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Speaker of the House Boehner Announces Resignation

halfEvilTech writes: House Speaker John A. Boehner announced Friday morning that he will resign at the end of October. The Washington Post reports: "The resignation will end a nearly five-year reign as speaker, allowing House Republicans to approve a short-term government funding bill that will avert a shutdown of federal agencies. Boehner's hold on the speaker's gavel had grown increasingly unsteady amid threats from more than 30 Republicans that they would force a no-confidence vote in his speaker's position, which would have forced him to rely on Democratic votes in order to remain in charge. Several GOP members told The Washington Post that Boehner would step down from Congress Oct. 31."

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  1. House loses most staunch Democrat by aristotle-dude · · Score: 2, Informative

    He might have been Republican in name but seemed to vote more like a democrat.

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    1. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      He might have been Republican in name but seemed to vote more like a democrat.

      If you're not with us you're against us, eh? If you look at a graph, he's moderate. "More like a Democrat"? You can be moderate, you know. For a site that rails against the two party system, the comments seem to want to reinforce it.

    2. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You mean like President Ronald Reagan who raised taxes 11 times, cooperated with Tip O'Neil and the Democrats to get things done, negotiated with the Soviets and the Iranians, and granted amnesty to illegal immigrants?

    3. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not that it really matters. Obama will veto anything that the Republicans do anyway, even if it were to get past a filibuster in the Senate. I predict...more gridlock no matter who becomes speaker.

    4. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't you know? If you're a moderate, then you are like a Democrat. The Republican party is far-right extremist, and "the left" no longer exists. Even "socialist" Bernie Sanders is only about as far left as Eisenhower.

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    5. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by blue9steel · · Score: 1

      He might have been Republican in name but seemed to vote more like a democrat.

      Hardly. He did tend to vote moderate though, which extremists tend to find uncomfortable.

    6. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

      It is a good day.

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    7. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by tripleevenfall · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You say "gridlock" like it's a bad thing.

      Every time Congress does anything, more of our rights and more of our money disappear.

      They can all take a good long vacation, if you ask me.

    8. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He might have been Republican in name but seemed to vote more like a democrat.

      Boehner understood that, in order to get something you want, you have to offer something the other side wants in exchange. Demanding to have everything your way is a guaranteed losing strategy.

      It'll be interesting* to see how badly the remaining arch-conservative Republicans burn themselves before it finally sinks in.

      * and by "interesting", I mean totally fucking hilarious

    9. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by romanval · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly how does a "real" Republican vote in a way that's in the best interests for all?

      Real politics is one of compromise... and I haven't seen a TPR (Tea Party Republican) do that in a long time.

    10. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by caladine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Too many repubs conveniently gloss over the facts with their vaunted Reagan. Someone with his record would be considered the worst kind of RINO by the repub base today. If could, I'd be +1'ing this.

    11. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by tnk1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That would be perfect if Congress didn't have to vote once or twice a year for the government to stay open.

      Unfortunately, they seem incapable of that even.

    12. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Obama will veto anything that the Republicans do anyway, even if it were to get past a filibuster in the Senate.

      Anything? Obama said he will veto if a bill has something to defund Planned Parenthood. If the Republicans let go of the whole defund Planned Parenthood thing, Obama more than likely will go along.

      It's a shame that heavily edited video came out. PP mostly does women's health screening: pap smears, breast exams, free birth control so they don't have to get abortions, and other free health services that have nothing to do with abortion - all for poor women and it's 99% of what they do. PP does very very little abortions. But unfortunately, the anti-abortionists insist on lying about and exaggerating their abortion services.

      But I don't care. See, I'm well to do. If a woman in my family want's an abortion and it's illegal, we'll hop on a plane and get it done where it's legal and there's not a goddamn thing in the World anyone can do about it.

      Banning abortion just commits poor women to have their babies.

      And the adoption myth. Adoption is viable for white healthy babies. The rest get thrown into the foster care system or into abusive families who are gaming the welfare system.

    13. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Reagan also cut more taxes than anyone in history (dangerous facts) and Bill Clinton passed welfare reform. Morale of the story? Obama sucks, Bush sucks, and our politicians are more interested in power than people.

    14. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, or he was trying to do that thing called 'governing.'

      After the elections are over, the Congress needs to actually work together and compromise in order to enact legislation to keep government working. You can't just stamp your feet and demand you always get your way - that's not governing, and results in the completely dysfunctional shitty government we have today.

      Oh, I know what you're thinking: "I'd rather have a gridlocked government than one that passes this socialist marxist yadda blah blah" - keep thinking that and being part of the problem. Enjoy never seeing a conservative elected to the Presidency again.

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    15. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by quantaman · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You say "gridlock" like it's a bad thing.

      Every time Congress does anything, more of our rights and more of our money disappear.

      They can all take a good long vacation, if you ask me.

      You might have to join them if your job requires government funding and they force another shutdown.

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    16. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by MachineShedFred · · Score: 5, Insightful

      and meanwhile thousands of families lose their livelihood to shutdowns and furloughs because 535 people can't work together to get anything done for the 320 million people that sent them there to do a job they refuse to do.

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    17. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 2

      Are you aware of these 535 people called "Congress"? They negotiate and pass bills. The President just signs or vetoes them.

    18. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No compromise with evil. No compromise with death.

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    19. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by DigiShaman · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Would Eisenhower ban Uber? Because that's exactly what Bernie Sanders wants to do. He's not just a socialist, he's statist first and foremost!

      http://woundedamericanwarrior....

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    20. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      President Obama took a page out of the Clinton Playbook by making the Republican agenda his own.

      • Capturing Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan? Checked.
      • Permanently extending the Bush tax cuts for most Americans? Checked.
      • Implementing RomneyCare-style healthcare reform for all Americans? Checked.

      What are the 2016 Republican presidential candidates talking about these days? Not foreign policy, not taxes and not Obamacare.

    21. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by tomhath · · Score: 2

      cooperated with Tip O'Neil and the Democrats to get things done

      That's the important part. Neither party can get anything done unless they sit down and and cut deals. Obama, Pelosi and Reed proved that.

    22. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by taiwanjohn · · Score: 2

      I'm slightly intrigued by the proximity of this announcement to the Papal visit. I know Boehner's said he wanted to quit last time, but only stayed on because Cantor got the boot. And the hardliners in his own party have been circling like wolves to unseat him as Speaker. But is there a chance that he was wavering on this decision, and something about the Pope's visit prompted him to get off the fence?

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    23. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IANATH (tax historian) but is it possible that some taxes were cut and others were raised under Reagan (by Congress, as the other post pointed out)? I.e. maybe some progressive taxes were cut, while regressive ones were increased? Then, depending on how you cherry pick your facts, you could claim that they were raised or lowered and be just as accurate.

    24. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you aware of these 535 people called "Congress"? They negotiate and pass bills. The President just signs or vetoes them.

      That's something that most voters don't understand. I once said that President's have very little control over the economy. Boy, did I hear about it!

      Dems LOVE pointing how Clinton was responsible for the 1990's economic boom (it was Greenspan's cheap money). Reps love pointing at Saint Regan and the 1980s and it was really a combination of business cycles and Greenspan having his head up Ayn Rand's pussy.

    25. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by bob_super · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Gotta call Poe's Law on this one...

    26. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And from the other side, the extremist Republicans who have no good intentions are pandered to by Boehner and McConnell who should know better by now, but due to a level of cowardice are unwilling to competently govern.

      In any case, the House is badly constructed, and needs to be reformed anyway.

    27. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      He's probably leaving on his own terms to get a nice lobbyist job on K Street, as the papal visit makes for a good cover story. If he waited until he got dragged through the mud in a leadership fight, his compensation from K Street would be substantially lower.

    28. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by LifesABeach · · Score: 2

      I have an informal list of people that I would watch their assimilation on Pay Per View, and both Boehner and McConnell are on it.

    29. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by cgfsd · · Score: 2

      Do you not understand that under the category of "extreme" is "extremely good"?

      Moderation is the mixing of poison and food..

      Moderation is making a dam only moderately strong.

      Moderation is a 747 pilot who's only moderately sober.

      Drinking Alcohol (a poison) with dinner is moderation.
      Building a dam moderately strong to specifications and not ruin the surrounding area due to over engineer is considered appropriate..
      Moderately sober 747 pilot, that would be a step up for the normally drunk pilot, right?

    30. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

      I am a staunch conservative, but I'm not so partisan as to think that people who are equally disposed from the center on the liberal side of things have "no good intentions".

    31. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, no, it isn't the govt employees that are hurt by the shutdown. Their cut is locked in. It's the millions of people who provide services to the government that are out in the cold.

      You're right, govt bureaucrats are there to get promoted. They're also there to hire, task, and fire the contractors. That last one is important, because you have to have someone to blame. That's WHY there's contractors.

    32. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by whistlingtony · · Score: 5, Informative

      Speaking as a Democrat, I'm happy to see that the R's gave in on abortion, funded women's health care, stopped oil subsidies, went along with a single payer health care system, cut back on war funding, funded basic infrastructure, etc etc etc. Oh wait, that never happened.

      What did the Democrats get that they wanted? I'm dying to know. That's a big statement. Let's see it backed up.

    33. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I always get a kick out of this partisan "give them everything" BS that's always quoted. The essence of deal making is no one gets everything they want. There are people on the right like yourself that fail to acknowledge one simple fact. That is that the republicans do not have the votes necessary to override the democrats against their wishes. The solution you propose is to simply refuse to play as if that's a solution. A solution with only one outcome, you shutdown government, put millions out of work, cost millions more and damage the US economy in the process in the hope that the Democrats will roll over and give you everything you want.

      So Boehner is going to do the smart thing and quit before the Republican's shut down government yet again and piss off even more Voters with the resulting cost of loss of seats and less power for the party. You and the republicans like you represent the decline and eventual destruction of the republican party.

    34. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      According to the news reports the Pope did whisper something to him. No one knows what was said except for the pope and Boehner.

    35. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by rahvin112 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You just insulted every soldier.

      Keep that in mind every time you rant against Federal employees (the largest batch of which is soldiers). And a shutdown WILL harm soldiers, particularly the ones that work for the state guard units funded by federal moneies that will NOT have their wages paid. My nephew in law is a state guardsman, the last shutdown cost him almost a 1/12th of his yearly pay. They almost ended up homeless.

    36. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by taiwanjohn · · Score: 1

      I understand all that, my question is why announce it now? Is he trying to "bury the story" under the Papal news cycle? (Fat chance!) I suspect he'll pitch it more as a "come to Jesus" moment, inspired by the Pope. Not that it matters much, he's leaving in any case. I'm just curious to see how it plays out.

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    37. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      That graph does show him to the left of literally every other Republican, though, however they measure "ideology". I didn't read through the methodology.

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    38. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 0, Troll

      PP isn't a binary choice. That is the problem with liberals, is that they tend to put out binary choices. The thing about PP is that ObamaCare makes PP all but irrelevant for just about every woman's healthcare issue, the remaining issue is ... Abortion. And since Abortion is a holy sacrament of the left, they (the left) make it about everything else (woman's healthcare, Evil Republicans ... etc ).

      The Republicans should pass the CR with everything but funding for PP, adding in funding for any Woman's HealthCare Community Center that isn't PP and make Obama shut the government down to save PP. They would win, Obama and the (D) would lose and Planned Parenthood would go the way of the Dodo.

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    39. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Only the Republicans would ostracize someone for being slightly less of an asshole than his colleagues... my fear is that they'll now replace him with someone that is even more of an asshole. Traditionally, Congress make progress through compromise, not dogmatic extremism!

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    40. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Duhavid · · Score: 1

      Maybe he wanted to get his papal audience...
      Maybe he thought that would not happen if he announced his resignation first.

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    41. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      The last time Boehner stood up to them, they tried to remove him from his position of speaker, remember? I be a little hesitant to stand up to the extremists in order to do the right thing too, if I were him. Now we get someone even worse... should have stuck with the evil we knew.

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    42. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There are a couple issues the republicans have gone so far to the right that they actually accomplished a far Left policy goal. Berny Sanders has been trying to shutdown the EXIM (Export/Import) Bank for almost a decade and was always thwarted by the Republicans and blue dog democrats. In their effort to be as far right as possible the Tea Party Republicans actually accomplished one of the Sanders policy goals. It's almost Ironic if it weren't funny and tragic at the same time. We've already lost 1000 jobs shutting down a bank that made the treasury money.

    43. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Extreme and moderate are subjective terms.

      I may seem extreme for liberty, but when the alternative is the slippery slope towards tyranny, it isn't that extreme.

      Meanwhile, plenty of people are willing to compromise liberty for security, not realizing they will get neither.

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    44. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Obama didn't get impeached, because those damned moderates caved into the Democrats and gave them what they wanted! Seriously, Mitch McConnell's #1 priority was to make sure Obama was a single term president, and it didn't happen... terrible disappointment for the "good guys"!

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    45. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Aha! Just like Obama and Jon Stewart... Boehner is resigning because of a secret deal with the Pope! Promises of becoming a saint can sway anyone...

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    46. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      I still think Clinton was a better Republican than W, judging by the traditional Republican platform. But then, what's wrong with being a moderate? Both parties have some good idea, the best ideas from both parties should be implemented, in a spirit of compromise.

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    47. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He might have been Republican in name but seemed to vote more like a democrat.

      LOL. It's almost as if today was the first day you've actually paid attention to US politics.

    48. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Obamacare would have done much to reduce the need for Planned Parenthood's rural healthcare services had states actually expanded Medicaid as the law required. Because so many states with Republican controlled legislatures and governors offices refused to support the medicaid expansion planned parenthood's services are still needed by many poor women.

      Your argument is without merit until the medicaid expansion is fulfilled.

    49. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." Barry Goldwater

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    50. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      No, they'll elect someone even worse to be the new Speaker!

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    51. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure your nephew is a fine person but just because somebody is a soldier does not put them on some pedestal.

    52. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by damn_registrars · · Score: 3, Informative

      For a site that rails against the two party system, the comments seem to want to reinforce it.

      This site rails against the two party system only in that they find the other party (ie, the democrats) to be an inconvenience that they need to rid the nation of. Around here if you stand to the left of Genghis Khan you're a goddamned socialist.

      This is of course particularly funny when you see slashdotters twist themselves into knots trying to align themselves with Reagan (who is far too far to the left to be welcomed in today's GOP) while still pushing their extreme conservative agenda.

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    53. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Staunch conservative? Who's that? Is that like being a Goldwater conservative?

    54. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      In fact, the whole system was intentionally set up with checks and balances precisely to make it difficult for extremists to get their way! Insisting on "my way or the highway!" is an attempt to subvert the whole system that was created by much wiser people than our current batch of republitards.

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    55. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by khelms · · Score: 1

      "Watch their assimilation"? You mean, like by the Borg?

    56. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bureaucrats and government employees will not be harmed by this. They get a paid vacation. Every 'furlough' comes with back pay when its over.

      Contractors get layoffs.

      I lost my job in the 2013 "shutdown" and will again in a week.

    57. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by khelms · · Score: 1

      Yes, he's been offered a position as a bishop with a chance to move up to cardinal.

    58. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think you know what "statist" means.

    59. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      Do you even know what any of those things you are talking about are ?

      What women's healthcare issue is it you want funded ?
      Where are the Republican's fighting baby killing ? They won't even stop children being butchered and their organs sold.
      What oil subsidy do you want stopped ?
      How are they not going along with single payer healthcare.
      What infrastructure do you want funded that isn't actually the job of the states and not the federal governments ?

      I am guessing you don't. What's more your post doesn't inform it actually is the opposite of informative. It conveys anti information and makes people think they know something when they don't.

      Good job

    60. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by blogagog · · Score: 0

      Actually, they lose their livelihood because one person blocks 535 people from passing laws. He lives in the White House.

    61. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Judging from the posting history, that guy is actually serious. Nobody can act for that long.

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    62. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      The existence of moderates make extremists look extreme. Run the moderates out of the party, the extremists become "normal" as others look away from the obvious. Adolf Hitler did that during the 1930's.

    63. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

      Is he trying to "bury the story" under the Papal news cycle?

      wait, papal split from ebay a month or two ago, didn't they?

      why is this news, now? did something happen?

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    64. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Extreme and moderate are subjective terms.

      I may seem extreme for liberty, but when the alternative is the slippery slope towards tyranny, it isn't that extreme.

      Meanwhile, plenty of people are willing to compromise liberty for security, not realizing they will get neither.

      This is the actual quote:
      Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

      Stop spreading lies and misinformation. Franklin made plenty of compromises of his liberties for security, including signing a treaty with the French monarchy to provide military support to the US independence movement.

    65. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not the OP, but off the top of my head -

      What women's healthcare issue is it you want funded ?

      Planned Parenthood and mandating health insurance company cover birth control

      Where are the Republican's fighting baby killing ? They won't even stop children being butchered and their organs sold.

      Planned Parenthood defunding attempt due to the small percentage of their services that are abortion related.

      What oil subsidy do you want stopped ?

      Any and all of them

      How are they not going along with single payer healthcare

      There was originally a requirement to have the government offer insurance as a competitive carrot for the insurance industry when the ACA was being negotiated. Republicans refused to consider it, while at the same time trumpeted how private industry was more efficient than government all of the time.

      What infrastructure do you want funded that isn't actually the job of the states and not the federal governments ?

      Interstate highways and bridges, to start.

    66. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neither party can get anything done unless they sit down and and cut deals. Obama, Pelosi and Reed proved that.

      That was proved before any of those people were born, sonny boy.

    67. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Blowing mod points already expended in order to inform you that trying to trick people into Facebook likes in that fashion is pretty fucking low. As in, "need a telescope to see the snake's belly overhead" low.

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    68. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Zing! Nice one.

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    69. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We'll see how many whiners vote in the next election.

    70. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Kierthos · · Score: 1

      Due to existing regulations, he has to wait at least a year before becoming a lobbyist.

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    71. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Defunding planned parenthood wouldn't stop them from providing service. It would just put them on a level playing field with private hospitals. Since the affordable care act was put in place, why does ANY health provider need funding?

    72. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Observe, another variant on the Internet Tough Guy.

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    73. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last time the govt shutdown, all the employees got a nice vacation, most of the banks floated them the money they were going to make, and when the govt opened back up, they got back pay. The only people affected in my area were those who enjoyed the National Wildlife Refuges that were shutdown.

    74. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not entirely true. They could fund certain agencies and Federal functions because of critical needs, they've done it before. They may not because they like to use it as a political football for their own agendas. Please people wake up to the scum bags that politicians really are!

    75. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      Not the OP, but off the top of my head -

      What women's healthcare issue is it you want funded ?

      Planned Parenthood and mandating health insurance company cover birth control

      Planned parenthood is funded to the tune 500 million a year.

      What oil subsidy do you want stopped ?

      Any and all of them

      If you can't name any of them how can anyone take you seriously ?

      How are they not going along with single payer healthcare

      There was originally a requirement to have the government offer insurance as a competitive carrot for the insurance industry when the ACA was being negotiated. Republicans refused to consider it, while at the same time trumpeted how private industry was more efficient than government all of the time.

      That isn't single payer. We also already have what you are talking about, it doesn't work that well. Google Medicaid.

      What infrastructure do you want funded that isn't actually the job of the states and not the federal governments ?

      Interstate highways and bridges, to start.

      The Highway bill comes up every year and is always passed. It's one of the "Must Pass" pieces of legislation, and is one of the largest government programs as is.

    76. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1, Insightful

      President Obama took a page out of the Clinton Playbook by making the Republican agenda his own.

      • Capturing Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan? Checked.

      Sorry but what did Obama do to accomplish that? Was the capture not based on an ongoing operation started during the bush administration? I think the credit should go to the CIA analysis and Seal team 6 and not the sitting president.

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    77. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reps love pointing at Saint Regan and the 1980s and it was really a combination of business cycles ....

      You know, at the time it seemed like Reaganomics was a good idea. Then I went to college, took economics and business classes, and later noticed what decades of republican policies did.
      I would say that in the 80s, the economy boomed despite Reagan's half-baked ideas.

    78. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No compromise with evil. No compromise with death.

      Should I wish you luck in your imminent flight to the Congo to fight evil genocide there then?

      But if you will not compromise with death, then you have to die now or be immortal. Anything else is a compromise.
      ChirsMaple - asshole with keyboard of ignorance +1.

    79. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by fnj · · Score: 1

      I would have phrased it "No compromise with treason and murder".

    80. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      President Obama made capturing Osama bin Laden a priority for his administration. President Bush made invading Iraq a priority over capturing Osama bin Laden. One was a success, the other was a failure.

    81. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It just kills me when I see comments like this, especially when they get modded up. You people have no idea how much the government does that would immediately cease if the government completely shutdown. You might miss border control with unregulated crossing of the US borders, you might miss consular assistance if you're in a jam abroad, you might miss the justice department enforcing a breach of contract you are involved in, you might miss the coast guard if your ship sinks in US territorial waters, you might miss the FAA when suddenly there is no air traffic control. These are all things that are inherently government functions that would cease immediately if the government just stopped. And this is only what I could think of off the top of my head in 60 seconds--the max amount of my life I'm willing to waste responding to drivel on the internet.

    82. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Government shut down, the only people who are immediately affected are government workers, and those that get government checks. Most of the rest of us, life goes on and we don't miss a thing. IMHO the whole "Governement" thing could be streamlined so we don't actually need much of it, and people would get along just fine, except for a few whiners out there crying foul because life itself isn't fair.

      I, for one, welcome our new anarchist overlords

    83. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by HiThere · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Being a moderate would require being to the left of most elected Democrats. If you'd said he was a mean politician, however, it would be hard to argue.

      (Possibly median, but it seems to me to be closer to the mean. And by politician I'm only considering elected legislators in the Federal Government.)

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    84. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by ninjagin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, while you can get by without meat and poultry inspections for a little bit, and without water quality monitoring for awhile, or game and fisheries monitoring for awhile, or atmospheric tracking and monitoring for awhile, or auditing financial institutions for legal compliance, there would be a time afterwards when stuff like that would become meaningful again. None of that stuff showed up in the government basket out of thin air. It's nice to think that it can all be burned down and nobody would care, but the truth of it is that there are things the government does (most of what it does, actually) which private industry does not or cannot do reliably or without undue influence. Yep, there's also a lot of paperwork and inefficiency, too.

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    85. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sheesh a lose of 1/12 of an annual pay and your losing your house.....no...you where losing it all along....your just too god damn stupid to be alive or to know whats what.

      And you are too damn stupid to realize that it's the american consumer spending beyond their means that has created the economic expansion over the last decades that almost certainly is responsible for you having a job and not being homeless.

    86. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shhh, the same cross section that supports Bernie opposes any kind of regulations for Uber. ;)

    87. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bitterness detected. The bitterness that comes from bumping up on 50 and realizing you haven't achieved much.

    88. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the national parks (including the Grand Canyon, much to Utah's dismay). And many regional parks. And then the federal fish/wildlife so noone knows how many deer they can hunt. And then...

      I dislike (especially wrt the parks!) how entangling the federales have become, but they are quite in everything...

    89. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you show me where this so called "Planned Parenthood's rural healthcare" is? Because if you look at most of the locations of Planned Parenthood, they are all in major cities. They are actively moving out of the rural areas because they can't make any money there.

    90. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Except that Bush explicitly stated the catching Osama bin Laden was not a priority. Obama made it a priority again and the CIA along with Seal team 6 delivered. Obama's leadership is a major reason for it though.

    91. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by tbannist · · Score: 1

      I may seem extreme for liberty, but when the alternative is the slippery slope towards tyranny, it isn't that extreme.

      On the contrary, it is that extreme. It's simply that you've lost the perspective to recognize your own extreme behaviour.

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    92. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be new here. Everyone knows Coren22 likes being abused by apk. It's why he trolls him. To get smacked around!

    93. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      The last moderates ever appointed to the Supreme Court were appointed by Ronbo.

    94. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Coren22 · · Score: 1, Troll

      Except that Obama did nothing but say it was a priority. He didn't change the amount of effort going into tracking Osama down, Osama just got a bit careless.

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    95. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by T.E.D. · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You must have missed Obama going out of his way to refuse to negotiate with the Republicans over the last government shutdown.

      And why should he? The "government shutdown" is Congress refusing to pay for bills Congress ran up. What possible benefit to the POTUS is there in playing with them on this? If they were offering something the Democrats might like in exchange it might be different. But sticking a gun to your own head and demanding my car keys isn't going to get you a "negotiation".

    96. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shouldn't troll your betters Coren22. You got repeatedly smacked down http://slashdot.org/comments.p... + http://slashdot.org/comments.p... and again http://slashdot.org/comments.p... and yet again http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    97. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure your nephew is a fine person but just because somebody is a soldier does not put them on some pedestal.

      Yeah, yeah. Say that when the homeland is invaded and you are in desperate need of protection.

    98. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      All of those things, however, are considered "essential services" and are never affected by government "shutdowns". It's why politicians can use government shutdowns for political grandstanding - it's only a small percentage of the federal government that's actually affected.

    99. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wonder if shutting down the IMEX bank had anything to do also with Boeing announcing setting up a plant in China to make 737s there...

    100. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      President Obama who ordered the takedown of Osama bin Laden and got the job down. He went against the advice of Vice President Joe Biden to abort the mission because it was too similar to the 1980 Iranian hostage rescue attempt. Obama pulled the trigger, Bush sat on the sidelines.

    101. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coren22's a serious moron. I know the answers to those things and he blew it. What a douche.

    102. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's 99% of what they do. PP does very very little abortions. But unfortunately, the anti-abortionists insist on lying about and exaggerating their abortion services.

      No need to exaggerate when the truth is not much different: it's actually 97% of what they do. Also, only that 97% is federally funded, so the abortion services will be hurt less than the other health services. Makes me wonder what they hope to accomplish, other than outrage-fueled publicity.

    103. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's say what you said is true. Obviously Planned Parenthood is willing to sacrifice the 99% other stuff they do to be able to continue to preform abortions.

      This shows their priorities are the same as the pro-life - 100% centered on abortion and willing to sacrifice all the other befits that their organization supplies.

    104. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by RabidReindeer · · Score: 2

      Actually, he already got a private meeting with the Pope. Then he announced his retirement.

      Maybe the Pope tweaked his conscience. Or whatever politicians use in place of one.

    105. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I find terribly obvious besides coren22 starting trouble with apk and apk smacked him down all those times in those links is he went on a posting binge to try bury it and now that he's cornered by his mistakes and trolling he goes silent. Talk about obvious idiot in coren22.

    106. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anguirel · · Score: 1

      We all know. "Hail Hydra."

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    107. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uhu, uhu, Yep. None of those things you said matter to me or indeed an entire generation of my peers because we are already that fucked. Whats immigration control gonna do for all the Americans replaced by H1B's. Who is flying/boating/travelling while working 80 hours a week for near minimum wage? Not a single one of your listed examples would impact my life in an overtly negative way.

      We don't need no water let the motherfucker burn...

    108. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by amicusNYCL · · Score: 0

      We've already lost 1000 jobs shutting down a bank that made the treasury money.

      Jesus Fucking Christ, we need to get that 0.0003% of the population back to work immediately or we're all doomed! Because god forbid some people working jobs that aren't needed have to find another job. Next up, let's all shed a tear for the poor coal miners. We better just keep on pumping that coal in our power plants because otherwise, holy fucking shit, those people might need to find a 21st century job. And, naturally, the #1 goal of every person in this country today is to make sure that every other person keeps their job. We must avoid change at every possible opportunity and at all cost. In fact, I think we need to fire up this nation's telegraph industry again to get all of those telegraph operators their jobs back. Imagine how great that would be for everyone!

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    109. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by SpankiMonki · · Score: 1

      According to the news reports the Pope did whisper something to him. No one knows what was said except for the pope and Boehner.

      Not true! I was able to read the Pope's lips. He said:

      "May you be touched by his noodly appendage"

    110. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by nytes · · Score: 1

      "Your fly is open."

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    111. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last time I checked, the Grand Canyon was still in Arizona.

    112. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

      Then there's the bit from Freakonomics: When and where abortions are illegal, 20 years later violent crime rates increase.

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    113. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When invaded? I'll pick up a gun and fight. And you'll worship me for that?

    114. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Rakarra · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No one should ever negotiate on the debt ceiling. The time to talk about spending too much is when you want to open the wallet and buy things. It's a bit late to for that discussion when your new TV is sitting in the living room and you're wondering if you want to bother paying the credit card bill for it that just arrived.

    115. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Too many repubs conveniently gloss over the facts with their vaunted Reagan. Someone with his record would be considered the worst kind of RINO by the repub base today. If could, I'd be +1'ing this.

      Some conservatives are more in love with the Reagan of their mythology than they are the Reagan who was President.

    116. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 0

      It kills me to think that you think many government services actually is valuable. For the most part, private industry would do a hell of a lot better for a hell of a lot less.

      Here is just one little example: If a Government project fails its stated goals, what happens? If a Private Company's project fails, what happens?

      There is absolutely no way to stop a failed government project or department. We have the Department of Education, which has done exactly what for education? Don't tell me what they spend money on or what programs they offer, tell me, how well the US is doing overall in the world in education? All that money, being spent is bad money after worse money. We have populations enslaved to the status quo because they have no choice in the matter. Offering up "School Choice" (vouchers) is met by ridiculous claims about church and state and such so NOTHING changes. (heaven forbid a black child gets educated by a Christian school, it is better they vegetate in the school they are assigned because EVIL Christians)

      And no, throwing more money at that problem isn't going to solve it. But that is the ONLY option we are given. Failed Programs after Failed Programs, and yet we haven't fired the whole department yet. In the end, nobody is responsible, because that is the way the system is set up.

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    117. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by laie_techie · · Score: 1

      Speaking as a Democrat, I'm happy to see that the R's gave in on abortion, funded women's health care, stopped oil subsidies, went along with a single payer health care system, cut back on war funding, funded basic infrastructure, etc etc etc. Oh wait, that never happened.

      Most Republicans are NOT against funding women's health care; rather we are against using tax money to fund elective abortions. There is a difference. Republicans also generally want to make "late term" elective abortions illegal. There is no consensus on other contraceptives, except that employers who hold religious beliefs that contraceptives are immoral should not be forced to pay for a health plan which provides them (If the employee chooses to, they could get supplemental insurance). BTW, why do Democrats put contraceptives under the "women's health" umbrella when it takes two to tango?

    118. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Informative

      You failed to read my response. Planned Parenthood isn't the only choice. There are PLENTY of other Woman's Health Centers out there, most don't perform abortion. And I suggested expanding coverage for these. So your view is simply binary choice selection, which is what I said in the first place.

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    119. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by SpankiMonki · · Score: 1

      Except that Obama did nothing but say it was a priority. He didn't change the amount of effort going into tracking Osama down, Osama just got a bit careless.

      LOL! It appears you've re-written history in your mind. The problem is, you've re-written it backwards and upside down.

    120. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      "Take my people to the stars."

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    121. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by laie_techie · · Score: 1

      Not the OP, but off the top of my head -

      What women's healthcare issue is it you want funded ?

      Planned Parenthood and mandating health insurance company cover birth control

      Why is birth control listed under women's healthcare? It takes two to tango. The most common form of contraceptive is the male condom. Granted, it is the woman who gets pregnant and carries the embryo / fetus / baby nine months, but in most cases she was a willing participant. Very few would argue that a woman should be forced to carry a baby to term if the pregnancy was the result of rape, so it's a moot point in political discussions.

      Where are the Republican's fighting baby killing ? They won't even stop children being butchered and their organs sold.

      Planned Parenthood defunding attempt due to the small percentage of their services that are abortion related.

      Republicans don't like tax money used to pay for elective abortions. The revelation that Planned Parenthood rotates the baby to be able to harvest more body parts - and sells such parts for profit - doesn't sit right with us.

    122. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by ejWasTaken · · Score: 1

      Southern Utah does a have quite a few national parks, but the Grand Canyon is in Arizona.

    123. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Said by a guy that would be unelectable in today's extremist gop

    124. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by dywolf · · Score: 1

      you say that like it has a relevant meaning.

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    125. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      First, planned parenthood doesn't have any capacity to perform any women's health services other than abortions and referrals to other programs already in place. Well, that's if you do not count birth control as a woman's health service. But that would be like Philip Morris getting federal money to give out mexate and methotrexate as a public health service.

      Second, abortions equal about 12% of pp services provided so its not as small as it is made out to be. To further this point, abortions account for almost 40% of their annual revenue. Federa funding is about 20%. They make more money from abortions than federal funding.

      Finally, no. The interstate system is state funded and has been since the 1970s when the states took control of them. The feds still collect a fuel tax and most of it gets appropriated to the highways but the states pay a majority of all project costs.

      As for the oil subsidies, very few people i have talked with know about any specific ones and those that do change their mind about ending those specific ones. They still want to end all the ones they do not know anything about but insist is happening and needs to end. You probably wouldn't be the same if you actually looked into them. You should try it and see.

    126. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by imidan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      BTW, why do Democrats put contraceptives under the "women's health" umbrella when it takes two to tango?

      Because contraceptives have other uses than just preventing pregnancy. For example, oral contraceptives lower women's ovarian cancer risk, clears up acne, lighter menstruation, reduction in PMS symptoms, relief from endometriosis, and relief from polycystic ovarian syndrome.

      They also serve as a pretty effective form of birth control. But when a woman is advised by her doctor to use oral contraceptives for any of the above conditions (or anything else), and reasonably wants them to be covered by her insurance, she gets Rush Limbaugh calling her a slut. Personally, I think if we can manage to cover boner pills with medical insurance, we can probably cover birth control pills also, regardless of the reason a woman wants to take them.

    127. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by rahvin112 · · Score: 3, Informative

      They didn't just want a "negotiation" they wanted him to bend over and let them ass rape him by destroying his single biggest policy achievement. There was no way in hell he was going to agree to that. That's the thing people just aren't getting. If you want to change status quo you have to negotiate. Everything the Republican's have been trying to do it change the current status quo and no one in their right mind is going to agree to such a thing under a threat of refusing to fund government.

      This is how Obama-care got through, Obama negotiated with the 1 or 2 republicans willing to negotiate that got him the votes he needed to break the fillibuster and pass it. Then all these new congress-critters from the tea party come in and they think they get to have whatever they want and screw everyone else.

    128. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by dywolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      this was their idea of negotiation: give us everything we want, and fuck you.
      not playing by those rules is not refusing to negotiate.
      and linking to the Washington Times only lowers your apparent IQ.

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    129. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      It also seems like the extremists are the ones who care enough to vote in the primaries, not the moderates. That's when the real decisions are made.

      Moderates pay attention to other things during the primary season, then when the then the presidential candidates for the parties are chosen, they don't like who the extremists chose.

    130. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by dywolf · · Score: 1

      except for the workers having to come to work without pay.
      the key part is the last part: without pay.

      "they get back pay"

      creditors dont care. guy I work with lost his house last time cause mortgage company started foreclosure on him cause of payments he couldnt make due to not getting paid on time.

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    131. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by narcc · · Score: 2

      The revelation that Planned Parenthood rotates the baby to be able to harvest more body parts - and sells such parts for profit - doesn't sit right with us.

      Oh, then you'll be happy to know that that doesn't happen and has never happened.

    132. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      The Canyon is located inside of the larger Grand Canyon National Park (just as Yosemite Valley is located in the much much larger Yosemite National Park), though even the northern border of the park seems to sit comfortably south of the Utah border.
      Maybe he's thinking of Monument Valley or Yellowstone.

    133. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Actually, they lose their livelihood because one person blocks 535 people from passing laws. He lives in the White House.

      If Congress says "pass the bill that we want or we'll shut down the rest of the government," it's not the President's fault when they do so.

    134. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Heresy! Heresy! Heresy! How dare you question the sanctity of the Armed Forces!

      Don't you realize that when someone brings up the military, you're supposed to shut your brain off and just nod to what they say while saluting the flag?
      That's a Sacred Cow that you never sacrifice in the US.

    135. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      You mean the sort of birth control which isn't the most reliable to start if taken perfectly (who has the time/attention for that?) which leads to a false sense of security and the real possibility of accidental pregnancies? Know what happens to a good number of accidental pregnancies? Abortions.

      You're starting from a failed assertion: "If they just didn't have sex, they wouldn't get pregnant!" I think the last few millennia should show the folly in that. People WILL have sex, even if they shouldn't. The drive will not go away. People will do it.

      So. Start from the baseline assumption: "These people who don't want to have children are going to have sex. How do we best prevent a pregnancy?"

    136. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it kind of does. Not something to be worshipped or anything mind you. But the biggest reason you or your children are not forced to be a soldier is because we have competent people who for whatever reason volunteer to risk being in harm's way. Many countries have or relatively recently had compulsory service in the military. We have managed through the bravery of these volunteers to for the most part abolish that.

        With an all volunteer military and the ability to do whatever you want instead of standing in their place does elevate them a bit and we certainly should honor our obligations to them above any political show boating.

    137. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might miss border control with unregulated crossing of the US borders,

      One might miss it, if we had it...

      you might miss consular assistance if you're in a jam abroad

      Not being abroad, I wouldn't, but I can see how it would concern people who are stuck in that position. Is that something that would end with a shutdown?

      you might miss the justice department enforcing a breach of contract you are involved in

      Generally this is handled by monetary compensation, so if it's delayed by a shutdown, that's not really a world-ender. Knock-on losses incurred during the shutdown can probably be added to the final compensation once things start up again.

      you might miss the coast guard if your ship sinks in US territorial waters

      True. Is the coast guard on the list of things that would be shut down?

      you might miss the FAA when suddenly there is no air traffic control.

      Possibly. Although if there were any risk of long-term complete failure to regulate airspace, a consortium of commercial interests would probably step in to coordinate flight routes and such. GA is also kind of expensive to get involved in, so its participants having already made significant investment of money and attention, there would be some self-regulation there as well.

      These are all things that are inherently government functions that would cease immediately if the government just stopped. And this is only what I could think of off the top of my head in 60 seconds--the max amount of my life I'm willing to waste responding to drivel on the internet.

      Actually, I think some or even most of those actually continue to be funded and operational in the event of government shutdown, as are certain entitlements due to the structuring of their funding, and of course the post office is self-funded. Further most people arguing for not being afraid of a little government shutdown are thinking of the kind of government shutdown we had in the 90s–temporary and with "essential" services intact. Not the complete anarchy straw man you seem to want to argue against.

    138. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      The most you get with the men's side of contraception is free condoms in the schools, and far right conservatives are often opposed to that.

      (but not all, I know a far right conservative that is an OB/Gyn nurse who's all in favor of it because kids have low self control and high hormone levels, so if they're going to have sex anyway then why not have a condom)

      As far as the Planned Parenthood video, there's so much word of mouth about it unrelated to what was actually on that full video or what actually happens. There is no profit here. At all. Or wait, is factcheck.org now a lefting mouthpiece? Because selling body parts doesn't sit right with *anyone* no matter what party.

        (and I'm not in any party, they're all evil in my book)

    139. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by narcc · · Score: 1

      For the most part, private industry would do a hell of a lot better for a hell of a lot less.

      Except for prisons, healthcare, telecom, security ... Do I really need to go on? When they're not milking the government teat (everything in my list) for every last penny they can extract while doing the minimum. With infrastructure, it's a bit worse -- without boat-loads of public money, they won't even service any but the maximally profitable, while moaning the whole time about how they don't want to spent our money building out to low-profit areas.

      (heaven forbid a black child gets educated by a Christian school, it is better they vegetate in the school they are assigned because EVIL Christians)

      Oddly enough, I have a friend who's an administrator at a private Christian school. While I admit demographics there are unusual as it is predominantly black. (For the curious, a lot of private Christian schools started as a reaction to integration.) Fun fact: they pull in a ton of government money. Again, private enterprise is sucking my sweet, sweet, tax dollars right out of their representatives "Washington monument".

      There is absolutely no way to stop a failed government project or department

      Quite a few have closed. It happens all the time. I was involved with HUD Neighborhood Networks before they shuttered in a round of budget cuts.

      What's really tough is shutting down a private project funded with tax money. Planes that can't out-fly old designs, helmets with too much resin, etc. Once a company gets their hands in Government pockets, they never let go. No matter how much money they waste, or how badly they screw up, the cash just keeps on flowing.

      Now that I'm thinking about it, I'll bet that a lot of the "government waste" you hate is a direct result of the involvement of private enterprise.

    140. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Reagan and Jesus, just two bleeding heart liberals trying to tear this country down!

    141. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by blue+trane · · Score: 2

      The real reason the Repubs are opposed to the Export-Import bank is that a public bank conceptually takes away from the private sector's drive to become the exclusive creator of all money. That's why Repubs want to end the Fed too, to fully privatize the money supply.

      Sanders is against it, if he is, because he doesn't fully understand how much money the private sector creates out of thin air, tens or hundreds of trillions of dollars per year. Sanders's Fed audit revealed $16 trillion in off-balance-sheet money creation; the question Sanders should ask is why can't we use that power of money creation in the General Welfare, to create money for a basic income for example?

    142. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Remember, it was George H. W. Bush who termed the phrase "voodoo economics" in order to disparage Reagan's ideas. This was before he was selected to be a running mate.

    143. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by narcc · · Score: 1

      The ACA kinda sucks. It's better than nothing, but not what anyone wanted.

    144. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Trump's goal is to deport Obama and trick Mexico into building a wall.
      Carly wants to sell off the unprofitable parts of America and focus on the core business of ink cartridges.
      Marco Rubio wants his own head to explode.
      Ted Cruz wants to invent a time machine.
      Ben Carson I'm not sure about because he was hard to understand with his foot stuck in his mouth.
      Jeb Bush just wants his older brother to stop teasing him.
      Rick Santorum wants something frothy.
      Mike Huckabee wants a name that isn't so funny.
      Lindsey Graham wants people to stop calling him a rhinocerous.
      Rand Paul wants to have a good drawn out argument.
      John Kasich just wants people to know he's still in the race.

    145. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Politics used to be called a horse race. I think it's more relatable these days to call politics a sports game. The fans have to pick sides, root for their side and boo at the other side. Doesn't matter if you like either one, you have to pick one side or another. You spend most of the time moving some ball back and forth, then occasionally tell an interviewer "we did good out there tonight, gained some ground, we'll see what happens in the second half."

    146. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      And this was rather silly, since the entire point of going into Afghanistan was to get Osama and punish those who helped him. So Bush was moving the goal posts (a sports analogy, I apologize to our regular slashdot readers).

    147. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      American politics has proven that no one can remember anything that's more than five years old.

    148. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you commies killed the romanovs and millions of other russians. rot in hell.

    149. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hitler was the response to you commies killing millions of russians wholesale.

      karma is a bitch and hitler avenged the elimination of the romanovs.

    150. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the people of iraq and syria concur. more power to your "defenders".

    151. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's an interesting note on the political compass website about the 2012 US Presidential election. It points out that Obama is a right-wing politician, and Democrats might have been better off with a Republican winner in 2012.

    152. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you fucktards look at maps?
      Yellowstone is for the most part in Wyoming with slivers in Idaho and Montana. It is nearly two states north of the Grand Canyon. (and I am talking states with some length - not those pussy states in the NE)

    153. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice propaganda shilling for PP. I'm no ultra conservative, my compromise would be to double funding for women's healthcare, including abortion services, but exclude planned parenthood from receiving any of it.

    154. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am a republican but I am not against abortion. I would be fine adding funding for abortion services. I just don't want it going to one particular business that appears shady and corrupt. Tell me why that is an unreasonable position?

    155. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, you don't get to both decide what side you want to be on and choose your opponents' tactics, that's up to them.

    156. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by aanantha · · Score: 1

      Are you aware of these 535 people called "Congress"? They negotiate and pass bills. The President just signs or vetoes them.

      That's not accurate either. The President via the OMB basically drafts the federal budget. Since the executive branch runs the bureaucracy it knows what resources are necessary to make a program successful. So even when Congress is against the President there's a limit to how effectively they can force their will. Congress can easily kill programs they don't like by defunding them but it's much harder for them to force the executive to run a program effectively when the executive wants to kill it.

    157. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by physicsphairy · · Score: 1

      "Look, we've already put a trip to the Bahamas in our itinerary, the only thing we can reasonably do now is sign up for more credit cards."

      The economists promise us there are complicated economic reasons why our present debt is good, or at least not bad, and I'm not saying they are wrong (I'm not educated enough to do so). But I don't think the domestic analogy is the way to go if you want to defend that position.

      Newtonian mechanics is not going to explain how the cat is both dead and alive.

    158. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by ultranova · · Score: 1

      employers who hold religious beliefs that contraceptives are immoral should not be forced to pay for a health plan which provides them

      The health care plan is part of the employee's compensation, is it not? As such, the employer's religious beliefs should have no say on what it covers, just like the employer's religious beliefs have no say on what I use the rest of my wage for. It's not the employer's money any more at that point.

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      Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.

    159. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know how that can be true, since most Democrats seem to vote as Republicans. Weird that.

    160. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the matter, couldn't find a hosts file to play with today?

    161. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahhh. I think you need to go back and look at how Ocare passed. Not a single reublican voted for it. It was passed by a legislative trick called reconsiliation that can't be filibustered.

    162. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you believe that anybody else might have a valid opinion, you're not a staunch conservative by today's standards. That's a good thing. We need more like you and less like them.

    163. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhhh...The Fed is a private entity which masquerades as a public one by having officers make speeches to Congress and having the President appoint its chair.

      Its assets are owned by private banks and it serves their interests. It is no more federal than Federal Express, and the illusion is maintained for a reason: the US has a history of terminating harmful private central banks and so this one was set up so as to confuse people and not draw their anger twoards the private sector where it belongs.

      In that respect it mostly works because most people are woefully ignorant of what I just said.

    164. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He might be a man in name but he cried like a little girl.

    165. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps saving about four million children a year?

    166. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would you compromise with someone who is plainly lying?

    167. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

      He voted against everything that came across his desk, no matter where it came from. The Republicans in Congress have one response to everything: "No!". Boehner and the tea baggers who now pushed him out are the main reason for the political and legislative standstill of the country for years. All they do is keep seats warm and waste tax payer's money.

    168. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

      Über in the way it wants to operate ought to be banned. They want to enslave their drivers, pushing all the risk on the drivers while grabbing all the reward (money).

    169. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

      Ha said he wanted to step down anyway by the end of the year, but I guess he was sick of all that partisan tea bagger bickering now.

    170. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

      Which does not stop him from consulting on issues and getting inflated compensation for a speech he throws in. As if these regulations stop anyone... And why wait a year? Not only should there be term limits, once in Congress and term limit is up taking any other office or turning into a lobbyist ought not to be allowed. Go back and get a real job. That is the only way to keep Congress members attached to reality.

    171. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > No one should ever negotiate on the debt ceiling.
      Ditto that. Refusing to raise the debt ceiling would do enormous damage to the US. Anyone even considering such action is a terrorist, and should be treated as such. Free one-way tickets to GTMO.

    172. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Duhavid · · Score: 1

      "Actually, he already got a private meeting with the Pope. Then he announced his retirement."

      That was my point.

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    173. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by blogagog · · Score: 1

      Yes, it exactly is. He is saying, "If you don't give me what I want, I will veto everything and shut down the government." When they say no, he shuts down the government and then shuts down things he doesn't even have to, like parks, just to make Americans suffer.

    174. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by ebvwfbw · · Score: 0

      Stop smoking crack dude. Eisenhower is well to the right on that scale. Even Kennedy today would be considered a "radical right" guy. That's how the crazy lefties (hippies like John Kerry) have taken over the Democrat party. Boehner was instrumental in giving them what they want. Skyrocketing debt, well here's a graph for you http://www.zerohedge.com/news/... . I dare you to look at them and realize what a train wreck he's presided over.

      Keep it up, fudalism is just around the corner.

    175. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      Here's a graph for you - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...

      You've got some explain' to do!

    176. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh huh... Don't worry about the video. That's all bs right?

    177. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You aren't a "staunch conservative" if you say that. I'm not what you say you are but if I were I wouldn't say that.

      Personally, I like the same things that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson liked. That doesn't line up with anything that anyone in DC spouts currently.

    178. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most of the things you mention are specifically funded by allocated taxes. They don't stop with a government shutdown.

      You people make me want to vomit. "Unregulated crossing of the US borders" -- LOL. I guess you mean that when I as a US citizen return from abroad that they will give me a hard time while thousands of assholes flood across the border while the executive branch orders border agents to look the other way.

      Never ever has air traffic control stopped (other than the near miss when they were going to strike.) It never would because guess what -- they are funded by specific fees. Will the privately funded parks close because we want to make a show of the shutdown stop? Yeah. That will happen. Essential services? Not so much.

      But keep pretending that the feds protect us all from impending doom. You're an idiot.

    179. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by narcc · · Score: 1

      Planned Parenthood does not sell fetal tissue for a profit. They have never sold it for a profit. Even the heavily-edited video doesn't show them selling or admitting to selling fetal tissue for a profit.

      Believe it or not, Fox News did not report this accurately. Shocking, I know.

    180. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by mrchaotica · · Score: 2

      The debt is caused by the Republicans. Democrats want to spend and tax, Republicans want to spend and hope somebody else pays for it later.

      --

      "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

    181. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by ebvwfbw · · Score: 0

      You need to look into history and admit your error. In the 1990s the Republicans took over congress and for the first time since the Dems controlled the Congress in the 1950s, they started to pay off the debt. So much so that we taxpayers actually got a rebate in the early 1990s. Look at what happened in 2009 with the new Obama and Dem controlled congress. Skyrocketing debt. More than 10 T so far.

      As I said, admit your error.

    182. Re: House loses most staunch Democrat by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      Not a single reublican voted for it. It was passed by a legislative trick called reconsiliation that can't be filibustered

      I love how this ignores that those same Republicans, who were in the minority, shamelessly used every senate "trick" in the book to stop passage. They fail due to another trick, and suddenly they're the aggrieved party? Somebody needs to grow up.

      The image I will always remember is Senator Byrd, being wheeled in from his deathbed to break yet another filibuster vote that the Republicans knew they didn't have the votes to sustain. He was saying "Shame! Shame!" as the Republicans in the Senate were cynically clapping for him like they cared about his health, when they were the ones endangering it.

      If Republicans didn't like that "tricks" were used in the process to pass Obamacare, then they shouldn't have used them.

    183. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by wyHunter · · Score: 1

      The Democrats got exactly what they wanted: A destroyed economy, and a diminished USA.

    184. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by wyHunter · · Score: 1

      They also have caused tens of thousands of breast cancer cases, including for my sister.

    185. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      So, show how I am wrong.

      The same people who were looking under Bush finally got a break, Obama, as president, ordered the mission to go ahead, and Osama was captured. What more effort did Obama put into finding Osama?

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      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    186. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by laie_techie · · Score: 1

      BTW, why do Democrats put contraceptives under the "women's health" umbrella when it takes two to tango?

      Because contraceptives have other uses than just preventing pregnancy. For example, oral contraceptives lower women's ovarian cancer risk, clears up acne, lighter menstruation, reduction in PMS symptoms, relief from endometriosis, and relief from polycystic ovarian syndrome.

      They also serve as a pretty effective form of birth control. But when a woman is advised by her doctor to use oral contraceptives for any of the above conditions (or anything else), and reasonably wants them to be covered by her insurance, she gets Rush Limbaugh calling her a slut.

      You mean drugs often have multiple effects? shocking! As an aside, Viagra was developed to help lower blood pressure. It was a happy coincidence that this also results in its more popular use. BTW, Rush is not a good measure for the heart-beat of the Republican Party.

      Personally, I think if we can manage to cover boner pills with medical insurance, we can probably cover birth control pills also, regardless of the reason a woman wants to take them.

      I personally don't believe that Viagra should be covered by entry-level insurance; if a couple wants it without paying the true cost, have it as an add-on or supplemental insurance (eg. the couple pays extra per month).

    187. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by laie_techie · · Score: 1

      employers who hold religious beliefs that contraceptives are immoral should not be forced to pay for a health plan which provides them

      The health care plan is part of the employee's compensation, is it not? As such, the employer's religious beliefs should have no say on what it covers, just like the employer's religious beliefs have no say on what I use the rest of my wage for. It's not the employer's money any more at that point.

      Any compensation should be spelled out so the candidate can make an informed decision. You have a small logical flaw in your argument. Once the employee receives their pay, the employer has no say in how it's used. This is 100% correct. However, employers pay a large portion of the employee's health insurance. As the employer has a financial stake in it, they should be able to pay for a plan that does not cover contraceptives; if the employee wishes to buy supplemental insurance for this, more power to them.

    188. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by SpankiMonki · · Score: 1

      So, show how I am wrong.

      The same people who were looking under Bush finally got a break, Obama, as president, ordered the mission to go ahead, and Osama was captured. What more effort did Obama put into finding Osama?

      Bush admitted that OsamaBinLaden (tm) wasn't a priority during his time in office. Do I have to Google it for you? Or are you one of those that clasps your hands to your ears and shouts "NA NA NA" when confronted with reality?

    189. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 1

      The President via the OMB basically drafts the federal budget.

      And that budget immediately gets thrown in the trash, unread. Congress funds things against the Executive Branch's wishes all the time.

      http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/12/18/congress-again-buys-abrams-tanks-the-army-doesnt-want.html

    190. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by imidan · · Score: 1

      You mean drugs often have multiple effects? shocking! As an aside, Viagra was developed to help lower blood pressure. It was a happy coincidence that this also results in its more popular use. BTW, Rush is not a good measure for the heart-beat of the Republican Party.

      Well, the question you asked was why Democrats consider contraceptives to be a women's health issue. That list of women's health issues that contraceptives can be used to treat is a reason. If you already know this, then why are you asking the question? Are you trying to prompt an argument about women's reproductive rights? I very much doubt that we're going to find ourselves in agreement over much in that area.

      I think birth control pills are important to cover with insurance because they are a highly effective form of birth control and because they can be used to treat a variety of medical issues. I don't have a problem with covering boner pills like Viagra, but I don't think erectile dysfunction is nearly as important as any of the things that birth control pills treat. I realize that sildenafil (Viagra) was developed to treat pulmonary hypertension, but it has another preparation called Revatio that is intended for that treatment.

    191. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, show how I am wrong.

      Here ya go!

    192. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    193. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, show how I am wrong.

      Ugh. Do you really have to be shown? Really? JFC. What is it with you people? (and by "people", I mean IDIOTS)

    194. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by lars_stefan_axelsson · · Score: 1

      Here is just one little example: If a Government project fails its stated goals, what happens? If a Private Company's project fails, what happens?

      Apparently they get bailed out by your congress...

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      Stefan Axelsson
    195. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by ultranova · · Score: 1

      However, employers pay a large portion of the employee's health insurance. As the employer has a financial stake in it,

      No, they don't. The health insurance, as already stated, is part of employees compensation. As such, the employer has no financial stake whatsoever in it. It does not belong the them, it belongs to the employee.

      they should be able to pay for a plan that does not cover contraceptives; if the employee wishes to buy supplemental insurance for this, more power to them.

      "More power to them" would in practice require separating healthcare from employment entirely, which in turn means a completely publicly-funded healthcare system. Until one is in place, the employee should not be penalized for not sharing their employers religious convictions, which is what having to take another insurance amounts to.

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      Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.

    196. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by laie_techie · · Score: 1

      However, employers pay a large portion of the employee's health insurance. As the employer has a financial stake in it,

      No, they don't. The health insurance, as already stated, is part of employees compensation. As such, the employer has no financial stake whatsoever in it. It does not belong the them, it belongs to the employee.

      The company decides which insurance to offer, and pays a portion to the insurance company (my company spends over a hundred bucks per month on top of my own premium). The same insurance plans are offered to all employees in the company working at least 30 hours per week (or whatever ObamaCare requires). As the company is subsidizing a portion, the company can dictate which plans to offer. There is no discrimination. The company pays the same amount per employee with the same plan. If an employee wants coverage for something not covered by the company's plan, they can get supplemental insurance.

      they should be able to pay for a plan that does not cover contraceptives; if the employee wishes to buy supplemental insurance for this, more power to them.

      "More power to them" would in practice require separating healthcare from employment entirely, which in turn means a completely publicly-funded healthcare system. Until one is in place, the employee should not be penalized for not sharing their employers religious convictions, which is what having to take another insurance amounts to.

      How is the employee penalized? He is getting the same exact company provided insurance as everyone else.

      Let me put this into another context. Let's say that you belong to an HOA which subsidizes basic cable tv and internet to all members. If you want more channels, or a faster connection, you must open your own contract with the cable company and / or ISP. No discrimination is implied just because someone must supplement what is subsidized.

    197. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by dywolf · · Score: 1

      1-PP's funding comes under an older program meant to provide funds for medical care for low income people, particularly women, which is exactly what PP provides.

      2-The state of Oklahoma alone provides more than 500 million in subsidies and tax breaks to oil per year. We even had a budget shortfall this year, of 500 million...purely by coincidence.... When totaled up across all 50 states it except 14 billion a year, and that doesn't include federal give aways to the industry.

      3- Medicare/Medicaid are well known as being the single most effective and efficient sectors of the health care industry in this country. (not a debatle statement; economists and industry experts across the spectrum of the debate all agree and acknowledge that fact). While their costs are still higher than most every other peer country of ours, that effect is largely from the market distortion from the other half of the industry (private sector) that overpays by even larger amounts. This is best shown in the datum that in the US care costs ~200% more than other countries, but when separate into public vs private costs, Medicare/Medicaid is only ~50% above average compoarble nations, while private costs are more than 400% above that average. in short: it works quite well,a nd you don't know what the F you're talking about (as usual)

      4- The "highway bill" as you so ignorantly name it, is a bandaid, every year it comes up. the HTF is supposed to be funded via the federal gas tax. However it is one of the first places raided for the budget every year, with IOU's put in its place. Every year when it's about to run dry they do another stopgap injection of cash into it, or some other budgetary trick to keep it solvent. It's not a sustainable system.

      And no its not one of the largest government programs (again: pure ignorance on your part, as usual).

      And this last time it came up, they 'funded' it by essentially taking out a loan from private industry, to the government. A loan to be paid back, with interest. They are effectively directly funding private profits with tax dollars, even more blatantly than usual, when the fiscally and governmentally responsible thing to do would be to increase the gas tax to match the inflation since the last time it was raised, and then link the sucker to the economy, so it never comes up again and permanently end the cycle where the HTF gets more and more underfunded the longer time goes on.

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      The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
    198. Re:House loses most staunch Democrat by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      478 billion dollars for the 2015 highway bill. For the rest I will note you are just as wrong about them as you are the highway bill.

      http://thehill.com/policy/tran...

  2. Therapeutic by DigiShaman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Finally, he can devote more time to those A.A. meetings. It's both good for him and America.

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    Life is not for the lazy.
    1. Re:Therapeutic by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      I see him more as exclaiming "My people need me!" and flying away to rejoin the Oompa Loompas...

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      I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
    2. Re:Therapeutic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boehner doesn't need AA meetings, he needs Bottle-Tan Anonymous meetings. A conservative white man trying to turn himself orange is a sure sign of character defects. He should not regret his whiteness nor seek to close the door on it.

    3. Re:Therapeutic by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I suspect that once he leaves the speaker position his drive to drink will disappear. Herding cats would be easier.

    4. Re:Therapeutic by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Well the first thing he did was start singing in celebration, so... quite possibly.

  3. Boehner QA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Action: Boehner resignation
    Expected outcome: End to gridlock, new era of bipartisan cooperation, intelligent debate, and compromise.
    Actual Outcome: New guy is actually worse than Boehner.
    Result: FAIL

    1. Re:Boehner QA by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Expected outcome: End to gridlock, new era of bipartisan cooperation, intelligent debate, and compromise.

      Nobody expects that. The reason he is being pushed out, is that he is perceived by the right as compromising too much.

    2. Re:Boehner QA by MachineShedFred · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Great. So the new guy elected Speaker either does the same out of the necessity to keep the government functional at any level, or completely destroys the Republican brand with a new completely unnecessary shutdown which only ends when he capitulates anyway.

      We've seen this before, and it won't work. Boehner was right to get out now.

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    3. Re:Boehner QA by PvtVoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Great. So the new guy elected Speaker either does the same out of the necessity to keep the government functional at any level, or completely destroys the Republican brand with a new completely unnecessary shutdown which only ends when he capitulates anyway.

      That is the Republican brand now: get elected on a platform that consists entirely of refusing to do your fucking job. This applies to Congressmen, and all the way down to county clerks.

    4. Re:Boehner QA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great. So the new guy elected Speaker either does the same out of the necessity to keep the government functional at any level, or completely destroys the Republican brand with a new completely unnecessary shutdown which only ends when he capitulates anyway.

      That is the Republican brand now: get elected on a platform that consists entirely of refusing to do your fucking job. This applies to Congressmen, and all the way down to county clerks.

      Kim Davis is a Democrat.

    5. Re:Boehner QA by PvtVoid · · Score: 1

      Kim Davis is a Democrat.

      Show me one Democrat (aside from her) who is defending her choice to not carry out the duties of her office.

    6. Re:Boehner QA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually, republicans got elected because people didnt like what the government was doing, and wanted those things stopped. the fact that Boehner basically inverted the votes required to pass the iran deal by passing that negotiation authority bill got him canned. It was intended that the congress vote 2/3 FOR a treaty, not 2/3 to stop a treaty. When congress passes a budget but the president veto's it, its not a failure of the congress, they passed a budget. It's a failure of the president to negotiate, but thats not how the media plays it. I actually prefer when the govt can't change anything. less problems get caused that way.

    7. Re:Boehner QA by kqs · · Score: 2

      That is the Republican brand now: get elected on a platform that consists entirely of refusing to do your fucking job. This applies to Congressmen, and all the way down to county clerks.

      On the plus side, at least they're telling the truth while campaigning now. I still remember W campaigning on a platform of "fiscal responsibility, trustworthiness, and no nation building". Then we got the deficit, WMD in Iraq, and, well, Iraq.

      Not that democrats are perfect, but when they say they'll try to raise taxes and increase social spending, they ain't lying.

      But I'm amazed at the people who are mad that Boehner didn't singlehandedly dismantle Obamacare/taxes/immigration/the Kenyan Dictator. He didn't have the votes, so it turns out he couldn't. The new guy won't be able to either. I wish the people who wave the constitution would occasionally read the damn thing, and that includes most of the constitution-wavers on Slashdot.

    8. Re:Boehner QA by Skater · · Score: 1

      Republican "brand"...am I the only one that sees a problem with that term? Bush used it on Colbert a few days ago and it completely shut me off from what he was saying. Companies have brands. Politicians should have platforms...

    9. Re:Boehner QA by PvtVoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wish the people who wave the constitution would occasionally read the damn thing

      The same goes for the Bible, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

    10. Re:Boehner QA by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Kim Davis is a Democrat.

      Kim Davis is a batshit crazy superstitionist who allowed herself to be elected to a position she wasn't, and isn't, qualified to hold. Identifying her as a "Democrat" or "Republican" is about as relevant to what she's been up to as identifying a serial killer as a stamp collector.

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    11. Re:Boehner QA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Action: Boehner resignation
      Desired outcome: End to gridlock, new era of bipartisan cooperation, intelligent debate, and compromise.
      Expected Outcome: New guy is actually worse than Boehner.
      Result: FAIL

      FTFY

    12. Re:Boehner QA by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2

      Right, and Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz flew down for photo ops in support of her liberal ideology.

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      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
    13. Re:Boehner QA by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      It isn't even a compromise when you won't even fight for what you say you will fight for, but instead throw little temper tantrums and noise while rolling over and doing nothing at all. "We're gonna lose so we aren't even gonna bother trying"

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      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
    14. Re:Boehner QA by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      The Constitution hasn't been enforced in a long time.

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      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
    15. Re:Boehner QA by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Remember the old "You don't have to be a brain to be boss, just an Asshole." story? The Republicans apparently adopted that as gospel truth... For those of you unfamiliar with it:
      THE BRAIN SAID : Since I control everything and do all the work I should be boss.
      THE FEET SAID: Since I carry man where he wants to go and get him to do what the Brain wants, I should be boss.
      THE HANDS SAID: Since I must do all the work and earn all the money to keep all the rest of you going, I should be boss.
      THE EYES SAID: Since I must look out for all of you and tell you where danger lurks, I should be boss.
      And so it went with the Heart, the Ears, and the Lungs.
      Finally the Asshole spoke up and demanded that he be boss. All the other parts laughed and laughed at the idea of an asshole being boss.
      The Asshole was so angered that he blocked himself off and refused to function. Soon the Brain was feverish, the Eyes crossed and ached, the Feet were too weak to walk, the Hands hung limply at his side, the Heart and Lungs struggled to keep going.
      All pleaded with the Brain to relent and let the Asshole be boss, and so it happened. All parts did the work and the Asshole just bossed and passed out a lot of shit.
      MORAL: You don't have to be a brain to be boss, just an Asshole.

      --
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    16. Re:Boehner QA by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Of course she's qualified to hold that position... her family has ALWAYS held that position! That's how things work in a monarchy, titles are always passed down to one's descendants! The Davis's were CHOSEN BY GOD to lead Rowen County!

      --
      I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
    17. Re:Boehner QA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't make that a bet, there are plenty of dumb-ass Democrats too.

    18. Re:Boehner QA by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      Wasn't her son the only one of the assistants in the office who continued to refuse to sign marriage licenses?

    19. Re:Boehner QA by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

      Well, it's not like we didn't see this coming. Poor guy.

    20. Re:Boehner QA by PvtVoid · · Score: 4, Informative

      Kim Davis is a Democrat.

      Not any more!

    21. Re:Boehner QA by PvtVoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Constitution hasn't been enforced in a long time.

      As originally written? Damn good thing, too. Slaves counting three fifths of a person, no women's suffrage, no birthright citizenship, appointed Senators, poll taxes: the original constitution was a fucking shambles, and took quite a few amendments to get functioning properly as the foundation for a modern government.

    22. Re:Boehner QA by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      Damn, beat me to it.

    23. Re:Boehner QA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kim Davis is a Democrat.

      She _WAS_ a registered democrat ... not any more ...

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/25/kim-davis-is-now-a-registered-republican/

    24. Re:Boehner QA by PvtVoid · · Score: 1

      It's a failure of the president to negotiate, but thats not how the media plays it.

      OB: Tom Toles.

    25. Re:Boehner QA by PvtVoid · · Score: 1

      Awesome fucking timing on that one.

    26. Re:Boehner QA by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      Didn't we have a whole group of democrats dothat in Wisconsin to prevent Scott Walker's bill regarding government benefits?

    27. Re:Boehner QA by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it really makes me wonder why she was registered as a Democrat. How many other policies of the Democratic party did she support? Was it few enough that a couple of Republican nutjobs coming to her defense was enough to make her change her affiliation?

    28. Re:Boehner QA by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 1

      Expected outcome: End to gridlock, new era of bipartisan cooperation, intelligent debate, and compromise.

      Nobody expects that. The reason he is being pushed out, is that he is perceived by the right as compromising too much.

      QFT. The only people happier about this than the far left, are those on the far right. That should more or less tell you what you need to know. Shit is probably about to get worse, not better.

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      Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

    29. Re:Boehner QA by SpankiMonki · · Score: 1

      It isn't even a compromise when you won't even fight for what you say you will fight for, but instead throw little temper tantrums and noise while rolling over and doing nothing at all. "We're gonna lose so we aren't even gonna bother trying"

      LOL, the Republicans tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried to repeal Obamacare, but they just couldn't do it.

      But I guess 56 unsuccessful attempts to repeal a law doesn't count as enough effort for you. How many times would you have tried?

    30. Re:Boehner QA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of those county positions are run on name and party only. My guess is that her mother had that position before her AND was a democrat. That way, when her mother retired, she ran for that position and people see the same last name and party they do every election and voted for her.

      My other guess was that in her younger 3-divorce adultery days, she may have been more liberal and was a Democrat and never bothered to change it out of either laziness or to keep her name the same on the ballot.

    31. Re:Boehner QA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Slaves counting three fifths of a person

      For purposes of enumerating during the census to reduce the power of the slave-states in order to guarantee slavery's eventual elimination.

      But don't let the complexity of historical conext get in the way of your narrative (or myth-"thinking").

      And that eventual elimination was actually agreed-upon as a desired goal by the original authors, including the representatives of those southern states since at that time slavery was a necessity to many places--globally--not an optional exploitation so a few people could have it easier: hence why starving+warring African tribes were capturing and selling each other out of their homelands to ease pressure on their resources during hard times by the way.

      But I've never actually encountered anyone who rails at these things so simply who is actually a rational thinking rather than reactionary, so I won't try to address anything else here: just be warned, those of you who care for reason and truth, that this moron is simplifying and perpetuating deceptive myths for his politics.

    32. Re:Boehner QA by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      The new Tea Party plan is to dismantle government. This has long been a strategy of small government advocates, if you shut things down or defund departments they hope that people learn that they never needed the government anyway. So they are actually doing what they think they were elected to do, no matter how irresponsible it is.

    33. Re:Boehner QA by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Remember that in the south, the Democratic party was the staunchly conservative party for a long time. It only changed when the Democrats as a whole refused to support segregation, so the Republicans picked up the disaffected southerners (after a brief stop in the short lived Dixiecrat party). But not all of them switched over.

      Plus, it's frankly a stupid artifact of American politics that a political party is used to stereotype someone on the entirety of their political views. You are allowed to be anti-abortion and pro-union at the same time, or pro-life and anti-gun. So yes, you will find evangelical Democrats.

    34. Re:Boehner QA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know slaves as you state are not part of the original constitution -- and never were. The north wanted black people to be counted as 0/5ths of a person. Black people were only ever counted as 0 or 1. Never anything else. "Appointed senators" is not as you insinuate. It's about states rights. Poll taxes? Specifically disallowed by the very principals of the founders.

    35. Re:Boehner QA by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it really makes me wonder why she was registered as a Democrat. How many other policies of the Democratic party did she support? Was it few enough that a couple of Republican nutjobs coming to her defense was enough to make her change her affiliation?

      My guess is that she probably leaned towards the Democrats on the economic front, while being a social conservative. Similar to a Blue Dog Democrat.

      However, Kim Davis's religious beliefs are so extreme that this one issue seems to greatly override the importance of any other.

    36. Re:Boehner QA by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      That's what I thought, too, considering it was only within the past few years that she became a born-again evangelical.

    37. Re:Boehner QA by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      As originally written? Damn good thing, too. Slaves counting three fifths of a person, no women's suffrage, no birthright citizenship, appointed Senators, poll taxes: the original constitution was a fucking shambles, and took quite a few amendments to get functioning properly as the foundation for a modern government.

      The Constitution was originally written with the intention that it be changed. The rules for doing so are right in the original document. The Founders knew changing times would involve changing needs of the populace, and in no way did they feel like the Constitution should be set in stone. The 3/5s rule, women's suffrage, elected Senators, abolishing poll taxes, all of these were legal modifications to bring the Constitution in line with the desires of the populace.

      However, there's a difference between changing the Constitution and outright ignoring it. If you ignore it, then there's nothing to stop legislators, officials, and the general public from disregarding the portions you happen to like along with the parts you might consider outdated.

    38. Re:Boehner QA by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Mmm, a Ronald Reagan "I didn't leave the Party, the Party left me" type.

  4. I hate him but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If a tea partier takes his spot, it's going to be even worse.

    1. Re:I hate him but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a great day for this far right nation. Time to do the will of the people, not the deviant minority.

    2. Re:I hate him but ... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Time to take this great nation back from... umm... people who aren't me! Vote for me and I'll make this country great again. Not that it isn't great now, since it is the greatest place on earth, even better than Disneyland. But we can make it greater. So, I'll make this country greater again! And we'll get rid of deviants, we have to get rid of them because our democracy isn't greater enough to deal with contrary ideas.

  5. Speaker of the House Boehner Cashes In by Princeofcups · · Score: 2

    So which corporation will now fork over the board positions and stock bonuses that they've been promising? It's called cashing in. Politicians are doing it younger these days so that they have more time to enjoy their ill gotten wealth.

    --
    The only thing worse than a Democrat is a Republican.
    1. Re:Speaker of the House Boehner Cashes In by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Politicians are doing it younger these days so that they have more time to enjoy their ill gotten wealth.

      "Retirement" is kind of like a plea bargain, to escape prosecution before the investigators get too close.

      --
      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    2. Re:Speaker of the House Boehner Cashes In by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It looks like its Planned Parenthood.

    3. Re:Speaker of the House Boehner Cashes In by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is he resigning the speakership or representation altogether?

  6. Now what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that the far right gets what they say they've wanted for years... who will they select to lead them?

    1. Re:Now what? by rlwhite · · Score: 1

      Does it matter? They'll be just as crazy as the rest.

    2. Re:Now what? by SpankiMonki · · Score: 1

      Now that the far right gets what they say they've wanted for years... who will they select to lead them?

      The tea partiers won't accept anything less than one of their own as the new Speaker of the House. But since they don't have enough votes to acheive their objective, they'll simply shut down the voting process. I suspect we're going to have to live without a "second in line to the Presidency" guy for a while.

  7. Government shutdown ahoy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This pretty much guarantees a US government shutdown in a few weeks. Prepare your portfolios.

    1. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      Na. Boehner's not resigning until the end of October. We're good until then. After that, if a Teabagger gets in and starts grinding gears, the Republicans will lose the election because of it. I'd be scared shitless right now if I was a moderate Republican.

    2. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      I'd be scared shitless right now if I was a moderate Republican.

      All the moderate republicans are running as democrats, Clinton, Biden...

      --
      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    3. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      Tea Partiers grinding their gears really grinds my gears.

    4. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by PvtVoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A large and increasing portion of Americans realize that their financial health is threatened by immigrants and their very existence is threatened by Muslim terrorists.

      Please elaborate on exactly how "Muslim terrorists" constitute an existential threat to America. More people die if bathtub falls and choking than die in terrorist attacks.

      Many smaller, less stable countries deal with far larger rates of things like suicide bombings without their societies being destroyed. Is America that fragile?

    5. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by kqs · · Score: 2

      A large and increasing portion of Americans realize that their financial health is threatened by immigrants and their very existence is threatened by Muslim terrorists.

      Please elaborate on exactly how "Muslim terrorists" constitute an existential threat to America.

      Their evil clock kinda-maybe-bomb-like devices will kill us all! Or at least kill the people with bad heart conditions and worse brain conditions.

      For that matter, how is our financial health threatened by immigrants? By all reasonable studies, immigrants improve the economies where they live and work, and deporting all of the illegal immigrants would cause a major hit to our economy.

    6. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by chilenexus · · Score: 4, Informative

      My own financial health is far more threatened by outsourcing, H1-B visas, and the threat of removing my affordable healthcare than immigrants (those people this country was built out of), and the Americans in the cars around me each day are many hundreds of times more likely to kill me than any Muslim terrorist. America suffers more Christian terrorist attacks every year than Muslim terrorist attacks within our borders, but since Christians are the majority in this country, the news refuses to phrase it that way.

    7. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by desdinova+216 · · Score: 2

      so it's gears all the way down?

    8. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by mrchaotica · · Score: 2

      On the contrary; the only real threat to America and freedom is bigoted idiotic cowards like you.

      --

      "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

    9. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by quonsar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A large and increasing portion of Americans realize that their financial health is threatened by immigrants and their very existence is threatened by Muslim terrorists. They also realize that Democrats are encouraging these dangerous things. Tea Partiers, Republicans generally, and anyone not suicidal or delusional will vote for the most pro-America, pro-freedom candidate they can find.

      A large and increasing portion of Americans realize that their financial health is hardly threatened by fruit & vegetable pickers and that their very existence is scarcely threatened by terrorists of any ilk. They also realize that fear-mongering Republicans are encouraging these calculated lies. Your day of reckoning is rapidly approaching.

    10. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by director_mr · · Score: 0

      If you fail to see how Islamic Terrorism is an existential threat to freedom and democracy worldwide, there isn't a post in Slashdot that will change your mind. In World War II there were people that refused to see Germany and Japan as an existential threat as well. Simply because there haven't been successful attacks for a while on our home soil, does not mean there aren't real threats that need to be addressed around the world that threaten our interests.

    11. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      America suffers more Christian terrorist attacks every year than Muslim terrorist attacks within our borders, but since Christians are the majority in this country, the news refuses to phrase it that way.

      Citation Needed.

    12. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by tbannist · · Score: 1

      Many smaller, less stable countries deal with far larger rates of things like suicide bombings without their societies being destroyed. Is America that fragile?

      Yes?

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    13. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by tbannist · · Score: 1

      If you fail to see how Islamic Terrorism is an existential threat to freedom and democracy worldwide, there isn't a post in Slashdot that will change your mind.

      I'm more inclined to see people like you as an existential threat to freedom and democracy worldwide. The terrorists are able to kill hundreds of people a year, while the dickless cowards insist we need to strip the rights from billions of people to stop them.

      Simply because there haven't been successful attacks for a while on our home soil, does not mean there aren't real threats that need to be addressed around the world that threaten our interests.

      There are certainly real threats, but threats to "your interests" are not the same as "your life" and I consistently find it's evil men who seek to confuse the two.

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      Fanatically anti-fanatical
    14. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by director_mr · · Score: 1

      "people like me"?

      You don't know anything about me except that I feel that Islamic fundamentalism is a threat that should be addressed. Notice I have never said what steps should be taken to address it or what freedoms need to be limited.

      I find your post to be poorly thought out and internally inconsistent. You may want to consider reading your posts before posting them, and trying to figure out if they make any sense.

    15. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      You probably think Bernie is a "moderate democrat".

      --
      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
    16. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Eh, he's a sheepdog, keeping the 'hippie' money in the democrat corral. He works the machine like Lieberman did, to keep out independents that don't play ball. But yeah, the real race between republicans and democrats is being run within the democrat primary, but the Duck Dynasty Party still has to be considered unfortunately. It would be so easy just to turn our backs on the insanity, no matter how much money they spend.

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      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    17. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by SpankiMonki · · Score: 1

      You don't know anything about me except that I feel that Islamic fundamentalism is a threat that should be addressed.

      Well, we do know you feel a little more strongly than that. Something about an "existential threat to freedom and democracy worldwide"?

      Anyone with a modicum of critical thinking skills realizes that terrorism is pretty far down the list when it comes to things a westerner should be afraid of. GP's point is well taken. A little shrill, but well taken.

    18. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A large and increasing portion of Americans realize that their financial health is threatened by immigrants and their very existence is threatened by Muslim terrorists. They also realize that Democrats are encouraging these dangerous things. Tea Partiers, Republicans generally, and anyone not suicidal or delusional will vote for the most pro-America, pro-freedom candidate they can find.

      Only the gullible cowards who don't understand statistics.

    19. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      America suffers more Christian terrorist attacks every year than Muslim terrorist attacks within our borders, but since Christians are the majority in this country, the news refuses to phrase it that way.

      They don't phrase it that way because nothing canonical about Christianity calls for terrorizing others through violence. Instead the founder of the faith preached to be wise as serpents but harmless as doves--even as you are persecuted by them, lied about, reproached, even terminated.

      Muhammed on the other hand...

    20. Re:Government shutdown ahoy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having been to smaller countries I can tell you unequivocally that the US is far less worried about Muslims than they are. They have seen the effects of "Sharia law" and how Muslims have ZERO respect for the established law and customs of the country they are "immigrating" to.

      The US just doesn't have a large enough percentage for it to be an issue yet. You seem ok with people that openly say they want to kill you because you don't agree with their religion.

      Why are you guys so supported of Muslims? I really don't understand why you are ok with that theocracy. It goes against EVERY single thing that /. is about.

  8. Boehners everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ironically, his resignation gave the other representatives each their very own "boehner".

  9. Teatards Ascending by PvtVoid · · Score: 1, Troll

    Remember the 2012 midterm, when all the pundits declared that the Republican establishment had defanged the Tea Party? Bwaahahaha! They run the circus now.

    Sure, the Teatards will destroy the Republican party, but they'll do enormous damage along the way. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

    1. Re:Teatards Ascending by PvtVoid · · Score: 1

      2014 midterm. D'oh!

    2. Re:Teatards Ascending by xenotransplant · · Score: 1

      I couldn't help but notice that you're an anonymous coward.

    3. Re:Teatards Ascending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tea Farter.

    4. Re:Teatards Ascending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Wow, that's very witty, libfag. Right up there with "Faux News."

      Whether you agree with the OP or not, "Teatards" is incredibly more clever than "libfag". If you goal was to make the OP look better by comparison, mission accomplished.

      Oh, and these days "Faux News" is more of a description than an insult.

    5. Re:Teatards Ascending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Combining "Tea Partier" and "retard" into a single portmanteau "teatard" is incredibly insulting to retards.

    6. Re:Teatards Ascending by PvtVoid · · Score: 1

      Combining "Tea Partier" and "retard" into a single portmanteau "teatard" is incredibly insulting to retards.

      Mod parent up.

    7. Re:Teatards Ascending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I have a pretty low user ID but the password I have stored in my 12 year-old or so wallet doesn't work. So screw it, I'll post AC. Not like Slashdot is worth a cup of warm piss these days anyway...

    8. Re:Teatards Ascending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sure, but it's just stupid name calling which doesn't get you anywhere. Generally, that's how I tell someone believes their arguments are weak (I'm looking at you, Rush). Resorting just makes you look stupid. If you can't discredit their arguments while calling them by their proper name, Tea Baggers, then you're the weak one.

    9. Re:Teatards Ascending by PvtVoid · · Score: 1

      You had me going there for a second. Well played, Sir.

  10. Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters.

    1. Re:Slashdot by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      It's Friday. A slow day for nerds, news and stuff that matters. Political news junkies are having a field day.

    2. Re:Slashdot by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters.

      It matters to slashdotters. We have a huge conservative majority here; they need to know that Boehner is stepping down. Many of them will likely see this as a sign to run to their favorite gun shops and buy up as much ammo as possible, as this certainly will bring about the end of our government.

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  11. I'm afraid by rlwhite · · Score: 4, Insightful

    that this will leave the insane tea partiers in charge of the asylum that is the House of Representatives. It's like the last adult is leaving the room.

    1. Re:I'm afraid by Earthquake+Retrofit · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it's my general optimism but this could end up being a good thing for the party. When Rep. McCarthy and the Teabaggers take over, they just may screw things up so badly between now and their primaries that their own party dumps them for Republicans willing to compromise and get things done. Then again, I have interviewed thousands of voters over the years so I'm not holding my breath.

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    2. Re:I'm afraid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that this will leave the insane tea partiers in charge of the asylum that is the House of Representatives. It's like the last adult is leaving the room.

      It's the Tea Party that is trying to cleanse the Republican Party of progressives. You are probably a progressive, hence the cheap shot.

    3. Re:I'm afraid by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it's my general optimism but this could end up being a good thing for the party. When Rep. McCarthy and the Teabaggers take over, they just may screw things up so badly between now and their primaries that their own party dumps them for Republicans willing to compromise and get things done. Then again, I have interviewed thousands of voters over the years so I'm not holding my breath.

      The party has demonstrated a remarkable ability to find a new low every time it hits what I believed to be rock bottom.

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      Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

  12. Hopefully McConnell and Pelosi are next. by schwit1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Reid has already announced his departure. Too many career politicians. We need new blood.

    1. Re:Hopefully McConnell and Pelosi are next. by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      If McConnell left government forever I wouldn't be able to contain myself. Let him take his ill-gotten millions and go rot somewhere where it doesn't affect my life. He's the poster boy of what is wrong with government. And he looks and sounds like a turtle.

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      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
    2. Re:Hopefully McConnell and Pelosi are next. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well considering he was just re-elected by the self-evidently moronic electorate in Kentucky, I wouldn't hold my breath.

    3. Re:Hopefully McConnell and Pelosi are next. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fresh blood.. hmm the vampires must be circling

  13. Good tidings by blue9steel · · Score: 1

    I look forward to our new, even less reasonable speaker.

    1. Re:Good tidings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaker Ted Cruz.. nice ring to it.. one ring to bind them all

  14. Maybe he has a nire private reason too by Kwelstr · · Score: 0

    Boehner often cries when he gets emotional, this can be a sign of an underlying neurological problem. If so, there could be a hidden reason for his resignation. I am referring to Pseudobulbaraffect, that can be a secondary symptom from many other problems. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    1. Re:Maybe he has a nire private reason too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lots of people cry when they get emotional.

  15. Well, Don't CRY About It! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My god the man is orange!

  16. Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by dywolf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Boehner is a devout Catholic.
    Boehner invited the Pope to speak before Congress.
    During the Pope's address to the Congress, an address that specifically rebuked many Republican stances* Boehner has supported, Boehner was visibly crying.
    The day after the Pope's address, Boehner announces his resignation.

    We should wait and see what he actually does next following his resignation, but a part of me can't help but hope that he saw the light finally, that he saw the discrepancies between the faith he claimed, and the party he was part of for so long. One can hope.

    (*yes I know he chastised both sides)

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    1. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm with you. Pope Francis is an incredible man who has demonstrated an ability to change the world with the influence of his words. I think it was a crisis of confidence.

      I'm an Atheist btw. Considering calling myself Catholic though as a result of this Pope.

    2. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by cdrudge · · Score: 2

      My money is on he finally got a clue of the upcoming train wreck that will be the GOP and decided he didn't want to be one of the engineers driving the engine.

    3. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Give me a fucking break.

    4. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by ThomasBHardy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm with you on that. While I've never followed any Pope's activities before, his humble nature and the points he chooses to focus on have elevated my opinion of the man to nearly a point of reverence. The head of the church with a reasonable position on just about every issue he takes on? Remarkable This is a guy that I believe is truly seeking whats best for us all and sees the world as it is. Now if only more of us can follow his lead and release the entrenchment that has dominated for far too long.

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    5. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by REden · · Score: 1

      As much as I'd like to think he "saw the light" and decided to care about the already-born, I don't think that's the case. He would be much more effective if he used his position and tried to steer Congress to be in line with compassion until they voted him out (which would have also been a statement).

      I suspect he was planning this for a while, but stuck around until after the Pope's visit.

      I don't agree with many of his positions, but I do thank him for his service to the country.

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    6. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by tnk1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Possibly, but Boehner tends to cry at the drop of a hat.

      Certainly, there may have been a causal link between the pope's message and the timing of his resignation, but I'm guessing that its mostly cover so that he can resign with dignity before the imminent infighting in the Republican caucus caused him to get fired.

      He did suggest that he was planning on resigning until Eric Cantor got beaten. I can believe that because Cantor's loss was a big upset and it was likely that Cantor would have been an immediate front runner for the Speaker job. Boehner could certainly have decided to ride it out after that in the interests of continuity. I'm just not sure that it ended up helping, but it may have given him some more time to get someone else lined up who isn't a Tea Partier.

    7. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by kqs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm with you. Pope Francis is an incredible man who has demonstrated an ability to change the world with the influence of his words. I think it was a crisis of confidence.

      I'm an Atheist btw. Considering calling myself Catholic though as a result of this Pope.

      Calling yourself Catholic for that reason is kinda crazy...

      I agree that Pope Francis is an incredible man. I'm not amazed that there exist a few christians like him who read the gospels, rather than just the old testament and Paul. But I am truly astounded that the cardinals selected him.

    8. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Post hoc ergo proctor hoc.

      So your theory is that the Boehner had a come-to-Jesus meeting with Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, then Boehner saw the evil of his ways and decided he couldn't be associated with such filth anymore?

      Ha.

      More like Boehner held it as long as he could cause he didn't want to blow the news cycle for the Pontifex Maximus.

    9. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by quonsar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Boehner is a devout Catholic. Boehner invited the Pope to speak before Congress. During the Pope's address to the Congress, an address that specifically rebuked many Republican stances* Boehner has supported, Boehner was visibly crying.

      Boehner has invited THREE Popes to speak before Congress. It is something he has hoped to facilitate for many years. He finally succeeded, and I suspect that was a greater source of his emotion than any sort of crisis of conscience you may imagine.

    10. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I'm with you on that. While I've never followed any Pope's activities before, his humble nature and the points he chooses to focus on have elevated my opinion of the man to nearly a point of reverence.

      Yeah, he chooses not to focus on his ongoing misogyny, his ongoing disregard for homosexuals, and the church's ongoing relocation of child molesters (yes, that's still a thing) because those things all lead to bad PR. Instead, he talks a real good game about how people should be nice to people, without the church actually changing in any substantial way, and without actually delivering any edicts that would make it do so.

      Now if only more of us can follow his lead

      I can talk a good game and do nothing all day. How much will you pay me? I don't even need designer shoes, or a special car.

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    11. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work for the House Speaker's office so I am really getting a kick out of some of these replies. You slashdotters think you know what you are talking about but in reality, you don't. Trust me. This is how bad information gets around, because some slashdotters will believe anything they read.

    12. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by RoloDMonkey · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't count on it. Boehner is famous for crying: http://www.ibtimes.com/john-bo...

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    13. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by T.E.D. · · Score: 2
      I was going to disagree with you here. However, I just heard Boehner's statement. He said he made the decision last night, and he specifically mentioned the Pope's exhortation to compromise and work together (which to my mind was the most damning thing the Pope said to Congress yesterday). Also, there's this report from when he announced it privately to his conference:

      Boehner also told the lawmakers that Pope Francis' visit to Congress the day before was a crystallizing moment, according to the lawmaker. Boehner then read the prayer of St. Francis to the conference after announcing his decision.

      So yes, it looks like you were actually right on the money. It was going to happen eventually, but as to why today? The Pope did this.

    14. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by rastos1 · · Score: 1

      But I am truly astounded that the cardinals selected him.

      They are also deeply sorry now.

    15. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm an Atheist btw. Considering calling myself Catholic though as a result of this Pope.

      I call bullshit. Consider calling yourself a jackass instead.

    16. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the many years I've been on slashdot, I've yet to see you talk a good game.

    17. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by dywolf · · Score: 1

      Agreed and good points. One reason I phrased it as an open question, rather than flat statement. The truth is probably somewhere in the "a little of bit of all of the above".

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    18. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by dywolf · · Score: 1

      I am Catholic myself, or was.
      I stopped practicing soon after enlisting.

      But Pope Francis reminds me of the idealistic faith I was taught when I was young, not the American conservative flavored faith (re: hypocritical) I later saw in the adults around me calling themselves Catholic/Christian.

      I still don't think I'd accept all the Church's stances and teachings (such as regarding homosexuals or contraception); I've gone too far for that I think.
      But i've considered going to mass recently at the local Catholic Church, testing the waters so to speak, maybe even speak to the Pastor.

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    19. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by dywolf · · Score: 1

      Rome wasn't built in a day.

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    20. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      please point out for me when this Pope has ever been misogynist, homophobic, or condoned the sex abuse?
      he did just recently chastise some Bishops for that thing.

    21. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by SpankiMonki · · Score: 1

      I don't even need designer shoes, or a special car.

      Driving around in a 1984 Renault doesn't sound all that special to me. And this Pope doesn't wear designer shoes.

    22. Re:Coincedence or crisis of conscience? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      please point out for me when this Pope has ever been misogynist

      Well, he's anti-woman-priest, and anyone who's anti-abortion-rights (you can be anti-abortion if you like, so long as you're not trying to set laws over it) or anti-contraception is anti-woman.

      homophobic

      discussion of subject, puffpo but eh

      or condoned the sex abuse?

      The church is still relocating molesters, and the church still hasn't released its list of known molesters. The church is still actively interfering with investigations and refusing to give information. He runs the church. If he can't fix it, then he should admit that he doesn't run the church. He should be joining the public in demanding the release of those records. Since he is doing none of those things, he is complicit in the ongoing international child-rape ring known as the Catholic church.

      Actually, I misspoke. It's not all child rape. That's just what tends to get people on board, so I emphasize it.

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  17. Good Riddance by Streetlight · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh, wait. His replacement might be worse and the House of Representatives may get even less done. Now, it'll be interesting whether Boehner has lined up a job with an existing lobbying company or will form his own company. He'll likely make many millions, if not tens of millions, of dollars per year no matter what he does.

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    1. Re:Good Riddance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is it that lawmakers have to get stuff done. It seems to me that a more prudent course of action would be to pass as few new laws as possible.

    2. Re:Good Riddance by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Lawmakers can fix broken laws, and even repeal them.

      But you were just playing to the peanut gallery, weren't you?

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    3. Re:Good Riddance by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      Why is it that lawmakers have to get stuff done. It seems to me that a more prudent course of action would be to pass as few new laws as possible.

      This has to be your favorite Congress ever then.

      For me though, that's like complaining that the captain keeps steering the ship badly, so I'm happier when he's just drunk in his cabin and nobody is at the wheel. That might work OK for a while when the ship's mostly headed in the right direction already and there are no hazards nearby, but eventually there's going to be an obstacle that needs steering around, and when that happens you're screwed.

    4. Re:Good Riddance by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      His replacement might be worse and the House of Representatives may get even less done.

      The flip side is that far-right Republican in that job might actually feel secure enough to make deals and actually get laws passed. Plus, they are getting so little done now that there honestly isn't that much worse to get. The nice thing about being in the gutter is that there's nowhere to go but up.

    5. Re:Good Riddance by khallow · · Score: 1

      Lawmakers can fix broken laws, and even repeal them.

      They could, but they don't (at least in the US, probably true in general). There's been an extraordinary growth in laws and regulations over the decades.

    6. Re:Good Riddance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lawmakers can fix broken laws, and even repeal them.

      Although they can do those things, how often do they, really?

    7. Re:Good Riddance by Anguirel · · Score: 1

      The nice thing about being in the gutter is that there's nowhere to go but up.

      Don't be so sure... there's always the storm sewer. Or the guy handing you a shovel and telling you to start digging.

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  18. No president can raise or lower taxes by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Reagan also cut more taxes than anyone in history (dangerous facts)

    No president has ever cut taxes or raised them. That's the responsibility of Congress. The President can suggest tax policies and can veto them but ultimately it is up to Congress to actually affirm or deny them. Now admittedly the President does have substantial influence on tax policy but saying Reagan or any other president raised taxes is technically incorrect. You could correctly say that he supported a tax increase or opposed one and that would be factual.

    1. Re:No president can raise or lower taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ... and lets not forget that Reagan supported the tax increase only as a compromise with Congressional Democrats, who repaid Reagan by conveniently "forgetting" to uphold their promise to reduce spending.

    2. Re:No president can raise or lower taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reagan also cut more taxes than anyone in history (dangerous facts)

      No president has ever cut taxes or raised them. That's the responsibility of Congress. The President can suggest tax policies and can veto them but ultimately it is up to Congress to actually affirm or deny them. Now admittedly the President does have substantial influence on tax policy but saying Reagan or any other president raised taxes is technically incorrect. You could correctly say that he supported a tax increase or opposed one and that would be factual.

      Your snarky rebuttal is not 100% correct either. Reagan signed those tax cuts into law. So what did he do? He cut taxes.

    3. Re:No president can raise or lower taxes by dywolf · · Score: 2

      he was the driving force behind at least a few of them; they're his.

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    4. Re:No president can raise or lower taxes by jsepeta · · Score: 1

      i wish more people would credit the legislature for writing laws, and leave the executive branch out of it. it's not "obamacare", it's really "congresscare".

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    5. Re:No president can raise or lower taxes by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Ya but that's such a minor part of the law making process. That's like saying Steve Jobs designed and built the iPhone.
      But here in California we recalled one governor because he failed to renew a tax break and thus was accused of raising taxes.

    6. Re:No president can raise or lower taxes by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I think it was originally called Obamacare in order to discredit it. On the far right this works, since "Obama" is synonymous with pure evil. But on the left it's not seen that way. Those in the middle tend to just shake heads over the craziness of the partisans.

    7. Re:No president can raise or lower taxes by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      No president has ever cut taxes or raised them. That's the responsibility of Congress.

      The President can either sign a bill into law, ignore it, or veto it. Since it takes 50* Senate votes (assuming the Vice President is around for the tie-breaker, and is allied with the President) and sufficient House votes to pass a bill if the President approves, but 67 Senate and 2/3s House votes to pass if he vetoes, the President can be worth 17 senators and several representatives.

      * Of course, if there's filibustering it takes 60 votes instead.

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  19. Re:Boners are for cows. by ChrisMaple · · Score: 0

    Drop dead.

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  20. Do Nothing Congress by sjbe · · Score: 1

    His replacement might be worse and the House of Representatives may get even less done.

    Is that actually possible? Seems like the only thing they do is have repeated pointless votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act and de-fund Planned Parenthood along with periodically trying (and even succeeding once) to shut down the federal government over the spending cap.

    1. Re:Do Nothing Congress by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      If they do shut down the government, does that count as doing something? Or even more not doing something? It's so confusing.

    2. Re:Do Nothing Congress by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The PRESIDENT shuts down the gov't.

    3. Re:Do Nothing Congress by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's semantics, the President wouldn't shut down the government if there was funding but congress has not funded the government. The President doesn't have a choice in the matter unless he can convince everyone to work for free.

  21. Don't blame him by jd.schmidt · · Score: 3

    I probably wouldn't agree with Boehner 100% on a lot of issues, but is was pretty clear he didn't believe lots of the nonsense that came out of the far right wing of his party. I think it became too much for him to deal with.

  22. I never would have guessed this day would come by sootman · · Score: 4, Funny

    "... amid threats from more than 30 Republicans that they would force a no-confidence vote in his speaker's position..."

    Wow! I never knew politics could be as exciting as a Star Wars movie!

    I mean, yeah, the most boring part of the most boring one, but still...

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    1. Re:I never would have guessed this day would come by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "... amid threats from more than 30 Republicans that they would force a no-confidence vote in his speaker's position..."

      Wow! I never knew politics could be as exciting as a Star Wars movie!

      I mean, yeah, the most boring part of the most boring one, but still...

      Boehner is no Terrance Stamp!

  23. like drug dealers by Kennon · · Score: 2

    I would cheer but you know there's just another warmonger in an expensive suit standing behind him to take his place.

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  24. Lesson learned by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 2

    He learned just a one cannot herd cats, one cannot reason with the outright psychotics that the Teabagging Koch Brothers, et al loosed on the Republican party (and the entire country).

  25. Tea Party Frenzy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've waited a long time for this. You cannot exercise the power of the purse without shutting down the government. Let the democrat gubmint employees lose a few paychecks and the dems will be in a softer mood to bargain. Planned Parenthood is finished!

  26. The Pope Did It For Him by WheezyJoe · · Score: 1

    Boehner to Pope: "Holy Father, I can't take this anymore."
    Pope to Boehner: "Life is short, my son. Dump these idiots and learn to drive a truck."

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  27. Koch Brothers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Koch Brothers are unpopular with the Tea Party because they are weak on immigration. They are really Establishment types. The Establishment is being purged in real time.

  28. Translation / Correction by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    "The resignation will end a nearly five-year reign as speaker"

    Translation: "The resignation will end a nearly five-year reign as a lame, inept, orange-colored buffoon who couldn't get his own fucking party to back his loopy ideas."

    His "leading by resigning" strategy follows that of Sarah Palin and Scott Walker.

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    1. Re:Translation / Correction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not a fan of Boehner at all, but you're just full of shit.

      He was the one of the few knowing that compromise had to happen. His party hates him because they don't think he's right wing _enough_.

      Which goes to show you how fucked the republican party really is.

  29. So then by fyngyrz · · Score: 1
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  30. Good riddance. by jcr · · Score: 1

    He wasn't as bad as Pelosi, but he came pretty close.

    This is the best thing he's ever done for this country, and he could do us an even bigger favor by resigning his congressional seat as well.

    -jcr

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    1. Re:Good riddance. by alcmena · · Score: 1

      He did.

    2. Re:Good riddance. by Earthquake+Retrofit · · Score: 1

      http://www.npr.org/sections/th... House Speaker John Boehner will give up his seat in Congress at the end of October.

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    3. Re:Good riddance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the best thing he's ever done for this country, and he could do us an even bigger favor by resigning his congressional seat as well.

      -jcr

      He did. Do try to keep up.

  31. Well... by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    Goodbye House, Welcome Solarium!

  32. Not resigning from the House by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    only from the position of Speaker of the House. He'll remain a member of the House.

  33. Awww by msobkow · · Score: 1

    Awww. No more "Boner" jokes... :P

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  34. Re:Boners are for cows. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You first, dickhead.

  35. Send them a goodbye note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PLEASE post the following everywhere you can.
    When a politician, member of an illegitimate agency, or a C-level executive is leaving their job, there is a standard response that we all need to use.
    Just change the name:

    Dear Mr. Boehner,
          We The People of The United States of America cannot be more happy that you will be departing from your cushy job.
    Your tenure in the position was an amazing spectacle of poor decision making, the undermining of our Constitutional Rights,
    and a myriad of criminal acts in which a significant percentage were treasonous.
    We The People of The United States of America have been, and always will be ashamed of you, your office, your actions, and all of your decisions.
    Your presence in your assigned role provided a benefit solely to you, and no other person, plant, or animal in the known universe.
    You never bothered to represent We The People for even one whole minute in time, and yet you were paid hundreds-of-orders-of-magnitude more money than you are worth on any given day.
    We The People of The United States of America are in awe of how quickly you gained your position and then immediately made efforts to ignore your oath, and We The People of The United States of America.
    You have demonstrated incredible skills that governments in the 1990's USSR and 1940's Germany valued more than Gold, guns, and real estate.
    You would make the most skilled criminals, oligarchs, and communists blush with envy at your acumen in the position(s) you held.
    We The People of The United States of America want you to know the magnitude of irreparable harm you have done to us, our nation, and the Constitution.
    Had you not held the position you were in, or had you never been born then We The People of The United States of America would be in a much better situation than we are currently in.
    You are not, and never will be one of The People of The United States of America. You are the direct cause of many problems that We The People have to face every day,
    and most of us will never forget you and what you have done.
    We The People of The United States of America would like to suggest that after you depart your role, you should stay indoors and out of sight for the remainder of your pathetic existence.
    You live in a nation where you are the minority. It is only a matter of time before We The People of The United States of America will be 'moving' you to another, permanent location.

    1. Re:Send them a goodbye note by HiThere · · Score: 1

      That's too extreme. Even politicians occasionally do something good. Some of them even frequently try to represent their constituency.

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  36. Re:Making america "great again" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In case you couldn't tell, that was renowned political analyst Andrew P. Kowalski reporting "live" from his mother's basement in beautiful Syracuse NY USA.

  37. Flush More by JimSadler · · Score: 1

    One right winger down the bowl is not enough. We need to flush all of them down the bowl. On top of that the jerk is almost the same color orange as Trump. It makes me wonder if one lies enough does one turn orange?

  38. oh boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    republicans go into politics rich and corporate opportunitie$ waiting for them when they finally leave, on the other hand, democrats go into politics poor but leave as multi-millionaires no need for opportunities on the outside.

  39. You can't fire me. I quit! by Snufu · · Score: 1

    Writing was on the wall.

  40. Resign *AS SPEAKER* by mattack2 · · Score: 1

    He will resign *AS SPEAKER*.

    Nothing I have read so far has said he will leave his job entirely.

    I think that's very misleading, since without the qualifier, "will resign" means he'll leave the job.

    1. Re:Resign *AS SPEAKER* by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Speaker John A. Boehner, under intense pressure from conservatives in his party, announced on Friday that he would resign one of the most powerful positions in government and give up his House seat at the end of October, as Congress moved to avert a government shutdown.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/26/us/john-boehner-to-resign-from-congress.html

    2. Re:Resign *AS SPEAKER* by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Thanks, very informative.

      I know I read earlier articles that people had posted on Facebook, and they didn't mention he was leaving the House.

  41. As an european... by tiagosousa · · Score: 1

    All I read was "House Baratheon announces resignation".

  42. Its going to be glorious by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1

    There will finally be a gummint shutdown, freak out & piss off every indifferent voter dependent on gummint checks, freak out the commercial sector that depends on the gummint and banks to deliver a quarterly profit, JUST IN TIME for national elections in November!

    Go Tea Party!

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  43. Speaking as an equalist... by Cammi · · Score: 0

    Speaking as an equalist... This is a sad sad day when one of the VERY few people who is for Equal Rights for all (not just some), have to step down due to the MASSIVE corruption in the government. Go Figure.

  44. the big picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's amazing how petty all this will seem when Iran completes it's peaceful nuclear experiments and humanitarian missile program.

  45. Don't Let the Door Hit You... by BrendaEM · · Score: 1

    Good riddance.

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    1. Re:Don't Let the Door Hit You... by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      Indeed.

  46. A-Fucking-Men by nnet · · Score: 1

    Good riddance. You won't be missed.

  47. "So far right he's left" etc.: it's more than 1-D! by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    There are a couple issues the republicans have gone so far to the right that they actually accomplished a far Left policy goal.

    Politics has more than one dimension - and you can't make substantial sense out of it without using at least two. Whenever you have a confusing "so far right it's left" (or vice-versa) analysis, you're really in an at-least-two-dimensions situation. The right-left analysis has broken as a result, and an off-in-another-direction group has been misidentified as being "off the end" of the left or right side that the left-right-only "dimension-blind" analysts usually associate them with.

    If you're counting "tea party" as farther right than right, you've tried to squash 2-D into 1-D and gotten it wrong. (They'd be close to center on a left-right projection, and also contain {at least} two distinct groups)

    The two axes you want (both here and usually as a minimum-to-make-sense) are "economic freedom vs. control" and "social freedom vs. control" - but you can rotate the square graph 45 degrees and get a diamond, with left/right along the now horizontal diagonal and libertarian/authoritarian along the now vertical one, yielding the "Nolan Chart" of the "World's Smallest Political Quiz".

    The Tea Party ("Taxed Enough Already") started out as a libertarians-in-the-republican-party thing during the Ron Paul campaign, temporarily attracted (or was infiltrated by) neocons, (they had no controls to keep anybody from calling themselves "tea party"), attracted other anti-neocon republican faction members and lost most of the neocons (as the "tea party"-identified new congresscritters attacked the neocon-dominated party establishment) along with anti-tax people from the "left" side of the isle.

    Their main issue is getting the government out of your pocketbook, currency manipulation, crony-capatalist bailouts (which attracts some lefties), world-wide economic power-plays (world bank, foreign aid, ...), etc. This puts them a little right of center on the left-right axis, and way up toward the libertarian corner on the libertarian-authoritarian axis.

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  48. Re:"So far right he's left" etc.: it's more than 1 by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    Their main issue is getting the government out of your pocketbook, currency manipulation, crony-capatalist bailouts (which attracts some lefties), world-wide economic power-plays (world bank, foreign aid, ...), etc. This puts them a little right of center on the left-right axis, and way up toward the libertarian corner on the libertarian-authoritarian axis.

    More accurately, because their main issue is an economic liberty, they attract people from a broad region spread out near the libertarian-right side of the Nolan chart, and the region is big enough to include some of the more libertarian of those left-of-center - mainly those who recognize property rights or oppose crony capitalists because they're perceived as looting the rest of the people (rather than because they think property rights shouldn't exist).

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  49. Boehner a pinch hitter for President? by rlh100 · · Score: 1

    The Republican Presidential field is a demolition derby. Nobody is coming out unscathed. Boahner is retiring at the top of his game. He will have averted his second government shutdown, probably with Democratic help. The shutdown will come with the debit ceiling crisis in December.
    He enters the spring primary season at the right time, 3 months before June, fresh and ready to run. He presents himself as an honest broker. Someone willing to work with the Democrats to pass legislation. Rank and file moderate Republicans and swing voters can vote for him as a conservative who gets the job done. He kept the lights on twice. In November he runs as a centrist. Someone who can work with both parties. His only black marks are he cries in public and his orange tan. He would give Hillary a run for her money.

    What's scary for me as a bleeding heart liberal, is that he would not be a bad choice. Unlike W or the race to the bottom of the current gang of candidates.

  50. Teatard Canibals Eating Their Own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Boehner is among the most radical, America hating, government corrupting, fascist right wing political puppets of the corporapist oligarchy in the nation. After seeing all the crocodile tears he shed during Pope Francis' plea to congress for secular morality, humanitarian sensibility and de-polarized civil dialogue among our State representatives, I'm wondering if he didn't finally find some fragment of conscience buried deep in his self loathing heart that prompted him to resign. Not surprising to see how these rabid, teatarded, repugnantcon hate monger animals are anxious to eat any of their cannibal tribe that give off the slightest scent of civility and actual conservative values. On the up side, when an even more radically delusional member of the christianazi tribe of death is installed as chief cannibal and Speaker of the House, it will only serve to more clearly differentiate the dangerous, destructive, insane and deadly extremist teatard agenda from the ethical policies of civility and social conscience being forwarded exclusively by voices among the Democrats, and it will expedite the long overdue political revolution that is needed to cure our nation of the cannibalistic cancers of hate and greed that are consuming and killing it.

  51. This is simple by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    As a self-described Conservative Republican, my complaints with Boehner, McConnell et al are:

    0. Boenher stated that winning Republican majorities in the House and Senate would give him and McConnell the ability to pass legislation to accomplish the stated Republican goals of repealing the ACA, forcing the President to appoint more moderate judges etc., and enact tax reform to grow the economy.

    1. When the House and Senate (the Senate being the 'problem' fixed) were in fact won by the Republicans, Boehner then explained that without a Republican President, they could not get legislation signed into law, and lacking a majority sufficient to override a veto, they still could not do anything.

    2. Then Boehner explained that passing such legislation as even resolutions to temporarily defund Planned Parenthood couldn't be done because to do so would likely result in a 'government shutdown', which would further tarnish the Republican Party reputation, risk the presidential election, and so result in at least four more years of inaction.

    Why am I so disillusioned by this?

    - If winning Republican majorities in the House and Senate results in continuing gridlock, is the solution now to control the Executive and Legislative branches outright? Is this a reasonable expectation? Mr. Boehner, your requirement that this be done so that you can in fact govern is unrealistic and frankly wrong. You have failed.

    - And when given the Congressional majorities you said you needed, you failed to act. Even to send those bills we expected you to, for a certain veto, if for no other reason than to demonstrate the difference between the two dominant political parties. If there is in fact one.

    - Then, if for no other reason than to at least do what you said you would, you failed to pass even minimal legislation to accomplish what your constituents and fellow Republicans overwhelmingly demand. You have ignored your pwn party faithful.

    From my vantage point, Mr. Boehner acts the same way no matter the majority he has in the House, fails to act at all, and indeed continues to avoid either confronting or compromising with the Democratic Party. at least, we cannot see any meaningful action.

    If he will not act, and if he correct and without the Presidency nothing can be accomplished, then does it matter who is Speaker? I say yes, it does:

    > First, a new Speaker must begin meeting with Democrats. If a veto-proof coalition is necessary, form it. Find a way. OR report to us that indeed the effort was made, and so far individual Democrats refuse to consider compromise. This I doubt, but I'm unaware of even the effort by the current Republican House leadership. And no effort to show us that...

    > A new Speaker must make the point that traditional efforts, such as adding amendments to budget resolutions, are not 'Republican shutdown theater', despite the claim. If the House sends this to the Senate, and the Senate also passes it, the President then can decide if he believes this or some other provision is sufficiently outrageous that he will veto the resolution, let the government shut down as much as it will, and consequences be damned. Democrats in the Congress can then choose to compromise or not, and so register their intention to let the government fail rather than pass such intolerable provisions. Eventually one side or the other will surrender.

    > A new Speaker must at least try.

    --
    deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
  52. Why on slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is this even on slashdot? Has slashdot become a U.S.(-centered) political news site?

  53. Coren22 the hypocrite noob "eats his words" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)

    See subject & that quote from you (& a REAL SECURITY PRO seconds me http://it.slashdot.org/comment... hosts = good security).

    "So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)

    Tell us another one, hypocrite - You use admin priv yourself & how else could I programmatically update hosts minus it inside Windows, hmmm?

    ANSWER:

    I have to do it that way, to protect AND speed up users plus make their connections online more reliable!

    (The latter of which also functions to make users faster than adblocking alone, by resolving host-domain names to IP address from hosts cached in RAM locally - far faster than calling out to remote DNS & less complex + less overheads ridden vs. locally installed DNS (less power, & FAR LESS if done on a separate machine)).

    APK

    P.S.=> LMAO - "EAT YOUR WORDS" you hypocritical STUPID little technically incompetent troll wannabe security guru, lol... apk

  54. Coren22 "eating his words" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)

    Tell us another one, hypocrite - You admitted using admin priv yourself & how else could I programmatically update hosts minus it inside Windows, hmmm?

    ANSWER:

    I have to do it that way, to protect AND speed up users plus make their connections online more reliable!

    (The latter of which also functions to make users faster than adblocking alone, by resolving host-domain names to IP address from hosts cached in RAM locally - far faster than calling out to remote DNS & less complex + less overheads ridden vs. locally installed DNS (less power, & FAR LESS if done on a separate machine)).

    ---

    Aha! What's this Coren22 admits?

    "Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)

    See subject & BOTH quotes from you contradicting yourself!

    (& a REAL security pro, Aryeh Goretsky of NOD32/ESET agrees hosts = good security -> http://it.slashdot.org/comment... ).

    APK

    P.S.=> LMAO - "EAT YOUR WORDS" you hypocritical STUPID little technically incompetent troll wannabe security guru, lol - you're constantly trolling me, your post history shows it - NOW, you're getting a DOSE OF YOUR OWN MEDICINE (How's it taste? Better than how "eating your words" does I bet!)

    ... apk

  55. Coren22 "eats his words" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)

    Tell us another one, hypocrite - You admitted using admin priv yourself & how else could I programmatically update hosts minus it inside Windows, hmmm?

    ANSWER:

    I have to do it that way, to protect AND speed up users plus make their connections online more reliable!

    (The latter of which also functions to make users faster than adblocking alone, by resolving host-domain names to IP address from hosts cached in RAM locally - far faster than calling out to remote DNS & less complex + less overheads ridden vs. locally installed DNS (less power, & FAR LESS if done on a separate machine)).

    ---

    Aha! What's this Coren22 admits?

    "Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)

    See subject & BOTH quotes from you contradicting yourself!

    (& a REAL security pro, Aryeh Goretsky of NOD32/ESET agrees hosts = good security -> http://it.slashdot.org/comment... ).

    APK

    P.S.=> LMAO - "EAT YOUR WORDS" you hypocritical STUPID little technically incompetent troll wannabe security guru, lol - you're constantly trolling me, your post history shows it - NOW, you're getting a DOSE OF YOUR OWN MEDICINE (How's it taste? Better than how "eating your words" does I bet!)

    ... apk