Why does it seem like everyone is missing the point of the story. Built in cryptographic hardware engines on the CPU! Transmeta doesn't give any performance numbers, so I wonder how they compare to other hardware implementations...
IBM did this first, and announced last year at the Hot Chips conference. See here.
Integrated Cryptographic Hardware Engines on the zSeries Microprocessor
The presentation gives an overview of how IBM did it, and predicted that other platforms would have to adopt this class of features in the future.
So I went last night after work to a sold out show. I was so impressed, what a cool production!
but WHERE WAS THE WORLD CENTER!?
I missed out on experienceing the whole thing because I was so obsessed with finding a scene where you supposedly could see the twin towers reflected in Spidey's eyes.
So now instead of rushing in like a fool on opening night I'm going to do more homework before I see it again. Maybe you can help?
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Was this what they were suggesting they'd done to compromise XP?
Well when you have that kind of bandwidth on the PCI bus, doesn't it seem a little redundant to have the AGP port expense on the the bridge chips?
Will everyone who bought AGP 4X graphic cards have to abandon them again like they left the PCI platform before? Anyway I'm still plugging along with an old PCI card and maybe I'll be glad I stayed there.
I been living in Germany working on a project. So let me share an American's insight in the etymology of this German expression...
Shadenfreude.
As an Auslander these are my observations...
When something bad happens to someone here they tend to say "Shade" which means something like 'pity' or 'what a shame'. It can be said in sympathy or mock sympathy, the latter lending itself most easily to the full expression.
I haven't actually seen a lot of Shadenfreude here, maybe they're really keeping their exhiliration at another's failure deeply hidden. What good is that huh? Why have a joy you can't really enjoy?
Maybe I'm missing something, but when someone says Cray is the "only mainstream recognizeable name in supercomputing" I think they're seriously out of touch. At least out of touch with the list of Top 500 supercomputing sites.
IBM has at least half the entries here. And the all important #1. Cray shows up at #10... after 5 IBM installations.
What's up? Is someone claiming Cray belongs to some special set of supercomputing? Would they care to elaborate? Or am I just being overzealous....
So this is my Ask Slashdot... what other schools have cool geek tradition like this, aside from the obvious MIT (but have they ever accomplished anything this amazing?)
Regardless of the model, yes it works and it's great but how for the love of Linux could you box that release?
Ok now me I'm a RedHat user just because. RH6.0 with a few updates is my happy alternative home when not Windozing. I have no compelling need to get up to a more current version, so I probably won't. I really don't see myself going to RH7 though, not maybe till some time middle of next year, if at all.
Are you going to follow the MS model of shiping junk and waiting till SP(large # here) before people trust your releases to deploy critical systems on? Come on, we can do better than that!
Uptime of 3 weeks? I would hope you would at least have some test systems running that say we at least have to be able to run longer than the 49 days or so that a Windows machine would max out at before this gets RTM'd.
Bob, you've got a chance to lead here, there is no rush to release because you're afraid someone is going to be first to market with anything. You have to have some kind of quality standards if you want to be the #1 distribution. All the support engineers in the world are not enough if your released product doesn't have the big bugs shaken out.
Linus won't let 2.4 out the door till it's ready. That's why he's got the respect and confidence that you really need to get. And you can. And the community will gladly help. Get it right, show the closed shops how it's done.
You will have the support of SuSE, Turbolinux and now the latest addition RedHat. Any distro that considers itself a server contender is going to want on board...
I hope you are aware of what the next generation mainframes are all about. IBM last week decided to rebrand the whole server lineup as eServer. So what used to be the S/390 is now the zSeries of eServer. The newest model which should be there in time for Christmas if you order now is the z900. Check it out at http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserv er/ zseries/
This is going to rock and Linux is going to be one of the first OS's that will take full advantage of it's 64-bit goodness! With the 2.4 kernel (which we also will hopefully have for Christmas) the 16 processor (+4 others dedicated to I/O or clustering or hot spares) SMP design is going to set some new benchmark records for Linux scalability.
Worth every penny. Believe me this is the dream machine. And Linux is going to achieve it's server destiny here.
Here's an interesting point on that exploit, from the NIST Rijndael FAQ... If you could crack a DES key in 1 second, how long would it take to brute force that 128bit key? Hint: I'm feeling pretty safe:)
16. What is the chance that someone could use the "DES Cracker"-like hardware to crack an AES key?
In the late 1990s, specialized "DES Cracker" machines were built that could recover a DES key after a few hours. In other words, by trying possible key values, the hardware could determine which key was used to encrypt a message.
Assuming that one could build a machine that could recover a DES key in a second (i.e., try 2^55 keys per second), then it would take that machine approximately 149 thousand-billion (149 trillion) years to crack a 128-bit AES key. To put that into perspective, the universe is believed to be less than 20 billion years old.
The big question on my mind is how fast will the AES replace DES algorityms? Obviously as fast as practical in govt. because that's going to be *their* standard, but what about in industry? We could certainly use whatever one of these functions we want for symetric encryption, they all work...
Problem is... I am desigining some hardware right now to enable hardware assist to SSL and 3DES is still considered a strong encryption. Depending on the AES selected, I may have the chance of replacing the DES engine with an AES one. Depends on the area required to implement in silicon, and the how fast it can run.
However, if DES will still be useful once this choice is made, I've already put a lot into this design. Your insights are appreciated.
Now lets see here... The 9.6GB/s is *only* cache coherency. Addresses, not data. So I wonder how they're inflating this number? As a line address is sent out on this bus, I bet they are counting the entire line size.
The cache BW is only 4.8 GB/s, and off chip is just 2.4GB/s. I'm not impressed. IBM has has been shipping machines with more than that for years. Heck, even Intel is going to catch Sun soon. S/390 G5 and G6 off chip BW is over 3GB/s. Infact, they're developing a machine available soon with 40GB/s data BW to the cache, and these caches are huge (like +128KB) low latency L1's, not the whimpy ones Sun is shipping (gee, notice they don't talk about the size?). Size matters. S/390 is the real choice for serious enterprise computing. And remember, IBM supports Linux across the entire line, from your wristwatch up to the biggest and baddest boxes in the world...
So you think it would be more ethical if he had his son pitch the case to him? Come on, this is pathetic. Hopefully this case is closed quickly and efficiently. I'm quite sick of it all...
Actually there are some really cool rendering engines that IBM had that were seperately cased. Lots of chips on a board that couldn't fit inside the standard cage. So if you want the power, you're going to have to make the sacrifice. But I wonder what bussing you would use to maintain the required bandwidth for and "outside the box" approach?
This is just a suggestion for you guys so you can use your mod points more productively...
If the parent of a reply is off-topic, then moderating down the parent allows the thread to be offtopic. My reply to his off-topic was not off his topic, was it?
Well I have stock in Nokia so this kind of news is always a little disappointing.
I think it's a lull while people wait for the next generation of technology. Check out this article, there is going to be a push for this Christmas season to get people to pick up a new phone now with GPRS features, a "preview" of the kinds of features 3G is going to deliver...
Slashdot Mirror
... but it can't survive Microsoft's software
Does that mean that Redmond is in possession of somehthing *worse* than WOMD???
We demand IMMEDIATE soure code inspections!!!
Or there will be severe consequences.
someone want to start a petition?
Why does it seem like everyone is missing the point of the story. Built in cryptographic hardware engines on the CPU! Transmeta doesn't give any performance numbers, so I wonder how they compare to other hardware implementations...
IBM did this first, and announced last year at the Hot Chips conference. See here.
Integrated Cryptographic Hardware Engines on the zSeries Microprocessor
The presentation gives an overview of how IBM did it, and predicted that other platforms would have to adopt this class of features in the future.
The future is now.
So I went last night after work to a sold out show. I was so impressed, what a cool production!
but WHERE WAS THE WORLD CENTER!?
I missed out on experienceing the whole thing because I was so obsessed with finding a scene where you supposedly could see the twin towers reflected in Spidey's eyes.
So now instead of rushing in like a fool on opening night I'm going to do more homework before I see it again. Maybe you can help?
Was this what they were suggesting they'd done to compromise XP?
Well when you have that kind of bandwidth on the PCI bus, doesn't it seem a little redundant to have the AGP port expense on the the bridge chips?
Will everyone who bought AGP 4X graphic cards have to abandon them again like they left the PCI platform before? Anyway I'm still plugging along with an old PCI card and maybe I'll be glad I stayed there.
Yeah, as if you couldn't discover the same information about of the machine by talking to the HTTP server :P
-SK7
I been living in Germany working on a project. So let me share an American's insight in the etymology of this German expression...
:)
Shadenfreude.
As an Auslander these are my observations...
When something bad happens to someone here they tend to say "Shade" which means something like 'pity' or 'what a shame'. It can be said in sympathy or mock sympathy, the latter lending itself most easily to the full expression.
I haven't actually seen a lot of Shadenfreude here, maybe they're really keeping their exhiliration at another's failure deeply hidden. What good is that huh? Why have a joy you can't really enjoy?
Anyway, Ich bin der Auslander, signing off
Maybe I'm missing something, but when someone says Cray is the "only mainstream recognizeable name in supercomputing" I think they're seriously out of touch. At least out of touch with the list of Top 500 supercomputing sites.
IBM has at least half the entries here. And the all important #1. Cray shows up at #10... after 5 IBM installations.
What's up? Is someone claiming Cray belongs to some special set of supercomputing? Would they care to elaborate? Or am I just being overzealous....
What would get people to pay? Horror.
And I thought, my goodness, the facists are back! Pay up or die you communist scum!
Ok, wake up, it was just a bad dream ;)
So this is my Ask Slashdot... what other schools have cool geek tradition like this, aside from the obvious MIT (but have they ever accomplished anything this amazing?)
And companies?
Keep innovation and prankstership thriving!
Oh this is hilarious! You must read the whole thing...
:)
My favorite lines:
Bush:
I'm just a rich boy, I need no sympathy...
Gore:
I see a little silhouetto of a chad...
Rock on politicos
-sk7
Bob,
Regardless of the model, yes it works and it's great but how for the love of Linux could you box that release?
Ok now me I'm a RedHat user just because. RH6.0 with a few updates is my happy alternative home when not Windozing. I have no compelling need to get up to a more current version, so I probably won't. I really don't see myself going to RH7 though, not maybe till some time middle of next year, if at all.
Are you going to follow the MS model of shiping junk and waiting till SP(large # here) before people trust your releases to deploy critical systems on? Come on, we can do better than that!
Uptime of 3 weeks? I would hope you would at least have some test systems running that say we at least have to be able to run longer than the 49 days or so that a Windows machine would max out at before this gets RTM'd.
Bob, you've got a chance to lead here, there is no rush to release because you're afraid someone is going to be first to market with anything. You have to have some kind of quality standards if you want to be the #1 distribution. All the support engineers in the world are not enough if your released product doesn't have the big bugs shaken out.
Linus won't let 2.4 out the door till it's ready. That's why he's got the respect and confidence that you really need to get. And you can. And the community will gladly help. Get it right, show the closed shops how it's done.
Thanks,
sunking7
You will have the support of SuSE, Turbolinux and now the latest addition RedHat. Any distro that considers itself a server contender is going to want on board...
I hope you are aware of what the next generation mainframes are all about. IBM last week decided to rebrand the whole server lineup as eServer. So what used to be the S/390 is now the zSeries of eServer. The newest model which should be there in time for Christmas if you order now is the z900. Check it out at http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserv er/ zseries/
This is going to rock and Linux is going to be one of the first OS's that will take full advantage of it's 64-bit goodness! With the 2.4 kernel (which we also will hopefully have for Christmas) the 16 processor (+4 others dedicated to I/O or clustering or hot spares) SMP design is going to set some new benchmark records for Linux scalability.
Worth every penny. Believe me this is the dream machine. And Linux is going to achieve it's server destiny here.
Here's an interesting point on that exploit, from the NIST Rijndael FAQ... If you could crack a DES key in 1 second, how long would it take to brute force that 128bit key? Hint: I'm feeling pretty safe :)
16. What is the chance that someone could use the "DES Cracker"-like hardware to crack an AES key?
In the late 1990s, specialized "DES Cracker" machines were built that could recover a DES key after a few hours. In other words, by trying possible key values, the hardware could determine which key was used to encrypt a message.
Assuming that one could build a machine that could recover a DES key in a second (i.e., try 2^55 keys per second), then it would take that machine approximately 149 thousand-billion (149 trillion) years to crack a 128-bit AES key. To put that into perspective, the universe is believed to be less than 20 billion years old.
Sun announces the new US-III, RH drops support for Sparc a week later. Coincidence?
comspiracy films at 11...
Why is MARS less likely in your opinion? Could you elaborate on "eugh!"? ;)
The big question on my mind is how fast will the AES replace DES algorityms? Obviously as fast as practical in govt. because that's going to be *their* standard, but what about in industry? We could certainly use whatever one of these functions we want for symetric encryption, they all work...
Problem is... I am desigining some hardware right now to enable hardware assist to SSL and 3DES is still considered a strong encryption. Depending on the AES selected, I may have the chance of replacing the DES engine with an AES one. Depends on the area required to implement in silicon, and the how fast it can run.
However, if DES will still be useful once this choice is made, I've already put a lot into this design. Your insights are appreciated.
Here's the details about this chip...
Now lets see here... The 9.6GB/s is *only* cache coherency. Addresses, not data. So I wonder how they're inflating this number? As a line address is sent out on this bus, I bet they are counting the entire line size.
The cache BW is only 4.8 GB/s, and off chip is just 2.4GB/s. I'm not impressed. IBM has has been shipping machines with more than that for years. Heck, even Intel is going to catch Sun soon. S/390 G5 and G6 off chip BW is over 3GB/s. Infact, they're developing a machine available soon with 40GB/s data BW to the cache, and these caches are huge (like +128KB) low latency L1's, not the whimpy ones Sun is shipping (gee, notice they don't talk about the size?). Size matters. S/390 is the real choice for serious enterprise computing. And remember, IBM supports Linux across the entire line, from your wristwatch up to the biggest and baddest boxes in the world...
So you think it would be more ethical if he had his son pitch the case to him? Come on, this is pathetic. Hopefully this case is closed quickly and efficiently. I'm quite sick of it all...
The treaty will force all signatories (i.e. your government) to make illegal the 'import and distribution of devices used for hacking.'
:(
Well, there goes my compiler
Actually there are some really cool rendering engines that IBM had that were seperately cased. Lots of chips on a board that couldn't fit inside the standard cage. So if you want the power, you're going to have to make the sacrifice. But I wonder what bussing you would use to maintain the required bandwidth for and "outside the box" approach?
This is just a suggestion for you guys so you can use your mod points more productively...
If the parent of a reply is off-topic, then moderating down the parent allows the thread to be offtopic. My reply to his off-topic was not off his topic, was it?
Just a suggestion...
Have you guys seen this commercial? Check out my .sig!
Well I have stock in Nokia so this kind of news is always a little disappointing.
I think it's a lull while people wait for the next generation of technology. Check out this article, there is going to be a push for this Christmas season to get people to pick up a new phone now with GPRS features, a "preview" of the kinds of features 3G is going to deliver...
With 8MB you can hold like 2 3minute MP3s or a whole movie trailer on your palm!
Oh wait, the PALM can't play those back yet...
Handspring anyone?