It's incredibly, incredibly annoying to replace a boot drive in linux (although this is partially the fault of x86). LILO sucks.
Why would a normal user want to replace the boot drive? Isn't that a technician job? How do do do it in Windows? Do you just click on 'Replace Boot Drive' and it does it automatically? How do a naive user do it in OSX?
Why is a plain user messing up with LILO? Why would a normal user want to modify the LILO installation? Can a normal user modify the loader of any Windows install? Why would he do that?
XFree86 is an absolute abomination. I can plug as many monitors as I want into my mac and they all just work. Instantly. Right then. No configuration, no logout, no reboot, no nothing. And I can change resolutions, and all that other 1994 crap that Linux still can't do.
Hehe, I can plug as many monitors as I want in my Linux machine and they just... work. Instantly. Right then. No configuration, no logout, no reboot, no nothing. Also I can change resolutions. Have you used Linux after your 1994 failed attempt?
I plug in USB devices on Mac OS X, and they just work. No insmod, no 'find/lib/modules -name "*usb*"'.
You are just making yourself look like an ass. Linux has something called 'hotplug' you know? like 'hot' in 'auto' and 'plug' in connect. You know you connect a Sony handycam in your Mandrake Linux and a desktop icon appears so you can browse the compact flash card as it were a hard drive?. Did you know that is true for almost every other USB hardware?. 'find/lib....' that's so 1994, that's a 10 years old comment.
I download PalmGUI and hey, it just synchronizes. No effort.
You enter 'Mandrake Software Manager', enter 'palm', select the result of the search and click 'Install'. Done. It will be downloaded from the net or read from the CD. Is that simple enough for you?
Bluetooth synchronization with my cell phone just works. Right into my addressbook. Now my wife has all the phone numbers I have.
Haven't tried this, because I don't have any bluetooth phone right now, but I'm pretty sure it just works (as does everything else you are ranting about).
Do you maintain your linux boxes, or do you make your 8 year old do it? Does your wife fight with LILO or Grub, or do you? Do they load the drivers for the webcam, or do you?
I want to see an 8 yr old doing all that stuff on Windows or Mac. Why would a 8 yr old mess up with a working web cam (anyways, I just plugged it and it worked, it's USB)? Why would an 8 yr old boy mess up with Lilo or GRUB (it's working from the installation, and Mandrake installs it cleanly without user interaction whatsoever)? Why would an 8 yr old want to load the Webcam drivers? They are autoloaded by the kernel, without telling it to do so.
Hell, my 2.5 yr old can unplug the web cam and my 8 yr old can plug it back in, and the kernel will have unloaded and reloaded the driver, all that in the background while you are waiting for the 'fader' effect to complete in the selected menu.
For the money of a Mac i bought 3 computers for my house, running linux, and used by anyone. I'm sorry, but my 8 yr old can pretty much use completely my linux machine, even better that you seem to do.
I think Linux has a loooong way to go as a desktop OS. The word from LinuxWorld was "It's not quite there yet.." which means that other people feel the same way.
I'm really curious to know why do people keep repeating this crap? Linux _is_ ready for the desktop, and has been for a long time. What, no games? no Microsoft Office? no Photoshop? well those are _applications_. "The installation process is too hard", instead of using gentoo use Mandrake or Lycoris.
Heck, I've been using linux exclusively on my desktop (personal, house office and work) for over 5 years. Yes, I'm a geek, but my wife is not, and my 8 year old aren't either, and they manage quite well on the house computers running linux. They chat, IM, write office documents, play, browse the web, view flash animations, write emails and use the webcam.
I know the promise of Java was write once, run anywhere, but is this really the case in practice? From what I hear, so much depends not only on your platform, but also what version of Java you are using on the client computer.
Well, Java _is_ write once run anywhere. The only cases where your application will fail is when you make assumptions like
File f = new File("C:\\test.txt");
But that's going to be a problem in any language you choose.
I'm thinking about buying a Lada Niva. I've been in love with this car for a few years and now I have the chance, but I'm intrigued by the comment in the article mentioning them as bad cars. I have a few friends who have been owners of this car and, althought not the best car around, they seem to perform really well.
The new generation of Nivas comes with a motor that is 1700 cc, inyection motor (I really don't know the correct translation of this spec...), 4x4, air conditioning and few gadgets.
Is this car really bad? or is it suffering from bad PR?
Tell you what, you make college worth my time AND money, I'll do your goddamn assignments.
Holy crap. How in the world do you know what is worth in your education? You may have an idea, but guess what, your teachers know better!. Why are you attending school anyway? Sit all day in your computer browsing google for the "stuff that really matters" and save a few thousand dollars.
I hate to be the one that breaks this news for you but, the idea of going to school and the university is that the teachers (the guy standing in front of you all day) are experts at *teaching* stuff. Yes, how weird eh?
the office chooses to explore primarily the relationships and personalities of people in a small office and the lack of authority or system which allows an incompetent boss to reign supreme
This is a perfect example of why I don't like java. If I use java then I have to stick to the decisions made by someone else even if they are completely wrong for my situation.
But you are free to use yor C/C++ optimized functions in Java. Just make a wrapper class and access them natively, just like Java does access a lot of Math functions:
public static native double acos(double a); public static native double asin(double a);
Those are from the
StrictMath
class, used by the
Math
class. You did know that you have access to Java libraries source code, didn't you?
For real math/science stuff java is horrible
For real math stick with Fortran, SciLab or Matlab. For Real Time applications use C. No language will suit all needs. Personally I develop enterprise applications using Java and Games using C.
Also, what I find humerous is the whole NIO (new IO) stuff. basically Java started out using threads to deal with multiple IOs but due to scaling issues they developed 'new' IO which is basically the equivilent of select! Yeah thats real 'new'!!!
The tradittional IO subsystem in Java was a traditional one: sockets, streams, buffers, etc. It Is very scalable, just look at the Tomcat, Jetty and JBoss project before NIO appeared. NIO is just an optimization for very specific tasks, for some stuff you still need a separate Thread for each connection.
One issue with Java is it all depends on the Virtual Machine. I, for one, would _never_ trust Java in a mission critical embedded environment. In fact you still see assembly in those envrionments from time to time. Imagine using Java for a fly by wire system. Would you fly on a plane that was using Java for fly by wire? I, for one, would not.
Considering that the EULA forbids from using Java to operate Nuclear Plant and Air Traffic systems, you will never fly in a Java powered Boeing. But that's in the License, so your rant is useless.
Java is great for some things. But you get too many cases where companies use a new technology without adequate due diligence simply because its the NTOW (New Technology Of the Week). I still say that a server written in C (written properly of course) will outperform a server written in Java.
Of course, I can write every application only using 1s and 0s, avoiding every bloating in current programming languages and compilers. That's good and dandy for hobbyists and educational porpuoses. But when there's big $$ on the way you don't want to do that. Java suits those needs perfectly.
In fact I have a feeling that after the release of project Barcelona (this will allow to have just one full set of Java classes to be loaded, with every additional VM using the shared classes, reducing the memory use by every new application) it will be very reasonable to rewrite every network service available on a linux machine using Java. Without buffer overflows, integer overflows and other insecurities inevitably present in pointer-based languages removed you could have an even more secure Linux system.
What is interesting in these functions is that, as pointed in the article, there seems to be something wrong with Sun's implementation for Java. Removing this test JDK 1.4.2 executes almost on par with Visual C++ (the winner).
This is (once again) proof that Java is not slow, in fact it's really fast. It's slow starting, and yes, consumes more memory than native code, but the gained security, stability and ease of programming (reduced development times) are worth the memory use increase.
Also, the memory use should be addressed by project Barcelona (I believe these will be available in the forthcoming J2SDK 1.5, along with generics, enums, etc).
I'm not talking about forms, but a new input method (be it a drawing or a picture of your cat).
From a comment I posted below:
But a command line is not a textfield. That's a very shortsighted comparision. A command line is a prompt with commands, a history, external tools, and a lot more.
If I could telnet google and use bash+perl+grep+awk+anything else to make my searches it would be the best tool ever
But a command line is not a textfield. That's a very shortsighted comparision. A command line is a prompt with commands, a history, external tools, and a lot more.
If I could telnet google and use bash+perl+grep+awk+anything else to make my searches it would be the best tool ever
I tried a few searches on Vivisimo before it went live on slashdot and I must say I'm impressed. It addresses one of the main faults of search technology today: context. When you perform a search a tree is shown showing the different contexts (not categories) where the terms were found. Excellent for ambiguous concepts.
But, and here is the beef, it should be obvious to anyone that there must be a interface change in the short term future of search. A textbox is a very limited input to express a complex search. Using regexps and regexp-like operators is not enough. This Vivisimo is a step in the right direction, but there's a lot of way to go through.
For example try to make this search using any engine (Vivisimo, Google, Yahoo, Altavista, etc): who was the red-haired singer that recorded a song with Tom Morello a few years back?. At least I can't find an answer because one of the main aspects I'm using (the red hair) maybe is not as important as other aspects used to describe the situation by anyone else.
There must be a interface revolution in the years to come. Come to think of it, are we still using a textfield to express every possible combination in a google search? Gross!!!
How the fuck can anybody take you seriously? I'm amazed you forgot the dollar sign.
How the fsck can anybody not see that the goal of Microsoft is the complete domination of the whole Software Industry? Heck, even the Simpson's got that right.
And, BTW, I try to not use the $ sign. It's just for the occasions where the attitude is blatantly commercial or monopolistic.
Is in the hands of the PHB who thinks (by reading this news piece) future use of Windows 98 is forbidden. Oh, did you know that most computers are run within corporations?
But no, instead of reasoning with your brain, you are going to play the part of the anti-Micro"$"oft troll.
I believe that the one letting his brain collecting dust is someone else...
You are comparing Red Hat EOL with Microsoft's? They are in very differnt leagues. Any company (heck, if I even wanted to I could do it) can pick up RH source code (it's GPL, you know, as Windows 98 is NOT) and start providing support (that type of support that PHBs love so much and makes them sleep comfy: phone calls, patches, etc with a nice and elevated price).
Can you do that with any Microsoft product? No. Will Microsoft release a patch for the (100% probabilities to appear) next big Worm for Windows 98? No. Will you have a patch for IE? No. Can a company provide those for you? Even if they had all the fscking money in the world they certainly would have a fat chance in hell on doing it. Answer: YOU ARE FSCKED UP.
Heck, the answer isn't even to release the source code to the wild (a solution expressed by many slashdotters and that I, personally, think is the best for the users), just release the source to a support company (Norton/Symantec, McAfee, CA, anyone) under a huge non-disclosure agreement and let them provide a few patches for a few $$$. Is it so hard? I think, yes, because it goes against the "whole world domination plan" that's the real long term goal of Microsoft.
Why wasn't this been implemented before? I don't care a rat arse about terrorists this and terrorists that, but I have lost a few friends in airplane crashes. With these technologies available at least a decade ago (this project is an implementation of a few old technologies) why isn't this a major requirement for all new planes?
A lot of lives would have been saved if a plane would have at least a small database of known mountains in the flight path. Why don't our planes avoid mountains automatically?
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The problem is Microsoft _is_ a recognized monopoly. As a monopoly you must obey different rules because you can destroy any company you see fit.
Did Mark get to third base? :D
Great interview, it shows something I have been thinking about for a few years. Ever since the creation of the project you see developers assumming ...
What the hell, I don't know what the interview is about !!! I had to make a comment in here!!!! Is anybody in here?
It's incredibly, incredibly annoying to replace a boot drive in linux (although this is partially the fault of x86). LILO sucks.
... work. Instantly. Right then. No configuration, no logout, no reboot, no nothing. Also I can change resolutions. Have you used Linux after your 1994 failed attempt?
/lib/modules -name "*usb*"'.
/lib....' that's so 1994, that's a 10 years old comment.
Why would a normal user want to replace the boot drive? Isn't that a technician job? How do do do it in Windows? Do you just click on 'Replace Boot Drive' and it does it automatically? How do a naive user do it in OSX?
Why is a plain user messing up with LILO? Why would a normal user want to modify the LILO installation? Can a normal user modify the loader of any Windows install? Why would he do that?
XFree86 is an absolute abomination. I can plug as many monitors as I want into my mac and they all just work. Instantly. Right then. No configuration, no logout, no reboot, no nothing. And I can change resolutions, and all that other 1994 crap that Linux still can't do.
Hehe, I can plug as many monitors as I want in my Linux machine and they just
I plug in USB devices on Mac OS X, and they just work. No insmod, no 'find
You are just making yourself look like an ass. Linux has something called 'hotplug' you know? like 'hot' in 'auto' and 'plug' in connect. You know you connect a Sony handycam in your Mandrake Linux and a desktop icon appears so you can browse the compact flash card as it were a hard drive?. Did you know that is true for almost every other USB hardware?. 'find
I download PalmGUI and hey, it just synchronizes. No effort.
You enter 'Mandrake Software Manager', enter 'palm', select the result of the search and click 'Install'. Done. It will be downloaded from the net or read from the CD. Is that simple enough for you?
Bluetooth synchronization with my cell phone just works. Right into my addressbook. Now my wife has all the phone numbers I have.
Haven't tried this, because I don't have any bluetooth phone right now, but I'm pretty sure it just works (as does everything else you are ranting about).
Do you maintain your linux boxes, or do you make your 8 year old do it? Does your wife fight with LILO or Grub, or do you? Do they load the drivers for the webcam, or do you?
I want to see an 8 yr old doing all that stuff on Windows or Mac. Why would a 8 yr old mess up with a working web cam (anyways, I just plugged it and it worked, it's USB)? Why would an 8 yr old boy mess up with Lilo or GRUB (it's working from the installation, and Mandrake installs it cleanly without user interaction whatsoever)? Why would an 8 yr old want to load the Webcam drivers? They are autoloaded by the kernel, without telling it to do so.
Hell, my 2.5 yr old can unplug the web cam and my 8 yr old can plug it back in, and the kernel will have unloaded and reloaded the driver, all that in the background while you are waiting for the 'fader' effect to complete in the selected menu.
For the money of a Mac i bought 3 computers for my house, running linux, and used by anyone. I'm sorry, but my 8 yr old can pretty much use completely my linux machine, even better that you seem to do.
I think Linux has a loooong way to go as a desktop OS. The word from LinuxWorld was "It's not quite there yet.." which means that other people feel the same way.
I'm really curious to know why do people keep repeating this crap? Linux _is_ ready for the desktop, and has been for a long time. What, no games? no Microsoft Office? no Photoshop? well those are _applications_. "The installation process is too hard", instead of using gentoo use Mandrake or Lycoris.
Heck, I've been using linux exclusively on my desktop (personal, house office and work) for over 5 years. Yes, I'm a geek, but my wife is not, and my 8 year old aren't either, and they manage quite well on the house computers running linux. They chat, IM, write office documents, play, browse the web, view flash animations, write emails and use the webcam.
Well, Java _is_ write once run anywhere. The only cases where your application will fail is when you make assumptions likeBut that's going to be a problem in any language you choose.
Forgot to add a link to a picture of the new model. (sorry, it's a spanish site, but the pictures show the model I'm talking about)
I'm thinking about buying a Lada Niva. I've been in love with this car for a few years and now I have the chance, but I'm intrigued by the comment in the article mentioning them as bad cars. I have a few friends who have been owners of this car and, althought not the best car around, they seem to perform really well.
...), 4x4, air conditioning and few gadgets.
The new generation of Nivas comes with a motor that is 1700 cc, inyection motor (I really don't know the correct translation of this spec
Is this car really bad? or is it suffering from bad PR?
Touche
Funny, I have a nice job but I don't have a degree. But, I don't live/ain't from the US.
Tell you what, you make college worth my time AND money, I'll do your goddamn assignments.
Holy crap. How in the world do you know what is worth in your education? You may have an idea, but guess what, your teachers know better!. Why are you attending school anyway? Sit all day in your computer browsing google for the "stuff that really matters" and save a few thousand dollars.
I hate to be the one that breaks this news for you but, the idea of going to school and the university is that the teachers (the guy standing in front of you all day) are experts at *teaching* stuff. Yes, how weird eh?
the office chooses to explore primarily the relationships and personalities of people in a small office and the lack of authority or system which allows an incompetent boss to reign supreme
...
And that differs from dilbert because
1) I run a hardware firewall
... BTW, how do you use the computer after toasting it?
I think you applied the term Fire-Wall too literally
The ammount of gibberish in the mars-news.de site!!!!
Check the final paragraph of this page
One issue with Java is it all depends on the Virtual Machine.
I, for one, would _never_ trust Java in a mission critical embedded environment. In fact you still see assembly in those envrionments from time to time. Imagine using Java for a fly by wire system. Would you fly on a plane that was using Java for fly by wire? I, for one, would not.
Considering that the EULA forbids from using Java to operate Nuclear Plant and Air Traffic systems, you will never fly in a Java powered Boeing. But that's in the License, so your rant is useless.
Java is great for some things. But you get too many cases where companies use a new technology without adequate due diligence simply because its the NTOW (New Technology Of the Week). I still say that a server written in C (written properly of course) will outperform a server written in Java.
Of course, I can write every application only using 1s and 0s, avoiding every bloating in current programming languages and compilers. That's good and dandy for hobbyists and educational porpuoses. But when there's big $$ on the way you don't want to do that. Java suits those needs perfectly.
In fact I have a feeling that after the release of project Barcelona (this will allow to have just one full set of Java classes to be loaded, with every additional VM using the shared classes, reducing the memory use by every new application) it will be very reasonable to rewrite every network service available on a linux machine using Java. Without buffer overflows, integer overflows and other insecurities inevitably present in pointer-based languages removed you could have an even more secure Linux system.
What is interesting in these functions is that, as pointed in the article, there seems to be something wrong with Sun's implementation for Java. Removing this test JDK 1.4.2 executes almost on par with Visual C++ (the winner).
This is (once again) proof that Java is not slow, in fact it's really fast. It's slow starting, and yes, consumes more memory than native code, but the gained security, stability and ease of programming (reduced development times) are worth the memory use increase.
Also, the memory use should be addressed by project Barcelona (I believe these will be available in the forthcoming J2SDK 1.5, along with generics, enums, etc).
by wrmrxxx (696969) on 21:24 Tuesday 06 January 2004 (#7898961)
That must be the best User ID EVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And in the same note, no Microsoft tool can ever beat the productivity of Linux+Java+Eclipse+PostgreSQL+Tomcat.
... what's your point?
So
I'm not talking about forms, but a new input method (be it a drawing or a picture of your cat).
From a comment I posted below:
But a command line is not a textfield. That's a very shortsighted comparision. A command line is a prompt with commands, a history, external tools, and a lot more.
If I could telnet google and use bash+perl+grep+awk+anything else to make my searches it would be the best tool ever
But a command line is not a textfield. That's a very shortsighted comparision. A command line is a prompt with commands, a history, external tools, and a lot more.
If I could telnet google and use bash+perl+grep+awk+anything else to make my searches it would be the best tool ever
I tried a few searches on Vivisimo before it went live on slashdot and I must say I'm impressed. It addresses one of the main faults of search technology today: context. When you perform a search a tree is shown showing the different contexts (not categories) where the terms were found. Excellent for ambiguous concepts.
But, and here is the beef, it should be obvious to anyone that there must be a interface change in the short term future of search. A textbox is a very limited input to express a complex search. Using regexps and regexp-like operators is not enough. This Vivisimo is a step in the right direction, but there's a lot of way to go through.
For example try to make this search using any engine (Vivisimo, Google, Yahoo, Altavista, etc): who was the red-haired singer that recorded a song with Tom Morello a few years back?. At least I can't find an answer because one of the main aspects I'm using (the red hair) maybe is not as important as other aspects used to describe the situation by anyone else.
There must be a interface revolution in the years to come. Come to think of it, are we still using a textfield to express every possible combination in a google search? Gross!!!
How the fuck can anybody take you seriously?
I'm amazed you forgot the dollar sign.
How the fsck can anybody not see that the goal of Microsoft is the complete domination of the whole Software Industry? Heck, even the Simpson's got that right.
And, BTW, I try to not use the $ sign. It's just for the occasions where the attitude is blatantly commercial or monopolistic.
Where's the gun to the head?
...
Is in the hands of the PHB who thinks (by reading this news piece) future use of Windows 98 is forbidden. Oh, did you know that most computers are run within corporations?
But no, instead of reasoning with your brain, you are going to play the part of the anti-Micro"$"oft troll.
I believe that the one letting his brain collecting dust is someone else
You are comparing Red Hat EOL with Microsoft's? They are in very differnt leagues. Any company (heck, if I even wanted to I could do it) can pick up RH source code (it's GPL, you know, as Windows 98 is NOT) and start providing support (that type of support that PHBs love so much and makes them sleep comfy: phone calls, patches, etc with a nice and elevated price).
Can you do that with any Microsoft product? No. Will Microsoft release a patch for the (100% probabilities to appear) next big Worm for Windows 98? No. Will you have a patch for IE? No. Can a company provide those for you? Even if they had all the fscking money in the world they certainly would have a fat chance in hell on doing it. Answer: YOU ARE FSCKED UP.
Heck, the answer isn't even to release the source code to the wild (a solution expressed by many slashdotters and that I, personally, think is the best for the users), just release the source to a support company (Norton/Symantec, McAfee, CA, anyone) under a huge non-disclosure agreement and let them provide a few patches for a few $$$. Is it so hard? I think, yes, because it goes against the "whole world domination plan" that's the real long term goal of Microsoft.
Why wasn't this been implemented before? I don't care a rat arse about terrorists this and terrorists that, but I have lost a few friends in airplane crashes. With these technologies available at least a decade ago (this project is an implementation of a few old technologies) why isn't this a major requirement for all new planes?
A lot of lives would have been saved if a plane would have at least a small database of known mountains in the flight path. Why don't our planes avoid mountains automatically?