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Gameboy Advance US Launch Details

GB Fanatic was one of many people to send this: "I've seen Game Boy Advance news here before so I thought perhaps some of you would be interested in this. Nintendo has announced the full line-up and price range for the launch of Game Boy Advance. GBStation.com has the details. Oh, GBStation.com also has a list of classic SNES and N64 titles that will be released for Game Boy Advance, including Super Mario Bros. 3." There's also a CNN article which has a bit more information. I don't know, I think I've outgrown the Gameboy, but judging from the number of people I've seen playing the snake game on their cellphones, handheld games are still pretty popular.

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  1. Re:Hopefully... by R2P2 · · Score: 1

    The problem with the NGPC was that it wasn't a Game Boy; there are something like 500 GB games available, and the NGPC was released with a dozen. Most of the games released for the Neo Geo Pocket Color were fighting games, with one or two RPGs and nothing I can think of that could compete with good ol' Tetris. It's main market ended up being hardcore gamers, and there aren't too many hardcore gamers who are into portable gaming. SNK realized that their market wasn't large enough to be worth the effort, so they bailed.

  2. Re:Who the hell wrote that CNN article? by Augusto · · Score: 1

    Average reader/user needs this type of information, since they've all heard of this Playstation & Playstation 2 machines. At least it's kind of saying "It's like having a PS2, but much less powerful".

    Yes, the comparison doesn't make sense to those of us familiar with these technologies, but it might make some sense to most consumers.

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  3. OH MY GOD IS THE VIRTUAL BOY CANCLED?!?!?!?!??! by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

    OH JESUS SAVE US. Nintendo is stopping its development of the VirtualBoy to create this gameboy advance? What the hell?!?!?!? VirtualBoy has only been out for 4 years and now its being cancled??!?!?!??!?!?!

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    1. Re:OH MY GOD IS THE VIRTUAL BOY CANCLED?!?!?!?!??! by schtum · · Score: 1

      can someone please mod this "-1, gullible"?
      "-1, humorless" will work as well.

    2. Re:OH MY GOD IS THE VIRTUAL BOY CANCLED?!?!?!?!??! by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 1
      Please tell me that you are only kidding...

      The VirtualBoy has been out of production for at least three years now, if not longer. Why do you think I got mine for only thirty bucks (including 5 games) brand new where I worked. They didn't allow discounts on clearance items either. And before the items went onto the bargain racks, they didn't even exist in the store I worked (actually when it first came out they did, but the store never restocked because they just didn't move).

      The Virtual Boy was a flop from the get go and Nintendo admittedly doesn't even like to acknowledge that the Virtual Boy ever existed on retail shelves.

  4. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by macshit · · Score: 1
    >> I just hope Nintendo realizes that a large portion of gamers today are adults, and leaves the Pokemon crap off of this system. <<

    I'm confused -- how does the availability of Pokemon on the system affect those who don't want to play it? The gameboy, at least, has a very wide variety of games available, even if Pokemon is among the most popular.

    Or is this a self-image thing?

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  5. Battery hog? by kstumpf · · Score: 1
    My only concern with advanced handheld's is battery life. Remember Sega's handheld? That thing could gulp down a couple of AA batteries per hour. That got expensive.

    I liked the plain old gameboy... used little batteries, and since it was so graphically deficient, the emphasis was on gameplay rather than goofy effects like most modern games, regardless of platform.

    I'll probably buy a gameboy advance for plane trips... but only because it looks ALOT like the SNES, which IMHO was one of the best consoles of all time in terms of game quality.

    LONG LIVE 2D SIDESCROLLERS! :)

    1. Re:Battery hog? by Mastagunna · · Score: 1

      The Battery Life Is Supoed To Be About 15 Hours, Nothing Like My 40 Hours OF the NGPC, But Still Damn Fine, dont ask about the caps, felt dumb

  6. Re:Just a few facts... by interiot · · Score: 2
    And no other non-"GameBoy" handhelds ever really took off

    Seen a top 10 videogames list lately?

    And ever heard the figure "one hundred million"? That's how many game boys have been sold in the last 12 years. Do you know any other console that's sold that well?
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  7. Re:Would it be possible.... by Ranger+Rick · · Score: 1

    the snes emulator (and mame) work on the iPAQ in linux...

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  8. Re:Super Mario Advance == Super Mario 2? by XJoshX · · Score: 1

    Looks like it also has some of the original mario brothers (not SMB1, MB aka that little weird level you can into in SMB3 2p mode) in it. If we're really lucky it may be like mario all-stars or something..

  9. Re:Handheld games are awesome by cyberbob2010 · · Score: 1

    I agree wholeheartedly-tetris, and galaaxia are all there for the taking off the internet if you wanna do something a little more "usefull" with your calculator

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  10. Snake by Chmarr · · Score: 1

    Speaking of the Nokia snake game, I've gotten 1542 as my high score. Anyone beaten that?

  11. Re:The snake game sucks... by Shimmer · · Score: 1

    Would that be the "Los Angeles Bay", then? South Bay is Silicon Valley. The bay in question is San Francisco. It's about 400 miles from LA.

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  12. Re:does anyone play these, besides 5 year olds? by Valdrax · · Score: 3

    Yeah, people who still care about gameplay.

    Some of my favorite games are for the Gameboy. I'm suprised to see how well some of my cartridges (particularly the RPGs with battery saves) have held up over the years. I mean, my "Final Fantasy Legend" cart is still kicking after 10+ years!

    I even bought a Game Boy Pocket last year when I temporarily succumbed to the Pokemon demons. Geez, talk about video game crack! I don't think I've logged more hours (100+) in a single session of any game before. That game is designed to prey upon the weaknesses of obsessive-compulsives.

    Polys are not everything. Gameplay is what brings people back.

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  13. Re:Atari 2600 Handheld by decipher_saint · · Score: 1
    Yes... only if you buy the parts yourself and send them to him, you can't just buy the whole unit (sue me, I'm lazy).

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  14. June 11th... by anotherone · · Score: 1
    Just in time for my birthday.

    now, if only they didn't look like those $5.00 tiger LCD games from back in the day, I'd be happy.

    Also excited about the first new Metroid game in a LONG time... not counting Samus being in Super Smash Bros. Say... Portable SSB... could we be that lucky? Hmm.

    Ohyea, be sure to watch those Japanese commercials about halfway down the page. LOL

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  15. The power of GBA by MSBob · · Score: 1

    Seems to me that there should be enough horsepower in GBA to run Doom or perhaps even Quake1. Is anyone working on a port? Besides how does one go about obtaining a GBA SDK anyway?

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    1. Re:The power of GBA by R2P2 · · Score: 1

      I dunno, Tyrannosaurus Tex for the GBC seems pretty Wolf3D-like, and someone has demo'd a 3D engine for the GBA using the first level of Doom2. So, I wouldn't rule out GBA Doom.

  16. [SOT] Here it comes... by dbretton · · Score: 1
    Well, it's somewhat off-topic, but here goes
    . I don't know about other gamers out there, but I look for a different kind of game for portable play. Something that will let me pass the time away is what works best.

    This is why I (and many others) enjoy things like Tetris so much. You can pick it up and put it down, with no problem.
    This is where the GBA is doing the right thing: bringing back those fun, *nostalgic* games. Those are the enjoyable ones to play when on travel (anyone else enjoy a few rounds of Joust as much as me).

    Here's where the GBA fails, and someone else should pick up the slack:
    1. Autosave. Someone needs to come up with an autosave feature that will let me save the state of my current game, so that I may turn off the machine and resume an hour, week, or month later.
    2. Emulators. For portable games, the most fun ones are the puzzle (e.g. Tetris) and nostalgia games (e.g. Mario, Joust, galaga, etc.). It would be really great if I could play any game from any of the older platforms on my new portable. Ergo, it would need to act as an emulator. Wouldn't it just be the cat's meow if the thing could play games intended for other hw platforms (NeoGeo, Genesis, SNES, GB, etc.)?

    Then again, maybe I'm all alone on this one.

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  17. Re:Silly gamers... by R2P2 · · Score: 1

    SMA is a Mario 2 remake, just like there is a Mario 1 remake for Game Boy Color (which also included "The Lost Levels" AKA the Japanese Mario 2). It'd be nice if they'd just make a GBA version of Mario Allstars instead of porting each game individually.

  18. Super Mario Bro. Advance by snubber1 · · Score: 1

    MAN, SMBA is just mario 2 with a new name. Ask anyone and they will tell you that mario 2 had to be the worst mario ever. To top it off, Nintendo didn't even write mario 2! They bought the game from another company after it was released in japan and changed the graphics to Mario n' friends. This was done because the japanese mario 2 (lost levels in mario all stars) was deemed too hard for us american folk.

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    1. Re:Super Mario Bro. Advance by Mastagunna · · Score: 1

      Mario 2 was a fun game, most people were just scared of the change, Mario 4 aka Super Mario World is a much better game, Mario 3 was better then 2, but it was still a fun game, I love Nintendo, but why did they have to go and kill the NGPC

  19. Re:Super Mario Brothers 3 by -=OmegaMan=- · · Score: 1

    Nintendo wouldn't need Sega for anything Mega Man related, since Mega Man is a Capcom property.

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  20. Re:The snake game sucks... by -=OmegaMan=- · · Score: 1

    My phone has a Breakout clone on it, which is infinitely more entertaining that the snake game. ;)

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  21. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by R2P2 · · Score: 1

    Nintendo probably won't do it; they made one for the original (Spinach green) Game Boy, but haven't made one that will work with the others (they have different power requirements). However, other companies definately *will* make battery packs. There's one for the GBC that is supposed to get 10 hours, like you guesstimated, and it will work with the GBA if Nintendo doesn't redesign the battery compartment, which they probably will.

  22. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by Exatron · · Score: 1
    Umm, this things good enough for first person shooters. It can handle Doom/Duke3d style hybrid 3d/2d engines for one thing. Personally, my favourite feature is the fact that you can plug 4 of them into a gamecube and use that as a server, needing only one cartridge (a feature that I've always wanted in multi-console connecting). Finally you don't need all the kids to play the same damn game to get them together.

    Close, while the GameBoy Advance can connect to the GameCube with a special cable; single cartridge, multi-player games on the GBA don't require the GameCube to act as a server. The system with the cartridge downloads relevant pieces of code to the other systems and acts as the server.

    Still all that, but its only got 4 freaking buttons! And that's only if you count the select and start! I'm sorry, while the dual shock monstrosity of 4 pads and 10 buttons isn't quite needed, they need better then that. I was hoping for a configuration like the one on the SNES (ABXY, LR, sel/strt). Only 2 player used buttons seriously limits gameplay.
    Actually, the GBA has six buttons: Start, Select, A, B, and two shoulder buttons that will presumably be named L and R. It's not quite the number of buttons on the SNES controller, but at least they're there.
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  23. Re:Just a few facts... by G-funk · · Score: 1

    Also, the original Game Boy had an add-on that would do color like this.

    Nope, you're dreaming. You may be thinkking of the super-gameboy, a device you plug into your super nintendo that allows you to play gameboy games, and allowed gameby games to come with 16(iirc) colours, but only when played on the super-gameboy.

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  24. Hmmm, I sense a trend! by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 2

    First, the Xbox, a consumer console.

    The the Xboy, the portable game machine.

    The the Xboz, the arcade cart!

    Or something like that.

    Geek dating!

  25. Re:xboy by cyberbob2010 · · Score: 1

    you didn't miss anything he's just talking crap he heard on some cheapo zine that needed another story to fill it's newsletter

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  26. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by m3000 · · Score: 2

    I just hope Nintendo realizes that a large portion of gamers today are adults, and leaves the Pokemon crap off of this system.

    Sorta off-topic, but maybe this will get some attention since it's fairly high up in the comments. It turns out that maybe Nintendo has heard games pleas and has alllowed a very "adult" game to be released for the N64.

    A few days ago a very anticipated videogame by Rare, a second party to Nintendo, was released: Conker's Bad Fur Day. From the same company that brought you Banjo-Kazooie and Donkey Kong 64, comes one of the most hilarious and "mature" games ever released. And on the Nintendo 64 platform too, which is known for its image of being "kiddie". Could it be, a very adult game on the "kiddie" system? Nintendo was still Nintendo however, as the official Conker BFD website attests, with it's multiple "MATURE" warning signs, and Nintendo only marketing the game so as to make sure it is pretty much only seen by people who are over 17; ie putting ads in Playboy and Maxim but not their own Nintendo Power, who won't even review it since it's read mainly be the 12-17 crowd. But the fact that Nintendo is letting this game be released on their system by one of their favorite developers shows that Nintendo isn't as tight-assed as everyone makes them out to be.

    Anyways, it got a 9.9 from IGN and mainly I just wanted to point out that Nintendo (or at least one of hteir developers) can make games for adults too. Besides, have you ever played Pokemon? It's a damn good game, even if you are an adult.

  27. Re:It is NOT a handheld NES ... by R2P2 · · Score: 1

    Actually, not to nitpick, but the GBA can't display 65536 colors, simply because it hasn't got that many pixels. According to this FAQ the screen is 240 x 160 and can display 32k colors. It also says the processor is 16Mhz and 32-bit, while (I think) the SNES was 16-bit.

  28. Re:Nintendo titles support 4 players with 1 cartri by ShavenGoat · · Score: 1

    You are right, it did require every player to have a cart. In the originial design from EYPX called "Handy", did have support for 1 cart multiplayer though.

    They probably dropped this feature to save money on units AND to make more money on carts.

    Too bad Atari is dead... (well, Atari corp. anyway).

  29. "Outgrown" the Game Boy? by dstone · · Score: 1

    I think I've outgrown the Gameboy

    That's ironic, because I find portable game platforms more and more appealing as I get older. I just can't be bothered to go home and play a tethered console or PC game when the urge hits. But I can take my portables (Palm, Game Boy, phone, etc.) with me to the office, on business trips, etc.

    I have less leisure time at home for games now than I did when I was a kid, but I love games almost as much. Bring on the portables!

  30. Re:Hopefully... by cyberbob2010 · · Score: 1

    that's garbage, the Neo Geo pocket had bust a move AND wasn't just a fighter based system- it WAS QUITE literaly the King of Fighters because as I remember it- the game (king of fighter) was able to hook up to the Dreamcast (also very KoOl) gatta love SNK and Sega!!, c-bob

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  31. outgrown the gameboy?! by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 1

    You're gonna have to back up those words with nuclear weapons!!!

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  32. Re:It is NOT a handheld NES ... by R2P2 · · Score: 1

    Oh, and in case you were wondering, the extra 8-bit CISC CPU that is mentioned there is the GBC processor. Instead of having the Game Boy Advance emulate the old Game Boys for compatability, they're just including the Game Boy Color to run the old games.

  33. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by Ranger+Rick · · Score: 1

    Don't knock it if you haven't tried it.

    Despite the fact that I despise Pokemon as a "suck the kids in" marketing phenomenon, the Pokemon gameboy games are some of the best ever created.

    They're *great* games, they just happen to have stupid characters. =)

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  34. Super Mario Brothers 3 by Galvatron · · Score: 1

    Was an NES game... SMB 4, aka Super Mario World, was the first game for the SNES. Just thought I'd clear that up.

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    1. Re:Super Mario Brothers 3 by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      Well, it was released on super-mario allstars with snes-level graphics, if you remember. Very nicely done too.... Hmm, if sega's getting out of the console industry, I hope they can get some genesis titles too, like Sonic and the Megaman - Wily Wars remake (Meg 1-3 with new gfx and sound).

  35. Re:The snake game sucks... by teal_ · · Score: 1

    > I'm looking for a good Gyro place in the South >Bay area. If you know of one, please let me know.

    Try Yiassoo on De Anza Blvd in Cupertino.

  36. The snake game sucks... by Skyshadow · · Score: 3
    The snake game sucks, but comes in really handy when you go to the first night of a movie, get there :45 early and have to hold your seats.

    Still, I'd rather play Tetris.

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    1. Re:The snake game sucks... by great+throwdini · · Score: 4
      Might I suggest a book. Very usefull time killer.

      Might I suggest a dictionary. Very useful book.

    2. Re:The snake game sucks... by phranking · · Score: 1

      Hence the qualifier "might." There's a "South Bay" in LA as well.

    3. Re:The snake game sucks... by mr+bushley · · Score: 1

      right, its so dark when the lights are on before the movie

    4. Re:The snake game sucks... by G-funk · · Score: 1

      Except books tend to be a little harder to use than a mobile phone game in a dark cinema, wouldn't you agree?


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    5. Re:The snake game sucks... by sludg-o · · Score: 3

      The snake game is also a good time killer when you've got too much freeway in front of you. Good thing you can play it 1-handed or I'd have to steer with my knees.

    6. Re:The snake game sucks... by SquadBoy · · Score: 5

      Might I suggest a book. Very usefull time killer. :)

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    7. Re:The snake game sucks... by phranking · · Score: 1

      From his comment about the gyro place in the South Bay, that might mean that he's seeing movies in LA, which means that you can wait *4* weeks, and you'll still have to hang out to hold onto decent seats :P

      -f

  37. Handheld games are awesome by ibpooks · · Score: 5

    Not just cell games though. My collection of TI-85 games was the only thing that kept me from stabbing myself in the eye with a pencil during high school math class.

    1. Re:Handheld games are awesome by Ig0r · · Score: 1

      Ahh! You are correct. It was a 9 that looked just like a g.

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    2. Re:Handheld games are awesome by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 1
      Not just cell games though. My collection of TI-85 games was the only thing that kept me from stabbing myself in the eye with a pencil during high school math class.

      I teach part time and let me tell you, there's nothing more infuriating than seeing a student out there in the classroom playing his stinking cell phone while I'm lecturing.

      I think I'd rather you had stabbed yourself in the eye, or at least had the decency to get out of the classroom.



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    3. Re:Handheld games are awesome by ibpooks · · Score: 1

      If they would have left me leave, I would have been more than happy to. I asked if I could just take the exams and spend the rest of the time in the library. Unfortunately, most teachers (or probably administrators) think that attendence equals learning.

    4. Re:Handheld games are awesome by Ig0r · · Score: 2

      Or on the super-advanced scientific calculators you could write interesting phrases such as the infamous "DEADBEEF" or even "CABBAGE".

      :)

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  38. Is it the best thing since slim servers? or XBox? by WillSeattle · · Score: 2

    Hmm. You gotta admit it's a cute little devil, even with the awkward name of Game Boy Advance, but let's think about the real competition.

    First, does it make the xBox look like a MSFT kludge? Yup. But that wasn't hard.

    Second, does it have primo addictive games and interactivity? Yup. But no killer carts yet.

    Third, is it priced well? Hmmm. I'm not so sure of that.

    When all is said and done, Nintendo has a good track record of actually making money on the box, as well as the games, so even if it has a few lame titles (ever played MIB on the Color Game Boy? yuck ...) it only needs two or three killer addictive games that encourage player to player action and it will do well.

    Of course, I'm biased, since I own NTDOY ADRs and both my son and I have color game boys (but I don't use the cheats ...).

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  39. I'm quite glad; GBA is long overdue by PsionicMan · · Score: 4
    I've owned every US-marketed version of the gameboy (stupid cosmetic changes (like pokemon shells) not included, I mean hardware changes):
    * The original, with the screen of spinach green.
    * The "Pocket", with a gray screen and much improved size (smaller) and battery life (longer).
    * The "Color", with which the main change was the addition of color.

    In addition to these, I own a Sega Nomad--this is a portable Genesis with a backlit screen and horrible battery consumption--and a Neo Geo Pocket Color.

    Out of all of these systems, I like the NGPC the best. The Nomad's 2-hour battery life condemned it from the start, even if you can play Toejam & Earl on vacation. The Game Boy, Game Boy Pocket, and Game Boy Color were nice when they were all I had, but I honestly haven't played any of them since I got my NGPC. The main advantages it had was it's better screen (both in size and colors available IIRC... I also seem to remember it having a little bit more in the CPU department, but I'm not sure). That, combined with one of the overall highest-quality software lineups around made it my favorite from the first time I picked it up.

    However, the almost complete and utter lack of 3rd party support drove it (And SNK as a company) out of the picture.

    All of this brings me to my point, which is incidentally the only thing so far that will address the article at hand.

    The GBA is going to be like having these three general platforms I've described rolled into one. It will have:
    * The Gameboy's userbase and marketing power/brand recognition, plus a lot of software, much of it decent.
    * The Nomad's whole "play your console games on the go" thing. GBA will be able to have many SNES games ported to it, with F-Zero and Super Mario Kart already done/being worked on.
    * What the GBC looked like next to the NGPC, the NGPC will next to the GBA. It's sort of the next level of handheld graphics.[1] So it's similar in that respect to the NGPC. Plus, I expect much quality software from Nintendo for this (like SNK and the NGPC.... ever played SNK vs Capcom: MotM? Best handheld fighter, ever.)

    The current version of GB, Game Boy Color, is really just a Game Boy done up with color as the name implies. Sure, it has a little more horsepower etc, but it's not that much of an improvement.

    Nintendo has essentially stuck with the same handheld for around a decade or more (assuming that my memory serves me right and the GB was a mid- to late-eighties release). The GBA brings a long overdue update to Nintendo's handheld juggernaut.[2]

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  40. Re:Forget Gameboy... by anotherone · · Score: 1
    Didn't you read the page? Nintendo's coming out with Cup and Ball Advance!

    Catch a ball, in a cup! In stunning 3D!


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  41. Just a few facts... by interiot · · Score: 2
    Just a few corrections. Game Boy Color was released 3 years ago, and it indeed had color before the Game Boy Advance.

    Some differences are... GBA has a 32 bit processor, and it's turned sideways so you hold it much like a PS/DC/N64 controller.

    A few refinements. Plus backwards compatibility with an ever-growing library of games makes it a winner for me.
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    1. Re:Just a few facts... by Will+The+Real+Bruce · · Score: 2

      Game Boy Color isn't really that new; it's just a few hacks on top of the aging Game Boy. Also, the original Game Boy had an add-on that would do color like this.

      And no other non-"GameBoy" handhelds ever really took off, so I can see how someone would see this as the first real Advance in handhelds in 10 years.

      Sad, but true.

    2. Re:Just a few facts... by pixel_bc · · Score: 1
      > Do you know any other console that's sold that well?

      Erm, the Playstation1 has towards 80 or 90 million units sold.

    3. Re:Just a few facts... by Strongtium90 · · Score: 1
      allowed gameby games to come with 16(iirc) colours, but only when played on the super-gameboy

      If the game supported Super Gameboy it could show around 16. If it was pre-super gameboy however, it could only show 4 colors for the sprites and another 4 colors for the backgrounds.

    4. Re:Just a few facts... by stump · · Score: 1

      The original GameBoy add-on that you talk about adding color was the Super GameBoy. It was basically a cartridge for the Super NES that allowed you to play GameBoy games...with pseudo-color. You could pick a color palette that matched your game. Not great, but not terrible either.

      The GameBoy Color does the same exact things for older games only. Newer games make native use of the GBC's larger color palette. Not a hack at all.

      It's a decent system. Play some games on it before dismissing it so easily.

  42. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 1

    I just hope Nintendo realizes that a large portion of gamers today are adults, and leaves the Pokemon crap off of this system.

    You just KNOW Nintendo will dive right in with a Pokemon game at launch, or closely afterwards. I just hope 3rd parties jump on board for this system (which so far seems to be happening) more than they did for Nintendo's N64 console. Capcom appears to be porting their popular titles (Super Street Fighter II is listed as one of the games in development for the GBA), and I believe I saw some Konami titles further up on Nintendo's games list.

    Will I buy one though-- **absolutely**. $99 is a little much (Japan is getting it for around $82), but it's still reasonable and well, I can't help it, I love the idea of playing 4-player Mario Kart Advance. =)

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  43. Re:Silly gamers... by pb · · Score: 1

    Yeah, Mario Allstars was awesome, and that was an SNES title, too.

    Mario 2 was dumb, though; Nintendo needed a new US Mario game, so they bought some silly Arabian game and changed the sprites and whatnot. Hence, the preponderance of deserts and carpets.

    But you probably were reading Nintendo Power back then too, so I'll assume you knew that. :)
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  44. Re:I think it is quite funny by -=OmegaMan=- · · Score: 1
    A) The Game Boy Advance WILL connect to the upcoming GameCube

    B) You have seen this before. The NeoGeo Pocket could connect to the Dreamcast via a special serial cable.

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  45. Re:Game programmers start on TI-85 by Aggrazel · · Score: 1

    Posers.

    I wrote a poker game with a rudimentary AI (granted it sucked) on a Casio 7700G. Now that was some limited hardware.

    ;)

  46. But MSFT is doing an xBoy for the xBox by WillSeattle · · Score: 1

    There will be no shortage of people who play their GBA on the train or bus on their home to where an Xbox is waiting for big screen fun.

    But MSFT is working on an xBoy to compete with GBA - which they'll probably lose money at, since that's their style.

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  47. Re:GBA will be great by donglekey · · Score: 1

    First of all, this should get you started with development

    Bomberman? oh yeah! that would make such a fun game to play multiplayer. I don't think I ever had the priveledge more than a few times to play a good bomberman game with more than two people, but it is so sweet. This has so much potential.

  48. Original gangsta GameBoy by dePi · · Score: 1

    I may be wrong because I'm no video game expert but wasn't GameBoy pretty much dead until Pokemon came along? And if so, is this new GameBoy coming out with a whole line Pokemon games so it doesn't die a horrible and flaming death.

  49. Dodge Ball Advance!!! by XJoshX · · Score: 1

    Nothing could be more 1337 than DODGE BALL ADVANCE!!!! Screw the PS2, I'm buying that!!!

    1. Re:Dodge Ball Advance!!! by donglekey · · Score: 1

      hell yeah, super doge ball was awsome for nintendo. I played it on emulation and it was just as good as I remember.

  50. Re:Silly gamers... by k_187 · · Score: 1

    Now, a handheld NES... THAT would be worthwhile.

    Actually the Game Boy Color was more or less a portable NES, actually CGB had a little more power, but it was basically the same thing with a different screen so games wouldn't run verbatum. The Game Boy Advance is pretty much a SNES again with a different screen. Developers have been saying that its more or less a SNES with a SuperFX chip (Star Fox, Stunt Race FX, Yoshi's Island).

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  51. Re:I think it is quite funny by Spaseboy · · Score: 1
    "My neice, back in Scotland, has many games for her gameboy, and she plays it more often than she ever plays on playstations and computers and so on. I think it shows how it doesn't matter what the game looks like on a handheld, as long as it is well designed."

    Which illustrates exactly why girls/women are more likely to have a Gameboy than a Playstation. Women are not as stimulated visually as men are. Girls are crazy about Pokemon because it emphasises gameplay and collecting, as well as cute monsters. Most games for "NexGen" game systems bore me after a day or two because it's the same thing over and over with different visuals. Which I suppose is why RPG's have done so well lately, because there's somewhat of a story to entertain you since the gameplay is so lame. Hopefully Phantasy Star Online will pave the way for better &quot'NexGen" games.

    I myself am waiting for Nintendo to re-release or make a sequel to "Earthtbound" for Gameboy Advance. I think it was probably the most entertaining RPG game ever: a girl and three boys save the world with baseball bats and frying pans :)

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  52. Re:So it it compatible w GB Color and GB Classic? by strangel · · Score: 1

    Yes, actually it is backwards compatible with almost all existing GB and GBC games...though they haven't said which games will have problems. That's why I'm buying it...I still have the original white GameBoy, screw the pocket and color....Advance is finally a worthy upgrade!

  53. Re:Who the hell wrote that CNN article? by jayhawk88 · · Score: 1

    I suppose your right, but still you gotta love the tone of the sentence. Playstation 2 has "dazzling graphics, with a powerful 128-bit processor", while the Gameboy is merely "32-bit", and only offers the "basics".

    I guarentee someone at Nintendo is shitting bricks over that line alone.

  54. Neo Geo Pocket by Kenshin · · Score: 1

    You're completely forgetting the Neo Geo Pocket. ...that's the problem though. It was a completely awesome handheld game system, with an excellent selection of games, but it got completely mowed over by Pokemon. Since it didn't have Pokemon, and SNK USA didn't have the ad dollars, nobody knew, or cared, about it. Real shame, since it had incredible potential. I've still got mine, but it's hard to find games for now after SNK pulled everything off the north american market without any warning.

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  55. Re:does anyone play these, besides 5 year olds? by DrCode · · Score: 1
    Sure. I recently spent many hours playing "Ultima - Runes of Virtue" on a GB during a couple long plane flights, and I'm many times 5 years old.

    It is kind of a pain getting through airport security with one, though. They either want to X-ray it, or turn it on to see if it's really just a game!

  56. Re:Directional Pad? by donglekey · · Score: 1

    that would really fun trying to keep it in your pocket, you might be able to make a screw in one, but you would still have to keep track of it, easy for us, difficult for kids

  57. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by collar · · Score: 1

    I just hope Nintendo realizes that a large portion of gamers today are adults, and leaves the Pokemon crap off of this system

    Have you ever played a pokemon game? Regardless of what you think of the multi zillion dollar pokemon marketing empire, the gameboy games are actually quite good jap RPG's.

  58. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by emir · · Score: 1

    i bought a gameboy color last fall, it uses 2 AA batteries. nintendo says that those should last around 16 hours but i was able to play (super mario bross :) around 20 hours before batteries were exhausted. so i guess gb advance is not going to be any worse than gb color

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  59. Re:I think it is quite funny by musiholic · · Score: 1
    ...I think your "followers" posts as you are better than your posts as yourself.

    Anyway, similarly, my nieces and nephews have been playing game boy games for years, and the old game boys get handed down to the younger ones as the elder cousins get newer systems.

    As far as this thing being big only because it will be color, well... the color game boy is already in color, so that eliminates that one... I do believe the point is that this new handheld will be a bit more powerful, have a slightly different design, and still be able to play the old game boy games (a big plus, in my book anyway).

    However, they could easily incorporate a feature that I swear I've seen done at one point, but I may have dreamt it: make a way to connect the hand-held game device to the larger console. Given a little time and creativity, there could be a lot of cool things that could be done with a system that was capable of doing that.

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  60. Re:Great 80's technology by k_187 · · Score: 1

    I may be remembering incorrectly but didn't Doom use a lot of Sprites? And Actually Doom came out for the SNES. one that by your thinking(at least it seems correct me if I'm wrong) has less power than the AGB. Look at the specs, and games were sprite based hella earlier than Polygons showed up on the scene.

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  61. Where's the support for VB? by Rudeboy777 · · Score: 1

    What about support for Virtual Boy games?! This is Nintendo's chance to get back the fans it alienated by cancelling the much-maligned system. Just look at the Hordes clamouring to have it brought back (well, come to think of it, all these people have probably gone blind by now, never mind...)

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  62. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by R2P2 · · Score: 1

    The problem with the Game Gear was that it had a backlit screen sucking up the batteries; all of the Game Boys need external lighting. The GBC runs for 20-25 hours on 2 AAs and I think the GBA is supposed to be the same.

  63. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by jerkface · · Score: 1

    AA batteries, up to 15 hours (that's probably a very optimistic estimate, though). Not bad, considering that it's better than the SNES in almost every way, except for having fewer buttons and lower resolution. See this GBA FAQ for more details.

  64. Stop your flaming by euroderf · · Score: 3
    Listen, I have been on /. for a long long time, and the thing that affected it badly was the appearance of people like you. Don't attack her just because you disagree with her - that is the road to a hellish monoculture here on /.

    Effectively, it is the first new one in a long time. Sure, there were others. The fact that they did not topple the gameboy, despite being technically better, if anything backs up her point.

    The colour gameboy is pretyty much identical to the original gameboy, and very few games were released supporting the miserable advance in features. This also backs her point up.

    In addition, people can post whatever they like here. If you want high standards of evidence and so on, /. is not the place to look. It is a discussion site, and people can damn well give family anecdotes if they like.

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      > The colour gameboy is pretyty much identical to
      > the original gameboy, and very few games were
      > released supporting the miserable advance in
      > features.

      This is bullshit. For one thing, the GBC has a processor with double the clock speed of the original Gameboy. There are loads of other significant enhancements (color not the least of these).

    2. Re:Stop your flaming by suraklin · · Score: 1

      ...and very few games were released supporting the miserable advance in features

      Bullshit. Pretty much every game released since the GBC came out is color. And color without a battery sucking backlight is a Good Thing TM.

    3. Re:Stop your flaming by toriver · · Score: 1
      Effectively, it is the first new one in a long time. Sure, there were others. The fact that they did not topple the gameboy, despite being technically better, if anything backs up her point.

      So, since no Volkswagen model has toppled the Beetle means Volkswagen never produced newer models? That the NeoGeo Pocket Color didn't sell as much as the GameBoy series (which largely survived due to Pokémon) doesn't mean it wasn't "a new system".

      very few games were released supporting the miserable advance in features

      This is so utter bullshit (just visit a well-stocked GBC-selling game store) that if I had moderator points you'd be swinning at Troll level. Since I don't, I post this instead.

  65. Re:Silly gamers... by interiot · · Score: 2
    It basically IS a handheld NES.

    Yes, the screenshots look crappy. Gimme a break, the thing includes a display with it, but costs much less than consoles that don't have displays. The display is powered batteries, yet needs to run 10-15 hours per charge. Thus, the display is going to be very contrained. You can't really compare it to tethered consoles.

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  66. Re:Silly gamers... by R2P2 · · Score: 1

    You left out the best part -- they needed a new US Mario game because they thought their new Japanese one was too hard for Americans :P

  67. Re:Silly gamers... by adamcole · · Score: 1

    Now, a handheld NES... THAT would be worthwhile

    There is a handheld NES. It's called the Game Axe. It runs about 100 bucks (plus import costs) to get one. It actually uses Famicom and NES (with a converter)carts. Now I don't know how good the quality is but they do exist.

  68. Re:Directional Pad? by Mastagunna · · Score: 1

    It is quite possible to make a good one, Neo Geo Pocket has one, and it worked for all types of games, but it was not analog, but the design was there, if you implement a similair style, but with analog you could have a winner, good for all types of games. The coolest feature of the joypad, was for PacMan you could install a motion limiter that made it only move in 4 directions, just like the arcade. Why Why did it have to Die

  69. Re:Atari clone alert by k_187 · · Score: 1

    the Lynx didn't have shoulder buttons.

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  70. For big kids by kirkb · · Score: 1

    The best thing about having a child in the house is that you can buy things like gameboys, RC trucks, etc and claim that it's for them. My recent TiVo and upcoming new PC will blow my toy budget for year, but my son will be turning 4 in June, so it looks like I will be getting a Gameboy Advance for me^H^H him.

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  71. That means 4 pokemon players can explore! by WillSeattle · · Score: 2

    Yeah, I was thinking about that a bit after my first post - that is going to be really cool for kids, which is why Pokemon is such a deal - it encourages trades and fights and mail being sent from one player to another.

    And, get this, only one of the four players needs a cartridge. So, if Ian and Maria and Sasha and Jon are all into the same game, and only Ian's parents shelled out for the new Purple version, the whole gang can play.

    This is super nifty - addictive on a social level. It also means you can get a Powerpuff Girls group, with one player for each Powerpuff Girl ("I'm Bubbles! No, I'm Bubbles; you're MoJo JoJo this time!") and one can be the bad guy.

    Gonna rock!

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  72. Game programmers start on TI-85 by Ted+V · · Score: 2

    My friend and I spent time programming games on the TI-85. The coolest game my friend wrote (who now works on Madden 2001) was Arkanoid. But this wasn't just any arkanoid game... It had 3 different kinds of blocks, a level editor, and it even stored the levels in a compressed vector so you didn't run out of memory. I spent much time on that... Very cool. There was also a pretty solid poker program that either he or I wrote (I can't remember who). We never uploaded them to the net, but we gave them to everyone at our Highschool, so who knows where the games have ended up. :)

    -Ted

  73. Re:is it just me? by Zach+Baker · · Score: 2

    Well, we all laughed at the "fruity" name of the Dreamcast, and assumed they'd have a different name for America and Europe. But that was about the time that the home office in Japan was really putting their foot down, and they thought it was a great name to have worldwide, so Dreamcast it was. But after you hear/see it a couple hundred times, you really don't notice any more.

  74. Re:Awesome! by Zach+Baker · · Score: 2

    What, you didn't like the Game Boy Color one?

  75. does this remind anyone of the game.com? by anotherone · · Score: 1
    It was a system a few years ago, sold by I forgot who. But it looked a lot like this thing, and it had some similar features- it could connect to the internet and such. I wonder if...

    nah.


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    1. Re:does this remind anyone of the game.com? by Mike+the+Mac+Geek · · Score: 1

      Game.Com Made by Tiger. I still have mine. Great system. Two cardtridge ports, touch screen, etc. VEry nice. Should have done better.

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    2. Re:does this remind anyone of the game.com? by anotherone · · Score: 1

      TIGER! Thank you. I wanted one so much... sigh. I just remember it had Duke Nukem 3D on it, that would have been so cool.

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  76. Atari clone alert by Voxol · · Score: 1

    Doesn't it look just like a white Lynx?

    Maybe a bit thinner and smaller, but I think there's a definite resembelence in the layout

  77. NO! I DON'T WANT AN UPDATED MARIO 3!!! by piku · · Score: 1

    The graphics in Mario 3 were perfect. PERFECT. Nothing at all was wrong with them. Why the hell would they go and fuck them up for the GameBoy Advance? They did it with the All-Stars version and it blew ass. I didn't even feel like I was playing Mario 3, just some cheap clone that was posted on the net and looked like it was made by a bunch of amateurs as a high school graduation project.

    Its like fixing the Mona Lisa... please Nintendo: DON'T FUCK WITH PERFECTION.

    1. Re:NO! I DON'T WANT AN UPDATED MARIO 3!!! by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 1

      Actually it's a lie-- it's not an updated Mario 3, it's an updated Super Mario Mario 2 (the lame filler one that had weird vegetable picking crap). I personally would rather that they had released a game that had the same look and feel as Super Mario World (Super Mario 4), especially since the hardware on this thing could have easily done it.

      Oh well, maybe their next Mario game on the GBA will take advantage of that-- or mebbe Zelda on this thing will look like A Link To The Past did on the SNES.

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    2. Re:NO! I DON'T WANT AN UPDATED MARIO 3!!! by piku · · Score: 1

      No, their doing 3 (and World) along with 2. I'm just surprised they are even bothering with 2... not only is it simply weird, its not even a real Mario game.

  78. Re:does anyone play these, besides 5 year olds? by GunFodder · · Score: 1
    I also have an unhealthy fascination with computer games, but I have a hard time getting my mid tower and 19" monitor onto a plane, or into a car, or on the crapper. I considered buying a Game Boy Color for a recent plane trip but I couldn't muster the courage to buy a "toy". So instead I have to play Dope Wars on my Palm :)

    I think one of the most important accomplishments of the Playstation was to prove that you could market a console to an "older" crowd and be successful, and I hope that Nintendo gets the hint and caters toward older video game junkies with this new portable.

  79. Super Mario Advance == Super Mario 2? by Bonker · · Score: 2

    If not, it sure looks like it. The levels in the screen shots certainly look familiar, and there are one or two places that definitely came from Super Mario 2 (which wasn't a Mario game in Japan the first time around...)

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  80. But will it have by SquadBoy · · Score: 1

    Tuxracer?

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  81. Metroid Advance? by redgekko · · Score: 1

    Since Nintendo and Retro Studios are dead set on making Metroid 4 a First Person Shooter/Adventure, I would love to see the classic side-scrolling Metroid 3 ported over to the GameBoy Advance or a new Metroid game for Advance based on the classics.

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  82. Atari 2600 Handheld by decipher_saint · · Score: 1
    Back in '92 I would have been interested in (what appears to be) a Super NES tech based hand held. Although I'd still rather buy one of these (if only the guy who makes them was allowed to sell them). Or how about a portable MAME unit?

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    1. Re:Atari 2600 Handheld by Zebbers · · Score: 1

      ummm...why is his whole site about selling them then? He may not be allowed, but he is. :P

  83. Re:Silly gamers... by pb · · Score: 1

    Heh, many ports of Japanese games *are* dumbed down for Americans, like FF2 and FF3.

    But I heard that there wasn't interest in another Mario game so soon after the release of the first one. Not that, as a gamer, I ever believed THAT. :)
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  84. See also: PlayStation 2 by yerricde · · Score: 2

    Yes, the Game Boy Advance console is compatible with almost all official titles that run on Game Boy Pocket and Game Boy Color. There is one title (Workboy) that does not function because it requires a special keyboard that can connect only to the original Game Boy's serial port.

    It accomplishes this the same way the Sega Genesis plays Master System games and the PlayStation 2 plays PlayStation games: it includes a miniaturized version of the previous system, used in native games for I/O processing. It's as if you had a 386 on an ISA bus and an Alpha or PowerPC on a PCI bus on the same machine.

    I'd really like to see a "graphing calculator" attachment for GBC or GBA. That baby would sell because "now you can take your Game Boy console to school and your teacher won't care!"


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  85. Re:I don't think it's fair... by Zach+Baker · · Score: 1

    I guess not, since Nintendo cancelled their long-held "Game Girl" trademark last year.

  86. Snake games and Tetris by yerricde · · Score: 2

    The snake game sucks

    While we're on the topic of Nintendo consoles, you can get a version of the snake game for NES here.

    Still, I'd rather play Tetris.

    Do you want generic falling tetraminoes, or do you want to pay through your no$e for the Tetris brand?


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  87. Tetris was never released for the calcs by yerricde · · Score: 1

    -tetris, and galaaxia are all there for the taking off the internet if you wanna do something a little more "usefull" with your calculator

    It may have been a falling tetramino game, but it wasn't Tetris, as that's a trademark of The Tetris Company LLC.


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  88. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by geomcbay · · Score: 1
    Uh, the Gameboy is the most popular gaming system ever in the history of gaming systems, portable or not in terms of numbers sold.

    Why would Nintendo change their strategy on which types of game to offer it now? Pokemon, despite how you may feel about it, brought Nintendo multiple billions of dollars over the past few years and helped them offset the losses they suffered from the N64 debacle. If not for Pokemon, Nintendo would be just as fucked as Sega is right now...So I ask again, why is it they should abandon it?

  89. Wow, SNES flashback! by Zach+Baker · · Score: 2
    I wasn't expecting so many games from the SNES era, although I guess it's only natural. Well, it's great that there's apparently a system starting where the SNES left off. And apparently they're even making games that aren't based off of PlayStation games or licensed characters! Hooray!

    Possible slogan: "It's like 1991 again... in your pants!"

  90. More eye-stabbing by SkulkCU · · Score: 1


    This is, quite simply, the most exciting screenshot I've ever seen.

    Wow.

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  91. Re:Great 80's technology by Dr.+Merkw�rdigliebe · · Score: 1

    Hell, DOOM was ported to the friggin' 16-bit SNES, I don't see why they couldn't technically do a GBA port.

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  92. Re:xboy by Judas96' · · Score: 1

    I don't mean to insinuate that this is a troll, but is there any chance somebody could post the relevent link to the msnbc article on this? I searched for "xboy" and came up with nothing. Also a brief browsing of the xbox articles themselves didn't show any mention of this system. Like I said, my search was brief so I may have just missed it, but it would be much easier to take this article at face value if it had the article it apparently quotes linked url-wise. My apologies if I did miss something blatently obvious. If I did point it out, as I would like to see the original article. Heck, maybe this is supposed to be funny and I am just lacking in sense of humour today...

  93. Re:Silly gamers... by Will+The+Real+Bruce · · Score: 2

    Well, I'd play it if it ran my NES games. Even if they had to re-release them. I guess that'll be the first real hacking project for the GBA: run NES games. :)

    I thought the screenshot looked pretty good, actually. But I don't remember saying anything as to the quality of the video display. I was objecting to the fact that they chose to remake "Mario 2", the worst Mario game for the NES. If they actually remade Mario 3, as the story submitter implied, that would be awesome.

    And yes, I buy systems because its games are fun to play. That's why I owned a C64, an Atari 7800, and an NES. Sadly, I have owned no other good gaming systems besides a PC. I think an SNES or a Playstation might have been worthwhile, but that's about it. Oh, and my g/f has a Vectrex, and that's really fun too. :)

  94. pot. kettle. black. by juuri · · Score: 1

    Effectively it is the first new one in a longtime? No it isn't. Not even close. Who says the GBA will topple the GB? Only Nintendo because they will stop making the GB.

    What point did "it" make? "It" didn't make any points... yet you are clamoring to defend it and calling me elitist? elitist for calling out, on a known self moderator and troll?

    Your type, those who defend people because of gender (you sure wouldn't have defended a guy like this) disgust me. Besides this is a discussion site... I can post whatever I like.

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    1. Re:pot. kettle. black. by B14ckH013Sur4 · · Score: 1

      I realize that both of your UIDs are under five digits; but I must interject. She can post whatever she likes here, as can you sir. The problem with your response, however, is that it's attacking someone who is adding to the discussion in a positive way. If your problem is that she is somehow wasting your time by not supplying what you wanted to read, well then you certainly wasted a hell of a lot more by responding. Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to simply scroll through it?
      If your problem is that she gets modded-up simply because she's female, well, that's not her fault, it's the moderators. They tend to be nice to the women, as there are very few around here. I see no evidence that she mods herself up.
      Just get over it...
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  95. Re:Silly gamers... by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 1

    Actually I always thought the Gameboy Color looked more like a portable NES, and the Gameboy Advance looked more like a portable SNES (albeit with smaller screen and lower resolution-- it's got the mode-7 type scaling/rotating features though!).

    I just hope Capcom's Super Street Fighter II looks good on this small of a screen. =)

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  96. Re:Forget Gameboy... by steeef · · Score: 1

    another example of how you can apply simpsons quotes to just about anything

  97. Re:Super Mario 3?? by piku · · Score: 1

    And it blew ass because they fucked with the graphics.

  98. Re:Hopefully... by B00yah · · Score: 1

    NGPC was released with a couple of puzzle games, and, of course, Bust a Move, featuring Bubble Bobble's favorite dinosaurs...

  99. Directional Pad? by Scorchmon · · Score: 1

    Why did Nintendo choose to go with a classic digital directional pad instead of an analog joystick? I thought with the move by all the latest consoles to go with analog sticks, Nintendo would do the same with the GBA. Is the reason due to too much extra CPU usage or something else?

    1. Re:Directional Pad? by m3000 · · Score: 1

      I think I'd rather have a directional pad rather than analog control stick in a 2D game, which is what the GBA will mainly be used for. Also you would have to make the joystick really short and squatty if you didn't want it to get snapped everytime someone put it in their pocket.

  100. Awesome! by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

    Maybe Apogee can even be convinced to do a REAL Duke Nukem game again!

  101. I'm gonna buy it. by UltraBot2K1 · · Score: 2
    Due to the graphical limitations of the hardware, the only way it'll survive is by the strength of it's games. Hopefully, designers will once again be forced to design for playability instead of just trying to cram the flashiest graphics possible into a cart. This may be just what we need to bring back a revival of old-school quality games and get rid of those crappy first-person-shooters.

    I just hope Nintendo realizes that a large portion of gamers today are adults, and leaves the Pokemon crap off of this system.

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    1. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      Umm, this things good enough for first person shooters. It can handle Doom/Duke3d style hybrid 3d/2d engines for one thing. Personally, my favourite feature is the fact that you can plug 4 of them into a gamecube and use that as a server, needing only one cartridge (a feature that I've always wanted in multi-console connecting). Finally you don't need all the kids to play the same damn game to get them together.

      Not just that, but it offers some new possibilities. For one thing, a lan party you can fit in a brief-case (I hope you don't need to plug the cube into the TV). Just plug the cube into a wall-socket and plug in the boys into that. It even gets away from the annoying problem of being able to see your opponents screen, which cripples a lot of gameplay. Multplayer reak-time strategy games can finally come to console-parties!

      Still all that, but its only got 4 freaking buttons! And that's only if you count the select and start! I'm sorry, while the dual shock monstrosity of 4 pads and 10 buttons isn't quite needed, they need better then that. I was hoping for a configuration like the one on the SNES (ABXY, LR, sel/strt). Only 2 player used buttons seriously limits gameplay.

    2. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by Rura+Penthe · · Score: 1

      The "graphical limitations" aren't really that bad. Sure it's no 3D powerhouse, but it is powerful enough for basically perfect ports of SNES games, as well as enhancements of NES games. Imagine Donkey Kong Country (Rare's finest hour IMHO) in perfect form on a handheld. As for Pokemon, it doesn't hurt you if Pokemon is on the system, just don't buy it. Pokemon hurts no one except the anti-fan.

    3. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by NetCurl · · Score: 1

      Is it possible that Nintendo would devise a battery pack, that would be rechargable. That way you could get like 10 hours out of it, and then recharge it. Just food for thought...

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    4. Re:I'm gonna buy it. by UltraBot2K1 · · Score: 1

      Sorry, one more thought. I just read the CNN article, and the screen on that thing looks pretty big. If I recall, the battery life on the Sega Game Gear was abyssmal. Almost to the point of making the Game Gear not worth playing without access to AC power. Something along the lines of 2-3 hours on 6 AA batteries. Does anyone know what has Nintendo done to improve upon battery life? What kind of batterys does the GB Advance use?

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  102. Re:CNN/AP do your research buttwipes! by BiOFH · · Score: 1

    And the GameBoy Color (which is what the grossly under-researched article was trying to compare) did not have 256 colors... it had 32,000 possible but only 56 (yer about 200 short AP, pay up) at once. The new machine can do 511 in gameplay (not 32,000 - that's only for on static images... and it's 32,768).

    Get a ******** clue AP (and CNN). Hire writers who can ******* read. All of this is BLATANTLY spelled out on the gameboy site.

    And what IS up with that Playstation comparison? What's next? Cessna vs. the Boeing 777? Wheelbarrows vs. dump trucks?

    And as for "lacking in technology", considering that the computer the reporter used to file the ******* story probably has a 32-bit processor as, well... perhaps he should have used the Playstation 2 !

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  103. Super Mario 3?? by FortKnox · · Score: 1

    Oh, GBStation.com also has a list of classic SNES and N64 titles that will be released for Game Boy Advance, including Super Mario Bros. 3

    Super Mario 3 is for the 8-bit NES, not the SNES nor the N64. Duh!

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  104. xboy by deran9ed · · Score: 3

    Lets not forget XBoy

    Rumors of Microsoft entering the portable gaming market have been reported in abundance for the past six months. However, when a globally respected news source such as MSNBC reports on such rumors, there's sure to be some substantial evidence to support them.

    According to a report by MSNBC, Microsoft has progressed far enough along in discussions concerning the possibility of the company entering the portable gaming market (the fastest growing sector of the industry), that it has given the project a codename in "Xboy".

    The article suggests that if all goes well with Xbox, Microsoft could enter the portable gaming market in 2002 or 2003, bringing to the table significant technological advances (read: 3D visuals) over Nintendo's upcoming Game Boy Advance, which is scheduled to appear in the US this summer.

    The article is quick to point out, though, that Microsoft's main focus at this point and for the foreseeable future is Xbox. The company understands that it must establish a name for itself in the industry before attempting to enter multiple sectors of the market, and to do so, must make Xbox the system by which all others are judged.

    Chief Xbox Officer, Robbie Bach, told MSNBC, "I'm focused on one thing and one thing only. If I take my eye off the Xbox mission for two seconds, I'll lose. I can think about [portable games] when I have time to think about those things."

    Microsoft's competition in the handheld market, namely Nintendo, could be substantially more difficult to defeat than its main competition for Xbox, Sony.

    Nintendo owns 97% of the portable gaming market and has seen the sector grow from $216 million in 1998 to $618 million in 1999 thanks to the introduction of Pokemon. Figures for 2000 should be even more impressive.

    That kind of increase is one any company would be foolish to ignore, and Microsoft, while focused on Xbox, is surely paying at least a shrapnel of attention to the portable gaming market. It will take more than superior technology to draw the masses to a new handheld, though. We just hope that that "more" isn't comparable to 151 colorful monsters.


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  105. Re:emulation of course! by donglekey · · Score: 2

    I stand corrected by myself. There are actually many Gamboy Advance emulators already out there, in different levels of development, for different platforms, some as hobbies, some by companies, but all I would guess are being used for development right now. This Gamboy Advance Development webpage should definitly be mentioned at this point. I saw someone mention doom and quake, and a reply mention wolfenstein. A Wolfenstein clone already exists actually along with many demos, engines, and development tools. The extra emphasis on multiplayer gaming and the immediate independant developement is making me feel tingly.

  106. Nintendo titles support 4 players with 1 cartridge by z)bandito(_X · · Score: 2

    Using the link cable four players can play Mario Kart Advance, FZero Advance, or Mario Advance in 2, 3, or 4 player modes with just one cartridge. This is a great feature (although its not new; the Atari Lynx supported this feature long ago!)

  107. is it just me? by jCaT · · Score: 3

    or does the name "game boy advance" just scream bad translation? I mean come on, nintendo... couldn't you have come out with a better name?

    1. Re:is it just me? by R2P2 · · Score: 1

      They've already gotten away with "Game Boy Pocket" and "Game Boy Color", and *now* you're complaining? The GBC came out over 2 years ago; try to keep up.

    2. Re:is it just me? by zsazsa · · Score: 1

      I thought PlayStation was a pretty darn fruity name when the thing first came out. And, well.. look how well that one did. :)

      zsazsafrazs

  108. Don't underestimate Game Boy Advance by RayChuang · · Score: 2

    I think a lot of people are going to dismiss Game Boy Advance.

    I think that will be a huge mistake, though. People forget that Nintendo's own software designers are extremely top-notch, and you do have to remember the Game Boy Advance has way more computing power than the the original Nintendo system of the 1980's. In addition, GBA can play current Game Boy games, and can function as a controller for Nintendo's upcoming Gamecube system. In Japan, GBA can also play games over the NTT DoCoMo cellular phone system.

    If Nintendo prices it right, they will sell a LOT of Game Boy Advance units here in the USA.

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  109. Hopefully... by B00yah · · Score: 1

    the success of previous hand-held game systems recently won't foreshadow this release...I myself was a strong supporter of the SNK Noe Geo Color Pocket, and it survived only a month or two in america...several other systems have had the same fate...I believe that unless it comes built in to another appliance (cell phone, PDA...etc..)...it will not get much support...

  110. GBA will be great by hattig · · Score: 3
    I know it isn't going to be the ultimate in hardware gaming platforms ever, but with the great graphics, 240x160 16-bit screen, etc, this is going to make a lot of people happy.

    The 15 hour battery life means it won't be another GameGear or Lynx, where the only way to play it was plugged into the wall. Yeah, very portable. Also making the device backwards compatible with the old gamboy series is a master move, as it means that your investment in portable games will not be wasted ("Take two handhelds into the train?" aka shampoo ads).

    God, I am rambling. Nintendo have always said that they will only release better machines when the market is ready for it, and it can be delivered cheaply. Under $100 is cheap. Look at the cost of a colour Palm IIIc - this has more buttons, 1.5x the screen area, and an expansion port. This has multimedia capabilities (such as MPEG video decoding, great audio, etc). If it had a touchscreen and more RAM it would be the PDA that everyone would want :-).

    The graphics are awesome for a portable device that uses This device will not be playing Quake anytime soon, but Doom is a possibility - albeit with some caveats I am sure. The cartridges can hold either 256Mbits or 512Mbits (32MB or 64MB), which is enough for a portable Doom with all of the WAD files and the like, reduced textures, simplified maps, etc. And with 4 player deathmatch!

    What I want to see is Bomberman - that game was great. ALso that Japanese RPG (SunThingy) looks absolutely awesome, what with those thatched rooves and the like. I don't sound like a 23 year old at the moment do I? I really want to program this device - the VGBA is onlny at version 0.2 though, the dev kits are expensive etc. ARM assembly is the computer equivalent of a long drawn out orgasm, whereas x86 is like a quick wank into a manky tissue and then you get stuff all over the carpet and duvet and stuff.

    I would also like to see a lot of the Amiga classics ported. Alien Breed for one, maybe even Alien Breed 3D - that could run on a bog standard A1200, albeit like Quake III on a S3Virge. This handheld has much more CPU power than the original A1200, nevermind the A500. Other games include New Zealand Story, Addams Family, Sim City, Lionheart, Speedball 2 ... the list goes on and on.

    I think I have talked myself into getting one when they are released over here in dark and distant England. Mario Kart Advance looks like a sure fire buy from here.

    Anyone know where you can find some detailed hardware information about the GBA - not the high level stuff that is on every website, but things like graphics modes, CPU speed, audio functionality, etc?

    1. Re:GBA will be great by hattig · · Score: 2
      Stupid angled bracket... Lets repeat that messed up paragraph...

      The graphics are awesome for a portable device that uses under 0.6W of power, with a 16-20MHz 32-bit CPU. The CPU is much more powerful than the Palms dragonball. You can see the Japanese TV ads online for the GBA, and the graphics are also dead smooth, with parallax scrolling etc in the Mario 2 style game, and the mode 7 style graphics look smoother than the original - still twice the CPU power and 2/3rds the screen area should be helping here.

  111. CNN halucinations by jwachter · · Score: 2
    There's also a CNN article which has a bit more information.

    Did anyone else notice the amusing inaccuracy in the CNN story?

    "But the monitor can now show 32,000 vivid colors, far more than the 256 of the original Game Boy -- a spectacular hit selling more than 100 million worldwide since going on sale 11 years ago."

    I don't know about you, but 11 years ago, my original Game Boy couldn't display any colors.

  112. Chu Chu Rocket supports this too! by piku · · Score: 1

    SEGA = GOD

  113. Speaking of those damned cellphone games... by AFCArchvile · · Score: 1
    March 5, 2001 - Verizon Wireless today announced that Boxerjam, a developer of games for wireless devices, has been selected to provide Mobile WebTM customers with two new games to play on the wireless Internet: Knockout and Dr. Popko.

    So instead of augmenting their maintenance force or their vanishing DSL support centers, they encourage the desk jockeys to play games on their cellphones. What is this new economy coming to?

    (This was spotted on verizoneatspoop.com, which prominently displays the QRPFF perl script.)

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  114. POKEMON!!!! by CSG_SurferDude · · Score: 1

    You know, if they make Pokemon III, I, and millions of other Dads are going to have to buy the little sucker. Rant all you want about Pokemon, but that's what the kids want, and in that market, kids are in the drivers seat!

  115. I don't think it's fair... by albamuth · · Score: 2
    ...that they won't be releasing a Game Girl anytime soon. All those lonely Gaming Boys...

    (but I'm assuming heterosexuality)

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  116. M$ Vaporware by Choron · · Score: 1

    Yeah, which in plain English means you may see that thing in stores in 2 years, if you ever see it. Apparently there are still people on Slashdot unaware of the MS vaporware policy : let's create an imaginary product to focus the attention on us.

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  117. does anyone play these, besides 5 year olds? by Little+Billy+Gates · · Score: 1
    me being a 100% PC whore, I need to see polys dancing around on a 19" screen at high resolutions... but this...? plus, I've seen enough Mario related crap out there in the world, and I need to see no more. heh, but if this thing has tetris... =)

  118. Make it die! by Pedro+Picasso · · Score: 1
    I'm sure you've all noticed that Gameboy is the system that just won't die. People started getting "Tetrisized" and then the same people who chuckled at Sega calling Gameboy's screen "creamed spinach color," were buying Gameboys anyway. It's lasted twice as long as any other major system in terms of viable sales. Sure it's had some upgrades, but c'mon, it's ten years old. This is a testament to what simple fun games and company support will do for a system.

    Random people are even coding their own games for the system in assembler and C. Crazy random people. Always getting into trouble.

    What crazy things do you do to get your flaky Gameboys to work? Post a reply or email the cult.
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  119. id owns! by Malicose · · Score: 1

    I can't wait to fire up the all-new Commander Keen game on this sucker! Todd Hollenshead answered questions about it as well.

  120. I think it is quite funny by Lover's+Arrival,+The · · Score: 3
    that this is the first new handheld games system in almost 10 years now. I think it shows that handheld game systems don't really need to be very powerful, do they?They have very low resolution screens, and are played on the go, in the back seats of cars and such, by children, who aren't interested in how well it looks, only by how well it plays.

    My neice, back in Scotland, has many games for her gameboy, and she plays it more often than she ever plays on playstations and computers and so on. I think it shows how it doesn't matter what the game looks like on a handheld, as long as it is well designed.

    I think the big thing with this will be that it is colour. How can you advance a handheld gaming system any further? I think that the gameboy advance will be around for a long time now.

    My ex boyfriend used to play handheld games a lot when he commuted to work, so I suppose he would have been interested, so it is not just for children. I don't think I would want one though. The only games I ever play are solitaire and minesweeper.

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  121. emulation of course! by donglekey · · Score: 2

    I just thought that not only does this have potential to emulate games from nintendo because of it's architecture ( as I understand it) but this could be the first new system to actually be emulated right out of the box. People have been saying that it is weak (not a problem for me, give me metroid and I don't care) but that means sweet emulation time. If everyone was on the ball, an emulator could be realese before the actual release of the consol. It would be madness!! try before you buy, oh hell yeah!

  122. Would it be possible.... by Andrew_Rhines · · Score: 1

    ...to port over snes games with a (relatively) inexpensive rom-writer. I know that original game boy rom writers can be purchased for around 80...so this couldnt be *too* costly. Of course, I'm not implying this be used for pirating, so much as for simply using non-ported snes games. My understanding is that advanced can more or less emulate snes...so no real porting effort would be involved...

  123. Who the hell wrote that CNN article? by jayhawk88 · · Score: 3

    Compared to the latest offering from rival Sony Corp., PlayStation2, which delivers dazzling three-dimensional images with a powerful 128-bit processor, the 32-bit Game Boy Advance offers just the basics.

    You know what else I heard? Bicycles really can't compare to the power of a Ferrari. And the tase of apples is much better than the tast of dog crap.

    Is Sony paying a bounty for every time Playstation2 is mentioned on a major media outlet? Geez, the two products aren't even in the same class.

  124. Re:Tetris on a mobile phone by dcheng · · Score: 1

    The Ericsson T28w world phone does have Tetris in addition to Solitaire. It's by far the best complement of games I've seen on a mobile phone.

  125. Re:It is NOT a handheld NES ... by zsazsa · · Score: 1

    It's actually way past a SNES. It supports 65536 colors (SNES had a max of 256), it can do "Super FX" class flat-shaded 3d without any external hardware, it has a 30ish MHz RISC processor (SNES had a 3mhz 65816), and has onboard sprite scaling and rotation (the SNES had to have seperate coprocessors for heavy-duty games like Mario Kart and MegaMan X2 and 3.)

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    thanks to virt for the GBA specs.

  126. It is NOT a handheld NES ... by SuperRob · · Score: 2
    It's actually closer to a SuperNES. It supports Mode7 scaling effects, as well as multi-channel sound, things the NES couldn't do. Plus, the processor is faster than the NES processor.

    Color Gameboy was the handheld NES.

  127. Great 80's technology by SpanishInquisition · · Score: 1

    They could come up with something more 'advanced' I mean this thing is still sprite-based (that means no 3D), I'd rather buy somthing that I can play Doom on.
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  128. And still the gameboy amazes me... by Lostman · · Score: 5

    With as much competition as there is between video game systems and companies constantly expanding new tech and new hardware, the gameboy must be the longest lasting console!

    The gameboy is over 10 years old, and with only minor updates, it is still going strong. I would LOVE to see one of the newer systems be able to boast of that.

    I don't really play that many games, so I won't buy one, but I must admit that the industry and its evolution is very interesting. I just like that a portable mini-system can outlast the heavyweights of the industry. But to be fair, software support always makes or breaks a system too, which is why the handheld brethren of the Game Boy (Lynx, Virtual Boy, GameGear, and TurboExpress) are all in their respective coffins now.

    Maybe I'll get one as a gift to my teenage sister so she'll stop wasting her TI-89 with those cruddy little calculator games :)

  129. Silly gamers... by pb · · Score: 2

    Shouldn't someone tell them that Super Mario Bros. 3 has been out for years already, and was a classic NES title? I also see no reference to it in the article.

    Also, Super Mario Advance looks more like a Mario 2 remake, at least by judging from the screenshots.

    Now, a handheld NES... THAT would be worthwhile.
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  130. Re:Just don't go. by eXtro · · Score: 1
    I rarely went to class. When I did go I was usually drunk or stoned (or both.) Anything to pass the time was good, I especially liked doing liquid hits of high quality acid and staring at the walls. And yes, I did graduate. Now I work for a fortune 500 company doing IT stuff with half of my brain and learning new code and stuff with the other half. No more drugs (except caffine, I haven't been able to shake that one yet.)
    I think this explains how online stores end up with services that store the product price in a format that allows the customer to modify it.
  131. Forget Gameboy... by MorboNixon · · Score: 1

    ...I have a new game, this Cup and Ball! Woooo! Ahhh! You never know where that crazy ball is going to go!

    Red Falcon? Quien es 'Red Falcon'?!?!?

  132. respect by JohnnyKnoxville · · Score: 1

    No matter what anyone says, ya gotta respect The GB for helping to change of the face of gaming, and for having been around so long. Hopefully they can do it again with the GB advance, cause the N64 was extremely dissapointing.