So basically you are saying you need managers who used to be geeks so that they understand the issues.
I'm not saying that at all. In fact, that can be a big mistake, and I've had geek managers before who were good geeks but poor managers (and they tended to be much happier when they left the managerial position). A manager can understand technical issues, surprise surprise! He doesn't need to know as much about it as a geek does, but in talking to the people he manages he can get a pretty good feel for how the tech staff is doing -- what they think is wrong, what the right direction should be, what the department should do differently.
So not using facebook makes one a hipster?! I thought only hipsters used faceblech!
Only in the early days. Now everyone uses Facebook. Remember, the hipster is the sort of guy who says "this is popular, so it sucks." That also means that things the hipster might have once liked, he/she can't like anymore.
I don't know, I think a joke should be funny for it to deserve a whoosh. Not sure what the OP was trying to do; I think -think- he was trying to make a joke, but it clearly didn't work.
Of course. I didn't know that I don't have to listen to the ideas of others and can whatever pleases me.
No one is credibly making the claim that Linus doesn't listen to other ideas. However, if he doesn't think they're -good- ideas, he is free not to implement them. The leader gets to make that sort of decision.
Have you even read parent's comment? Or are you perhaps thinking that all backdoors are perfectly obvious, perhaps with a nice/* Backdoor */ comments?
The parents' comments are fairly ridiculous. Code that goes through the NSA and is entirely open is far MORE likely to be heavily scrutinized. If the NSA wants to put in backdoors, they will do it in areas of code that no one suspects the NSA is looking at. They would be far more effective at hiding the source of commits.
The fact that Linus can't manage this isn't a facet of his awesomeness, it's a glaring revelation that he is simply a great coder and nothing else.
I wouldn't go quite that far. He's a great coder, and more than that, he has a pretty clear and consistent vision of what the kernel SHOULD be. It's quite easy to get lost in the details of your code, or just focus on your section of the code and lose that vision (or just never have it).
The situation simply points out that like a number of tech people, Linus has rather poor people skills.
I didn't agree with the views he had, but he never attacked any of the people that worked for him over their sexual preference.
No, he just funneled money to a hate campaign which argued that gay marriage would sexualize children and then dragged out the long-debunked insinuations that gays can't be trusted with kids. I would have a pretty hard time keeping my respect up for a boss like that.
Ooh, I see we have an SJW as a mod today. Truth hurts, don't it?
I don't think you need to be an SJW to roll your eyes and think it's flamebait when people have to bring in that overused term to every fucking discussion that happens on the Internet.
I used to think SJW was a fantastic acronym that nicely described the mindset of a certain group of shrill advocates. Now it's so abused to hell and back that it's a meaningless term.
They rebelled because they don't want to do what they managers do. Decisions the managers make don't just go away because no one in charge is there to make them.
I had a job when I was in college where, in the latter days, I was promoted to a senior position in a campus computer lab that had managerial aspects in addition to the technical stuff I did before. I got that position because I knew my stuff, helped organize the lab, and was a senior worker there (in a workplace staffed by college students, it doesn't take long to attain seniority). I hated it. HATED. Worst time I've ever had in my career. The point in the semester where I was supposed to submit performance evaluations.. I dreaded that. These were decisions that would affect peoples' salaries. Affect whether they were kept on. Affect what they heard from the "real" managers. For a guy who wanted to code and set up servers and tinker, it was a stressful distraction.
I think a lot of geeks are like that. They don't want to be the manager. They don't want to be involved with those sorts of decisions. But there are so many things that a good manager will do to remove that burden from the geek. They can manage inter-personal conflicts. They can decide the direction that the department will go in. Most importantly, they can negotiate with other departments. If the tech department has no advocate who can explain in plain language the pros and cons of technical decisions, then other departments are going to make those decisions for the tech department without any input from them. I'm sure there are a lot of geeks who are now saying "oh, it's already like that everywhere." It's not. In particularly dysfunctional environments it can be, but in places where various departments have a good managerial staff, at least executives can understand what the risks involved are, and what is realistic. I understand the temptation to replace bad managers with no managers, but I can't see how "getting rid of all the managers" will improve that situation.
Professionalism is not about how one acts or what one says, professionalism is about the quality of work which one performs, and the expertise, knowlegde, and insight one performs it with.
Bull. Shit. (He says, unprofessionally) Professionalism has ALWAYS included how you treat people who you come into contact with as a part of your job, and that has also included co-workers.
If you act down to the standard we associate with elementary school kids, then you can't really be called "professional."
Wrong. It makes people look at their code just that extra bit more carefully before submitting it. If you're afraid of being called an idiot, you're more likely to double-check that your code doesn't contain any stupidity. You'll won't simply assume that your "trivial fix that couldn't possibly break anything" doesn't break anything, instead you'll actually take the time to test it. And then you'll read through the diff again before submitting it, and you'll often spot a spelling error in a comment or an assignment which should be a comparison.
The threat of (publicly) being called an idiot prevents complacency and assumptions from causing fuckups. Even the world's best coder can still make stupid mistakes. Knowing that you will be called out on any stupid mistakes makes people look that extra bit harder for them in their work.
Yup! Living in anxiety that a social misanthrope will lash out at you when you make a mistake. That's a great way to attract and retain volunteers! No wonder most people who work on the kernel now are paid to do it. It's a shit job.
Yes, the developers and maintainers of the most widely used and mature open-source OS are "immature", not the screeching SJW attention whores who can't exist without perpetually claiming victimhood and oppression.
Pointing out that someone is acting like an asshole does not suddenly make them an SJW. I hate SJWs with a passion** but maybe a number of the kernel devs have communications problems and personality flaws that feed into those problems. Asking that people act civil is a pretty low bar to set. It's kindof the basic test of being able to interact with other human beings, and being unable to feeds into the very ugliest of the nerd stereotypes.
** In as much as that term has any value anymore, which is little now. "SJW" has become so overused that it's almost meaningless now.
The American Indians did not have a national identity. Now they all (the ones that are not dead) live on the reservation. The uncivilized Europeans, who did have an overabundance of National pride just kind of relocated those silly Indians.
They did often have tribal identities. And tribes fought tribes. And slaughtered other tribes. Over various issues including, yes, territory. Please don't romanticize the Native American with the Noble Savage trope.
She insinuates rich parents may be using expensive aids to prepare their kids but shows no proof that is happening, not even a specific example.
I can't speak for the "gifted programs" since I was never in one, but this is absolutely the case for standardized tests like the SATs. I took a number of training courses and it greatly boosted my score... since the SAT is a shitty, gameable test. I'm sure those tests weren't free, and though my mother wasn't wealthy, she was willing to go into debt for the education of her kids.
He was bullied constantly because he was socially different (Think "Sheldon" of "Big Bang Theory") and had no friends. School was torture...
I went to a high school where I was actually bullied (in class, usually) for the first time (bullying in elementary school was more casual). I quickly discovered that the people who made life hell the most didn't get into honors classes, or AP classes, or Latin. I worked hard to get in and stay in those classes. Amazing what a bit of motivation like that will do to an academic career.
Then I went to college, loved everyone, had a great time... and my grades plummeted. Away from that horror of a school, and away from parents who kept me working, I had to relearn how to study, relearn to motivate myself.
There is a MASSIVE abundance of open recs for good engineers in Silicon Valley right now. It's such an employee market
Another fuck you to you, buddy.
You're talking about the same Silicon Valley where all the big players are guilty of colluding to artificially keep employee pay low.
Yeah, and they got in trouble for that, and despite even that, SV tech tech jobs are still the most overpaid (yes, overpaid) employment positions in the US outside of professional sports and upper management. Few people have it better than us.
Obviously the thought never occurred that some people are able to pay their own way and don't have to leech off someone else.
Without health insurance, a catastrophic injury or sickness can bankrupt anyone who isn't a millionaire. It can be phenomenally expensive. Many people who think they can pay their own way might think they can pay for a simple broken bone, and they probably can, but forget it if they come down with something worse.
As originally written? Damn good thing, too. Slaves counting three fifths of a person, no women's suffrage, no birthright citizenship, appointed Senators, poll taxes: the original constitution was a fucking shambles, and took quite a few amendments to get functioning properly as the foundation for a modern government.
The Constitution was originally written with the intention that it be changed. The rules for doing so are right in the original document. The Founders knew changing times would involve changing needs of the populace, and in no way did they feel like the Constitution should be set in stone. The 3/5s rule, women's suffrage, elected Senators, abolishing poll taxes, all of these were legal modifications to bring the Constitution in line with the desires of the populace.
However, there's a difference between changing the Constitution and outright ignoring it. If you ignore it, then there's nothing to stop legislators, officials, and the general public from disregarding the portions you happen to like along with the parts you might consider outdated.
Yeah, it really makes me wonder why she was registered as a Democrat. How many other policies of the Democratic party did she support? Was it few enough that a couple of Republican nutjobs coming to her defense was enough to make her change her affiliation?
My guess is that she probably leaned towards the Democrats on the economic front, while being a social conservative. Similar to a Blue Dog Democrat.
However, Kim Davis's religious beliefs are so extreme that this one issue seems to greatly override the importance of any other.
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So basically you are saying you need managers who used to be geeks so that they understand the issues.
I'm not saying that at all. In fact, that can be a big mistake, and I've had geek managers before who were good geeks but poor managers (and they tended to be much happier when they left the managerial position). A manager can understand technical issues, surprise surprise! He doesn't need to know as much about it as a geek does, but in talking to the people he manages he can get a pretty good feel for how the tech staff is doing -- what they think is wrong, what the right direction should be, what the department should do differently.
So not using facebook makes one a hipster?! I thought only hipsters used faceblech!
Only in the early days. Now everyone uses Facebook.
Remember, the hipster is the sort of guy who says "this is popular, so it sucks." That also means that things the hipster might have once liked, he/she can't like anymore.
I don't know, I think a joke should be funny for it to deserve a whoosh. Not sure what the OP was trying to do; I think -think- he was trying to make a joke, but it clearly didn't work.
Of course. I didn't know that I don't have to listen to the ideas of others and can whatever pleases me.
No one is credibly making the claim that Linus doesn't listen to other ideas. However, if he doesn't think they're -good- ideas, he is free not to implement them. The leader gets to make that sort of decision.
Have you even read parent's comment? Or are you perhaps thinking that all backdoors are perfectly obvious, perhaps with a nice /* Backdoor */ comments?
The parents' comments are fairly ridiculous. Code that goes through the NSA and is entirely open is far MORE likely to be heavily scrutinized. If the NSA wants to put in backdoors, they will do it in areas of code that no one suspects the NSA is looking at. They would be far more effective at hiding the source of commits.
The fact that Linus can't manage this isn't a facet of his awesomeness, it's a glaring revelation that he is simply a great coder and nothing else.
I wouldn't go quite that far. He's a great coder, and more than that, he has a pretty clear and consistent vision of what the kernel SHOULD be. It's quite easy to get lost in the details of your code, or just focus on your section of the code and lose that vision (or just never have it).
The situation simply points out that like a number of tech people, Linus has rather poor people skills.
Whenever I want to post on a subject that I had moderated on, I just log out. No secondary account needed.
Hey, at least they are fighting against priviledge escalation [wikipedia.org].
That's just a way to keep disadvantaged processes down. There is a glass ceiling separating kernel and user land.
I didn't agree with the views he had, but he never attacked any of the people that worked for him over their sexual preference.
No, he just funneled money to a hate campaign which argued that gay marriage would sexualize children and then dragged out the long-debunked insinuations that gays can't be trusted with kids. I would have a pretty hard time keeping my respect up for a boss like that.
Sarah's opinion only has value if she's cute.
There, I said it.
Time to watch "12 Angry Men Inside Amy Schumer again."
That's what happens when you let SJWs run things.
Ooh, I see we have an SJW as a mod today. Truth hurts, don't it?
I don't think you need to be an SJW to roll your eyes and think it's flamebait when people have to bring in that overused term to every fucking discussion that happens on the Internet.
I used to think SJW was a fantastic acronym that nicely described the mindset of a certain group of shrill advocates. Now it's so abused to hell and back that it's a meaningless term.
They rebelled because they don't want to do what they managers do. Decisions the managers make don't just go away because no one in charge is there to make them.
I had a job when I was in college where, in the latter days, I was promoted to a senior position in a campus computer lab that had managerial aspects in addition to the technical stuff I did before. I got that position because I knew my stuff, helped organize the lab, and was a senior worker there (in a workplace staffed by college students, it doesn't take long to attain seniority). I hated it. HATED. Worst time I've ever had in my career. The point in the semester where I was supposed to submit performance evaluations.. I dreaded that. These were decisions that would affect peoples' salaries. Affect whether they were kept on. Affect what they heard from the "real" managers. For a guy who wanted to code and set up servers and tinker, it was a stressful distraction.
I think a lot of geeks are like that. They don't want to be the manager. They don't want to be involved with those sorts of decisions. But there are so many things that a good manager will do to remove that burden from the geek. They can manage inter-personal conflicts. They can decide the direction that the department will go in. Most importantly, they can negotiate with other departments. If the tech department has no advocate who can explain in plain language the pros and cons of technical decisions, then other departments are going to make those decisions for the tech department without any input from them. I'm sure there are a lot of geeks who are now saying "oh, it's already like that everywhere." It's not. In particularly dysfunctional environments it can be, but in places where various departments have a good managerial staff, at least executives can understand what the risks involved are, and what is realistic. I understand the temptation to replace bad managers with no managers, but I can't see how "getting rid of all the managers" will improve that situation.
Professionalism is not about how one acts or what one says, professionalism is about the quality of work which one performs, and the expertise, knowlegde, and insight one performs it with.
Bull. Shit. (He says, unprofessionally) Professionalism has ALWAYS included how you treat people who you come into contact with as a part of your job, and that has also included co-workers.
If you act down to the standard we associate with elementary school kids, then you can't really be called "professional."
I saw she'd done the same thing to her critics that was done to her (disrespecting them by replacing their comments with "fart fart fart fart")
Sounds like she has a future writing for some Comedy Central show!
Wrong. It makes people look at their code just that extra bit more carefully before submitting it. If you're afraid of being called an idiot, you're more likely to double-check that your code doesn't contain any stupidity. You'll won't simply assume that your "trivial fix that couldn't possibly break anything" doesn't break anything, instead you'll actually take the time to test it. And then you'll read through the diff again before submitting it, and you'll often spot a spelling error in a comment or an assignment which should be a comparison.
The threat of (publicly) being called an idiot prevents complacency and assumptions from causing fuckups. Even the world's best coder can still make stupid mistakes. Knowing that you will be called out on any stupid mistakes makes people look that extra bit harder for them in their work.
Yup! Living in anxiety that a social misanthrope will lash out at you when you make a mistake. That's a great way to attract and retain volunteers!
No wonder most people who work on the kernel now are paid to do it. It's a shit job.
Yes, the developers and maintainers of the most widely used and mature open-source OS are "immature", not the screeching SJW attention whores who can't exist without perpetually claiming victimhood and oppression.
Pointing out that someone is acting like an asshole does not suddenly make them an SJW. I hate SJWs with a passion** but maybe a number of the kernel devs have communications problems and personality flaws that feed into those problems. Asking that people act civil is a pretty low bar to set. It's kindof the basic test of being able to interact with other human beings, and being unable to feeds into the very ugliest of the nerd stereotypes.
** In as much as that term has any value anymore, which is little now. "SJW" has become so overused that it's almost meaningless now.
The American Indians did not have a national identity. Now they all (the ones that are not dead) live on the reservation. The uncivilized Europeans, who did have an overabundance of National pride just kind of relocated those silly Indians.
They did often have tribal identities. And tribes fought tribes. And slaughtered other tribes. Over various issues including, yes, territory.
Please don't romanticize the Native American with the Noble Savage trope.
She insinuates rich parents may be using expensive aids to prepare their kids but shows no proof that is happening, not even a specific example.
I can't speak for the "gifted programs" since I was never in one, but this is absolutely the case for standardized tests like the SATs. I took a number of training courses and it greatly boosted my score... since the SAT is a shitty, gameable test. I'm sure those tests weren't free, and though my mother wasn't wealthy, she was willing to go into debt for the education of her kids.
So how easy is it to "game" the IQ tests?
He was bullied constantly because he was socially different (Think "Sheldon" of "Big Bang Theory") and had no friends. School was torture...
I went to a high school where I was actually bullied (in class, usually) for the first time (bullying in elementary school was more casual). I quickly discovered that the people who made life hell the most didn't get into honors classes, or AP classes, or Latin. I worked hard to get in and stay in those classes. Amazing what a bit of motivation like that will do to an academic career.
Then I went to college, loved everyone, had a great time... and my grades plummeted. Away from that horror of a school, and away from parents who kept me working, I had to relearn how to study, relearn to motivate myself.
There is a MASSIVE abundance of open recs for good engineers in Silicon Valley right now. It's such an employee market
Another fuck you to you, buddy.
You're talking about the same Silicon Valley where all the big players are guilty of colluding to artificially keep employee pay low.
Yeah, and they got in trouble for that, and despite even that, SV tech tech jobs are still the most overpaid (yes, overpaid) employment positions in the US outside of professional sports and upper management. Few people have it better than us.
Obviously the thought never occurred that some people are able to pay their own way and don't have to leech off someone else.
Without health insurance, a catastrophic injury or sickness can bankrupt anyone who isn't a millionaire. It can be phenomenally expensive. Many people who think they can pay their own way might think they can pay for a simple broken bone, and they probably can, but forget it if they come down with something worse.
Mmm, a Ronald Reagan "I didn't leave the Party, the Party left me" type.
As originally written? Damn good thing, too. Slaves counting three fifths of a person, no women's suffrage, no birthright citizenship, appointed Senators, poll taxes: the original constitution was a fucking shambles, and took quite a few amendments to get functioning properly as the foundation for a modern government.
The Constitution was originally written with the intention that it be changed. The rules for doing so are right in the original document. The Founders knew changing times would involve changing needs of the populace, and in no way did they feel like the Constitution should be set in stone. The 3/5s rule, women's suffrage, elected Senators, abolishing poll taxes, all of these were legal modifications to bring the Constitution in line with the desires of the populace.
However, there's a difference between changing the Constitution and outright ignoring it. If you ignore it, then there's nothing to stop legislators, officials, and the general public from disregarding the portions you happen to like along with the parts you might consider outdated.
Yeah, it really makes me wonder why she was registered as a Democrat. How many other policies of the Democratic party did she support? Was it few enough that a couple of Republican nutjobs coming to her defense was enough to make her change her affiliation?
My guess is that she probably leaned towards the Democrats on the economic front, while being a social conservative. Similar to a Blue Dog Democrat.
However, Kim Davis's religious beliefs are so extreme that this one issue seems to greatly override the importance of any other.
Well the first thing he did was start singing in celebration, so... quite possibly.