Well, does Flash have a built-in app for streaming or do you need to download some Flash app to do it? Why just the Flash plugin, why not demand Apple (and Microsoft) ship a bunch of other plugins while they are at it?
Quicktime Broadcaster is a measly 1 meg download, don't sweat it. Standards based and everything.
HTML5 is supported in Mac browsers (Safari, Chrome, Opera, Firefox) to the extent the vendors want to shoot at a moving dozen of targets. Microsoft support Silverlight, if you want that. But you do not have to have it.
I bet neither the Java (except the rotting carcass of an abandoned JRE 1.1.5 they mercifully killed in XP SP1 or thereabouts) nor the Flash installs were found on the Windows install disk though.
So it is "out of whose box". The OEM? I am sure there are OEMs that do not install those, and Apple is such a manufacturer now.
Why haven't Sony used the experiences from PS3 to lock down Vaio computers? Heck, why haven't Microsoft used their Zune success to lock down Windows? (After all that is what they are doing with Windows Phone 7 Series!)
Because they are different machines for different purposes.
One of the most popular app store out there - Steam - does not have Java or Flash games on it. Give it a rest - a store owner is free to choose not to sell some products. You can get your Flash or Java apps from other sources.
The JVM is 1st party. (But it will be deprecated for Lion/10.7, which means the last release from Apple will be JDK 1.6 and someone else must do the 1.7 and later implementations, based on OpenJDK or that Apache project or something. As long as Oracle lets them of course...)
Yes, downloading a piece of software packaged and tested by your OS vendor, from a trusted source with a key infrastructure to ensure you get what you're supposed to...
I thought the Mac OS X app store wasn't due for another three months?
The next OSX version is going to include an app store, functioning like the iOS store - if apps want to get in they'll have to be approved by Apple, and subject to whatever restrictions Apple deems fit - be they for reasons of performance (No flash, it sucks up CPU time) or economics (No flash - we couldn't sell $1.49 games if people could just put 'free flash games' into google and find hundreds of good ones there).
Sounds like Steam. I thought people liked Steam? There is Stream on the Mac, too. Do you expect stores to sell anything else than what the store owner wants to sell there? Can Hustler demand that bookstores sell their porn mags?
And Photoshop and other major apps are not going to go away anytime soon. There will always be a market for third-party apps, and Apple are not stupid.
Apple not shipping Flash or Java with their OS is no different from Windows doing the same to competitors' technologies.
*shrug* The iPhone 4 owners I know here in Norway, where the signal is strong have no problems with the external antenna that AT&T customers in the U.S. see.
It was important for Jobs' designoholism to have two glass plates, so they had to let the antenna out the side anyway.
Opera and friends are touting HTML 5 and related technologies as the application future, where native apps will be superseded by cross-platform multimedia thingamagogs implemented using the open standards that apparently all browser manufacturers are completely in agreement on and that will be finalized any day now, served from the magic of Cloud Computing.
This would make a native app store moot, since you would just go to some vendor marketplace using your browser and install a HTML 5 app locally, and they would run fine no matter what modern browser you used.
How is that different from e.g. Microsoft's ideas for a Windows app store? It makes no sense for company A to promote competing technologies to those that is makes itself. If Adobe wants to promote Flash they are welcome to. Sun were going to create a Java app store, but that appears to have failed miserably...
So what? Only 10% of even SIGNED authors manage to make a living at only that. Most authors, whether they get through the eye of the needle at a publisher or not (e.g. Harry Potter was rejected by five publishers before a small one took the chance) have to have a "real job" to actually make any money. And the royalties are relatively small.
With electronic self-distribution and channels like Facebook and Twitter you can make just as much money without lining the pockets of any in-betweeners between you and the reader/buyer. The publishers are shaking and with good reason.
Um, have you looked at the options when you "Report a problem" with an app? There are people who have had purchases refunded from the App Store after complaints, presumably on a case-by-case basis.
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Feel free to
1) Start such a business since you believe there is a market, and
2) Convince the regulating authorities and phone operators that such a device should be let onto the networks that your customers DONT own or control.
Please keep us updated about your success. And forget the failure of OpenMoko...
Well, for most practical purposes that is what is done here, except a third party gets to sit between Microsoft and the buyer...
Well, for the operator at least... :)
"Honey, why do we each have a $100,000 telephone bill?"
Given that Flash is often used as a container for H.264 video, and HTML 5 video can use other codecs, I say you are delusional.
Why would Oracle want to shoot their own foot off? Practically everything of software - except the database - from Oracle is written in Java.
Makes zero sense to kill it.
...crisper...? Huh?
Maybe they turn off antialiasing? :)
Well, does Flash have a built-in app for streaming or do you need to download some Flash app to do it? Why just the Flash plugin, why not demand Apple (and Microsoft) ship a bunch of other plugins while they are at it?
Quicktime Broadcaster is a measly 1 meg download, don't sweat it. Standards based and everything.
HTML5 is supported in Mac browsers (Safari, Chrome, Opera, Firefox) to the extent the vendors want to shoot at a moving dozen of targets. Microsoft support Silverlight, if you want that. But you do not have to have it.
I bet neither the Java (except the rotting carcass of an abandoned JRE 1.1.5 they mercifully killed in XP SP1 or thereabouts) nor the Flash installs were found on the Windows install disk though.
So it is "out of whose box". The OEM? I am sure there are OEMs that do not install those, and Apple is such a manufacturer now.
Why haven't Sony used the experiences from PS3 to lock down Vaio computers? Heck, why haven't Microsoft used their Zune success to lock down Windows? (After all that is what they are doing with Windows Phone 7 Series!)
Because they are different machines for different purposes.
One of the most popular app store out there - Steam - does not have Java or Flash games on it. Give it a rest - a store owner is free to choose not to sell some products. You can get your Flash or Java apps from other sources.
The JVM is 1st party. (But it will be deprecated for Lion/10.7, which means the last release from Apple will be JDK 1.6 and someone else must do the 1.7 and later implementations, based on OpenJDK or that Apache project or something. As long as Oracle lets them of course...)
Well, that was a lot of nerd rage driven by jealousy. "Nowhere Man" is playing in the background, too...
pt-getting packages is different since they are crypto signed.
Throw a nice GUI on that and you have an App Store of free stuff. Come on, Debian, have a slice of Apple pie!
There is also MacPorts' port application if you want to compile from source. Though the success rate of that varies wildly...
Yes, downloading a piece of software packaged and tested by your OS vendor, from a trusted source with a key infrastructure to ensure you get what you're supposed to...
I thought the Mac OS X app store wasn't due for another three months?
The next OSX version is going to include an app store, functioning like the iOS store - if apps want to get in they'll have to be approved by Apple, and subject to whatever restrictions Apple deems fit - be they for reasons of performance (No flash, it sucks up CPU time) or economics (No flash - we couldn't sell $1.49 games if people could just put 'free flash games' into google and find hundreds of good ones there).
Sounds like Steam. I thought people liked Steam? There is Stream on the Mac, too. Do you expect stores to sell anything else than what the store owner wants to sell there? Can Hustler demand that bookstores sell their porn mags?
And Photoshop and other major apps are not going to go away anytime soon. There will always be a market for third-party apps, and Apple are not stupid.
Apple not shipping Flash or Java with their OS is no different from Windows doing the same to competitors' technologies.
*shrug* The iPhone 4 owners I know here in Norway, where the signal is strong have no problems with the external antenna that AT&T customers in the U.S. see.
It was important for Jobs' designoholism to have two glass plates, so they had to let the antenna out the side anyway.
Opera and friends are touting HTML 5 and related technologies as the application future, where native apps will be superseded by cross-platform multimedia thingamagogs implemented using the open standards that apparently all browser manufacturers are completely in agreement on and that will be finalized any day now, served from the magic of Cloud Computing.
This would make a native app store moot, since you would just go to some vendor marketplace using your browser and install a HTML 5 app locally, and they would run fine no matter what modern browser you used.
Or are they just smoking crack?
How is that different from e.g. Microsoft's ideas for a Windows app store? It makes no sense for company A to promote competing technologies to those that is makes itself. If Adobe wants to promote Flash they are welcome to. Sun were going to create a Java app store, but that appears to have failed miserably...
Design an open system without copy protection, raised the price of the console slightly and drop the price of the games to $20.
You know, if there actually was a demand for this in the marketplace, and a way to do what you describe profitably, someone would have done so by now.
Then I compare FreeCiv to Civilization V and know why not.
Um, liberals despise fox NEWS. There is no despising going on regarding Simpsons, House M.D. etc. - i.e. all the non-news content they send.
So what? Only 10% of even SIGNED authors manage to make a living at only that. Most authors, whether they get through the eye of the needle at a publisher or not (e.g. Harry Potter was rejected by five publishers before a small one took the chance) have to have a "real job" to actually make any money. And the royalties are relatively small.
With electronic self-distribution and channels like Facebook and Twitter you can make just as much money without lining the pockets of any in-betweeners between you and the reader/buyer. The publishers are shaking and with good reason.
"Hey! Government!"
"I am not a government, but I play one in den Haag."
Um, have you looked at the options when you "Report a problem" with an app? There are people who have had purchases refunded from the App Store after complaints, presumably on a case-by-case basis.
Also, watch my Google Fu.
You read the Facebook updates from Spotify posted by your European friends. And then cry because you do not have Spotify.