i bought a gameboy color last fall, it uses 2 AA batteries. nintendo says that those should last around 16 hours but i was able to play (super mario bross:) around 20 hours before batteries were exhausted. so i guess gb advance is not going to be any worse than gb color
I would like to learn more about secure programming under *nix. I have decent knowledge of c, cpp and java.
Where should I start?
What book/doc/faq do you recommand me reading?
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sorry if i offended you or anything like that:( i was just kinda pissed off because lately i've been hearing lots of shit about gnu/linux from some immature *bsd users so i kinda had to reply to that "linux isnt stable enough" post of yours....
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> Where did I imply that BSD == FreeBSD?
here "Could this be a sign that BSD is getting bigger in the marketplace? They've never been that big. Maybe that the merger with BSDI is finally paying off, marketingwise" . first you are asking if bsd is getting bigger, than you say that their merger with bsdi might be reason behind increase of popularity of bsd. its walnut creek that merged with bsdi not netbsd foundation or openbsd
> I don't know about Debian because I never ran it
then dont say that linux conf files are changing their place constantly. specify distribution!!! btw can you give me an example of some major gnu/linux distro changing location of their conf files more than once in last 4-5 years ?.
well, you have full access to source code, noone is forbiding you to fork their projects and port them over to any system you like.
dont bitch at authors, be gratefull instead that they choose to release their code. its their own choice if they want to maintain ports to other operating systems.
he said that probably because in us it seems to be "politically correct" to be religious while here in europe people would laugh at scientiest who would say same statement as collins did.
btw i agree with you civII is among top5 games ever made. civ. ctp was quite good also, i hope loki will release ctp2 for gnu/linux so i can try that one too...
i believe that price control is legal in many countries, for example if you buy packet of ciggarettes here in sweden there is a sticker saying "max price 38(or 39 not sure any more) skr"
i've been thinking lately about this redundancy that distributed projects around net got to have, and figured out that its probably more cost effective for a big company to buy supercomputer, pile of alphas or build huge beowulf cluster and do all their processing in-house instead of paying for cpu time to users around net. with distributed project over internet there is basicaly 2-3 times as much data to process plus that there is no guaranty that the processing will be completed by some point in time.
so is commercial distributed computing going to die in few years ? what do you think....
yeah, seti@home had bunch of problems in the begining, one of those was that people were patching clients to improve their speed. seti@home didnt want to accept those patches because they were not being validated by scientist, so they started discarding units from lots of ppl, later they found that they still might be lots of units that were accepted and were coming from patched clients....
when it comes to redundancy they do every unit 3 times, which is i guess okay if you want to be sure that there are no chance of units being wrongly processed. distributed.net does every key/node twice...
well difference between mac and gnu/linux is not as big as it might seem on first glance. for example on that list mac0s is mentioned 2 times while gnu/linux is mentioned 6 times. now if we add together all those units:
Macos: 22714077+73=22714150
GNU/Linux: 12672647+5929716+2269+1+1=18604642
now difference is not longer around 8 million units but 4 millions instead. with that many units linux moves into #4.
so linux users contribute 81% of what mac users contribute.
lets now take a look at another huge distributed project. distributed.net has around 500 000 users, of which 50 000 are active every day. ( i wonder how many active users / day seti@home has).
project OGR25 MacOS
macosX on powerPC is #14, rhapsody on powerPC is #16 and MacOS on powerPC is #4.
gnu/linux
linux on x86 is #2, linux on alpha is #12, linux on arm is #22, linux on MIPS is #24, linux on S390 is #30 and linux on sparc is #31.
that means that macos has 22 054 256 gnodes while linux has 108 845 111 gnodes. mac users contribute 19% of what linux users contribute.
this shows that doing linux client before mac client is actually smart choice by f@h.
> Given the reasonable success of these systems I wonder when people are going to start exploiting this sort of system comercially.
there are number of companies that are going to offer for pay project. you should check out following sites:
popular power: Research on influenza vaccination. has windows and gnu/linux clients. mac, solaris and *bsd clients about to be released soon. it has tim oreilly of o'reilly as board member.
parabon: Research on cancer treatment (chemotherapy). clients exist only for windows but they are going to release gnu/linux client soon. they are giving out 100$ on daily basis to random providers.
Dcypher/Processtree they have some kind of physics project. problem is that its easily to cheat on this project. they are also giving out 100$ to random users.
now to my conclusion. all of these projects are paying to little to warrant me donating my cpu time to them. many of them demands that you have 24/7 access to inet. this is something that is unnacaptable to large number of users in europe because we dont have flat rate, so i'll keep donating my cpu cycles to ogr project on dist.net
i would also prefer them dumping rc5-64 project but its more or less imposible because if they dumped rc5-64, it wouldnt be good thing pr wise.
what would you think if you were running dist.net client for 3 years doing rc5 cracking and d.net suddenly discontinues the project. most of users would switch to "more trustful" project because they dont want their work to be discarded.
i was about to recommand you using unix amiga emulator (uae for short) which is btw excellent for playing amiga games but i noticed this on their homepage:
4 x 3.5" floppy disk drives (DF0:, DF1:, DF2: and DF3:). It's not possible to read Amiga disks, so these are emulated with disk files."
there is a site here that has more info on techniques that might enable you to read those disks on pc.
> Unfortunately for Hurd, for example, they will not have the neccesary developer base to get the ball rolling and self sustaining for a long time. By that time, Hurd may very well be obsolete.
hmm this is not really truth. i've been on debian-hurd mailing list for a year and traffic on it has been steadily increasing and there are probably 20-30 people posting patches almost on daily basis. other kernel project doesnt have much more developers than that. theo said in his slashdot interview that openbsd kernel had around 50 contributors.
offcourse they have 70% of desktop market. desktop != window menager. kwm/kde and sawmill/gnome (e/gnome) has probably around 20% of wm market
but they have together almost 100% of desktop market.
btw both enlightment and windowmaker have larger user base than any of the desktops.
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i bought a gameboy color last fall, it uses 2 AA batteries. nintendo says that those should last around 16 hours but i was able to play (super mario bross :) around 20 hours before batteries were exhausted. so i guess gb advance is not going to be any worse than gb color
ERSH == encrypted remote shell
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ESH == encrypted shell
hmm if i understand it right *bsd ppl wont merge gpl code into their kernel (it would make whole kernel gpl) so i believe you are out of luck...
uuh kde isnt using objC
I would like to learn more about secure programming under *nix. I have decent knowledge of c, cpp and java.
Where should I start?
What book/doc/faq do you recommand me reading?
ncftp .../pub/linux/kernel/v2.4 > get linux-2.4.0.tar.bz2
:)
linux-2.4.0.tar.bz2: ETA: 0:29 4.06/ 18.87 MB 517.17 kB/s
sorry if i offended you or anything like that :( i was just kinda pissed off because lately i've been hearing lots of shit about gnu/linux from some immature *bsd users so i kinda had to reply to that "linux isnt stable enough" post of yours....
> Where did I imply that BSD == FreeBSD?
here "Could this be a sign that BSD is getting bigger in the marketplace? They've never been that big. Maybe that the merger with BSDI is finally paying off, marketingwise" . first you are asking if bsd is getting bigger, than you say that their merger with bsdi might be reason behind increase of popularity of bsd. its walnut creek that merged with bsdi not netbsd foundation or openbsd
> I don't know about Debian because I never ran it
then dont say that linux conf files are changing their place constantly. specify distribution!!!
btw can you give me an example of some major gnu/linux distro changing location of their conf files more than once in last 4-5 years ?.
well, you have full access to source code, noone is forbiding you to fork their projects and port them over to any system you like.
dont bitch at authors, be gratefull instead that they choose to release their code. its their own choice if they want to maintain ports to other operating systems.
he said that probably because in us it seems to be "politically correct" to be religious while here in europe people would laugh at scientiest who would say same statement as collins did.
it says "influential" not best games :)
btw i agree with you civII is among top5 games ever made. civ. ctp was quite good also, i hope loki will release ctp2 for gnu/linux so i can try that one too...
it was max price
i believe that price control is legal in many countries, for example if you buy packet of ciggarettes here in sweden there is a sticker saying "max price 38(or 39 not sure any more) skr"
i've been thinking lately about this redundancy that distributed projects around net got to have, and figured out that its probably more cost effective for a big company to buy supercomputer, pile of alphas or build huge beowulf cluster and do all their processing in-house instead of paying for cpu time to users around net.
with distributed project over internet there is basicaly 2-3 times as much data to process plus that there is no guaranty that the processing will be completed by some point in time.
so is commercial distributed computing going to die in few years ? what do you think....
yeah, seti@home had bunch of problems in the begining, one of those was that people were patching clients to improve their speed. seti@home didnt want to accept those patches because they were not being validated by scientist, so they started discarding units from lots of ppl, later they found that they still might be lots of units that were accepted and were coming from patched clients....
when it comes to redundancy they do every unit 3 times, which is i guess okay if you want to be sure that there are no chance of units being wrongly processed. distributed.net does every key/node twice...
well difference between mac and gnu/linux is not as big as it might seem on first glance. for example on that list mac0s is mentioned 2 times while gnu/linux is mentioned 6 times. now if we add together all those units:
Macos: 22714077+73=22714150
GNU/Linux: 12672647+5929716+2269+1+1=18604642
now difference is not longer around 8 million units but 4 millions instead. with that many units linux moves into #4.
so linux users contribute 81% of what mac users contribute.
lets now take a look at another huge distributed project. distributed.net has around 500 000 users, of which 50 000 are active every day. ( i wonder how many active users / day seti@home has).
project OGR25
MacOS
macosX on powerPC is #14, rhapsody on powerPC is #16 and MacOS on powerPC is #4.
gnu/linux
linux on x86 is #2, linux on alpha is #12, linux on arm is #22, linux on MIPS is #24, linux on S390 is #30 and linux on sparc is #31.
that means that macos has 22 054 256 gnodes while linux has 108 845 111 gnodes. mac users contribute 19% of what linux users contribute.
this shows that doing linux client before mac client is actually smart choice by f@h.
> Given the reasonable success of these systems I wonder when people are going to start exploiting this sort of system comercially.
there are number of companies that are going to offer for pay project. you should check out following sites:
popular power: Research on influenza vaccination. has windows and gnu/linux clients. mac, solaris and *bsd clients about to be released soon. it has tim oreilly of o'reilly as board member.
parabon: Research on cancer treatment (chemotherapy). clients exist only for windows but they are going to release gnu/linux client soon. they are giving out 100$ on daily basis to random providers.
Dcypher/Processtree they have some kind of physics project. problem is that its easily to cheat on this project. they are also giving out 100$ to random users.
now to my conclusion. all of these projects are paying to little to warrant me donating my cpu time to them. many of them demands that you have 24/7 access to inet. this is something that is unnacaptable to large number of users in europe because we dont have flat rate, so i'll keep donating my cpu cycles to ogr project on dist.net
as i have already pointed in my comments before distributed.net has more projects than rc5-64.
you might want to take a look at a optimal golomb ruler project page at d.net.
there is some science now :)
check out ogr projects. ogr homepage on distributed.net has more information what ogr is and how it can be used.
i would also prefer them dumping rc5-64 project but its more or less imposible because if they dumped rc5-64, it wouldnt be good thing pr wise. what would you think if you were running dist.net client for 3 years doing rc5 cracking and d.net suddenly discontinues the project. most of users would switch to "more trustful" project because they dont want their work to be discarded.
i was about to recommand you using unix amiga emulator (uae for short) which is btw excellent for playing amiga games but i noticed this on their homepage:
4 x 3.5" floppy disk drives (DF0:, DF1:, DF2: and DF3:). It's not possible to read Amiga disks, so these are emulated with disk files."
there is a site here that has more info on techniques that might enable you to read those disks on pc.
> Unfortunately for Hurd, for example, they will not have the neccesary developer base to get the ball rolling and self sustaining for a long time. By that time, Hurd may very well be obsolete.
hmm this is not really truth. i've been on debian-hurd mailing list for a year and traffic on it has been steadily increasing and there are probably 20-30 people posting patches almost on daily basis. other kernel project doesnt have much more developers than that. theo said in his slashdot interview that openbsd kernel had around 50 contributors.
box looks same way as windows tin box and has paper stick saying "LINUX VERSION"
offcourse they have 70% of desktop market. desktop != window menager. kwm/kde and sawmill/gnome (e/gnome) has probably around 20% of wm market but they have together almost 100% of desktop market.
btw both enlightment and windowmaker have larger user base than any of the desktops.
heh but gtk is only useful as long as you are coding in c, wrappers for other languages lag behind...
and btw there are python wrappers for qt. check out following sites "Python + KDE tutorial"> and PyKDE