No, there is another difference: Bell can choose not to broadcast a given channel, so they act as a non-neutral intermediary.
Now, should Bell choose to start non-neutral filtering, e.g. blocking or throttling content sites they don't want you to access, then Bell-the-ISP seems to become subject to the same rules as Bell-the-cable-company.
Are you trying to create a modern equivalent to the Nazi song "Das ist kein Mensch, das ist ein Jude"?
And not all life is human. Whether they believe in any variant of a certain dominant monotheistic faith system or not. So you totally missed what the point was. My suggestion: Stay anonymous and stay coward.
It's not "exploitive" as much as it's convenient compared to having to hunt for a place to live, knowing you will only spend a limited time there. Do you also attack American universities for having dorms instead of making students try their luck in the housing market?
That American workers would be left to look for their own place to live and probably commute long distances is one of the reasons you cannot move this scale of production back to America. That, and that you would need not only to move the assembly plants, but also the component manufacturing since that is often done in even worse conditions than at Foxconn.
By supporting Foxconn you are supporting the less exploitive factories. But to hope that China will adopt the "luxurious" working conditions in the West is as futile as hoping the U.S. will adopt the social-democratic health care of Scandinavia...
No, because labor costs is just one variable in the equation. Labor supply, for instance, is another. China has over a billion people, including millions that are perfectly willing to leave their homes for a year or two of living in dorms while earning 20% more than the average industrial worker in China. Where in the U.S. are you supposed to find that kind of work force? Should ex-carmakers retrain to become phone assembly line workers?
Apple did try to manufacture in America back in the day. The result was inability to meet demand, and higher prices. If Apple move back to the States while HP, Dell and Lenovo remain in China, Apple will just go under, and a bunch of Chinese will be out of work.
No, it simply is not feasible to produce the quantities necessary to satisfy demand in other countries. This has been explained multiple times: If you build a factory in St. Louis for instance, where are you going to magically summon 20,000 workers? China can produce that amount of workers in no time flat.
Here's how USA gets to decide China's labor politics: Invade and occupy the country, installing some puppet government that... oh wait, U.S. has tried that before and in those countries the conditions for people did not improve one bit...
Suicide rate at Foxconn: 18 per million workers. Sucide rate in the general population: At least ten times higher. The cameras would be facing out of the factory...
At least they are doing their part, but not enough to satisfy some socialist "spread the wealth around" Apple-haters.
Foxconn have thousands lining up for their job openings every day, simply because working there beats working most other places in China. Are you going to improve the working conditions for everyone in China, or is working at Foxconn going to be even more of a dream job than before?
Apple did manufacture their machines back home in America until a) the demand started to exceed capacity and capacity could not be ramped up due to regulations, labor shortages etc. and b) the Mac prices became twice those of PCs because all the competing PC manufacturers had moved manufacturing to Asia.
To move manufacturing from low-cost countries to the high-cost market countries themselves is a losing proposition.
Are you talking abut the Hindus that massacred 2000+ Muslims based on rumors that a train fire was caused by them? I guess massacres are not terrorism...
What do we do with Catholics, though? IRA and ETA prove they are also terrorists...
Couple of generations? Try "for centuries". For instance, then Catholic Spain expelled the jews in 1492, they found refuge in the (Muslim) Ottoman empire. Ironically enough. The word "ghetto" is derived from the Italian name for the derelict location that jews were forcibly relocated to. And don't pretend jews were well-treated in the United States either.
Mod parent side-splittingly funny. Color, colour or coleur - not that different when it gets down to it.
(Wonder instead what would have happened without the Louisiana Purchase, when Napoleon sold much of the U.S. to the United States to finance wars in Europe...)
To add to the Norway story, part of the reason for landing on F-35 was some vague promises of projects for the Norwegian defense industry, promises that appear to have been broken. Plus some strange arguments against choosing SAAB based on "we need to pick something our allies also use" - despite NATO member Hungary buying from SAAB and there apparently being no big issues integrating even the MiG fighters left behind in East Germany after unification... Not to mention, the Norwegian needs are for intercepting fighters if they are to be used for national defense, while the F-35 is designed to be supported by F-22s and thus is more likely to bee used in international operations.
But it appears even the U.S. politicians are starting to have major doubts about the feasibility of the money-drain that is the JSF project. The only winner so far seems to be Lockheed-Martin - supporting the theory that it's all about the "military-industrial complex".
I think it was refreshed after France refused to join in the Coalition of the Easily Duped back in the Iraq War days. You know, when George "nucular" Bush notoriously wanted French fries renamed into Freedom fries...
Or the expense. But for how long can the U.S. afford these neo-imperialist luxuries? Tax-payer money is funneled into the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned against.
You really need to redefine "victory" to call the soon-ending occupation of parts of Afghanistan as "victory". For instance, the redefinition could include "the enemy is still fighting out there". That would help.
The U.S. would not have helped the Serbs re-establishing Yugoslavia after fighting certain other Slavs (the Russians) for decades...
So CDMA2000 is going to take the glory for the use of WCDMA as base for UMTS? If someone wins an olympic medal, I am sure the winner's brother cannot claim he won...
GSM is only dead as far as 2G is dead; 90% of the world use GSM for 2G. The U.S. "consultants" were laughed at when they wanted to establish CDMA2000 as the Iraqi mobile network after the takeover...
Don't forget NMT (Nordic Mobile Telephone) which preceded GSM by a decade - except the phones for that started out not so mobile due to the battery technology at the time...
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No, there is another difference: Bell can choose not to broadcast a given channel, so they act as a non-neutral intermediary.
Now, should Bell choose to start non-neutral filtering, e.g. blocking or throttling content sites they don't want you to access, then Bell-the-ISP seems to become subject to the same rules as Bell-the-cable-company.
Maybe the broadcasters can just start counting
a) Any show or movie shot in Vancouver - a popular location for U.S. producers wanting to save a buck, at least until Prague got even cheaper
b) Any show or movie starring Michael J. Fox, Dan Aykroyd, Pamela Anderson, Jim Carrey or the many other Canada-born actors
Then the 10% should be easy to reach...
Are you trying to create a modern equivalent to the Nazi song "Das ist kein Mensch, das ist ein Jude"?
And not all life is human. Whether they believe in any variant of a certain dominant monotheistic faith system or not. So you totally missed what the point was. My suggestion: Stay anonymous and stay coward.
It's not "exploitive" as much as it's convenient compared to having to hunt for a place to live, knowing you will only spend a limited time there. Do you also attack American universities for having dorms instead of making students try their luck in the housing market?
That American workers would be left to look for their own place to live and probably commute long distances is one of the reasons you cannot move this scale of production back to America. That, and that you would need not only to move the assembly plants, but also the component manufacturing since that is often done in even worse conditions than at Foxconn.
By supporting Foxconn you are supporting the less exploitive factories. But to hope that China will adopt the "luxurious" working conditions in the West is as futile as hoping the U.S. will adopt the social-democratic health care of Scandinavia...
This is Slashdot. They all have a moderation of Clickbait and have had ever since the site became an ad server.
Workers get treated better when the workers own the factory. Vote Communist Party in 2012!
No, because labor costs is just one variable in the equation. Labor supply, for instance, is another. China has over a billion people, including millions that are perfectly willing to leave their homes for a year or two of living in dorms while earning 20% more than the average industrial worker in China. Where in the U.S. are you supposed to find that kind of work force? Should ex-carmakers retrain to become phone assembly line workers?
Apple did try to manufacture in America back in the day. The result was inability to meet demand, and higher prices. If Apple move back to the States while HP, Dell and Lenovo remain in China, Apple will just go under, and a bunch of Chinese will be out of work.
No, it simply is not feasible to produce the quantities necessary to satisfy demand in other countries. This has been explained multiple times: If you build a factory in St. Louis for instance, where are you going to magically summon 20,000 workers? China can produce that amount of workers in no time flat.
Here's how USA gets to decide China's labor politics: Invade and occupy the country, installing some puppet government that... oh wait, U.S. has tried that before and in those countries the conditions for people did not improve one bit...
Suicide rate at Foxconn: 18 per million workers. Sucide rate in the general population: At least ten times higher. The cameras would be facing out of the factory...
At least they are doing their part, but not enough to satisfy some socialist "spread the wealth around" Apple-haters.
Foxconn have thousands lining up for their job openings every day, simply because working there beats working most other places in China. Are you going to improve the working conditions for everyone in China, or is working at Foxconn going to be even more of a dream job than before?
Apple did manufacture their machines back home in America until a) the demand started to exceed capacity and capacity could not be ramped up due to regulations, labor shortages etc. and b) the Mac prices became twice those of PCs because all the competing PC manufacturers had moved manufacturing to Asia.
To move manufacturing from low-cost countries to the high-cost market countries themselves is a losing proposition.
Maybe he likes dry deserts better than lush forests?
Well, then perhaps installing these all around the world is the solution to over-population. :)
Pity trans-Atlantic boat trips take from half to a full month... otherwise they could have been an option.
Are you talking abut the Hindus that massacred 2000+ Muslims based on rumors that a train fire was caused by them? I guess massacres are not terrorism...
What do we do with Catholics, though? IRA and ETA prove they are also terrorists...
Couple of generations? Try "for centuries". For instance, then Catholic Spain expelled the jews in 1492, they found refuge in the (Muslim) Ottoman empire. Ironically enough. The word "ghetto" is derived from the Italian name for the derelict location that jews were forcibly relocated to. And don't pretend jews were well-treated in the United States either.
Is that from the "not collecting stamps is a hobby" school of illogic? Or the "not drinking alcohol is an addiction" one?
Mod parent side-splittingly funny. Color, colour or coleur - not that different when it gets down to it.
(Wonder instead what would have happened without the Louisiana Purchase, when Napoleon sold much of the U.S. to the United States to finance wars in Europe...)
To add to the Norway story, part of the reason for landing on F-35 was some vague promises of projects for the Norwegian defense industry, promises that appear to have been broken. Plus some strange arguments against choosing SAAB based on "we need to pick something our allies also use" - despite NATO member Hungary buying from SAAB and there apparently being no big issues integrating even the MiG fighters left behind in East Germany after unification... Not to mention, the Norwegian needs are for intercepting fighters if they are to be used for national defense, while the F-35 is designed to be supported by F-22s and thus is more likely to bee used in international operations.
But it appears even the U.S. politicians are starting to have major doubts about the feasibility of the money-drain that is the JSF project. The only winner so far seems to be Lockheed-Martin - supporting the theory that it's all about the "military-industrial complex".
I think it was refreshed after France refused to join in the Coalition of the Easily Duped back in the Iraq War days. You know, when George "nucular" Bush notoriously wanted French fries renamed into Freedom fries...
Or the expense. But for how long can the U.S. afford these neo-imperialist luxuries? Tax-payer money is funneled into the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned against.
You really need to redefine "victory" to call the soon-ending occupation of parts of Afghanistan as "victory". For instance, the redefinition could include "the enemy is still fighting out there". That would help.
The U.S. would not have helped the Serbs re-establishing Yugoslavia after fighting certain other Slavs (the Russians) for decades...
So CDMA2000 is going to take the glory for the use of WCDMA as base for UMTS? If someone wins an olympic medal, I am sure the winner's brother cannot claim he won...
GSM is only dead as far as 2G is dead; 90% of the world use GSM for 2G. The U.S. "consultants" were laughed at when they wanted to establish CDMA2000 as the Iraqi mobile network after the takeover...
Don't forget NMT (Nordic Mobile Telephone) which preceded GSM by a decade - except the phones for that started out not so mobile due to the battery technology at the time...