Well people use the same argument for guns and in the case of guns well you only have to look at the gun homicide rate in the UK compared to the US. Yes I know correlation isnt causation but still.
Actually I don't know what the outcome would be but I wouldn't write it off.
Well who actually knows about the doctors? But most people don't need a lot of esoteric knives.
Carrying a knife would probably be called "Carrying an Offensive Weapon" I don't know the punishment.
> If you want to prevent homicides, you prevent WHY > they happen, not WHAT they happen with. If you
> want to manage crime, and your population, you
> work on the WHAT.
I fully agree with that. But the point is people aren't garroting each with guitar strings. They ARE however walking around with kitchen knives.
I would say, England is MORE democratic the for example the USA. American elections depend mainly on MONEY. Rich people essentially buy themselves into office with PR advertising campaigns. US elections arent based on issues but on Personality. The UK is going that way unfortunately but it is certainly less so.
As for going to war with the US well that was to do with tax (money), control and power. Just like thee IRAQ war.
> When did we as a race become so afraid to die we > won't let ourselves live?
We are not. Someone suggested away to reduce deaths by stabbing. That's it!
This is kind of ridiculous. You can cut a water melon with a flat ended knife.
And someone is much much more LIKELY to survive and kicking that being stabbed.
BUT ITS NOT MY SUGGESTION!
The point of the doctors argument is that the point of the knife is NOT NECESSARY or USEFUL.
The people who are dying are not "Fuck wit perpetrators" they are young people. Many of them being bullied.
Are you suggesting we start killing British teenagers who carry knives ? Sorry but that would
be at best dysfunctional.
The thing is here no one seems to have a useful alternative.
Well yes that is the point. Non pointed knives can still kill someone but it takes a lot longer. It actually says that in the article.
I don't deserve liberty or safety ? Thats a bit harsh. Its NOT my suggestion. I do happen to think it makes some sense. If you have a good suggestion for stopping the deaths then please state it.
I was only pointing out THE UK IS NOT ON THE VERGE OF BANNING KITCHEN KNIVES.
The difference is I believe that a long pointed knife is a very fast efficient way to kill someone, and young people are killing each other more and more. You end "this crap" when you come up with a good way to save peoples lives. Its easy to criticize but unless you have a better way to prevent knife crime I dont think you have much to add to the debate.
"UK doesn't have proper health care" What does that have to do with it? Anyway from my experience the heath care in the UK in general has been VERY VERY good.
No I am not trying to justify it. I was trying to point out we are NOT on the verge of a ban of kitchen knives. Its just a suggestion from a group of doctors. I don't see the big deal.
Well the issue is how do you reduce deaths due to stabbings? One way would be to reduce access to long pointed knives. I would be happy not to have a pointed kitchen knife if it would save only one life. Anyway its just a suggestion from a group of people who deal with the stab wounds and deaths related to these knives.
I used to work as a software engineer on the London underground systems. I worked on a lot of the infrastructure software including a lot of stuff related to the oyster card.
I think overall they do a very good job. The ticketing system is exceedingly complex. Its also very much dependent on a large volume of configuration data used control everything from the screens on the ticket machines to the pricing of tickets.
Because of the complexity of the system handing over everything to a new contractor, that knows little about it, would very likely be a huge disaster.
I think the key phrase in your post is "though there was some exaggeration" everyone now knows the exaggeration was huge and resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.
There were many uses of fraudulent intelligence. For example the US government promoted the false claim, through State Department Fact Sheets, that Saddam Hussein had been seeking to procure uranium from Niger.
http://www.antiwar.com/mcgovern/?articleid=5934
Calling an entire nations poor people "extremely indolent and dishonest" is absolutely disgusting and racist.
One thing I noticed in my life is when you meet people from different countries the stereo types are actually quite often far from the truth.
I read the Fodors guide to the UK. I am British and what it said was hilarious and full of crap.
Bet your an American! Ha ha ha... I am such a hypocrite, but I just bet you are.
I don't think I have ever met one person in favour of private gun ownership in the UK. Nobody is in the slightest bit interested in it. The last thing people want is even more guns in the hands of criminals and our cities and schools turning into war zones.
I have to ask, why does Britain outlaw guns? Yeah totally off topic BUT...
Do you seriously need to ask that ? Amongst the other variety of obvious reasons we are currently very happy not having our children shoot each up in high school. Its obvious from outside the US looking in that the almost unfettered sale of weapons is a complete disaster.
Yeah you must be right, I am sure the researchers have no idea what their talking about and came up with their ideas whilst throwing back beers at the pub in Amesbury.
"Theories about Stonehenge are cheap; proof is precious," commented BBC Timewatch editor, John Farren.
Well according to the study referenced in the link the BBC is one of the worst offenders.
To be honest I don't think I can remember ever seeing or reading a BBC news coverage that
has given equal coverage to both sides. If you really want to learn about the Middle East
I highly recommend this guys web site. http://www.jkcook.net/
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Well people use the same argument for guns and in the case of guns well you only have to look at the gun homicide rate in the UK compared to the US. Yes I know correlation isnt causation but still. Actually I don't know what the outcome would be but I wouldn't write it off.
Well who actually knows about the doctors? But most people don't need a lot of esoteric knives. Carrying a knife would probably be called "Carrying an Offensive Weapon" I don't know the punishment.
That's just ridiculous. You could easily cut a water melon with a Chinese cleaver for example. A longer thinner would work just fine.
> If you want to prevent homicides, you prevent WHY > they happen, not WHAT they happen with. If you > want to manage crime, and your population, you > work on the WHAT. I fully agree with that. But the point is people aren't garroting each with guitar strings. They ARE however walking around with kitchen knives.
I would say, England is MORE democratic the for example the USA. American elections depend mainly on MONEY. Rich people essentially buy themselves into office with PR advertising campaigns. US elections arent based on issues but on Personality. The UK is going that way unfortunately but it is certainly less so. As for going to war with the US well that was to do with tax (money), control and power. Just like thee IRAQ war.
> When did we as a race become so afraid to die we > won't let ourselves live? We are not. Someone suggested away to reduce deaths by stabbing. That's it!
This is kind of ridiculous. You can cut a water melon with a flat ended knife. And someone is much much more LIKELY to survive and kicking that being stabbed. BUT ITS NOT MY SUGGESTION!
> Maybe you guys might want to figure out why the > "young people" are pissed off and do something > about it? Yes that's very true.
So we should just accept young people murdering each other with knives ? I don't have much to say to that.
The point of the doctors argument is that the point of the knife is NOT NECESSARY or USEFUL. The people who are dying are not "Fuck wit perpetrators" they are young people. Many of them being bullied. Are you suggesting we start killing British teenagers who carry knives ? Sorry but that would be at best dysfunctional. The thing is here no one seems to have a useful alternative.
Well yes that is the point. Non pointed knives can still kill someone but it takes a lot longer. It actually says that in the article. I don't deserve liberty or safety ? Thats a bit harsh. Its NOT my suggestion. I do happen to think it makes some sense. If you have a good suggestion for stopping the deaths then please state it. I was only pointing out THE UK IS NOT ON THE VERGE OF BANNING KITCHEN KNIVES.
The difference is I believe that a long pointed knife is a very fast efficient way to kill someone, and young people are killing each other more and more. You end "this crap" when you come up with a good way to save peoples lives. Its easy to criticize but unless you have a better way to prevent knife crime I dont think you have much to add to the debate. "UK doesn't have proper health care" What does that have to do with it? Anyway from my experience the heath care in the UK in general has been VERY VERY good.
No I am not trying to justify it. I was trying to point out we are NOT on the verge of a ban of kitchen knives. Its just a suggestion from a group of doctors. I don't see the big deal.
Well the issue is how do you reduce deaths due to stabbings? One way would be to reduce access to long pointed knives. I would be happy not to have a pointed kitchen knife if it would save only one life. Anyway its just a suggestion from a group of people who deal with the stab wounds and deaths related to these knives.
Actually the UK is NOT at the verge of banning kitchen knives. A group of Doctors suggested the ban of POINTED kitchen knives. By the way very few people in the UK actually wants fire arms to become legal. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/46266/Ban-kitchen-knives-to-save-lives-says-doctor
Ok as long as its next to your house and no where near mine I am ok with it.
I used to work as a software engineer on the London underground systems. I worked on a lot of the infrastructure software including a lot of stuff related to the oyster card. I think overall they do a very good job. The ticketing system is exceedingly complex. Its also very much dependent on a large volume of configuration data used control everything from the screens on the ticket machines to the pricing of tickets. Because of the complexity of the system handing over everything to a new contractor, that knows little about it, would very likely be a huge disaster.
Why the hell do the mods find this joke funny any more!?
What you mean the Iraqis did it?
I think the key phrase in your post is "though there was some exaggeration" everyone now knows the exaggeration was huge and resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. There were many uses of fraudulent intelligence. For example the US government promoted the false claim, through State Department Fact Sheets, that Saddam Hussein had been seeking to procure uranium from Niger. http://www.antiwar.com/mcgovern/?articleid=5934
Calling an entire nations poor people "extremely indolent and dishonest" is absolutely disgusting and racist. One thing I noticed in my life is when you meet people from different countries the stereo types are actually quite often far from the truth. I read the Fodors guide to the UK. I am British and what it said was hilarious and full of crap. Bet your an American! Ha ha ha... I am such a hypocrite, but I just bet you are.
I don't think I have ever met one person in favour of private gun ownership in the UK. Nobody is in the slightest bit interested in it. The last thing people want is even more guns in the hands of criminals and our cities and schools turning into war zones.
Yeah you must be right, I am sure the researchers have no idea what their talking about and came up with their ideas whilst throwing back beers at the pub in Amesbury. "Theories about Stonehenge are cheap; proof is precious," commented BBC Timewatch editor, John Farren.
Well according to the study referenced in the link the BBC is one of the worst offenders. To be honest I don't think I can remember ever seeing or reading a BBC news coverage that has given equal coverage to both sides. If you really want to learn about the Middle East I highly recommend this guys web site. http://www.jkcook.net/