If Linux is using SysV code (which apparently it is)
Where the hell did this come from? And why is it 'apparent'? There has been NO evidence released publically to indicate that any SystemV code is in Linux. ZERO.
So stop spreading crap until a few more facts come out.
You've made quite a few comments along these lines. However:
they are doing it legally If they can prove that Linux infringes upon those copyrights
How do you reconcile these two statements? They have proved nothing yet. NOTHING. But you seem to have a direct connection to God that tells you that their licensing of Linux is legal.
Until they prove that there is copyrighted code, that they own under current copyright law, in the Linux kernel, their licensing scheme is a hair away from fraud. And if it comes out in court that they've been acting in bad faith, you can bet any companies that licensed Linux from them will be releasing the lawyers to sue them for fraud.
There are plenty of countries you can move to where it's illegal for a private citizen to own a firearm. Most of them are third-world shitholes
I find a lot of USians have this (completely incorrect) impression - as it happens, the majority of countries out there are perfectly nice places to live. I think you guys (a) don't get out enough and (b) are indoctrinated to believe that everywhere outside of the US is full of bizarre savages.
I do agree with you, but I just wanted to note that 220V power is offered in Japan for commercial applications (supermarket freezers, that sort of thing), as the current required for 100V to run these things gets a bit ridiculous once you exceed a couple of kilowatts.
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I love the comment, "[the kids] weren't feeling good about it".
Since when do kids have to feel good the WHOLE DAMN TIME?! This is the sort of ridiculous approach that leads to overprescription of Ritalin and other emotionally-affective medication, and the whole "think of the children" movement.
Why don't we just wrap 'em up in plastic, stick a feeding tube in one end, an elimination tube in the other, and leave 'em to hang for the rest of their lives? (Hey, didn't I see a movie about that?)
I believe the Japanese weapons were more fragmentary than incendiary, but my memory's not what it used to be. Anyway, one of those balloons was responsible for the only direct casualty of WWII on American soil.
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Bizarre... I'm not even from the US, and I've read every single book in all of those series. Truly eerie how people here seem to share the same experiences growing up.
In fact, I've got the two Mad Scientist book sitting right here next to me.
C'mon, give us a break - Safari is effectively irrelevant to the browser wars unless Jobs has a personality tranplant and sees x86 as the future of the Mac. On top of that, trying to pigeonhole Mozilla as an also-ran is rather ironic, coming from a Machead.
Linus has commented on this before (when someone asked basically the same question as you on LKML) - here's his reply:
The translations are usually _better_ than statically compiled native code (because the whole CPU is designed for speculation, and the static compilers don't know how to do that), and thus going to native mode is not necessarily a performance improvement.
Another problem he mentioned was that the Crusoe core can't be 'reflashed' to emulate another CPU in the production versions, so you'd need a special development CPU to do it. Not to mention that Transmeta haven't released the specs required to do this, anyway.
Well, Theo's endorsement isn't entirely wholehearted... from his T40 page:
One word of warning: although the Cisco Aironet 340 and 350 PCMCIA card is one of the better supported and most functional wireless cards in Linux world, the Cisco mini-pci version of the card has apprently very different interfaces and is so its support is perhaps the most primitive. This will hopefully change in the near future. Unfortunately, the mpi350 from Cisco driver doesn't support the standard Linux wireless tools API, so the standard iwconfig, iwlist, et. al, won't work. Instead only the propietary Cisco ioctl's are supported, so you have to use the binary-only GUI tools supplied by Cisco. Limited command-line management and status information can be accomplished via the proc interface, available via/proc/driver/mpi350/SSID and/proc/driver/mpi350/Status.
And from a different page:
Update 2003/06/26: With the help of Ted Ts'o web page on the T40, I finally swapped the unsupported internal IBM 802.11 a/b wireless card for a Cisco mini-PCI card (IBM P/N 31P8301) instead. This card seems to be the only solution to have a working wireless connection currently, except using an external PCMCIA card. In fact, the BIOS refuses to boot if the mini-PCI wireless card is not the Intel one, the IBM one or the Cisco one, for wireless regulatory reasons. The manual of the Cisco card is clear on the subject : Attention for the BIOS Lock Protection: The ThinkPad computers listed in the above IBM site are designed to operate with the proper wireless options. If you install an unauthorized wireless LAN Mini-PCI Card, your ThinkPad does not start and emits beeps with the BIOS lock out.
A friend of mine does this specifically to purchase stuff from Amazon in the US. Do the usual googling and you should be able to find something - "international forwarding address" might be a good search string.
The only countries I suspect an average American knows is USSR/Russia, France, Italy, and England. And Australia, I suppose. And for good reason. There is not one good thing from knowing where a European country is if one doesn't care.
So, you admit that the average American doesn't know where their largest (non-American continental) trading partner is? Or the second largest? Or the third largest?
Here's the answers for those of you who are American: #1 Japan #2 China #3 Germany
Screw 'em. If necessary, it'll be done the way it usually is with these things - add a compile-time flag to build the app without the security enforcement, or if Adobe objects to that, distribute a separate patch.
I'd say the same (I've been using a Thinkpad as my main laptop for just over two years now, and like you, everything in it works with Linux), except that IBM now have some models that will only take particular types of wireless adapters - apparently the current T40 is one of these.
Before you put your cash down, do your homework with Google to make sure that it will do what you want.
On the contrary, you didn't look hard enough at the search results.
Once you get beyond a few pages of the 'expires in XXX 2002' documents, you will find some that say 'Confidential - for internal distribution only'. This includes board meeting notes, memos on hiring practices, and presentations from third-party consultants.
I believe there are legal precedents where people have accessed documents that were intended to be confidential, but were inadvertantly made public, and have been judged to be innocent.
Try the method given yourself (searching for 'confidential') - there's all sorts of stuff there.
This PDF conversion of a PowerPoint presentation to what I presume is the board. Part the way through you'll find a group photograph, as well as things like this:
Vision......
- publication of independent reports e.g. McKinsey, Accenture, PWC
Yeah, I can imagine how 'independent' those reports are going to be.
Also, MIT might be interested by this line: "MIT is not best place for what system needs after adoption".
Chopsticks were most certainly not invented in America in the 1800s. Perhaps you're thinking of disposable chopsticks (although I have no idea when or where they were invented).
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it's up to the people being sued for non-compliance to prove that SCO is wrong
Absolutely incorrect. The burden of proof lies on SCO, not on the Linux community.
And speaking of lies, do you mind not spreading bullshit? Your posts under this article are all groundless until more evidence comes out.
If Linux is using SysV code (which apparently it is)
Where the hell did this come from? And why is it 'apparent'? There has been NO evidence released publically to indicate that any SystemV code is in Linux. ZERO.
So stop spreading crap until a few more facts come out.
You've made quite a few comments along these lines. However:
they are doing it legally
If they can prove that Linux infringes upon those copyrights
How do you reconcile these two statements? They have proved nothing yet. NOTHING. But you seem to have a direct connection to God that tells you that their licensing of Linux is legal.
Until they prove that there is copyrighted code, that they own under current copyright law, in the Linux kernel, their licensing scheme is a hair away from fraud. And if it comes out in court that they've been acting in bad faith, you can bet any companies that licensed Linux from them will be releasing the lawyers to sue them for fraud.
There are plenty of countries you can move to where it's illegal for a private citizen to own a firearm. Most of them are third-world shitholes
I find a lot of USians have this (completely incorrect) impression - as it happens, the majority of countries out there are perfectly nice places to live. I think you guys (a) don't get out enough and (b) are indoctrinated to believe that everywhere outside of the US is full of bizarre savages.
I do agree with you, but I just wanted to note that 220V power is offered in Japan for commercial applications (supermarket freezers, that sort of thing), as the current required for 100V to run these things gets a bit ridiculous once you exceed a couple of kilowatts.
I love the comment, "[the kids] weren't feeling good about it".
Since when do kids have to feel good the WHOLE DAMN TIME?! This is the sort of ridiculous approach that leads to overprescription of Ritalin and other emotionally-affective medication, and the whole "think of the children" movement.
Why don't we just wrap 'em up in plastic, stick a feeding tube in one end, an elimination tube in the other, and leave 'em to hang for the rest of their lives? (Hey, didn't I see a movie about that?)
I believe the Japanese weapons were more fragmentary than incendiary, but my memory's not what it used to be.
Anyway, one of those balloons was responsible for the only direct casualty of WWII on American soil.
Bizarre... I'm not even from the US, and I've read every single book in all of those series. Truly eerie how people here seem to share the same experiences growing up.
In fact, I've got the two Mad Scientist book sitting right here next to me.
Blah blah blah, blah blah blah - blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Blah, blah MAC blah blah blah. Blah blah; blah RULES blah blah blah blah blah...
C'mon, give us a break - Safari is effectively irrelevant to the browser wars unless Jobs has a personality tranplant and sees x86 as the future of the Mac.
On top of that, trying to pigeonhole Mozilla as an also-ran is rather ironic, coming from a Machead.
Linus has commented on this before (when someone asked basically the same question as you on LKML) - here's his reply:
The translations are usually _better_ than statically compiled native code (because the whole CPU is designed for speculation, and the static compilers don't know how to do that), and thus going to native mode is not necessarily a performance improvement.
Another problem he mentioned was that the Crusoe core can't be 'reflashed' to emulate another CPU in the production versions, so you'd need a special development CPU to do it. Not to mention that Transmeta haven't released the specs required to do this, anyway.
Nah, "Me" is an acronym - stands for "Mostly evil".
Well, Theo's endorsement isn't entirely wholehearted... from his T40 page:
/proc/driver/mpi350/SSID and /proc/driver/mpi350/Status.
One word of warning: although the Cisco Aironet 340 and 350 PCMCIA card is one of the better supported and most functional wireless cards in Linux world, the Cisco mini-pci version of the card has apprently very different interfaces and is so its support is perhaps the most primitive. This will hopefully change in the near future.
Unfortunately, the mpi350 from Cisco driver doesn't support the standard Linux wireless tools API, so the standard iwconfig, iwlist, et. al, won't work. Instead only the propietary Cisco ioctl's are supported, so you have to use the binary-only GUI tools supplied by Cisco. Limited command-line management and status information can be accomplished via the proc interface, available via
And from a different page:
Update 2003/06/26: With the help of Ted Ts'o web page on the T40, I finally swapped the unsupported internal IBM 802.11 a/b wireless card for a Cisco mini-PCI card (IBM P/N 31P8301) instead. This card seems to be the only solution to have a working wireless connection currently, except using an external PCMCIA card. In fact, the BIOS refuses to boot if the mini-PCI wireless card is not the Intel one, the IBM one or the Cisco one, for wireless regulatory reasons. The manual of the Cisco card is clear on the subject : Attention for the BIOS Lock Protection: The ThinkPad computers listed in the above IBM site are designed to operate with the proper wireless options. If you install an unauthorized wireless LAN Mini-PCI Card, your ThinkPad does not start and emits beeps with the BIOS lock out.
How many posts have I seen on /. bitching about how people can't get their hands on the latest games/PlayStation/laptop/gadget/whatever from Japan?
How many people in this article are defending business practices that prevent people outside the US from ordering from US companies?
Do I smell the scent of hypocrisy? Naaah...
Maybe the Belgian Post Office hates overclockers.
Hell, I do too.
A friend of mine does this specifically to purchase stuff from Amazon in the US. Do the usual googling and you should be able to find something - "international forwarding address" might be a good search string.
Perhaps they'd like to use the .us domain, then, instead of .com or other TLDs, if they're not willing to do business internationally.
The only countries I suspect an average American knows is USSR/Russia, France, Italy, and England. And Australia, I suppose. And for good reason. There is not one good thing from knowing where a European country is if one doesn't care.
So, you admit that the average American doesn't know where their largest (non-American continental) trading partner is?
Or the second largest?
Or the third largest?
Here's the answers for those of you who are American:
#1 Japan
#2 China
#3 Germany
Screw 'em. If necessary, it'll be done the way it usually is with these things - add a compile-time flag to build the app without the security enforcement, or if Adobe objects to that, distribute a separate patch.
I'd say the same (I've been using a Thinkpad as my main laptop for just over two years now, and like you, everything in it works with Linux), except that IBM now have some models that will only take particular types of wireless adapters - apparently the current T40 is one of these.
Before you put your cash down, do your homework with Google to make sure that it will do what you want.
On the contrary, you didn't look hard enough at the search results.
Once you get beyond a few pages of the 'expires in XXX 2002' documents, you will find some that say 'Confidential - for internal distribution only'. This includes board meeting notes, memos on hiring practices, and presentations from third-party consultants.
Read some of the documents on the site. They talk about scanning ranges of several meters.
I believe there are legal precedents where people have accessed documents that were intended to be confidential, but were inadvertantly made public, and have been judged to be innocent.
Try the method given yourself (searching for 'confidential') - there's all sorts of stuff there.
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This PDF conversion of a PowerPoint presentation to what I presume is the board. Part the way through you'll find a group photograph, as well as things like this:
Vision
- publication of independent reports e.g. McKinsey, Accenture, PWC
Yeah, I can imagine how 'independent' those reports are going to be.
Also, MIT might be interested by this line: "MIT is not best place for what system needs after adoption".
Since it's not likely that Linksys have added 14MB worth of changes to the kernel, I'd say you've done something wrong.
Chopsticks were most certainly not invented in America in the 1800s.
Perhaps you're thinking of disposable chopsticks (although I have no idea when or where they were invented).