The 360 will never use BD for games. It can't. The games have to work for all consoles sold, even the earlier ones. Putting out a HDDVD game would just piss off 10 million 360 owners who only have DVD drives.
Even the HDDVD drive was never intended for more than movie watching. If the 360 is gimped by DVD9, it's gimped. Now the XBox720 on the other hand...
Lance Armstrong. Go with me here a moment. Nobody but Lance knows whether he took drugs to win the Tour so many times. But there's a certain logic out there that says, "We know he won, and to win you have to take the drugs, so he must have taken them."
Same sort of argument applies here. Without any proof, we're free to speculate, though.
This game is obviously on my must have list of games to buy. Don't get me wrong, Heavenly Sword was great, but thats come and gone.
What Sony really needs is more good games, not one blockbuster. My co-worker compares the PS3 to a sports car. Most of the time its sitting in the garage or somewhere collecting dust. Then every once in a while a fantastic game comes out and you get to take it out for a good drag-race.
To sell more PS3s Sony needs more than a killer game once every six months. OK, I keep hearing this. Why does everyone start with the base assumption that the headline game is the only one coming out? Every good game comes out, it's "this is great, but I wouldn't spend $600 for it!" or comments like above. The only thing I can think of is that Sony's advertising dept sucks and nobody knows there are actually decent games coming.
I mean screw LBP; what I really want to play is Uncharted. I guess people don't know about it, but it looks awesome. Or Rachet and Clank, which looks like Pixar made it, but it's realtime. And, by accounts, it's FUN. Unreal Tournament III is coming as a timed exclusive, Haze as an exclusive, Singstar (if you're my wife, this is important), the RPG Folklore as an exclusive, and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. And all I mentioned were the exclusives I'm interested in coming in the next 2 months. There's more coming, but much of it is probably crap, since I'm not interested in it.
Surely I'll be downmodded for sounding like a commercial or for owning a PS3, but damn. You really think this console is trying to ride just one horse?
A. Why are there so many articles lately about really trivial things like a game being "almost done" or a release date announced? The best discussion here is about the Packers.
B. GO PACK GO!!!!!! (long-displaced Appleton native)
Apparently Sony referenced this patent in their application:
"Oddly enough, Sony's own patent, filed in 2001 and issued in 2007, actually lists the 1991 patent as a citation. In other words, Sony's own patent lawyers have already seen the old patent and deemed it not to be a threat, and the U.S. Patent Office apparently agreed when it issued Sony the patent in June."
Regarding the 360 vs. PS3 GPU: this gets repeated a lot, that the PS3 RSX GPU is weaker. And it's a true, but also misleading, thing to say.
In terms of vertex shaders, the Xenos has a clear advantage over the RSX - it's six times as fast. Wow! But in pixel shaders, the RSX is king. Power wise, then, the Xenos ends up a bit more powerful (not 6X).
But the GPUs are not isolated parts. They're attached to CPUs with a bus that has a communications bandwidth - and there the difference lies. And so the Cell is used to do the vertex work, and then pushes it to the RSX, where all it needs is pixels. The upshot is that they work together, as another poster hinted at pretty brusquely.
In the end, it'll be the games that decide. But looking at what's out right now, half a year into the real competition, and claiming one is weaker than another is retarded. We'll know in a year what the story really is, and probably not before then.
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Pretty sure it does. In that it's free. But they won't give you back the time you waste coming to that conclusion...
The 360 will never use BD for games. It can't. The games have to work for all consoles sold, even the earlier ones. Putting out a HDDVD game would just piss off 10 million 360 owners who only have DVD drives.
Even the HDDVD drive was never intended for more than movie watching. If the 360 is gimped by DVD9, it's gimped. Now the XBox720 on the other hand...
Lance Armstrong. Go with me here a moment. Nobody but Lance knows whether he took drugs to win the Tour so many times. But there's a certain logic out there that says, "We know he won, and to win you have to take the drugs, so he must have taken them."
Same sort of argument applies here. Without any proof, we're free to speculate, though.
"Gaming Mag Circulation Numbers May Not Mean That Much"
Was anyone under the impression they did?
So...you've never had cable TV then?
What Sony really needs is more good games, not one blockbuster. My co-worker compares the PS3 to a sports car. Most of the time its sitting in the garage or somewhere collecting dust. Then every once in a while a fantastic game comes out and you get to take it out for a good drag-race.
To sell more PS3s Sony needs more than a killer game once every six months. OK, I keep hearing this. Why does everyone start with the base assumption that the headline game is the only one coming out? Every good game comes out, it's "this is great, but I wouldn't spend $600 for it!" or comments like above. The only thing I can think of is that Sony's advertising dept sucks and nobody knows there are actually decent games coming.
I mean screw LBP; what I really want to play is Uncharted. I guess people don't know about it, but it looks awesome. Or Rachet and Clank, which looks like Pixar made it, but it's realtime. And, by accounts, it's FUN. Unreal Tournament III is coming as a timed exclusive, Haze as an exclusive, Singstar (if you're my wife, this is important), the RPG Folklore as an exclusive, and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. And all I mentioned were the exclusives I'm interested in coming in the next 2 months. There's more coming, but much of it is probably crap, since I'm not interested in it.
Surely I'll be downmodded for sounding like a commercial or for owning a PS3, but damn. You really think this console is trying to ride just one horse?
A. Why are there so many articles lately about really trivial things like a game being "almost done" or a release date announced? The best discussion here is about the Packers. B. GO PACK GO!!!!!! (long-displaced Appleton native)
So much for the PS3 "launch window" closing anytime soon.
Apparently Sony referenced this patent in their application:
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"Oddly enough, Sony's own patent, filed in 2001 and issued in 2007, actually lists the 1991 patent as a citation. In other words, Sony's own patent lawyers have already seen the old patent and deemed it not to be a threat, and the U.S. Patent Office apparently agreed when it issued Sony the patent in June."
http://news.digitaltrends.com/news/story/13725/ps
There may be very little ammo in this suit.
Regarding the 360 vs. PS3 GPU: this gets repeated a lot, that the PS3 RSX GPU is weaker. And it's a true, but also misleading, thing to say. In terms of vertex shaders, the Xenos has a clear advantage over the RSX - it's six times as fast. Wow! But in pixel shaders, the RSX is king. Power wise, then, the Xenos ends up a bit more powerful (not 6X). But the GPUs are not isolated parts. They're attached to CPUs with a bus that has a communications bandwidth - and there the difference lies. And so the Cell is used to do the vertex work, and then pushes it to the RSX, where all it needs is pixels. The upshot is that they work together, as another poster hinted at pretty brusquely. In the end, it'll be the games that decide. But looking at what's out right now, half a year into the real competition, and claiming one is weaker than another is retarded. We'll know in a year what the story really is, and probably not before then.