 80-90% of people hit the buttons every time. This means that on any given day at least 1/3 of the motors are not working because they are either broken or turned off. It would be pretty awful to try to go through the campus on a wheelchair when there aren't a lot of people around to help you out.

      The funny thing, though, is that chivalry/common courtesy on this campus is hitting the button for the cute girl walking behind you rather than holding the door open for them.

  79. Microwaves by inKubus · · Score: 1

    Someone should get together a data standard for a universal frozen food barcode. Each item has a special barcode on it that says some stuff like density, weight, specific heat, and then you scan it WITH THE MICROWAVE and it automatically calculates the best profile to heat the food. You could also have a few modes, "Quality" which might take longer (as it heats the food more slowly) or "Sport" which heats the food on maximum power but may result in a rubbery texture. Since all microwaves are different, this would go a long ways towards making the science of frozen food better without having to have 20 sets of written instructions.

    This could also be of GREAT use in a commercial setting.

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    1. Re:Microwaves by virgil_disgr4ce · · Score: 1

      It's interesting you mention this. A multidisciplinary project at the University of Florida College of Engineering integrated this idea into a "smart house" project for the elderly:

      http://www.napa.ufl.edu/2003news/smarthouse.htm

      IMHO the project was ambitious but mostly ridiculous. They jam-packed the house full of interesting ideas, but the student engineers really didn't seem to have a grasp on how little the elderly would actually care for all of the technological "improvements." Anyway, I always thought the microwave idea was kind of cool, though, but I think they were using RFID in the packaging (???!?!) which is just downright wasteful if not plain stupid.

    2. Re:Microwaves by sjames · · Score: 1

      Of course, you'll still end up with foods that are frozen inside and burn-your-tongue-to-ash on the outside because someone misplaced a decimal point in XML somewhere.

  80. Voicemail uses your minutes by visionsofmcskill · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is a reason those messages are so laborious with unnecesary pauses and bad order of menu options etc...

    The time you spend with your answering machine is money to the Tel-Co. If you have Pay-As-You-Go it DEFINTLY counts as 10c/minute. Considering that they bill you for two minutes even if you hang up at 61 seconds, its a very easy way for them to make millions.

    No joke, the more time you spend on the phone going through the various menu's the more time gets racked up, even if your on a plan your still burning minutes just trying to leave a message on someone elses phone.

    Text messaging is almost worse in its cost vs value, a singel text message is generally 10-20c (sending party and recieving party), and generally requires at least one reply ... another 10-20c... so one excahnge = 4 minutes of talk time. 4 minutes on the phone could accomplish a lot more... and uses way more bandwidth, but once again the tel-co's have it setup so that the more laborious the process, the more it costs you.

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    1. Re:Voicemail uses your minutes by vitalyb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Funny thing is, you start paying for the call as soon as you get the "answering machine" talking to you. So basically if you waited too long for the person to answer and you didn't hang up, you will pay without any regard to whether you leave a message or not.

      In Israel the latest Minister of Communication decided to put a stop to it and forced the telecom companies to place a voice warning you that you are about to get the "answering machine" so you have time to hang up before you pay for the call.

      Now listen and be amazed. When you listen to automatic message for free, the companies don't joke around, it goes something like "youwillbetransferedtomessagingservicenow". The whole message is said in about 2 seconds top, I am 23 years old and I doubt I am always able to hang up on time. I really doubt older people can hang it up on time to be "excused" of payment.

    2. Re:Voicemail uses your minutes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why I fucking HATE these kinds of big companies. If a corporation was a person, it would be an asshole.

    3. Re:Voicemail uses your minutes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But cellphone voicemail services like sprint/nextel and verizon let you check your voicemails from a land line also. Try it. Call your cell phone but don't answer it. When your voicemail picks up push * and the voicemail system will ask for your pin number. It works for mine and I get a lot of voicemails... also my cell phone doesnt have reception where I live so checking my voicemails from the home land line is nice.

    4. Re:Voicemail uses your minutes by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      i pay 3 cents to send text messages, incoming text is free, i pay 10c/min for all domestic calling, international starts at 25c/min but i have never used it so i don't care. and my voicemail announce is quick enough i am usually done in 15 seconds, if i have a bunch of messages, or one long one i will bump into the second minute of air time maybe once in three-four months.


      i think current net10 phones are 5 out and 5 in for text but everything else is the same. also verizon sucks massive horse cack, they had damned near 30 seconds of announcements first telling me my balance remaining, because they were too dumb to have it display on the phone, then drag out the welcome message to VM, then announce how many messages, then tell me it was starting the first message, then finally play the damned thing. oh and for the privledge of annoying VM i got to pay more for everything and have 88char SMS instead of standard length (160/120 i don't remember) that way any normal phone texting me would ding me twice if the sender exceeded 88 chars....sometimes... other times the first part or the last part would be cut off. if it was a long message this would happen together, so i would get the first 88 chars,skip to char 121 then get 121-240 as two messages, then get 241-328, missing the remaining characters off the end.


      also vz would charge me the SMS toll the instant i got one, net10 only charges for opened messages on newer phones, older ones like mine are programmed for free incoming SMS.

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    5. Re:Voicemail uses your minutes by The+Anachronist · · Score: 0

      [Funny thing is, you start paying for the call as soon as you get the "answering machine" talking to you]

      I'm living in Denmark and Lebara, my cell-phone provider, starts charging from the instant I _initiate_ the call, i.e. enter the number and press the "call" key. This means that I still pay the bawsic call charge - even if the number is engaged or unobtainable!

      Lebara sucks!

    6. Re:Voicemail uses your minutes by nfms · · Score: 1

      Portuguese mobile operators only start charging for the call 5 seconds after you hear the recorded message (The number you are trying to reach is unavailable, please leave your message after the tone), allowing you to hang up if you don't wish to leave a message. This mechanism has been in place since 2000 or thereabouts when ANACOM (National Communications Authority, the equivalent of the FCC) stepped in after thousands and thousands of complaints from people tired of being billed after calling someone only to find out their mobile was disconnected or outside coverage, forcing operators to implement the 5 second buffer period.

      I _think_ landline operators are also under legal obligation to implement a 5 second buffer but I can't be certain -- I haven't had a landline since 1999 or so, and haven't lived in Portugal for a few years now.

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    7. Re:Voicemail uses your minutes by hson · · Score: 1

      In Sweden it is somewhat better, if the person does not answer and you are reconnected to voicemail there are two dial tones with different amplitude before the voicemail answers. That leaves you with ~6 seconds fair warning.

    8. Re:Voicemail uses your minutes by sco08y · · Score: 1

      Funny thing is, you start paying for the call as soon as you get the "answering machine" talking to you.

      With my provider (CingularAT&T) I noticed that you start paying as soon as the phone starts ringing!

      When will companies learn that nothing leads to more customer dissatisfaction than being nickled and dimed?

  81. German Engineering by jrumney · · Score: 1

    Some Audis have a security "feature", where if you leave your keys in the ignition without the engine on for more than 30 seconds, the doors automatically lock and the alarm arms. Of course, like all German engineering, this is perfectly logical, you don't want your car being stolen because you were forgetful.

    1. Re:German Engineering by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      Actually, my Audi will relock the car if I don't open one of the doors within a set amount of time. So if I accidentally unlock the car while walking away or something, it will lock it for me. Nice idea.

      However, the trunk does not count as a door but is part of the security system. If I unlock the door and then open the trunk and I leave the trunk open when the lock re-engages, the alarm will go off.

      Oops.

      I can open the trunk without unlocking the car and everything works fine.

    2. Re:German Engineering by wllf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Some Volvo's have the same feature. Were I worked a couple of years ago, the manager went over to get his brand new Volvo. The salesman (also a manager) was showing all the nice features of the car. They were admiring the nice exterior of the car when suddenly there was a "click" and the doors locked. Too bad the keys were on the front seat and the spare keys in the dashboard compartment. I don't know exactly what they had to do to get into the car, but he returned without his shiny new car.

      Also fun are the keyless cars (Renault has them here in Europe). You get a credit card size "key" which on some models just has to be near the car to be able to start it. A friend of mine was testing a couple of Renaults for a magazine which had this feature. Accidentally he switched keys with another person. They both were able to start because they were parked close together and the range of the "keys" was large enough. Sometime later my friend had to stop while the other person drove on. After stopping the engine and trying to restart it he discovered that he had the wrong key. He quickly phoned the other person and told him NOT to switch off the engine and drive back. Later models have a warning system where the car starts to beep and shout that the key is out of range. Long live progress :)

    3. Re:German Engineering by Chuq · · Score: 1

      Subaru's are just the same (re-locking if you unlock and then don't open a door). However if you unlock the boot, the other doors will re-lock after the set amount of time but it will not set the alarm off.

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    4. Re:German Engineering by Inthewire · · Score: 1

      I've become accustomed to Honda's switchgear on motorcycles. A friend of mine got a new Harley the other day. I was riding it, and kept hitting the fucking horn, which is in the same position on a Harley as the "Cancel Turnsignal" button is on a Honda.

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  82. -1, Pedantic by 75th+Trombone · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's actually "Paper Cassette".

    Because I know you care. <3

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  83. telephones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that have baterries and a base where you charge them. The funny thing is that when there is a power failure you can't make phone calls because the base needs power!! Really handy in an emergency, uh?

    1. Re:telephones by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1

      That's why (in the UK at least) all such cordless phones have a warning somewhere on the box/in the manual that you should keep a 'regular' wired phone installed for emergency purposes.

  84. Programming a 1980s VCR... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Forget THAT. If setting the time wasn't enough of a pain, try programming a circa-1985 VCR to record something while you're on a week's vacation. No OSD, just a couple buttons and a teeny blue LED display. "Press and hold SET until PROGRAM appears and the time blinks..."

    But text messaging on a cellphone is even worse than that.

  85. 4 words - Microsoft Data Execution Prevention by LivinFree · · Score: 1

    This is perfect timing. A co-worker of mine came back from a meeting to this gem on his desktop.

    1. Re:4 words - Microsoft Data Execution Prevention by imsabbel · · Score: 1

      I dont get your point.

      His PC obviously has either a disk or memory error, or somebody trying to hack him.

      Restarting the explorer is trivial vs a busted stack...

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    2. Re:4 words - Microsoft Data Execution Prevention by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      because of the way MS integrated things starting with IE 4's windows desktop update its easy to end up web browsing within the explorer process.

      I'd much rather a bug in the IE engine caused a program the engine was running in to crash than allowed the attacker to exectute thier injected code.

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  86. Digital Rights Management by bitspotter · · Score: 1

    I can't believe no one has said Digital Rights Management (and not been modded to at least +4).

    What better example is there of a bug being shilled as a feature?

  87. Rotovator/Cultivator by edwazere · · Score: 1

    Rotovator/Cultivator hired recently.

    Amazingly stupid design, has a clutch which is disengaged when you pull up to the lever, but a dead mans handle you have to squeeze to keep it running.

    So when running it backwards, you have to let go of the clutch lever (which is cleverly just too far away to reach reliably) and if you let go of everything it carries on going straight over the top of you.

    If the clutch lever had simply been reversed (squeeze to go) you wouldn't need the dead man's handle, and it would stop immediately if you fell over with the thing going backwards at you.

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  88. No iPod volume control by WallaceAndGromit · · Score: 1

    The one major complaint I have about my iPod is that there is no volume control unless you are actually playing music or video content. I have on more than one occasion blasted the shit out of my ears. This mainly happens after watching video content played from my iPod on my TV. To hear anything through the TV you have to turn the volume all the way up on the iPod. After the video content finishes and playback stops, the volume remains all the way up, so when you start to listen to music, its still all the way up. There is no way to check the volume before you start to play something, and there is no way to change the volume before you start to play. Its the most fucking annoying "feature" I have experienced on something that is claimed to have the best interface for this class of device. I feel like filing a class action lawsuit for hearing damage.

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    1. Re:No iPod volume control by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 1

      Hmm, you're right, that's a good point. I suppose a work-around hack would be to make a long mp3 of silence and put it somewhere so it's quickly accessible from the main menu, like in a special playlist. Then you could play that first to adjust your volume before playing something else.

    2. Re:No iPod volume control by WallaceAndGromit · · Score: 1

      Problem is, I typically will forget that the volume is all the way up and simply start playing music. So even if I implemented the hack, I probably would not use it. Apple simply needs to allow users to set a default volume level that the ipod resets to when first starting to play. Its a simple software fix on apples part. I have emailed my complaint to apple several times, but won't hold my breath.

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  89. OS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I once saw an Operating System that would actually connect to the company that made it, and would imply that user was a thief if it found something it didn't like. And they had the nerve to call this "feature" an Advantage! I'm sure by now they've stopped doing it, and it was probably some overzealous junior programmer who snuck that in, but I swear I'm not making this up.

  90. Do traffic lights count? by thoughtlover · · Score: 1

    "What other examples of designer stupidity have you seen?"

    I use them everyday and they waste more of my time and money than (seemingly) everything else. Where are the 'smart intersections' with all the software and sensing devices we make nowadays?

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    1. Re:Do traffic lights count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be careful what you wish for with these so-called "smart" intersections. At night, some lights in my area are known to switch from blinking-yellow mode to a standard red-light, RIGHT when you'd have to slam on the breaks to actually stop.

      I've almost run red lights at least 3 times from it - one of these days I'm gonna end up with a ticket because the light went batshit on me.

  91. Splash screens, capslock, by tknd · · Score: 1

    Splashscreens: Please, no more splash screens. Just load the stupid application.

    Desktop and Program Icons: Applications that feel a need to always put their icons on the desktop (and 10 other places).

    Tool bars: There seems to be a "tool bar" for every service/web page these days.

    And one last one (that may not quite fit in the category but anyway):
    Mapping websites/tools that give you a single line text box to type your address. You listening Google/MS/Yahoo/Mapquest/etc? Give me a text-area control and you parse the stupid newlines! Whoever thought (and continues to think) that single line address inputs are great needs to be shot.

    1. Re:Splash screens, capslock, by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      I have this nice app at work that takes about 10 seconds to start. 3 seconds to load, 7 seconds displaying splash, doing nothing. After a recent upgrade you can click on splash and it closes and the app starts without any more waiting.

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  92. Rendered product fully useless by fishexe · · Score: 1

    I had a marine radio with me when I canoed the Mississippi. I mainly used it to listen to NWS weather reports, but occasionally to talk to lockmasters. When the battery got low, it would interrupt the audio stream to beep loudly three times, as well as displaying that the batteries were low on the screen. The problem was, it repeated this about every 15 seconds. This went on for at least a half an hour, meaning there was plenty of battery to use the thing for that time, but it was completely unusable due to the beeping. It would have been far more useful if it gave NO warning and just shut off when it was dead.

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  93. Stupid Westpac ATMs by funkdancer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    With picture of a stupid smiling biatch on ever screen, the last going much like "Please take your card, your money and your receipt IF YOU REQUESTED IT."

    My reaction, every time I see this, is an internal rage attack going like. "No goddammit ARGGGGH FFS I just said NO RECEIPT - You are a f*n computer program, FFS! ARRRRRRRRGH........ may your programmers rot in &@&%^T"

    If someone at Westpac or their ATM suppliers is reading this, please read the following and contact me for my contracting fees (I'll let you have it for a mere $10k, you'll more than make up for it in customer retention).

    IF (bReceiptRequested) {
        print "Please take your card and your money";
    }
    else {
        print "Please take your card, your money AND your receipt";
    }

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    1. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by funkdancer · · Score: 1

      Or the other way round, my head started spinning just thinking about the silliness of these machines and it obviously took away all my capacity for logic and properly reading the preview ... :P

      IF (bReceiptRequested) {
              print "Please take your card, your money AND your receipt";
      }
      else {
              print "Please take your card and your money";
      }

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    2. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by sr180 · · Score: 1

      Even better in most Australian ATMs, when entering how much money you want, you have to enter the dollars AND cents - even though you can only withdrawl in amounts of 20's or 50's.

      Right, i'll just withdrawl 20.15 cents. What? I cant? Then why did it let me enter it?

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    3. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by The_Sledge · · Score: 1

      One thing that always baffled me re ATMs... braille keys.

      "Hi, young man? Please help me, I can't really see the display on this ATM machine thing, can you please key in $50.00 withdrawal for me..."

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    4. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by netsharc · · Score: 1

      eh..

      print "Please take your card and your money";

      IF (bReceiptRequested) {
                      print " AND your receipt";
      }

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    5. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by brumby · · Score: 1

      One thing that always baffled me re ATMs... braille keys.

      Some of the ones I use also have a headphone socket. I haven't tried it out yet to hear what you get from it. But the keypads are the same on ones with and without the socket, so I'm guessing they're a standard module.

    6. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by brumby · · Score: 1

      With picture of a stupid smiling biatch on ever screen, the last going much like "Please take your card, your money and your receipt IF YOU REQUESTED IT."

      It can get worse. I always want the receipt. It asks if I want one, I say yes, it churns away, then realises it's out of paper or something, and says it can't print a receipt. Why it couldn't check before asking me is beyond me. Then it asks if I want to see my balance on screen. I say yes, and until Westpac upgraded them earlier this year, the screen would flicker. I'm guessing it showed me my balance for *one* *frame*. Then I'd get my money, and the message "Please take your card, your money and your receipt IF YOU REQUESTED IT."

      Considering how bad those things are at giving me what I ask, I should be grateful I at least get the money I asked for.

    7. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by adrian727 · · Score: 1

      hmm, you may try to withdraw 21 dollars too. I think the cents input is for transfer function. Is that the memory of ATM is so limited that the programmer reused every function rather than writing more?

    8. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is it that DRIVE THROUGH ATMs have braille? That to me seems even more asinine.

    9. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by Vombatus · · Score: 1
      NAB ATMs are annoying too. They beep at every keypress when you enter your PIN but when you try to do anything else after you have done this - no beep.

      One minute you are getting useful feedback that you have pressed a button correctly. Then you are left in the dark - did I press that button properly, or did i do something wrong?

      Drives me insane(r)

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    10. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Why make two versions?

      If you want drive-through ATMs to not have braille keypads, then now you have two items in your catalog, you need a mold for the non-braille keys and a mold for the braille keys, you need to stock both, you need to worry about banks that request the wrong kind, etc.

      It makes far more sense to just have the one kind that has braille keys. Those bumps probably add an extra 0.0001 cents to the manufacturing cost.

    11. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by ronadams · · Score: 1

      Because they're required to make ALL ATMs accessible, due to some legislation resulting from a flurry of greedy lawsuits tied to the Americans with Disabilities Act. Want to make a Diebold accountant weep? Ask him how much money the company spends complying with ADA regulations.

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    12. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by funkdancer · · Score: 1

      Yep - except (only since we are nitpicking) you got two ANDs there:

      and and
      vs
      , and

      Some of my old English teachers would probably argue that the ", and" option is the preferable option.

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    13. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

      Better yet, rebuilt AMC huts in the White Mtns of NH all have to be wheelchair accessable (since they are on federal land). There were 3 people I heard of who actually got up in chairs when the hut reopened. It took something like 25 people to help them. It added approx $50K to the cost of the hut. If you can get a chair up 5 miles of very rough mountain trail I don't see a doorway to the toilet stopping you.

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    14. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by grrrl · · Score: 1

      Except when they changed it (on some) and I once almost tried to take out $4000!

    15. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      I suspect you can enter cents because you can also make payments through that ATM. At the Credit Union that I deal with, you can pay your electric, natural gas and phone bill through the ATM. Just hit the "Make payment" menu option, enter the payment amount and which account to take it out of (saving or chequing) and put the payment stub portion of the bill in one of the supplied envelopes and put it in the slot.

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    16. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by coolgeek · · Score: 1

      Thanks, you just reminded me of what I think is one of the most stupid technical features ever:

      hungarian notation

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    17. Re:Stupid Westpac ATMs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One at the local Hy-Vee is buggy. It allows some fixed amounts like $20, $50, $100 or something, or "other". For other, the display shows xx.00, but the *machine* interprets it as 00.xx. So, yes, to get $200 out of it, you tell it you want $20,000! How buggy is that?

  94. 3 gripes by nuggetman · · Score: 1

    1. My 99 Saturn has an alarm system. Press the key fob once to lock, press twice to arm. Except it ALWAYS went off if you did not use the remote to unlock it. If you used the key it would sound the alarm evIen if you didn't explicitly arm it. I eventually disabled it using a hack online involving jumping pins on the computer connector (it said the dealer could do it, but they insisted it would screw up my entire remote entry system - it didnt).

    2. My dad's Samsung cell phone had a button on the outside. It adjusted the ringer volume when the phone was open. When it was closed, it automatically triggered silent mode. It was very easy to hit.

    3. Is it really necessary to require me to push a button or tap the screen for the stupid "warning" about seizures on my DS? Display it with the logo and be done.

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  95. Power steering by Drunkulus · · Score: 0, Troll


    Power steering is the worst feature ever. It makes cars heavier, more expensive, and adds more components that leak and break. And in this era of rampant obesity it would be just as well to spend a little energy turning your steering wheel.

  96. DRM by An.+(Coward) · · Score: 1

    Um... Duh. A "feature" designed to prevent you from using a device you've paid good money for in the way you expect to be able to. Deliberate sabotage on the part of the manufacturer.

  97. Tom Tom bluetooth GPS unit totally disfunctional by blackest_k · · Score: 1

    TomTom don't just make all in one units, you can buy a bluetooth GPS unit and software to pair with your phone/pda but its terrible.

    first of all it has 2 leds and a button that is all.
    1 led is red when discharged amber when charging and off when fully charged.
    the other led lights up solid green when it has a fix and flashes green when successfully paired.

    problem turn the unit on or off with the push button, you don't know is it on is it off. well you may find out if it gets a lock on some satellites 45 seconds or longer much longer if it is off. Is it broken well if its fully charged you may never know it might be fully discharged too.

    The only way you can find out if its on is if it shows up in a bluetooth scan but it will not pair if it doesn't have a satellite lock and to top it off leave it stationary it turns its self off after 10 minutes.

    plus point when it is paired and locked it works well. Its getting it too that state might take an hour or more ...

  98. Vacuum cleaner icon == sucks? by Matt · · Score: 1

    After reading the "Worst Feature ..." article title, when I saw the vacuum cleaner icon, I thought it was most appropriate, if inadvertent.

  99. Blackberry 8700c by mehtajr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Blackberry OS has a lovely feature that tells you when the battery is too low to attempt to make a phone call-- but yet, it can power the backlight, let me read email I've already received, etc. for hours beyond that point.

    I discovered this "feature" at 3 AM, on the side of I-55 in the middle of nowhere in Mississippi, sitting in a rental car with a flat tire.

    Hey guys, when I buy a phone, I want it to be to expend its last bit of battery power WHILE MAKING A PHONE CALL.

    1. Re:Blackberry 8700c by orclevegam · · Score: 1

      when the battery is too low to attempt to make a phone call-- but yet, it can power the backlight, let me read email I've already received, etc. for hours beyond that point.

      I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that transmitting back to the cell tower (particularly someplace far from a tower) was one of the most power intensive things a cell phone does. Not saying it should bar you from making calls of course, although a warning is probably appropriate.

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  100. Several beryl plugins by BlueParrot · · Score: 1

    I think Beryl has a feature that lets you motion blur your terminal. I doubt it gets much worse than that. Thou I admit it was fun to have xpenguins motion blurred at the corner of the cube with semi-transparency. Some of the xfce users almost cried at the sight...

  101. Worse feature ever... by rolando2424 · · Score: 1

    is sperm... I mean, why did our overlords invented it?

    At least we are inventing some pretty awesome things to prevent that feature :D

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  102. Oh this one is easy! by AbRASiON · · Score: 0

    Lotus Notes (and still use it daily.... ugh)

  103. motorola v325 by Tekninja_Hawk · · Score: 0

    My motorola v325 is an extremely QUIET phone. turning any ringer up to full volume, while having the thing in your pocket (with the speaker facing your leg), you can barely hear it in an environment with little noise. its battery doesnt last very long unfortunately, but when the battery is almost dead, the phone becomes EXTREMELY LOUD, beeping louder than any ringer, mp3, sound, etc. that i can put on my phone. I just wonder why the phone cant be that loud to begin with!

  104. Re:Are you sure? by Husgaard · · Score: 1

    Whoever modded the parent redundant is wrong. Nobody has made a comment similar to this in this discussion. Probably a moderation abuse, as "-1, Redundant" often escapes metamoderation because metamoderators don't have time to check the entire discussion to see is a post is really redundant.

    Anyway, this reminds me of the messages you get from most programs when you try to exit. Some programs even come up with an extra "Are you really sure?".

    Lynx has a funny twist on this: If you reply "no" to the prompt, you get a message saying "Excellent!".

  105. Re:Microwave -- battery by Js+Eagle · · Score: 1

    Either that or if they got smart with those, they would add a battery to the clock for when the power goes out...

  106. umm... by gekoscan · · Score: 0

    Vista...

  107. Open button on a DVD player remote by hoppo · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is absolutely pointless to be able to eject a DVD from across the room. You still have to get up and walk over to the device. Unless you are strong with the Force. Then you wouldn't need the remote for anything.

    1. Re:Open button on a DVD player remote by kramulous · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you left Dagobah too early.

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    2. Re:Open button on a DVD player remote by palndrumm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually I really like having the eject button on the remote, especially since most DVD players these days seem to take forever to spit the disc out anyway. With the button only on the player, you're left standing there in front it staring blankly at the 'ejecting' screen on the TV for what seems like 10 minutes waiting for the disc to finally find its way out. If the button's on the remote you can press it and the player can do all its dicking around while you untangle yourself from the couch/girlfriend/cat/etc, find the DVD case, and then walk across the room to grab the disc as it pops out.

    3. Re:Open button on a DVD player remote by JohhnyTHM · · Score: 1

      Unless you have a DVD player that sucks the tray back after 2 seconds whether or not you have grabbed the disc. And then makes you wait 5 more seconds when you hit eject again...

    4. Re:Open button on a DVD player remote by mwburden · · Score: 1

      I use the "Open" button on the DVD remote to mess with the cats' minds when they walk past the entertainment center.

    5. Re:Open button on a DVD player remote by Seq · · Score: 1

      I always picture some sort of Rube Goldberg action occurring when you press 'eject'.

      When my girlfriend offers to switch discs on the DVD player, I often assist with a "Oh! Let me help you with that" thanks to the remote eject. For some reason, she believes I am teasing her, but I'm really just trying to be nice. If you time it for when she presses the unit's button, it negates the actual tray action and simply begins re-reading the disc, which adds another 10-15 seconds to the whole ordeal.

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    6. Re:Open button on a DVD player remote by sjames · · Score: 1

      Going the other direction, I despise electronics that have functions that can ONLY be accessed with the remote. If I could FIND the remote, I wouldn't be standing in front of the thing.

    7. Re:Open button on a DVD player remote by Gigafrost · · Score: 1

      I'm sure it's late enough where many eyes won't see this, but my DVD player doesn't have an open button on the remote and I sure do miss it. My player is in a location where, although I can find the eject button, I still can't really see it if the room is crowded and I can't get on my knees. Fortunately, the "wait forever for it to eject" problem doesn't exist on my player so that makes it not so bad. :)

  108. Blackberry Pearl keypadlock / 911 autodial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My wife and I just got new Blackberry Pearls. Unless you use a holster that has a magnet in the right spot to put the phone to sleep, you have to depend on the keypad lock feature to prevent accidental misdials. Reasonable, but here's the kicker:

    If you lock the keypad, but then bump the trackball (which protrudes the furthest out the front of the phone) a couple times, you get a menu to unlock, make an emergency call, or cancel. If you nudge the ball slightly and push bump it again, you have just dialed 911.

    While it may sound implauseable to do accidently, it is actually quite easy for a 2-year-old to do, twice in 5 minutes our case. When my wife pulled out the phone to show the office how it happened (even though it was "locked") he just said "not another one of those Blackberries, we've been getting swamped by them."

    I called our carrier's tech support to see if there was a way to disable this "feature" or at least change the emergency number to something besides 911. Of course, they had "never heard of this" and could not provide a solution. The best they could suggest is to passcode-protect the phone, which works for everything EXCEPT the emergency calling feature.

    I checked the different Blackberry user forums, and it is a widespread problem. One user even detailed the difficulty in explaining to a police office how her pants pocket made a 911 call all on its own.

    Thanks to this little feature, my wife now has to keep her phone in a holster and on top of the refridgerator when she's not talking on it.

  109. Re:Gortex by Chapium · · Score: 1

    Actually... Goretex is a breathable fabric. If water gets in it can get out. Thats the whole point of it. Otherwise you might as well wear rubber shoes.

  110. Hmmmmm..... by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1

    Microsoft Windows.

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  111. economies of scale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's likely that your model shares some code with a more expensive one that uses the date function.

    1. Re:economies of scale by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      But even then, that more expensive one should offer the basic functionality without setting the time. Only those functions needing it should be affected. Compare it e.g. with a VCR: It's obvious that you can't use the timer to control recordings if you don't set the time. However if you only ever use that VCR to play pre-recorded tapes, or for non-timer controlled recording, there should be no need to set the time to do so.

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  112. I miss my AT cases and power supplies. by pecosdave · · Score: 1

    I don't do a lot of standby. I miss the days when I could hit the power button on a computer and the damn thing turned off. I also miss good cases that could double as a jack stand for my car. I gave one that went from being a 386 all the way to being a 450Mhz AMD K62 to a metal recycling guy a couple of months ago. The immediate power off was great for hang ups. Not to mention I had a situation where a cord got stuck in the CPU fan, I immediately turned it off, unplugged the power from the main board, then turned the power supply back on to spin the now unstuck CPU fan. You can't do that sort of thing now.

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    1. Re:I miss my AT cases and power supplies. by God+Of+Atheism · · Score: 1

      If you set the bios to link the power button to instant-off, you can still get exactly that with ATX cases/motherboards. It might be that some bioses don't allow that (I wouldn't know, mine does allow it and I do have it set that way), though I doubt it.

  113. "Safety Feature" by element-o.p. · · Score: 3, Funny

    My boss has a Mercedes SUV that will not start the engine if the engine computer detects that any of the three brake light bulbs have burned out. Now, there's a good idea -- when you burn out a brake light, you can't even drive to the store to buy a replacement.

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    1. Re:"Safety Feature" by Smight · · Score: 2, Funny

      That sounds especially useful in the case where a roving gang has smashed in your tail lights and is currently surrounding you. Mercedes knows you shouldn't just avoid conflict, but you should talk your problems out and be sure you are calm and clear-headed before you get on the road.

      If Mad Max had driven a Mercedes, the post-apocalyptic future of Australia would have been a much happier place.

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    2. Re:"Safety Feature" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't care going too far from major roads with that ride, that's for sure. Walking distance. Preferably less than one day's hike. :D :D

    3. Re:"Safety Feature" by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      What's the problem with this? If your Mercedes has a bulb burn out, then you just have your personal staff mechanic replace it, or if you're some dirt-poor bastard, send your butler to get a replacement.

  114. Fuse by dino213b · · Score: 3, Funny

    Fuse: a $3 part protecting a $0.01 piece of electronics.

    1. Re:Fuse by MadMidnightBomber · · Score: 1

      Shirely you mean "transistor - $0.01 part protecting $3 fuse" ?

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    2. Re:Fuse by remmelt · · Score: 1

      Obviously, you've never built a tube amp.

      (Transformers are typically $100+, array of tubes about the same price, so we've $300 in hardware right there. The actual caps and resistors cost next to nothing, unless you go the audiophile/voodoo route.)

    3. Re:Fuse by jimicus · · Score: 1

      More likely: A $3 piece of electronics (which is soldered in some awkward place and practically impossible to replace without causing damage) failing in order to protect a $0.05 fuse (which is socketed so it can be replaced easily).

  115. DVD regions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ...enough said.

  116. Holy special case Batman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh, considering the target audience for minivans, families with young children, I'd imagine that the problem you cited is fairly rare. Plus have you considered letting the person you need to drop off ride in the front passenger seat?

    1. Re:Holy special case Batman by compro01 · · Score: 1

      we usually have minimum 4 people in the van, 2 of which usually need to get out at a given time.

      it's not that the feature exists that is the problem. i acknowledge it can be a good feature, but what pisses me off is that there is no way to disable it.

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    2. Re:Holy special case Batman by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      there is no way to disable it.

      I disagree *pulls out box of parts and a soldering iron*

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  117. A few random ones by noidentity · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here are a few I can remember:

    - Cordless phone with backlit display. When you press a button, the display lights for several seconds. So, when press end to hang up, the display lights for several seconds, making you think the phone is still on. My dad always got confused by this, and rightly so. The display even lights when you press an ignored button while the phone is off. "Hey, lighted display even though I'm off!"

    - Electronic version of the De Longhi portable oil-filled space heater. Terrible user-interface with hard-to-press buttons and a button layout that seems more guided by aesthetics than logical arrangement. Lost power to the thing, even for just a second? No heat for you until you re-program it. Give me an electro-mechanical thermostat and power switch any day over this electronic crap.

    - DVD player often refusing to respond to my commands. Oh, wait, that's intentional.

    - Just to contrast, once I got a small programmable electronic outlet timer at a garage sale and had the thing figured out in just a few minutes without a manual. Somehow they managed to pack in something like 14 independent program slots, each able to turn on and off at set times either daily, weekdays only, weekends only, particular day only (separate days for on and off). It only had around 7 buttons (no numeric keypad), yet was logical.

  118. Brown. by crhylove · · Score: 1

    You know, the default brown of Ubuntu. Is that a technical feature?

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  119. Vista Sleep mode by caywen · · Score: 1

    The first feature that makes me want to slap Steve Ballmer silly is the new Sleep mode. It's neither quick nor a power saver. I have 2 laptops, and they both behave exactly the same way. You close the lid, the hard drive grinds for 5 minutes, and eventually it clicks off. Later, you open it up, it grinds again for a few more minutes, and you find out that all the grinding just chewed up 10% of your power. Not to mention it made you wait. I went back to good ol' standby.

  120. You can turn it off by Rufus211 · · Score: 1

    At least on sprint you can disable all the voicemail crap for people calling you. When someone calls me all they get is "Hey, leave a message *beep*". Just call up the voice mail and walk through a bunch of the preferences, it's not too hard to find.

    1. Re:You can turn it off by BroadwayBlue · · Score: 1

      But can you move the "replay message" option (keypad 4) away from "delete message' (keypad 7) which is also next to "return this call" (keypad 8)? I've fat-fingered that mistake too many times.

  121. A bathroom scale by maiden_taiwan · · Score: 1

    Definitely my digital bathroom scale. When you stand on it, the LED lights up with the word "OFF" telling you to get off. Then it goes to zero, and you stand on it a SECOND time to get weighed.

    Uhhh... why not a scale that you stand on once... and it WEIGHS you?!? Too mind-boggling a user interface, I guess.

    And no, I'm not so heavy that the scale WANTS me off. :-)

    1. Re:A bathroom scale by masterhibb · · Score: 1

      My guess would be that it is recalibrating its "zero" weight every time you activate it. In fact, most of the digital bathroom scales I've seen tend to exhibit this sort of behavior.

      Personally, I think of it as sort of an "Are you sure you really want to do this?" pause.

    2. Re:A bathroom scale by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      More like "the system is booting" case. It leaves "stand by" and recallibrates. Otherwise it would keep eating up batteries.
      You don't have to stand on it, just put your leg on top of it for a second.

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    3. Re:A bathroom scale by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      If you don't like it, buy an old-fashioned analog scale. They still sell those, you know.

      It's a digital scale, and it needs batteries. If it stayed on all the time, you'd be replacing batteries every week. That's why you're supposed to tap it before stepping on it. The wait is so it can calibrate ("tare"). If you didn't have the wait time, the scale wouldn't be very accurate, which would negate the reason for buying a digital scale in the first place.

      There's tons of dirt-cheap made-in-China analog scales for $10 or so, which will let you just step on and immediately tell you your weight, accurate to within 10-20 lbs. or so. Maybe you should get one of those.

  122. Shared volume knob by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 1

    It's a little obscure, but back when I was in flight school, I flew a jet that had an audio control header that controlled 6 or 8 audio sources that were piped into my headset and mic. Like a lot of gadgets today, this relied on just a few buttons and ONE knob to control everything...meaning that you had to cycle through some button pushing before the knob would be latched to the particular source whose volume you wanted to change. Let me tell you, a radio that starts blaring suddenly can be far past your eardrums and well into your brain before you can make it through the menu tree and turn it down.

    A related annoyance is my current HP laptop, which has volume buttons that are apparently controlled by Windows. Which means that when I boot up, I can't do a damn thing with the volume until Windows is good and ready to let me. That's just wrong.

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  123. DVD player motors by swordgeek · · Score: 1

    I live in a dusty climate. I've burnt out four DVD players in the last three years. After the last one, I did some research, and discovered that they all share a common feature.

    The motor and lens send back telemetry data to the controller. When they say they're too dirty to read at 100%, the ENTIRE MOTOR ASSEMBLY SHUTS DOWN, rendering the entire DVD player useless.

    If I could find the first marketing slob who thought of this (and then forced the implementation onto an engineer), I would slowly dismember them. Assholes.

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  124. It's not a feature... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a bug!

  125. User Account Control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    now if someone were to integrate Clippy with UAC, I can see a perfect storm of annoyingness.

  126. Even worse on servers ... by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't like brands, i prefer to build clones myself, even for servers.

    For some crappy services, like a small router, or some backup DNS/Mailserver you just pick some cheap motherboard, and most tend to NOT have an option to just boot even when no keyboard is plugged.
    Now it doesn't happend that often, but I used to fix this by using a crafted keyboard DIN or mini-DIN conector with no actual cable or keyboard attached to it.

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    1. Re:Even worse on servers ... by unitron · · Score: 1
      "...but I used to fix this by using a crafted keyboard DIN or mini-DIN conector with no actual cable or keyboard attached to it."

      Crafted? Do you mean a plug with some other electronic parts wired in? If so, what parts wired to which pins?

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    2. Re:Even worse on servers ... by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

      Just a 10k ohm resistor soldered in between ground and +5v

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  127. Lit up clock radios by jimmux · · Score: 1

    Does anybody know where I can buy a clock radio that doesn't bathe the room in light? I find it hard to sleep even when the display is "dimmed". It's amazingly difficult to find a clock radio these days which doesn't produce some source of light.

  128. Mouse "Snap To" by MrBalloonKnot · · Score: 1

    In Windows, you have the option to "Automatically move pointer to the default button in a dialog box." With this wonderful option enabled, your pointer will instantly warp from your control to a dialog box as soon as one appears. Why not move the dialog box to the pointer? Locating dialog boxes on multi-monitor systems is bad enough. Don't yank my pointer away and thow it into a sea of 18,432,000 pixels. Don't bring the dock to the dinghy, bring the dinghy to the dock.

  129. cell phone that dials 911 for you by adrianmonk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A while back, I went to work at a new place, and they gave me a Samsung cell phone. I carried it around in my pocket. One day it rang. I answered, and the person on the other end wanted to know if everything was OK. I was confused and asked them who they were. Turns out they were the 911 (emergency services) operator, and they claimed I'd called them and hung up. I told them I certainly didn't do it on purpose, that I was OK, and that I was sorry for disturbing them.

    Then the same thing happened a few more times, and there were other occasions on which I took the phone out of my pocket and saw a display asking me to confirm whether I wanted to dial 911.

    After several calls to the carrier, I talked to someone who tracked down the problem. Seems that Samsung had put in a feature where if you hold down the "9" button for several seconds, it dials 911. And in their infinite wisdom, they were concerned about what might happen if you had an emergency while key lock was on. So they made it so holding down "9" dials 911 even while key lock is on.

    Thanks, Samsung. I love "features" that might get me fined or imprisoned when someone concludes I'm making repeated prank calls to 911.

    1. Re:cell phone that dials 911 for you by HappyDrgn · · Score: 1

      I have a problem like that on my blackberry. When key lock is on the three options available for selection from the scroll wheel on the side of the phone are:

      [ unlock ]
      [ emergency call ]
      [ cancel ]

      I must have dialed 911 at least a dozen times in the first year I had the phone. I eventually found the option to not lock the phone ever, now I just randomly call people in my address book from my pocket.

  130. Nokia set silent by patp · · Score: 1


    In my old nokia, selecting the silent option was met with a resounding confirmation beep.

  131. Tire Pressure Monitor by EdA · · Score: 1

    My car has wireless tire pressure monitors. They worked fine for the first year+.
    Now they keep firing - only the message says "check tire pressure system". NOT
    a specific TIRE. The tire pressures are fine, in fact, I know a spot of highway
    I can drive by which causes the light to go off.

    When there's a faulty sensor the on board computer does not store any failure code.
    The error has to be happening for them to capture it.

    The dealer has been worse than clueless and has replaced the computer and all of the
    tire pressure sensors (some multiple times). The manufacturer is getting involved now.
    Was supposed to be on a conference call with them yesterday but they never rang. /Ed

    PS: Weeks before the first instance I had rented a car and I unknowingly had run over a
    nail. The tire pressure sensor in that car worked and the console said "check left rear
    tire" and voila, a nail!

  132. Just about every CD/DVD drive ever made by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    WHY is the eject/close button below the tray on pretty well every CD/DVD drive out there? I suppose this is convenient for those who keep their machines overhead. But there's this tiny group of us who keep computers on our desks (or on the floor beside the desk). We find it hard to locate the button once the tray is open. So we resort to shoving the flimsy little tray closed rather than groping around blindly to find the button.

    1. Re:Just about every CD/DVD drive ever made by The_Sledge · · Score: 1

      In my obsolete parts box of goodies at home was an old Pioneer CDROM drive that had a slot-load mechanism similar to that on my car stereo deck. That was a great drive in its day, if the disc was ejected it just sat on the lip waiting to be gently taken away, didn't take much force to push back in, and the eject button was just there.

      Looks like CD/DVD drive manufacture has taken a huge leap backwards as far as loading mechanisms go (or at least, a huge leap towards the cheapest manufacture option instead of better, more intelligent, convenient design).

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    2. Re:Just about every CD/DVD drive ever made by joto · · Score: 1

      I don't get it. If you can shove the tray in, why do you need to look for the eject button? You only need the eject button to eject, right?

  133. Missing ID 10 T File by RandomUsr · · Score: 1

    This one speaks for itself. you would think that Bios manufacturer's would include that file.

  134. So many things by skintigh2 · · Score: 1

    My microwave oven, and many like it, needs to be informed that it is a microwave oven before it will allow me to cook something. If you just walk up to it like some arrogant bastard and start pressing numbers it's like "wtf do you want me to do?" Then I remember that I have to tell it that it is an oven and that it's job is to cook thngs. After that it stops computing Fermat's last theorem or whatever the frak it is that microwaves do when they don't think they are microwaves and allows me to cook my food. That's not completely fair, my current microwave interprets buttons 1-5 as 1-5 minutes but still makes you press "start," while 6-9 and 0 do nothing. The work microwave ignores all numbers until you remind it of it's sole purpose for existing. The one next to it allows you to type in the time and hit start. My previous microwave, which I bought solely for it's interface, interpreted the numbers as minutes and started instantly. Insert meal, press 5, wait, eat. I miss that microwave.

    My spell check just corrected my botched attempt at "interprets" into "interpenetrates."

    My sprint phone had a "hands free" ear piece that had no mic, so you had to hold the phone up to your mouth while using the "hands free" feature. Often I put it in the charger and sat it on my desk in front of my mouth. Convenient. Not so much for car use.

    My Treo 650 blinked all the time to let me know I wasn't roaming. Gotta love that indicator: "Look at me! Look at me! I have nothing to indicate! All is well! Look at meeeeeee!!!"

    If I put a miss-burned CD in my car player it says "error 06" or something and wont let me eject it. I have to turn off and on the car and press eject before it reads the CD.

    I bet I could list 50 things if I thought about it, and give myself an ulcer in the process.

    1. Re:So many things by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      I think I'll never buy a microwave with buttons.
      You put the food in. You turn the dial to "3 minutes" and it starts cooking.
      If you want to finish early, you turn the dial to 0 to make it stop cooking. If you want 2 minutes more, just turn it by 2 minutes more. And it turns slowly down to zero while cooking. No LCD, one "open door" button and one more dial for power, usually set to max. That's some awesomely intuitive interface.

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  135. Volume Buttons by ZooSpeed · · Score: 0

    I'd like to hear from the moron who thought it would would be beneficial to push a "volume+" button twenty times rather than simply turn a volume knob. Most gadgets have had this "feature" since about 1983.

    "Ohh Lance it's SOOOOOO Digital! Duran Duran sounds WAY better now!"

  136. Too many buttons by Pendersempai · · Score: 1

    I had a Microsoft mouse at work that was just covered in buttons. Besides the ordinary two + scroll wheel on the top, it had two on one side and three on the other and the track wheel could be pushed in or pushed to either side horizontally. These extraneous buttons had nearly no resistance to them, so I would push them accidently all the time. Microsoft programmed them to do the most awful things, too. Each movement of my hand would typically send me back a web page, or hide all applications, or turn on some sort of universal access mode for retarded people.

    Also, I am increasingly frustrated with the "Information Bar" in IE that pops up from time to time with a loud "bloop!" to inform you that it blocked a popup or wants to install an ActiveX control or something like that. In the help system, there's a FAQ question called "Can I turn off the information bar?" Never mind the deferential tone that they expect their users to take; their answer is "yes, but you have to turn it off individually for each function. To turn it off when a popup is blocked..." Then they send you through eight layers of preferences for each individual feature. In other words, they recognized a user desire to kill the damn thing but CONSCIOUSLY CHOSE not to let you do it conveniently. And the very worst part? To turn of the ActiveX control function, you have to endure a DIALOG BOX instead, every time. The dialog box has as its default option to allow the ActiveX installation. There is no option for "rip ActiveX out of my machine by its roots and never let it come back," which is ideally what I'd choose.

    In fact, ActiveX is a topic for another three-page rant all by itself, but I'll leave it for another day. I'll also leave the topic of MS Word, except to say that I can't for the life of me understand why when you highlight and delete a paragraph, it applies the style from that paragraph to the one before. I find myself trying to delete the paragraph in such a way that Word won't notice. Microsoft, why do you make me play these games?

  137. Sanyo was (is?) worse by Solandri · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The non-flip Sanyo phones had a keyguard (as all non-flip phones do). However, someone at Sanyo decided that it would be bad if there was an emergency and the person who picked up the phone did not know how to disable the keyguard (maybe they're a kid or non-English speaker). They wouldn't be able to dial 911 on the phone because the keyguard would prevent them from dialing. So they thoughtfully allowed you to dial 911 through the keyguard.

    Of course this meant that as the phone bounced around in your pocket or purse, it would hit random buttons. All of these would be blocked until a 9 was pressed. It would bounce around some more until a 1 was pressed. And so on for the final 1 and 'talk'. So basically the keyguard assured that pressing random keys would always result in a 911 call.

    1. Re:Sanyo was (is?) worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sanyo 4900 brick phone. Happened to me several times.

  138. Sony "Dream Machine" clock radio by trauma · · Score: 1

    Some of you probably remember these cube-shaped clock radios from the 80s. In fairly typical fashion, there's a slide switch on the back to turn the radio and alarm on/off, and a sizeable snooze button up top for easy access in the dark. This is all fine. In an inconceivably stupid move, though, there's another push button called "alarm reset". What this does is turn the alarm off, permanently, until you set it again using the slide switch in the back. And yes, you guessed it, it's right there on top an inch or two from the snooze button where it's almost impossible *not* to hit accidentally from time to time. They might as well have called it the "miss work and get fired" button. Brilliant.

  139. Mototola phone vs. Netscape installer by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 1

    I have a cheapass prepaid cell phone plan, which is fine bause my phone travels with me about twice a year and sits on a shelf otherwise. A few months back AT&T made me trade in my perfectly fine Nokia with the grayscale LCD for a Mororola with a backlit display. To give you a hint about what an absolute piece of shit the Motorola's design is, when you're texting you have to indicate whether something is upper or lower case *after* you type the character. Blurgh. But the worst part is that when the backlit screen (wooo color!) goes off you can't see a damned thing. Stupid.

    The only thing worse that that was a "special" installer an unnamed university gave me to set up my computer with all of the modem settings all configured about 10 years ago. The problem was, the install assumed that you didn't already have Netyscape installed and overwrote your bookmarks. Fucking idiots.

  140. Numeric keypads on cell phones vs keyboards by The_Sledge · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is one of life's great mysteries, I guess. Why on earth are the 1-9 keys on my numeric keypad be completely the flip of the keypad on my telephone?

    The weird part is, I don't know about others, but it has become second nature when using either keypad, without looking, I still know where the digits are.

    (yet another one of life's great mysteries)

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    1. Re:Numeric keypads on cell phones vs keyboards by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      You should try travelling to Asia [or Europe if you live in Asia]

      The PIN keyboards on their ATMs are flipped [same style as a phone].
      This is a fantastic 'weclome to HongKong / BKK / wherever' when you stumble off a plane jetlagged, key in your pin in the same pattern that you usually do, and then the machine eats your card ;)

    2. Re:Numeric keypads on cell phones vs keyboards by raygunz · · Score: 1

      Number keypads were designed for accountants, with 0 at the bottom and increasing with more reach. For an accountant, 0 is obviously supposed to be near 1.

      Phone keypads were a modification of the dial phone, which starts and 1 and goes up to 9, then 0. They felt that ordinary people don't start counting with 0, they start with 1, so that would make more sense. (Ask a child to count, they start with 1. And the Romans didn't even have a way to say 0.) And another aspect of this decision was that the old dials would click once for each position, and starting with 1 made it obvious to map digit 1 to 1 click, digit 2 to 2 clicks, etc, and map digit 0 to 10 clicks, rather than 0 to 1, 1 to 2, etc. You can't map digit 0 to 0 clicks, you'd never know you dialed a 0. So you could only call Romans.

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  141. Modern VCRs by marleythedog · · Score: 1

    I hate these new VCRs that require you to use the arrow buttons to navigate the menus. Ten years ago every VCR I had used the 'press x number for y submenu' approach, and it was a hell of a lot faster to type in the time and channel number when programming the VCR than it is to up/down through a long list of times/channels. I think it is all a scam to inconvenience people into getting DVD recorders/DVRs.

    1. Re:Modern VCRs by joto · · Score: 1

      They still make VCRs? Ok, I guess some people have lots of old tapes. But why do they still make them record? If I bought a VCR today, the only thing I would use it for, was to convert old tapes to a more usable format. Ideally, I would prefer to buy this as a service rather than a device.

  142. No beeper to find remote on appliance base!!! by Rastan_B2 · · Score: 1

    I still, still, _still_ don't understand why cordless phones have had beepers so that you can find them, but appliances such as TVs and DVD players do not! You should be able to go to your TV, press a button and the remote beeps... I just cant fathom why this ISNT standard... 2nd peeve was my old samsung phones predictive text, if you didnt reselect the word straight after you typed it you couldn't reselect it later... I'm never, ever getting another samsung... to many painful memories of a very poor interface...

    1. Re:No beeper to find remote on appliance base!!! by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1

      I recently got a new Buffalo Linkstation NAS drive, and a nice feature is that the web interface to it has a 'Make a noise!' button so you can tell where it is if you lost it.

    2. Re:No beeper to find remote on appliance base!!! by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      I still, still, _still_ don't understand why cordless phones have had beepers so that you can find them, but appliances such as TVs and DVD players do not!

      That one's easy: Cordless phones already have all the hardware needed to make this work: Bidirectional communication (otherwise you couldn't hear the other one talk, and the phone wouldn't know when to ring) and having a way to make loud sound (ringing).

      OTOH, a TV remote is generally just an IR sender. To add the functionality you want would mean:
      (a) The remote would need a radio connection (because it likely will not be in sight and/or direction of the TV when you are seeking for it). I guess setting up a radio connection would be much more expensive than a simple IR LED.
      (b) The remote would have to be equipped with some loudspeaker.
      This would probably make the remote much more expensive (and I guess it also would reduce its battery life very much), for a feature I guess only a minority of all people would ever use (I certainly wouldn't).
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    3. Re:No beeper to find remote on appliance base!!! by icebrain · · Score: 1

      The last pure VCR we bought had that feature... if you turned the VCR on from the button on the front panel, the remote started beeping. It was great, till we realized it would eat through a set of batteries in about a week. After that, we just programmed the universal remote, and kept the original nearby (sans batteries) in case it was needed.

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  143. Oh & not being able to use appliance w.out rem by Rastan_B2 · · Score: 1

    We have a DVD player at home that we cant use because of no remote... the play button doesnt function as a menu button so the DVD just stalls at the menu... sigh... interface people, interface!

  144. Vacuum cleaners by Trogre · · Score: 1

    I've seen vacuum cleaners with 4 PCBs worth of electronics inside, which happily burn out if you don't 'shut down' the lux correctly, say by pulling the plug out of the wall. Yes this is on a vacuum cleaner.

    Oh, but it gets better: The only way to switch it on and off correctly is with a small control panel at the top of the hose, which is apparently where customers wanted it. But rather than run a wire back to the controller boards, no, they decided it would be tidier to go wireless. That's right, a battery-powered remote control to turn on and off your vacuum cleaner.

    And I thought BMW were guilty of over-engineering.

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  145. Re:Casablana ceiling fan remotely dimmable light h by coolgeek · · Score: 1

    Just hold the light button the first time, stop pressing repeatedly.

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  146. Stupid Software by pipingguy · · Score: 1

    I was running the calculation for the required upstream diameters required for laminar flow of 98% oxygen at -230 degrees and 50 psig - this using the Annubar flowmeter vendors' own software - and I decided against straightening vanes because of the cost and trouble associated with fillet welding Monel inside small bore Sch. 10s SS316 (the impingement issue and likely HC trap points). Anyway, I decided to complete the calculation just to evaluate the results, and, as everyone knows, this involves at least 5 minutes of careful data field input. So what happens in the end? The program tells me that the proper spec for this actually calls for 304SS, not 316, and a rounded-edge orifice plate with a beta ration of .659 would be a better choice (assuming sweep-flow, top-insert purges were installed up and downstream). Why the hell couldn't the software have mentioned that in the first place?

    Wait, isn't this the thread for piping designers?

  147. hotkey hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All these are under Windoz, but other OS's have some
    similar stuff too:

    1) There's a power-off key on some Windows keyboards.
          Hit it by accident and it shuts off the machine,
          no confirmation or anything - just powers down!
          Who the HELL thought THAT was a good idea?
          Who turns their computer on/off so frequently that
          they can't bear to go through a menu to shutdown?!!

          I pried off that keycap and taped a shield over the stalk.

    2) On the work laptop (Dell), there's a key combination, I don't
          know what it is, which makes the laptop prepare to undock,
          by powering down - again, no confirmation, just does it.
          Same comments as above - why does this require a shortcut?!

    3) Too many keyboard shortcuts in general - they're getting to
          be like those parked domain web pages with ads on them -
          you can't mistakenly hit any key combination these days
          without it doing _something_, which you then have to figure
          out how to undo. I'm a clumsy typist, this annoys me no end.
          One or two apps' hotkeys are one thing, but when Windows and
          every app all have dozens of them, it gets ridiculous.

          I want a keyboard which filters out all ALT/SHIFT/CTRL key
          combo codes except those I specifically allow, and can show
          me, via USB/SW query, a history of my keystrokes so I can see
          what I typed to cause my machine to go down or whatever.

          Funny how people don't like command lines, but are willing
          to memorize obscure key combinations to speed up use of apps...
          one day somebody will figure out that commands are easier to
          remember than this, and replace all those damned hotkeys
          with "F1-command" - hit F1, cursor goes to a little editbox
          on the bottom of your screen, and type what
          you want to do, at least for seldom-used things. And make
          it so I can search the commands too, and show history so I
          can repeat what I did before (and SEE what I did before so
          I can look it up and figure out how to undo it, if it was
          a mistake).

    4) Sleep mode / hibernate / whatever - I've NEVER seen this
          work right, even on the laptop. Either I can't get it to
          un-hibernate, so I have to just power cycle anyway, or
          it goes to "sleep" but still runs hot (laptop)
          and burns down the battery. Nice idea, worthless reality.

    1. Re:hotkey hell by SharpFang · · Score: 2


      1) There's a power-off key on some Windows keyboards.
                  Hit it by accident and it shuts off the machine,
                  no confirmation or anything - just powers down!

      A friend had a keyboard with non-standard layout.
      There was no gap between PrtScr/ScrollLock/Pause and Ins/Home/PgUp - that block was moved one row up. The room of "Delete/End/PgDn" was occupied by the power buttons. "Power" was in place of "Delete". I switched the computer off three times in some 15 minutes before I learned not to use Delete.

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  148. "Reply to This" vs. "Parent" links by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

    Here's my most annoying Slashdot bug: you know how when you view a single post it has "Reply to This" and "Parent" links at the bottom? That's fine and good. But when you actually do reply to the post, it removes the "Parent" link (which actually would have been useful if you wanted to review stuff farther up the thread) but keeps the "Reply to This" link which is entirely useless because you're already replying to the post! How brain-dead is that?!

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    1. Re:"Reply to This" vs. "Parent" links by searlea · · Score: 1
      Totally agree that that's stupid behaviour, so I've had a look at slashcode to see how to fix it. When all's said and done, it looks like a one-line change in a function called getCommentReply which currently fails to fetch a comments parent-id from the db. This should fix it:

      --- Slash/DB/MySQL/MySQL.pm 2007-05-03 07:47:59.000000000 +0100
      +++ Slash/DB/MySQL/MySQLfix.pm 2007-05-25 15:15:22.312500000 +0100
      @@ -5898,7 +5898,7 @@
                      "date, date AS time, subject,
                      comments.points AS points, comments.tweak AS tweak, pointsorig, tweak_orig,
                      comment_text.comment AS comment, realname, nickname,
      - fakeemail, homepage, comments.cid AS cid, sid,
      + fakeemail, homepage, comments.cid AS cid, sid, comments.pid AS pid, comments.pid AS original_pid,
                      users.uid AS uid, reason, karma_bonus";
              if ($constants->{plugin}{Subscribe} && $constants->{subscribe}) {
                      $select .= ", subscriber_bonus";
  149. Where's my god damned "No to all"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When replacing files in a folder in Windows, or doing any other number of things, you're presented with some message like "Are you sure you want to do X with this file?" And the options are: Yes, Yes to all, No, Cancel. When I want to say "No to all", without cancelling my action for whatever reason, the option doesn't exist. I find myself speed-pressing "No" over and over again.

    1. Re:Where's my god damned "No to all"? by fj3k · · Score: 1

      Buy Vista. The rest of the OS goes to hell, but at least you have a "No to All" button.

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    2. Re:Where's my god damned "No to all"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could just click 'No' on NT/2k or Xp whilst holding down shift.

    3. Re:Where's my god damned "No to all"? by DruggedBunny · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not documented anywhere obvious, but hold Shift while clicking No -- this works as "No to All" on those dialogs. I think my brother found this by accident one day.

  150. Verizon by adolf · · Score: 1

    I cannot speak about other providers, but:

    With my Verizon phone, pressing 6 during any of the preambles will skip to the next step.

    Since discovering this, my voice mail listening sessions have been shortened to:

    1. Press VM hotkey.
    2. Wait for for the welcoming speech to begin.
    3. Interrupt welcome speech by immediately entering passcode.
    4. Interrupt speech detailing my mailbox contents by mashing 6.
    5. Interrupt pedantic lecture detailing the header information for the upcoming voicemail by pressing 6.
    6. Listen to voice mail message.
    7. Press 7 to delete it.
    8. Close flip.

    Takes only about 30 seconds, now. It used to be much worse.

  151. Automatic Seat Belts by unjedai · · Score: 1

    Automatic Seat Belts. These have largely gone the way of the Dodo bird by now, thank goodness, but I still have a Mazda that has them except that they both quit working so now you have to sling the seatbelt over you as you get in the car. When they were working, they'd often hit you as they were going by. Bad idea.

    1. Re:Automatic Seat Belts by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      Automatic Seat Belts.

      Or as I like to call them, "Hat Removers".

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  152. Cannot delete file by dtfinch · · Score: 1

    It is being used by another person or program.

    Close any programs that might be using the file and try again.

  153. Slashdot's anonymous posting function. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The strict limits imposed ostensibly to prevent abuse also prohibit significant positive anonymous contributions.

    1. Re:Slashdot's anonymous posting function. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is about technical, not political features.

  154. Powered CD trays by lennier · · Score: 1

    CD/DVD trays for bootable media which can only be opened when the system power is on are one of the worst misfeatures I've ever seen.

    There you are with your powered-off server which you've just taken a backup of, or your image-ready Windows workstation you've just run SYSPREP on. You have to boot to removable media to do a maintenance function. The system is now in a delicate, fragile state: if you should accidentally boot off the hard drive, the OS will boot up and start auto-configuring itself or setting a security ID or trying to talk to the network or something equally dumb that will break the system state.

    So you go to insert your boot CD and darn, you can't physically at the drive because it's powered! You can only insert the CD once you've turned the system on! For your comfort and convenience!

    So you hit power, hit the CD tray eject button as the BIOS self-test runs, and now you're in a race against time as the CD takes its time to self-test before allowing you to eject, and the BIOS does its self-test, and you hope like heck that you can hit the magic BIOS interrupt key (whichever it is on this model) *at precisely the magic moment* to stop the boot cycle before it kicks into Windows and corrupts the hard drive - because if you have any keys, including the magic BIOS interrupt function key, held down as the self-test runs and not during that magic half-second of grace you'll get the 'Keyboard error press F1...' and then *maybe* you'll be allowed to get into the BIOS and pause the boot cycle...

    And then for some reason the CD tray doesn't respond to your eject, so you press it again, but now you find out it's actually read your tray button push but queued it for after the self-test, so now it's registered two button pushes, so it ejects then immediately retracts, wasting critical seconds as the BIOS counts down to doomsday...

    Meanwhile, on the ancient 1993 box next to it, that's still got a floppy, you just turn it off, slot your boot floppy in with the power off, turn the power on, and you've got a guaranteed secure non-hard-drive boot.

    And let's not forget all those times you've turned off a machine, pulled out all the plugs, tucked it under your arm to take away then realised you left the CD in the drive and now you've got to go plug it in again to eject the media, and either futz around with the keyboard and video cable for five minutes or just plug the power in and take your chances booting blind without a keyboard to enter the magic BIOS override key and just do the race-against-time with the CD tray eject vs BIOS self-test thing. Or let it half-boot and then go down cold during startup and let the filesystem corrupt.

    It's like a mini Russian Roulette, every day! Just to make your life more interesting.

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    1. Re:Powered CD trays by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you need to invest in a paperclip.
      But it does sound like you're having fun with your other 'method'.. ;)

    2. Re:Powered CD trays by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

      ...just to make sure, Archon-X is referring to the emergency eject hole. There's a tiny hole on the front bezel of the CD/DVD drive, about half a centimeter under the tray. Here's the information for IBM Authorised Service Providers: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v 5r3/index.jsp?topic=/rzar5/rzar5ommr.htm Aside from using this to "manually remove Optical media", insiders know you can also use it to "manually insert Optical media".

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    3. Re:Powered CD trays by Jack+Schitt · · Score: 1

      I agree that electronic eject is generally a bad idea, but consider also that a mechanical ejection while the disk is spinning at... say... 52x... will scratch the hell out of the disk when the ejection mechanism lowers the disk onto the tray. I've paperclip-ejected disks while they were spinning in the past. It's not pretty. Though to solve this, the eject button should also apply a break to the spindle and stop the disk dead in its tracks before ejecting.

      Anyway, to solve your race against doomsday scenario, I propose using the button on the keyboard at any point during POST. It will even pause during the memory check. If you're using a non-standard keyboard or a laptop, take the time to locate this button prior to powering on.

      Alternatively, (and I've done this before as well), you can use a paper clip to eject the drive with the power off. Put the disk in the tray and close it about half way. The drive will typically close as soon as power is applied and will detect the disk before POST is complete.

      Lastly, if the case is open and I'm trying to get a disk in the drive without booting the harddrive, (starting with the system turned off) I disconnect the power cable from the harddrive, power on, insert the disk, power off, reconnect, and power back on. Works like a charm.

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    4. Re:Powered CD trays by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      So you hit power, hit the CD tray eject button as the BIOS self-test runs, and now you're in a race against time as the CD takes its time to self-test before allowing you to eject, and the BIOS does its self-test, and you hope like heck that you can hit the magic BIOS interrupt key (whichever it is on this model) *at precisely the magic moment* to stop the boot cycle before it kicks into Windows and corrupts the hard drive - because if you have any keys, including the magic BIOS interrupt function key, held down as the self-test runs and not during that magic half-second of grace you'll get the 'Keyboard error press F1...' and then *maybe* you'll be allowed to get into the BIOS and pause the boot cycle...

      But if your only goal is to halt the boot cycle until you've inserted the CD or DVD (i.e. you don't plan to actually do anything in the bios), shouldn't the "Keyboard error" do exactly what you want? I mean the last time I've gotten that error was on a 286 (I never tried to hold down a key during self-test, though), but at that time it completely halted the booting process until I pressed F1. Which is exactly what you need in that situation. Doesn't it still do that today?
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  155. what an idiot by darkwhite · · Score: 1

    When the phone is not in use the back light is off; if the battery starts to run low, it gives me regular warnings by beeping and turning the back light on! The phone (and every phone I used as well) does this for the specific reason of getting your attention so you recharge it. This is one of the more useful features in cell phones.
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  156. Re:Are you sure? by nog_lorp · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of trying to uninstall "legitimate" spyware like Zango. They would have a series of 5 or so prompts asking "Are you really sure?", followed by redirecting to a webpage where you pressed Ok, followed by more prompts, then several "Surveys", then you would be sent back to another webpage, where you clicked the last uninstall button, and there would be a mysterious error.

  157. Analog is more expensive by instagib · · Score: 1

    Definitely digital controls for almost anything. I can't stand them.

    You're right, and most people don't like them, but the reason ist not stupid design as many may believe, but cost: Today, ICs are cheaper than analog circuits - themselves, and their integration into the product. Also, digital buttons can be made flat, whereas protruding analog knobs require more sophisticated handling and packaging. Finally, digital buttons and their attached IC are trivially adaptable to new functions in an advancing series of a product; panels with analog knobs would have to be redesigned in many cases.

    These are all peanuts obviously, but they sum up to a few bucks, and companies today selling millions of units of the same product are very focused on maximizing their profit. In fact, these companies employ dozens of engineers who do nothing else than trying to squeeze the last cent in terms of design and production cost.

    As a sidenote, the bad user experience with digital controls is most probably worse than it would have to be, because "classic" UI designers think "analog" and "physical". Maybe software UI designers would make a better job there?

  158. Remote controls that require leading zeros by FrenchSilk · · Score: 1

    It is more of a pet peeve than a technology nightmare, but it is the one tech thing that pisses me off the most often. It is obviously not necessary for a remote control to force you to press 007 to change to channel 7. How hard would it be for the code to wait for a couple seconds and if less than three digits were pressed to assume that was the user's intention? It should have been done right in the cable box or TV changer code, but if it wasn't, there is no reason that the remote control couldn't have been programmed to compensate for the stupidity or laziness of the TV or cable box programmer and add the leading zeros. Maybe it is because I know that there was no excuse for the bad design or sloppy code that it irritates me so much.

    1. Re:Remote controls that require leading zeros by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      yep... and I need to type 001 if I want to change to 1, 099 to change to 99, 100 to change to 100, and... 101 doesn't exist, there's only 100 channels.

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  159. Turn it off by funkdancer · · Score: 1

    Not that it has this feature, but when not cooking something I turn mine off at the wall to reduce the (Aussie coal powered) electricity usage. Having a Linux server and router+switch powered 24/7 one has to make certain sacrifices.

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  160. The Entirety of the Palm Treo 700W by ursuspacificus · · Score: 1

    Piece. Of. Shit.

    Dung.

    Feces.

    Excrement.

    My Palm IIIxe was FAR more responsive w/8MB and a crummy little CPU than this stupid thing is w/32MB (or whatever it has).

    Look! In my hand! It's a PDA! It's a phone! It's a hot, loose, steaming dog turd.

    The only time the ringer is loud enough to hear is when I should have put it on "silent" mode but forgot.

    The only time I seem to get calls is when I put it in "silent" mode and forgot to switch it back.

    It has no "reminder" tones... like the phone rang while you were in the can, and your phone was at your desk... no one else was around (or like you enough to tell you your phone rang)... unless you think to check your phone, you'll never know you missed a call.

    If the phone DOES ring, and I can sense that it's ringing (usually through telepathy), and try to answer it.. I hit the "Send" button... and ... uh... did it take?... hit it ag..oh, shit... I just hung up the call and dialed my mother. End end end end... well... whadaya know... I just turned off the modem.

    Bluetooth? Oh, yes. It has bluetooth.. uh... you want it to remember all your bluetooth setting after the battery dies?... yeah... not so much...

    I really think the "Camera Phone" idea is essentially foolish. If you want a picture of something, you want a picture of something that is not permanently obscured by pocket lint and finger grease... momentarily disregarding that.... Something is happening. I want to take a picture. I press the "End" button to turn it on (?!), wait a second then the middle-cursor button to disengage the key-lock... then a second later, I can press the "windows" key... and it takes a second to render the stupid Start menu... down down down down down... pictures. That takes a solid 45 seconds to come up and respond. Push the soft button marked "Camera". Wait another 25 seconds for the damned "viewfinder" image to come up... press the center cursor button again. About 2 seconds later, the Treo figures out that I wanted to take a picture, and captures the CCD. Now if you're hoping to catch baby's first steps, this is not the way to go. George Lucas could write, finance, cast, storyboard, shoot, edit, post-produce, score, merchandise, advertise, distribute and make a half-trillion dollars off an epic trilogy of films about your baby's "learning to crawl before learning to walk" adventure, working in cute, plucky comic-relief characters, mind-puree-ing space-battle sequences, inane dialog, ancient mysticism and strict adherence to Campbell Monomyth before the Treo will be ready to take a damned picture.

    The one thing I actually WANTED the Treo for was so I could get PuTTY or something similar on there and do emergency Linux SysAdminny things from out there in the world, if I had to... problem is that the keyboard on the Treo lacks an easy way to input characters like \,|, and so on... oh, and there's no CTRL key... and no ALT key... So, uh... OH, and... nevermind...

    Bottom Line: The Palm Treo is a lousy phone, an awful PDA, a dismal handheld computer, and a positively shitty camera.

    Y'know what it's really good at, though? Sinking in salt water.
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  161. eject the freakin cd by darkwhite · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The default Linux behavior of locking the CD tray and refusing to eject when I press a button. On some devices, the lock stays in place even after a soft reboot, forcing a power cycle.

    I don't give a damn if the FS driver will throw a hissy fit or the system will panic. It's read-only media, you'll eject it when I press the button or I'll eject it for you with a paperclip and get the sudden urge to crash some developers' skulls.

    I honestly can't name a single design decision in a modern Linux system that is worse than that misfeature.

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    1. Re:eject the freakin cd by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1

      Never get an Apple Mac!

    2. Re:eject the freakin cd by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      As an old Mac user, I do want all my removable media to eject via software... but I want the eject button on the drive to tell the OS to unmount and eject the disc. Somehow Windows manages to get this right; Linux and Mac OS X do not.

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    3. Re:eject the freakin cd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Odd; that works for me (Debian 4.0). Just now stuck in a CD, watched the icon show up, browsed, closed the browser window, and hit eject on the drive. Out it popped.

    4. Re:eject the freakin cd by darkwhite · · Score: 1

      That's because you're using a hal-based automounting system, which has replaced old-fashioned mounting on modern Linux systems. If you mount it manually, the kernel will lock the drive.

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  162. Fucking IE7 by zobier · · Score: 1

    I'm on annother computer temporarily (training), no FF. The tab handelling is crap, ads everywhere, no select -> right click -> search Google for ..., no re-open recently closed tabs, no spell check and it randomly flakes out and stops working properly; grr! >:(

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  163. Re:Are you sure? by EvanED · · Score: 1

    Whoever modded the parent redundant is wrong. Nobody has made a comment similar to this in this discussion.

    You mean, except for phalse phace saying "Cancel or Allow" at 4:27, Leroy Brown saying Vista itself at 4:50, flyingfsck saying all versions of Windows at 5:19? (For the record, the post in question was at 5:31, which means that a post saying specifically Windows Vista was posted over 40 minutes before.)

  164. Re:Microwave -- battery by weighn · · Score: 1

    Either that or if they got smart with those, they would add a battery to the clock for when the power goes out... or just power the microwave via a UPS, same difference
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  165. OT: Re:PC Load Letter by nigelo · · Score: 1

    OT:
    I have a 4+ too, and found a use for three sticks of 16MB of EDO memory from the K6-2 I was keeping.

    The printer now has 52MB memory, and prints pretty much anything I've tried without skipping a beat, even with duplexing turned on - it used to stall on complex graphics when it only had 4MB...

    It's pretty picky on which memory it will use, though - several 4 and 8MB cards were ignored or gave a console error on power-up.

    I told you it was OT.

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  166. Pioneer MP3 Car Audio by nigelo · · Score: 1

    I have a Pioneer Head Unit that plays MP3s off CD-Rs that has six buttons - not in a row, though, plus a four way rocker button.
    All the buttons are modal, and also can be held for a 2-second-ish duration to get a different function.

    The rocker button behaves differently depending on which button mode you are in.

    There are a *lot* of settings to play with on this device, but the UI means they are not optimal 99% of the time.

    Why they didn't just go with simple point-and-shoot menus using not much more than the rocker button, I cannot understand.

    The manual is probably 100 pages long, and the unit is useless without it, and not much use with it. Grrrr.

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  167. Great Zombie ... Firefox by fj3k · · Score: 1

    How 'bout this... I'm here reading about all these 'features', and another page I was on spawned a pop-up, which due to the settings I have opened in a new tab. The pop-up resizes my Firefox window, and disabled every function of the browser except creating and closing empty tabs, and scrolling (but only by the little knob thing on the scrollbar, the up-down buttons didn't work, nor the keyboard shortcuts). Apparently Firefox thought it had died long before this, because when I restored my session all the tabs I had closed when playing around with the paralysed browser (trying to revive it) were opened again. Thankfully this didn't include the pop-up, though.

    In summary the most annoying feature of any product is Microsoft Office's insistence that no matter what I say, I should spell my words the American way; without the colour, flavour, honour, and organisation of Australian English. I could very much do without all the extra labour required by constantly being the saviour of other people's spelling when they don't check the lies the Microsoft spell checker is telling them. Especially since the new version of Word takes forever to load the language box, and at best setting the default will only buy one or two correct new documents before it changes the default back again. Why, Microsoft? Why? Apart from taking every available opportunity to insult you and actively trying to move people to Linux, what have I ever done to you? --- Beware of the seductive semicolon; it only means your sentences harm.

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    1. Re:Great Zombie ... Firefox by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      MS Outlook autocorrection. It tends to change some perfectly correct syntax (in Polish) to total randomness. ("I want to test" to "I want protest"?) and disabling this "feature" requires:
      - start Outlook.
      - "New message"
      In the New message window type a few letters in the message body
      - Tools->Autocorrection (before you have typed anything in the message body, it's ghosted out)
      - uncheck about 40 different checkboxes.
      - OK
      - [x], [don't save]

      The part that the option is nowhere to be found in the main application options, only in the 'compose message' window, and that you need to start typing to unghost the menu option... pinnacle of intuitiveness.

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    2. Re:Great Zombie ... Firefox by Yer+Mom · · Score: 2, Informative

      How 'bout this... I'm here reading about all these 'features', and another page I was on spawned a pop-up, which due to the settings I have opened in a new tab. The pop-up resizes my Firefox window, and disabled every function of the browser except creating and closing empty tabs, and scrolling (but only by the little knob thing on the scrollbar, the up-down buttons didn't work, nor the keyboard shortcuts)

      Go to about:config. Type "dom" into the search box. You can disable all that resizing and button-removing guff from there.

      Not so good if there are times when you want those features on, of course...

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  168. Macintosh Quadra/Centris 610 power button by Dwebb · · Score: 1

    The Macintosh Quadra/Centris 610 power button is located on the front of the unit below the floppy disk drive, where a non-Mac user would expect to find the eject button. To add insult to injury, it was a hard power button, which shut down the computer abruptly when pressed.

    Picture of Quadra 610

  169. What about... by twinberettas · · Score: 1

    Blu-Ray cases. Smaller than a DVD case... Bigger than a CD case... With a stupid see-through bit at the top demonstrating that the space is indeed wasted... Why aren't they the same size and shape as DVD cases, or CD cases? Agh!

  170. "Feature" or Feature? by Zadaz · · Score: 1

    Let's see...

    I had a (land line) phone once that would only let you dial 11 numbers.
    Great for making general phone calls. Less great for calling someone with an extension, someone in another country or navigating a voice mail system or phone tree.

    My current mobile phone opens in a regular flip phone mode, and a landscape mode with a full keyboard.

    But you can't use the web browser in landscape mode (entering urls or forms is murder). Nor can you enter address book information that way. Switching between modes cancels whatever you were doing.

    Oh, and if you have the phone open in landscape mode and are receiving a call you can do one of three things:
    1) Hit the answer button and talk on speaker phone.
    2) Switch to portrait mode which hangs up on the call.
    3) Let it go to voice mail.

    If you close the phone while it is doing one of its "I'm doing something" animations, it will pause the animiation until you open the phone again. Because man I need to see that flying envelope. Which isn't really that awful, except it also keeps the backlight on. On the screen that's inside the flip. draining your battery for no real reason.

    You also can't set it to ring silently without scrolling through all of the available ring volumes. So there's no way to mute the phone without being incredibly annoying. No I keep it on vibrate at all times and keep it in a rocks glass when I want to hear it ring.

    Completely aside, I wish American phones had "Manner Mode" buttons that are on virtually all Japanese phone. It's an external dedicated button that switches your phone between two ring profiles. (usually ring and vibe). Though it's likely that no one would use the button here.

  171. Ok, it's Porsche content, not computer content... by djmcmath · · Score: 1

    Porsche's got some great technical ideas. For "the greatest engineers on earth," they've sure done some doozy's. Here's a short list:

    Oil Lines on the outside of the body, down where you would ordinarily feel free to position a jack. I know that this has a lot to do with the original 2-liter engine cooling itself adequately with a fan, but of all the places they could have decided to put the most important artery of the car, this seems to have been the worst possible choice. Similarly, an oil cooler under the bumper, right out in front, is also a little peculiar, given the tendency of all nations on the planet to bound their roads with raised, concrete curbs.

    No apparent jack stand points -- if you manage to get the car raised up without pinching a $500 piece of pipe, it's often anybody's guess where it's best to place the stands that are going to hold the thing up there. Considering that these cars were made to be worked on by their driver/owners (at least in the early days), you'd think a clearly indicated hoisting point would be in order.

    Poor line of sight for speedometer, etc. Sure, I love the big, easy-to-read tach. But what other mass production car requires you to twist the gauges to crazy angles in order to see when you're driving anywhere in the neighborhood of the speed limit?

    One idiot light does double duty as the parking brake indicator and oil pressure failure warning. I don't know how many models this is the case in, but jeez... The difference between one of these situations and the other is pretty significant.

    Webasto gasoline-fueled heater, right next to the fuel tank. Okay, where do we put the (potential) molotov cocktail we've designed as a supplementary heater? How about next to 15 gallons of explosive fuel, which is up front, at bumper level, where head-on collisions are most likely to happen? I don't know of any problems resulting from this, ever, but it was a gutsy idea for the Weissach engineers to even think up.

    Counter-intuitive climate control sliders. No other way to describe them. Top one is for fresh air blown in from under the windshield. Next one is, er... sometimes I can remember, and get it to work. Usually not. But three levers on the dash, and two more down between the seats? That was the plan? Turning on the defrost requires sliding at least four of them.

    The 915 transaxle. Nuff said, right? I mean it's not exactly durable, and it's not exactly smooth. Sure, it's an old design, but I've had early-seventies Japanese cars that shifted a lot like late nineties Japanese cars. Transmissions have been around as long as there have been cars. What is so hard to figure out?

    A heating system that can kill you if your exhaust is leaking, or can choke you if your engine leaks oil. It's another one of those moves necessitated by the lack of water cooling, I guess. And it almost makes you think changing coolant isn't such a bad idea. It's an idea that mixes the one clearly toxic byproduct of the car with the one part that sends stuff right into our lungs. It works fine, as a rule -- but again, who came up with the initial idea?

    Thermal reactors heating up an air-cooled magnesium engine case. I know, it had to be done if they were going to sell cars in the U.S. But the longstanding reputation of the car for reliability and durability was undone by three model years of cars with engines that would cook themselves to death.

    Torsion bars - a radical idea, in its day. But not the best idea, ever, or even the best idea for the 911.

    A dipstick that easily falls into the oil tank. Happens a lot. Some cars had a screen to prevent it. But when you combine the fact that every component of the oil-checking process is counter-intuitive and at odds with virtually every other car ever manufactured and a dash-based oil level gauge that is hardly ever useful when you're sitting in front of the dash, since you've got to stop, on a level surface, once the car has warmed up to 190 degrees, in order to use it. And even then the rule of thum

  172. A4 paper vs letter paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure about vista, but this is true up to XP.

    When i install windowsXp on a pc, it gives me the option of changing my location. Since i live in South Africa, i choose that. it then automatically sets my date layout, currency, sets my measures to metric etc.

    But why oh why do my printers still default to Letter when i install them?

    Surely they could default to A4? Letter paper is not even sold in this country. EVERYONE uses A4 here as their paper size for general purpose printing. Can this not be set automatically?

  173. The Japanese ones are easier to open by CamoCoatJoe · · Score: 1

    I had a little electric razor from Japan, and after cutting the plastic off of it (out of habit), I noticed the easy to open snaps. The US makes cool stuff, and the Japanese make it better.

    (I might have wanted to move there, if it wasn't for the language barrier and their water-spray toilets. Who came up with that one?)

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  174. Motorola. snap by leenoble_uk · · Score: 1

    My gf has sworn off of Motorola phones for this same reason. She's had two now and both were exactly the same as you describe. Every 5 minutes they'd go off on one like the electronic equivalent of jumping up and down frantically waving your arms and shouting at the top of your voice "I'm running out of energy!! I'm running out of energy!!"
    My Sony Ericsson tells you once, tells you again an hour later and then dies.
    It seems there should also be some attention paid to the time of day. No point beeping away and flashing in the middle of the night for most people (user defined settings if you want to change it I suppose). Perhaps it should even only bother to tell you next time you try to interact with the device.
    It iPhone probably has something like that.

  175. Not one I've used, but one I've witnessed by syukton · · Score: 1

    A lot of cars out there these days have daytime running lights or even full-on headlights that come on when you start the car. The problem with this is that none of the other lights come on; just the headlights. When I drive at night, I generally see 1-2 drivers with their headlights--and no other lights--on.

    That is easily among the worst features invented. I mean, really, how hard is it to make all of the lights come on? I bet it actually costs MORE to wire up just the headlights to come on automatically, than it would cost to make all of them come on automatically.

    Before anyone complains about lights robbing power from the powertrain, indicator lamps are usually 3-5 watts, brake lights maybe 10 watts, headlamps 50-100 watts each. So with four side indicators, two front indicators, two rear indicators, two brake lights, and two headlamps, you're looking at a power draw of 160-260 watts, or a little over 1/3 horsepower tops. The alternator is producing more than that much energy as a surplus already...

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  176. Alarm Clock backlight by Sobrique · · Score: 1
    I had an alarm clock with an electro luminescent backlight once. It was one of those 'radio set ones'. However when the battery got a bit low, when the alarm went off, the additional power consumption was enough to get it to 'reset'. So obviously, not sound the alarm at all.

    And reset the time again, whilst I was out, making it un-obvious what the hell happened.

  177. Yes, but it says "not found"... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    Sure, a CPU can have a faulty cache/FPU/whatever and still make it to the BIOS screen but the message says "CPU not found"!

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  178. Non-invulnerable Plastic Packaging by aadvancedGIR · · Score: 1

    This week, I bought an USB key. The thing was packaged in an easy to tear plastic/paper casing, put in a hard plastic security box by the shop that happens to have two relatively small holes, but since the key was even smaller, I could have easily popped it out in a couple of seconds with my bare fingers, but being honest, I let the clerk struggle to open the box the regular way, in 30s with a lot of pain and curse words.

  179. Picasa's password feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Last I checked, if you password-protect a folder in Picasa, images from that folder are never displayed in search results, even if the folder is open/unlocked. This defeats the purpose of using Picasa in the first place.

    Also, IIRC if you leave a passworded folder open when exiting, it'll still be open the next time you launch the program, no password asked.

  180. Sony S0505i cellphone by mattr · · Score: 1

    This phone never really closes; the display with the mail,imode,offhook and joystick key grouping are always facing outwards though the rest of the kepad swivels out.

    Well, it calls people from my pocket apparently and sometimes that is the last person I called, but now late at night which causes angry phone calls back to me. For some reason that person doesn't hang up, saying "I heard everything" whatever it was they heard. Once I was at a part and the guy next to me slammed into it and my coworker thought I was having a raucous time. And if they don't hang up ("I just heard walking all the time") then I wonder how much money that is costing me. Finally, the button that is used like a mouse button to select things seems to have halfway broken due to the stress.. it only works when you swivel the phone OPEN now, as if there was a difference with this stupid phone! (Oh yeah and the CCD died). Only neat thing is the hologram logo and sparkly pearl paint like a girl's fingernails. Time to move on.. but it's only a year or two old!

  181. Take your pick by ErroneousBee · · Score: 1

    bad designs

    But my personal ones are:

    • Local cycle path where they installed gates across it. Now removed, thankfully.
    • Bracknell (UK) cyclepath terminated 10 meters before a very busy roundabout. A couple of fatalities every year on that one.
    • Any non-standard component or interfaces, particularly lithium batteries and the almost infinite variety of power jacks on mobile phones.
    • The human body. Why is it so weak and fragile, and whats with all this hair? I swear, the designer was either incompetent or just making stuff up as he went along.
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  182. msWord spell checker .. by rs232 · · Score: 1

    You click on spellcheck and it pops up over the word you are trying to spellcheck. You have to move the box to see the word. You have to do this every time.

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  183. beep.sys in Windows by cshay · · Score: 1

    Does anyone really *want* a system beep anymore these days?? It's a real hassle to disable it.

  184. Free Video Editing Software by seanellis · · Score: 1

    I bought a Panasonic camcorder back in the day when I had a Windows PC, and installed the video editing software that came with it. It had all the usual crap - non-standard buttons, "cool" non-rectangular windows, menus that weren't where they were supposed to be, etc.

    But the worst bit was that the video time bar was under the video window and was consequently about 300 pixels long. The most common thing to do was to snarf in a whole tape of video (1 hour) and then chop it up. But at 300 pixels, a 1 pixel change is 30 seconds of video. And the only other controls were play/stop/pause and single frame forward/back.

    Yes, that's right. To change your cut point you had two choices: forward/back by 30 seconds, or forward/back by 1/25 second. God forbid your kid ever did anything interesting starting at 15 or 45 seconds past the minute...

  185. HTC wizard catch 22 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My award for 'What *were* you thinking?!' goes to the HTC Wizard. For the uninitiated, the HTC Wizard is a smartphone with a whacking great big screen and backlight, and with smartphones being what they are the battery drains in a day or two, maybe less, with heavy use.

    HTC's stroke of genius concerned how to charge the phone: to charge the battery, the phone must be switched on. Spot the design flaw? Yep, let your battery level get too low and you can never switch the unit on to charge it again! Result: one trip to the shops to buy a new battery..

  186. BMW Security by Evets · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So a few years ago, I bought a BMW 530. My wife took it to the mall for the first time with my daughter who was about 6 months old. Upon returning to the car, she put my daughter in her car seat, and in doing so tossed the keys into the driver seat. She closed the door, walked around, and lo and behold, the BMW had locked itself up before she got to the drivers door.

    The AAA locksmith shows up some time later, my daughter stuck inside a VERY hot automobile. They have no idea how to get in. So they used one of those airbag things to split open the driver door to stick a coat hanger or something inside the car to get it unlocked.

    I have to call the dealership and ask where the unlock button is.

    After I find out where it is and relay that to my now very panicked wife who fills in the locksmith, we come to find out that the car has detected a break-in and disabled the unlock button.

    All the while we are yelling at them to just take a hammer to the window to break in. Apparently the damn car has some sort of unbreakable glass.

    I finally get through to BMW's version of on-star and guess what - they can't unlock the car via satelite. As it turns out, the only thing BMW on-star is good for is asking for driving directions (there's a GPS in the car) and reserving movie tickets.

    In the end, after consulting with the dealer again, I have to tell the now on-scene fire department that they CAN break the glass on the short split section of the passenger side rear window - apparently a feature designed just for these situations. Of course, that's exactly where my daughter is sitting, but thank goodness we had window shades that were drawn up.

    So my wife brings my 1 day old car home that I haven't driven yet and it takes 6 weeks to get a new window. Of course, when the 6 weeks comes up and I discover they haven't ordered the window yet, they are all of a sudden in abundance and it only takes 24 hours.

    So... pointless/counter-productive/bizarre features?
    1) auto-locking doors
    2) overly extravagent security
    3) satellite communications link for directions in a car with a GPS
    4) a window designed to be broken

    Of course I haven't even mentioned
    5) voice command (more distracting than buttons)
    6) GPS Volume button is the radio button. You have to adjust the volume WHILE the GPS lady is giving you directions.
    7) A radio that mysteriously reboots.
    8) An integrated car management system that disables radio, air conditioning, and navigation when it doesn't boot properly.
    9) A flat tire sensor that has presented at least a dozen false alarms and has never actually detected a flat tire.

    1. Re:BMW Security by Ihlosi · · Score: 1
      1) auto-locking doors



      That's an American thing. I managed to lock myself out of various cars on a regular basis while studying over there, until I managed to memorize the conditions under which the doors would auto-lock. Apparently, in the US you're much more likely to get carjacked than be in need of being pulled out of your possibly burning vehicle after an accident.



      2) overly extravagent security



      Another American thing.



      3) satellite communications link for directions in a car with a GPS



      Have you ever seen what happens when a technologically challenged person tries operating a navigation system ? It's not pretty. And there's more of them out there than you'd imagine.



      4) a window designed to be broken



      That is, in fact, a safety thing. The rear window of the car should be made of the same type of glass (it shatters into tiny fragments that aren't as sharp as "real" glass shards). This feature saved an unfortunate moped driver from breaking his skull on the rear window of my car, which he managed to hit in broad daylight while it was parked on the side of the road. It's also good for getting out (or getting someone out) of the car when the thing's too deformed to allow the doors to open.

    2. Re:BMW Security by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Did they not have something called iDrive? a huge wheel between the passenger and driver' seat that controlled everything and you have to go through menus about trip odometer and oil change and GPS to change the damn radio station? Or am I confusing BMW with some other model/make?

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    3. Re:BMW Security by InsMonkey · · Score: 1

      You left your daughter cooking in your hot car while you ran around in circles trying to figure this out? Break a window!

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    4. Re:BMW Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You left your daughter cooking in your hot car while you ran around in circles trying to figure this out? Break a window!

      All the while we are yelling at them to just take a hammer to the window to break in. Apparently the damn car has some sort of unbreakable glass. Read much?
    5. Re:BMW Security by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Do you not have crime (like auto thefts) in whatever part of the world you're from?

      Crime is a big problem in the US, and it's getting worse. Unfortunately, there's too many liberals in power who want us to give the criminals whatever they want because somehow it's not their fault they're committing the crime, and so we're not really allowed to protect ourselves. By contrast, in South Africa, carjacking is (was?) also a big problem. However, in response, people have been installing flame-throwers on their vehicles to fry the carjackers with the push of a button. I wonder if carjacking is as big a problem there now that this device has been on the market for a while.

    6. Re:BMW Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RE point #9: A lot of BMWs now have run-flat tyres, so you may actually have a flat tyre!

  187. The worst clock radio ever by simong · · Score: 1

    the Ferguson CR150D. It's meant to be a bedroom alarm but has a bright blue display light that cannot be dimmed and is bright to enough read by in the dark. In fact it's probably bright enough to be seen from space. The alarm is also spectacularily unfriendly: the volume can be set to quiet at night but in the morning it comes on and then automatically gets louder and LOUDER to a point just above comfortable. This too cannot be turned off. It got replaced by a £30 DAB/FM alarm that does what it's told. I just couldn't believe that a piece of electronics that is designed to do a specific job was so badly designed.

  188. getting called while playing with phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I'm called while I'm playing with my phone(6230i), trying to set something in the menu, writing sms, anything really, it will immediately pick up or reject the phone call if I happen to press the wrong button. It has happened to me several times that I accidentally reject a phone call like this, really annoying.. the obvious fix would be to have a delay of 1/2 second before you can reject or pick up a call.

  189. RealPlayer by ypps · · Score: 1

    The RealPlayer application for Windows, ca 2000-2001. But that is not my personal opinion - it is an indisputable fact. Personally I would have to say some early version of Windows or Gnome.

  190. Yepp - Samsung by fattybob · · Score: 1

    I had a yepp mp3 player (some years back) that would drain the batteries whether it was on or off, about 8 hrs life coudl be expected in the off position - solution, take out one of the batteries when not using.

    A simple smiwtch woudl haev been easier and probably seen me using it more than I did - anyone want to buy it? Oh yes, updating its music took ages too!

  191. Touchpad by stronger · · Score: 1

    Seriously, I hate touchpads. The touchpad era in notebooks started many years ago, but I still remember what an excellent pointing device trackball was. I tried many notebooks, IBMs, Dells, Asus and Apple among them and find that none of them has touchpad useful enough for me. It is because touchpads start to react on (surprise, surprise) touch. It wouldn't be that bad, but they also react on pull-off. Why don't I set touch pad sensitivity to small number? Because I don't like it this way either.
    Trackballs react only on move, you can touch and off the ball as much as you want and the pointer will stand still. Until you roll.
    I'd really love to see Powerbook 140-like trackball in new Dells.

  192. Power / Sleep / Wake Up Keys by mgiuca · · Score: 1

    The worst feature I've seen is the Power, Sleep and Wake Up keys sitting comfortably in the corner of many keyboards (though they thankfully seem to be out of fashion now). When do you ever need to shut down your computer in such a hurry that a single keystroke is necessary over a simple sequence to shut down or sleep?

    Having the entire computer turn itself off (or go to sleep, which can be just as bad depending on your applications) with no confirmation is a really bad idea. I'll never forget the time I was doing a live performance involving a projected computer image, and someone accidentally hit the Power key...

    1. Re:Power / Sleep / Wake Up Keys by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

      What is better is when your 1 yr old daughter discovers that the "power" button is also the "learn a new curse word from mama" button. My wife insisted we buy a new keyboard with as few extraneous keys as possible.

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  193. Not Worst, But Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I like the LED on my UPS that tells me the power in my home is off.

    You don't say!

  194. More phone stupidity by DaveDerrick · · Score: 1

    On my phone, if I miss a call then my answer service calls me back immediately to tell me I have a missed call. Does it expect me to answer this one, when I missed the last call ????

  195. HSBC cheque paying in machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The new HSBC cheque paying in machines - and that is their sole purpose - have an interstitial screen towards the end of the process asking the question - "Do you want to pay these cheques in?".

    Retarded.

    Using a mac with two screens is an exercise in frustration.

    iPod's crummy interface?

    I agree with the OP about the 6230. I now have a 6233, and if you set your alarm, turn out the lights, etc. 2 minutes later the room lights up as the screensaver kicks in. Even if it is a blank screen.

    Sending an sms on a series 60 phone must rank up there in terms of overcomplicating something.

    My parents used to have a Philips mobile phone that had the worst interface I have ever seen on anything.

  196. Motorola phones - of course by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1

    I once had to use a Motorola tri-band phone when I went to the US on a trip.

    When you turned the phone on, it would do about a second of vibrate to let you know it had turned on. Apparently the screen display wasn't sufficient.

    This is MIND-NUMBINGLY stupid, because if you're running low on battery and you turn off the phone to conserve power until you need to make a call, the vibrate drains the battery when you turn it on.

    In fact, I have one of those wind-up chargers that give you about 5 minutes of phone time in emergencies. I tried it on the Motorola phone - the phone turned on, vibrated (thus killing the battery) and then said "No Battery" and turned itself off. Fantastic.

    And let's not forget that I couldn't even work out how to set the time on the phone when I arrived in the US. I had to consult a colleague who owned a Motorola phone and 'knew the trick' (it's on a hidden or 'extended' menu or something).

  197. CDRom tray button location by crivens · · Score: 1

    The absolute answer must be the open/close button on CDRom drives in PCs. Which idiot thought to put the button UNDERNEATH the tray, so that when it's open I can't find it. More so when the CDRom is located near the bottom of the PC on the floor, so I have to crawl on the floor to open/close it!

    Hey dumbo, ever hear of usability? You work for Microsoft????

    That bugs me....

    1. Re:CDRom tray button location by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Well, my DVD drive actually closes if you press against the front (i.e. do the same you would do to manually close it). Which I consider a pretty good and intuitive interface. When closed, the open/close button isn't really hard to reach.

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  198. Audiovox Smartphone keeps calling 911 by Rurik · · Score: 1

    My Audiovox SMT5600, running Windows, would constantly call 911. I could never figure out how, but at least 3 times a month it would call 911 while it was in my pocket. I finally figured out that the phone was set to use "08" as an emergency number (which seems to be in use in Saudi Arabia and New Zealand). Since the two buttons are next to each other, they were constantly being pushed. I ended up using a registry editor to remove the number from the list of valid emergency numbers.

  199. Motorola Razr by matt328 · · Score: 1

    Where to begin? Right off the bat they misspelled razor. Now for the serious ones. First of all when the battery is low, the phone beeps/vibrates like crazy, screaming for help, and killing itself in the process.

    Next, if you want to silence the phone quickly with it still closed, you have to push and hold the volume down button on the outside for like 3 seconds. That will take you into volume style mode, then you press a second button to cycle through the modes. Finally to lock in your choice you press the volume down button again. Also I should note plugging the phone into the charger nullifies all the hard work you've just done and puts the phone in the loudest possible mode. A lot more of a pain in the ass than my old LG phone where I could reach in my pocket, hold the volume down button for a few seconds and it would give a short vibrate to let you know its in vibrate mode.

    Also there seems to be a mystery button on the right outside of the phone that doesn't really do anything besides beep when you press it.

    Finally, god forbid you miss a call, the phone beeps and vibrates relentlessly until you go in like 3 menu layers deep and 'dismiss' the call.

    Incidentally none of these behaviors are customizeable at all.

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  200. Every car alarm that ever was... by Richard+Kirk · · Score: 1

    We were at a bus stop. Someone across the road came out of a blcok of flats, and tried putting a key into a car. The alarm went off, ewven though the key had unlocked the door. The person opened the bonnet, and pulled, and hit, and eventually blessed silence returned. He then managed to drive off. He could have been stealing the car. We did not think so, but he might have been. If you see a car alarm going off, do you rush to the defence of someone else's property? Naah. Even policemen who stopped when they saw me struggling with a car door and an alarm in a car park moved on when I gave them a wave and a I-can't-help-it shrug.

    I have a Jeep Cherokee (right hand drive). This had an alarm which went off even though the door could be opened, which means the bonnet could be opened, and the alarm could be disconnected. If the side window is left a crack open, the alarm can go off when a gust of wind hits it just so. It then stays on until it is smashed by infuriated neighbours (this is what did for it eventually) or the battery is flat, whereupon the doors all unlock. The car is dead, so I ring home for a jump start. We connect up the batteries, whereupon the doors lock again, locking the keys inside, and the alarm sounds until the battery is flat again, or I rip the wires off. Stupid, stupid, stupid!!!

    I believe BMW have an even finer version of the phone battery alarm trick. If you leave the car in the garage, the alarm system is still on. After about two weeks the battery voltage may dip beneath 11v. The alarm system reckons that someone may be trying to run down the battery, so it flashes the lights, sounds the horn, and uses up the rest of the battery in in the garage. Then it unlocks all the doors. Hooray.

    1. Re:Every car alarm that ever was... by n6kuy · · Score: 1

      Heh. Yeah, car alarms are useless.

      Little Boy Crying Wolf.

      The stupidest ones have a voice alarm: "Step Away From The Car!"

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  201. CAPSLOCK KEY by sakari · · Score: 1

    I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO USES THE CAPSLOCK KEY! EXCEPT PEOPLE IN SLASHDOT POSTING STUPID STUFF!
    Why do modern keyboards have the capslock key? It's totally useless, totally oversized and in a real stupid position compared to the usage. Good thing you can remap it, but anyway. Do you know anybody who uses the caps lock? Much easier to use shift to type capital letters.

    I guess all the COBOL programmers still need it.

  202. Re:Microwave -- battery by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

    Either that or if they got smart with those, they would add a battery to the clock for when the power goes out... or just power the microwave via a UPS, same difference Or use a radio-controlled clock. Of course the UPS would also allow to cook food during the power outage if it doesn't last too long (and the UPS is powerful enough).
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  203. plow shares by sir+8ed · · Score: 1

    modern society

  204. RAZR Low Battery & Voice Message Beep by N8F8 · · Score: 1

    The RAZRs Low Battery & Voice Message Beeping has cost me at least a dozen nights sleep this year alone. IT SUCKS. I'll thunk twice before buying a Motorola phone again.

    I also have an alarm clock that beeps every time you press a button to change the time. Really annoying. Wan't to get another 30 mins sleep? Forget it, after hearing this thing bee 30 times you won't be able to get back to sleep.

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  205. While I'm at it by N8F8 · · Score: 1

    I'm also annoyed with the RAZR stupid noisy shut-down music. Crap, if I'm shutting down the phone I don't want noise. And when you turn it on you get no positive response that it's turning on so I have to hit the power button a bunch of times to get it to turn on. I hope the software designer rots in hell.

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  206. not every carrier Re:Voicemail uses your minutes by damn_registrars · · Score: 1
    I first was using the cell phone company previously promoted by evil-black-trenchcoat guy, and they charged me minutes for everything. Voicemail cost minutes, calling someone else's phone and not getting an answer (or even a machine!) cost minutes, even calling the automated number to check my usage cost minutes!

    Then I switched to the cell phone company that was previously promoted by hot actress lady (I believe that was after being promoted by less good looking actress lady). Now I don't use minutes to check my voicemail or my usage, and I get more minutes for the dollar to boot.

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  207. Situational awareness by Butterspoon · · Score: 1

    How about glancing at your battery level once in a while, combined with a general awareness of when you last charged the phone and how much you have been using it? Any time my phone runs out of juice I will have been expecting it, and not because of some dorky flahing and beeping. Motorola Razrs are the worst. Piercing beeping and nothing you can do about it. Ugh!

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  208. Late post, I know by danbert8 · · Score: 1

    No one will probably read this, but it cannot go undiscussed...
     
    Why in the hell did MS decide you needed to have a RAID driver on a floppy disk?!?!?!? There is no reason a modern operating system can't support getting the driver from a CD/USB/anything but a floppy. When I had to install XP x64 on my RAID, I had to search the whole fucking house to find an old floppy drive and thank god almighty my motherboard still had floppy disk support.
     
    On an semi related note. Don't try to install Windows with a USB hard disk plugged in. It will assume your USB disk the primary device, and even if you specify your internal disk as the install target, it will write your MBR to the USB disk, making your system unbootable if it is removed. Another ARRRGGGHHH STUPID MS!!! moment.

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  209. Text messaging by PotRoastMan · · Score: 1

    My job involves being on call and servers sending me text messages to alert me of problems, but my company having migrated (years ago) from 128-character pagers, still has a 128-character limit on the text messages being send out of the central messaging server. So when I get paged the damn thing splits longer messages into two so it's like "message from blah blah error shows database is down on server a" and the next message concludes the error "bcdef at 2007-05-27 08:10am problem ticket 1728374" As if anybody still carries a freakin' 128-character pager! And it's an enterprise-wide messaging service, so they can not change it until every single person has upgraded their pager. And of course we have some curmudgeon writing mainframe cobol in a basement somewhere who won't give up his 1980 style pager. Not to mention the company spending 2x $ because nearly every alert is split into two messages.

    And then comes the cheap ass cell phones that they get (have to choose the "Free" model for most people).. It had a default screen-saver (god only knows why a LCD screen needs to be saved) but the timeout on it was 10 seconds. That timeout could not be changed, nor could the screensaver be disabled. So I ended up having to type the problem ticket number into my PC with one hand and hitting a button on the cell phone every few seconds with my other hand (laptop, no 10-key). I accidentally dropped this POS in the toilet.. It's disturbing how much the technology impedes my ability to do my job well or react quickly.

  210. Volvo Convertable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have a 2001 Volvo convertible. It's roof breaks on us about once a year. Every time it breaks it will beep every 3 seconds whenever you get above 5km/h. It doesn't matter that the roof is closed, it will still beep.

    The best part is the fuse for the roof is the same fuse that handles the ABS Brakes. Disable the beeping and you disable safety features. Woo hoo!

    That 3 hour drive was HELL.

    Beep beep, I'm a Volvo.

    beep beep beep beep beep beep beep

  211. Things that make you go Hmmmmm by lordmage · · Score: 1

    I just paid 29 bucks for a Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles DVD and now I cannot FAST FORWARD through advertisements for other DVD's in the front of a DVD I just purchased. (The movie is excellent though).

    Why can't tax already be included in the price of an item at a retail store, or Food Chain?

    Cannot turn off the stupid BLUE Circle on my HD Plasma TV so its bright in a room where people sleep. It also drains electricity. It ALSO looks like the darn TV is ON when its NOT.

    Security features that log you out on a website WHILE you are writing a reply to a message.

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  212. Drive-through banking machines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Braille on Drive-through banking machines....

  213. Saving solar energy, latest Yahoo by raygunz · · Score: 1

    I once had a solar-powered calculator that shut itself off (to save sunlight?) after a minute.

    MyYahoo has a feature that updates the "most popular" news items every 5 minutes. I often scroll down the list, picking articles to read in a new window, then going back to the main window. I am often a few articles from the end when the page updates, reordering everything and making me scan from the top. I actually tried to point this out to them, and they got all hung up on what browser I was running, my OS, exactly what did I click, etc. I couldn't get them to understand that this was just an ANNOYING FEATURE OF THEIR SOFTWARE and either fix it or at least acknowledge that they thought it was better that way.

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  214. snooze-not alarm by raygunz · · Score: 1

    I got a CD equipped clock radio for Christmas, along with a Wake Up compilation of tunes. Cool enough. Except that when the alarm triggers, the first thing I hear is the loud spinning of the CD. Then a few seconds after I'm awake, the music comes on.

    But that's not the stupid part. If I hit the snooze button, the music stops, but the CD keeps spinning, noisily enough to keep me awake. And if I look over to see how much more snooze time I have, the time display reads "Track 01". No time.

    I returned it.

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  215. Three words by Bardez · · Score: 1

    Digital Rights Management

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  216. Mobile phones are notorious by curlynoodle · · Score: 1

    Several years ago, I was using the Kyocera Palm "Smartphone" 6035 or something. You know that massive beast of a PDA. The phone featured a s/w keyguard to prevent accidential presses of the front flip pad. However, on top of the device is a big button which toggles OS suspend. There was NO s/w guard for this button. Many times, I would pull out the phone, and there blazes the LCD.

    Another example are the older Motorola phones for (at the time) Nextel. When the battery is low, the device would do two annoying things. First, it beeps periodically (Mots still do this) until charged. ANNOYING! Second, the clock display is replaced by "Low Battery". Minor, yet still annoying.

    My last example is more modern. Camera phones, IMHO, are nearly useless. Poor quality pictures, easily scratched lens. And, if you have a Verizon phone, you can't get your pictures off the camera with messaging at obsurd cost. Just another "feature" to market phones and extra services.

    Dave

  217. The analog hole... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...through which much of my recorded music has passed. Only among the 'worst' features if you've a vested interest in DRM, but then anything can and will be used for purposes not intended.

  218. -1 Offtopic by jbarlow · · Score: 1

    Re your sig: wouldn't Solaris be the Sun?

  219. The road to hell is paved with good intentions by abb3w · · Score: 1

    But if you're a DVD exec, I want the buttons on my DVD player ('fast forward,' 'top menu') to work as they *should* without playing "Mother-may-I?" with the embedded OS. The menu should NEVER be restricted. That doesn't even make sense! What harm could my having instant access to your product's menu do to your bottom line?

    Two ways.

    #1: It enables bypassing the copyright/FBI warning. This was the reason the "no fast forward, no menu" toggle was put into the DVD spec. It was thought the constant reminder would help limit piracy, and thus preserve the legal sales market.
    #2: It enables bypassing the commercials; if you aren't forced to watch the trailers and commercials, you might not be brainwashed into buying their other crap. This is the use that was realized shortly after deployment of the standard.

    Both can impact their bottom line if you can avoid them. Of course, #2 is massively annoying (more people can stand the five second annoyance of the FBI warning than eight minutes of mandatory commercials), and thus causes people to go out and find ways to get around it, which leads directly to bypassing the point of #1... and the region coding to boot in the process of doing so.

    In short, the marketing divisions of major entertainment companies are probably the inspiration for Douglas Adams characterizing that of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as "a bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first against the Wall when the Revolution comes". Here's hoping....

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  220. Windows Mouse Troubleshooter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had a Logitech C-Series mouse. Windows 95 and later do not support this type of mouse. The first time my new mouse failed, I attempted to use the Start-->Help-->Mouse Trouble Shooter. Seems like a good idea, until you try to use it without a mouse. Can't be done, ever on WinXP.

    Stupid, stupid, stupid.

    Every program needs to have a non-mouse tester for usability.

  221. Honda Window Security by Joosy · · Score: 1

    On our 2000 Honda CR-V the driver has four switches to control the four power windows in the car. There is also a master lock switch, which is handy if the kids are playing with the windows.

    So say the kids are making the windows go up and down, you tell'em to stop, and they don't. No problem: you flip the master lock switch and their buttons are unresponsive.

    The problem is, the switch also makes the driver's switches unresponsive. So if you need to close their windows then you need to unlock the master switch, which then lets your (alert) kiddies start playing with their buttons again too.

    Too bad they didn't make the lock just lock the passenger window switches.

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  222. Oh, yeah.... by A_Non_Moose · · Score: 1

    I can think of a few right now:

    Samsung: the previous/skip button is also the RW/FF button if you hold it down for 3 seconds. 2.99 seconds or
    less and you've skipped/rewound w/o meaning to. Bravo, now I can't use a real DVD player because I've got
    such a fucked up control scheme in my head. It does, however, provide some amusement/aggrivation for my son.

    Pioneer: second hand, but my boss has an all pioneer sound system that he found out after adding a 5 disk DVD
    changer, the volume for the sound is the same code to skip/ff for the DVD system.

    Windows XP's Batter backup monitor: a big hearty PHUBBBBB to this POS when I came home several times to disover
    that my machine is powered off. Checked settings and at 15% battery = warn at 5% = shutdown, so that meant
    I was losing power for several minutes a day, but wall clocks were not that far off...hummm.
    Went round-the-round with the power co, to no avail. I just happened to come home early and turn the monitor
    on and the UPS went click-beep and the machine went off 3 seconds later. W..T..F?
    Tuned out that with or w/o APC's s/w, that XP's service/applet/USB/something would got apeshit, ignore settings
    and power down no matter what. Temp solution: move USB cable until it fucks up again. Perm: remove cable from
    machine.

    XP, redux: Dell laptop, and a battery monitor that doesn't. Only seems to be able to display 100, 90, 50, and 5%. So you never know even a *rough* calculation.

    XP redux, part deux: See above and add the BRAINDEAD dialogue box while shutting down "your batter is criticl, recharge or replace battery"...THAT HALTS THE SHUTDOWN PROCESS! Maybe it is D*ll's fault, but damn, someone
    needs a smack.

    Windows default settings: hiding extensions, executing scripts/html in folders + browser integration that makes
    it possible, hiding menu options that are rarely used.

    MS office defaults: hiding menu options, period. Nothing like walking someone thru a common office task (or
    even uncommon) only to get "I don't see that option". Conversation of that feature went something like:
    User: I don't see it.
    Me: do you see two chevrons/arrows pointing down?
    User: yeah.
    Me: click it.
    User: ah! now I see the menu option. What a stupid feature.
    Me: "That's the power of Microsoft software!". Aren't you impressed?

    Sears garage door opener: Safety feature turned stupid feature, where if you have something blocking the travel
    downward, it raises the door. Ok, cool. Neat idea, saves crushing kids and animals.
    Also works going up, and when it gets cold it gets harder to open the door and closes the door again. Uh-huh.
    So, during the winter I wind up playing "when will the door stop mash-the-remote-button-fast-enough to continue
    its travel upward until it happens again mid travel (phew). No wonder batteries don't last long in the
    winter. Grease, wd-40, increasing the torque only go so far. Somtimes all it takes is the extra lift from
    my index finger. Not kidding. Would be amusing if it weren't so silly.

    Motorola: Got one of those 800 series phones for emergencies. I hope nothing life threatening ever happens, because that 10 to 20 second fucking intro animation that can't be turned off might be a bit of a problem,
    ya think? (technically it can, but involves several alpha/beta programs and file system hacking with void-
    your-warrantee-fire-flood-death-by-lawyers type disclaimers. (SIGH) ).

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  223. Windows by mistralol · · Score: 1


    MS Windows XP SP2 Security improvements

  224. Digital Thermometer by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

    The worst product design I have ever used. The alarm temperature started at 0degF and increased ONE (1) degree per press of the increase button. Or, rather, it beeped on press and incremented on release. There was no method of increasing more than one degree at a time. Holding any button for longer than 10 seconds shutoff the device. The alarm temperature is not stored when the power is off. Cording buttons does either nothing or reset the device.

    Therefore, if you want to set the alarm for 250degF, you must press (and release) the button TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY times. I got to about 130 before I took a hammer to it. All other frustrations have seemed petty in the face of pressing (and releasing) that stupid button over and over.

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  225. Windows upgrade by Avatar8 · · Score: 1
    Seriously.


    95->98->2000->XP->Vista

    The primary reason you are upgrading is to get more stability and features. Very likely the secondary reason you are upgrading is to leave some problems with the existing OS behind.

    When you upgrade you only partially reach these objectives. Yes, you have new features, but likely you brought your legacy applications with you and they may or may not be able to take advantage of the new OS features or may not run at all. If you had problems (stability, memory leak, drivers) and you perform an upgrade, you're bringing your problems with you.

    Almost every Windows upgrade I've attempted in the past has ended the same way: back up the data, reformat and load the new OS from scratch, restore data.

    NOW you have a new system as opposed to a patchwork quilt with numerous inherent issues.

    Vista was by far the smoothest upgrade (too bad it wasn't worth keeping). I'm beginning to think MS is learning the fallacy of an upgrade and simply performing a backup/load/restore underneath the GUI shell.

  226. Self setting alarm clock by gainead · · Score: 1

    I had an atomic alarm clock that would automatically reset the alarm every day for the next day when you hit the off button. The problem with this feature is you had to use it or turn it completely off. (defeating the purpose of it automatically setting the alarm) It did have a button to make it not go off the following morning. I had this clock in college imagine what it did when I was gone for the weekend or a few days... My roommates hated this clock. It must have been a massive failure, I have seen these clocks on clearance and at outlets many times since.

  227. The Motorolla DVR from Comcast by GWBasic · · Score: 1

    I have a motorolla DVR from Comcast. It does some of the stupidest things.

    If you're watching a show, and it finishes recording a show on another channel, it displays a huge message on the screen that it just FINISHED recording a show. Why would I care? I only care that it started recording the show. What's more annoying is that it's hard to get rid of the message; it'll just sit there and obscure the show that I'm watching for 30 seconds!

    The DVR is 2-tuner. Let's say I'm watching channel 2, and it's about to record shows on channel 2 and 3. It'll change the channel that I'm watching to 3, and start recording 2 in the background.

    The DVR will also lock up when it gets transmissions from the network. When it does that, it queues up button presses. It's real annoying, because it'll fast-forward through half of a show and then start to skip around.

    Whenever a show ends, it puts up a dialog where the default selection is to DELETE the show. If you're navigating a menu, and the dialog shows up right before you hit a button, you can accidentally delete the show.

  228. Cruzer Micro USB Drives! by ikimashokie · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's just mine, or the fact that I bought them from The Great Evil (aka Best Buy), but instead of doing the logical "my light flashes on when I'm reading/writing," it does the opposite. The light is automatically on, unless it's reading/writing, then it goes off. It blinks so quickly, I stare at the light and wonder "is it still doing r/w? Can I take it out?" It's like they want to force you to use the OS drive-eject function.

  229. Netgear NIC's by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

    my personal favorite, at the ISP where i worked, they would buy lots of nic's for instilation in new customers computers (because some of the people around here have oooold comps with no nic, and we have bad electrical storms, so peoples nics seem to fry a lot) anyways, the ones they got came in a nice box, with a slip of paper inside that says "before installing this nic, visit www.netgear.com and download and install the driver" or something along those lines. and invariably, the floppy drive in the computer had half a jelly sandwich in it, or the usb drivers where corupt, or the thumb drive was borrowed/lost/broken. real pain in the butt.

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  230. Clothes Dryer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The worst in my household is the clothes dryer that buzzes after a complete cycle (and again a few minutes later) with an ear drum busting alarm that you cannot turn down. Tomorrow I am going to locate the buzzer and amputate.

  231. Cell phones in general by sco08y · · Score: 1

    Didn't the wireless providers / phone manufacturers / other evil conspirators ever notice that people don't use all their stupid "features?"

    For example: I didn't pay for Internet access on my phone. So I don't want 3 of my main menu options devoted to it. And if they're going to put their stupid shopping pages on top of all the browser lists or even on the main menu, at least have something worth buying!

    And then stuff like synchronizing my address book simply doesn't work. I don't think I have ever, from as early as Palm III to my latest smartphone, gotten the synchronizing software to move changes from the phone to the computer and vice versa without fucking it up.

    Spare me the pretty interface and get the basics to work. *Then* you can worry about ringtones and wallpapers that show off everyone's bad taste in music and poor choice of sexual partners.

  232. Pruning Shears by conureman · · Score: 1

    A set of professional grade shears does the job nicely. Maybe the design allows for hand clearance, (think rosebush) but they do seem to keep the mitts out of harms way. I've done the bloody knuckle thing with kitchen shears and gyp-knives (known as box-cutters since 9/11), but no more. As an amateur gardener, I have a few pair by the back door so they are easy to access any time I am compelled to deal with that style of consumer-resistant-packaging. As a well-known-misanthropist I find this one of the stimuli that induces my medication reflex, and as a rule I endeavor to boycott the purveyors of this blight, but it don't come easy.

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  233. Random crazy theory by feedmetrolls · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure how it relates to setting the date, but /. voices in my head are assuring me it's to properly enforce a DRM lock on all your food. No heating stolen pizza for you!

    General Electric, General Motors, and General Mills are all in this together. I can feel it.

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