Not to mention that you might be able to make a little/all of that money back by a little ad on the page.
(Not sure how feasable that is, as I've never tried to put ads on any of my pages before)
Anyways, I think that it would be one of the most effective ways of getting the word out... assuming:
1) The commercial could be placed on a relatively high-traffic network where people could see it. 2) The DVD commies don't threaten the company who airs it. 3) The DVD commies don't threaten the person who makes it.
Every 'innocent' that sees it is going to see the 2600 URL splashed across the last few seconds of the spot, say to him/herself 'What the hell was that? Must be some computer thingie.' and promptly ask the well-informed geek down the street.
Probably not.
Every time you see a commercial that you don't understand because you're not interested in the subject material, do you go out and ask someone who knows what it means?
I'm guessing no. Why? 'Cause if you're not interested, it'll be pretty darn boring to hear the explanation, so you don't bother.
This is most likely what will going on in their heads. "I don't understand this computer stuff. It's prolly too boring to ask about, though, so I won't bother."
If he got the slot for free, wouldn't it have been much more worthwhile to tell people why the source was made instead of just showing it? We see those NRA commercials all the time here that get their point across in a short amount of time. How difficult would it be to make an anti-DVD commercial? Even if they just grazed the top of the subject, they could give a website at the end for people to go to get more info...
Is the DVD goons trying to force anybody who dares try to air that commercial to not do it. Hell, if they could get the guy who wrote it to be thrown in jail, then I'm sure that this is a piece of cake for 'em.
Anyways, though, who's going to bother to slow down the playback of this code to look at it when they could just go on the internet and find it?
And if their major goal isn't to get the code out, but to inform the public, then they seem to be missing the ball again. I saw no mention of saying why the code was useful or what the DVD guys are doing that made it necessary to write the code. I think that the advertising money would be MUCH more well spent on those areas...
Hmm, I wonder if anybody can round up enough money to air a commercial like that in the US? I'm sure that there's SOME station out there that will air it...
I believe the movie that you mentioned would be Johnny Mnemonic. The cure for the disease that you're talking about (NAS, or Neural Attenuation Syndrome.. also called the 'black shakes') was placed into Keaneaueaueuua Reeves' head then when they got it out was broadcast similarly to this over TV... but not quite as a television commercial... If I recall correctly, it was over a pirate channel.
Sorry, had to get the specifics out there, 'tis a great movie for any ShadowRun fan... =)
The problem with the MS box is, however, that it's going to be less powerful than the PSX2 and come out way later -- not to mention that right now we haven't heard of any support from the major game companies.
I know it's still very early in the game to be making assumptions like this, but things aren't looking up for MS.
The only thing that MS seems to have going for them is the name recognition. Since the console is being pushed as a gaming box, though... (an area in which MS hasn't been too successful in...) I'm pretty skeptical...
we shall see, however... stranger things have happened...
I never said that it wasn't possible to be a consoler and PC junkie at the same time.
What I was saying was that the people who really don't have much of a clue what they're doing will stick to their PCs instead of switching over to something that they have absolutely no experience with/knowledge about.
Actually, most of the ignorant masses will probably just stick with their plain old computer rather than go out and buy any one of these consoles.
Since they're being pushed as gaming machines, this pretty much divides the users into two groups: gamers and kids.
Kids will most likely want the Dolphin because it'll have the Pokemon games -- they won't care what the console can do as long as it has Pokemon. (Or whatever big fad Nintendo acquires next...)
The gamers will actually look at the games, and (from what I've seen outta the gaming community) the PSX2 looks like the biggest contender.
Still, we'll have to see what's actually going on when everything comes out, but I don't see that much of a future for the X-Box.
Question: What's the difference between a fan of say, "Neon Genesis Evangelion" telling people who like other anime series that what they like is for dorks and someone who likes Jesus telling people who are in other religions that they are dorks?
The difference is that the Eva fan doesn't go out and actively preach that what they like is the ONLY *REAL* anime, and that if anyone watches anything else, the allmighty god Gainax will smite them and they will burn in hell for the rest of eternity.
You know, I heard somewhere that anime is starting to be uncool again, just like it was when I was watching Star Blazers back in the 70's, you wouldn't want to be caught being into something uncool would you? The new fad is those "cup-and-ball" games, you'll be really cool if you leave anime to dorks like me and get into that.
I don't watch Anime because I "think it's cool". I watch it because my (now ex) girlfriend introduced me to it and I liked it.
You apparently think you're better than the people who have just gotten into anime. Not all people who have recently started watching it are doing it just to look cool. Some of us actually watch because we like it... If anime is going to be un-cool, then so be it. It's what I like, and I frankly could care less whether people think I'm 'cool' or not because of it.
Just because my 2+ years pales in comparison to your 20+ years, it doesn't mean that I'm merely a wannabe.
You have no proof to the contrary either so why are you trying to justify your anti-Christian bigotry?
I'm not anti-christian. I'm anti-people-like-you. I think that christians are totally fine, so long as they aren't like you and refuse to see anyone else's point of view. People like you HAVE to think that just because everyone else doesn't share your same beliefs that they're going to hell and that's the end of it.
It's people like you that give Christians a bad name in the mind of a lot of people.
Of course, here you are trying to portray yourself as a wonderfully tolerant and open minded person who wouldn't dream of spitting on someone who didn't happen to share your tastes in things.
I wouldn't dream of spitting on someone who didn't happen to share my tastes in things.
HOWEVER I certainly *DO* spit on people who try to force their beliefs on others. There's a big difference.
BZZZT! Wrong! Nice try, but morality is handed down to us from God through the Bible, and as such anyone who does not live their lives in accordance with the Bible's teachings is inherently non-moral. They can try as hard as they like to be good people, but they are still destined for Hell after they die. I'm sorry if this offends you, but it is the truth. Your anti-Christian "ethics" will not aid you in the afterlife.
Wow, that really sucks that a good majority of the world is going to 'hell'.
And just because someone isn't Christian doesn't mean that they don't believe in the morals that the bible teaches. I'll be the first to admit that the bible definitely has a lot of good stuff in it.
*HOWEVER* I don't have to be a christian to realize this.
Also... it's the truth according to who? You? A bunch of your conformist sheep? Well, I have some news for you. Just because you believe in something doesn't mean that it's the 'one true way'. Also, what if their *IS* no afterlife? Hm? You have no proof that any of this exists, so stop trying to force everyone to believe what you're saying.
A storybook created by some guy off in the middle of nowhere that had too much time on his hands.
and on a side note... you're condemning socialism and communism, yet begging for everyone to become equal through Chrstianity... did you ever stop and realize that the *GOAL* of communism is for everyone to become equal? Therefore... christianity = communism?
Get your head out of the '60s. This is the year 2000.
So rather than allowing the artist's music to become more widespread, allowing them to become more recognized = more attendence at concerts = much more revenue... you would prefer them to get the measly amount they get from record sales, and help the huge corporations as well?
People are allowed to have different opinions from those of the/. sheep herd, even if you don't like them. People like you who just accept the party line make me sick.
Geez, you are such a hypocritical idiot.
Allow me to rephrase that a bit.
People are allowed to have different opinions from those of the Christian sheep herd, even if you don't like them. People like you who just accept the party line make me sick.
There are non-christians on this world. Shitloads of them. Stop being so damned ignorant and realize this.
All decent American's are Christians, which is why America is the greatest nation on Earth.
You need some serious help if you actually believe that. What I've noticed is that a lot of people who are athiest/buddhist/other non-christian religions are some of the most moral people I know, while some of the Christians just use their religion to justify a lack of morality -- See also: gay bashers, racists... Christians like you are some of the most closed-minded people on this planet.
Morality and non-christianity are not mutually exclusive.
So you are in favour of race-hate campaigns, terrorist propagranda and bigotry in all its forms? People like you that whine about "freedom of information" are contributing to the moral decay of our country.
While I don't believe that any of these things are good, some people firmly believe that they are. It may be moral decay to you, but to them, it's the way things should be. Who are you to tell them what to believe in?
Err, oh, wait. I forgot, telling people what they should believe in is the thing that Christians do best.
It's your kind of attitude that has corrupted the moral's of this generation of Americans and led to the rise of anti-Christian icons like Marilyn Manson.
... and this is a very very good thing.
or are you forgetting that America was founded on the belief that people should have freedom of religion? That's why everyone came over here in the first place. This isn't America, the land of the Christians. It's America the land of the (supposedly) free.
You call him communistic, but have you ever thought about all the parallels between (the bad view of) communism and christianity...?
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Not to mention that you might be able to make a little/all of that money back by a little ad on the page.
(Not sure how feasable that is, as I've never tried to put ads on any of my pages before)
Anyways, I think that it would be one of the most effective ways of getting the word out... assuming:
1) The commercial could be placed on a relatively high-traffic network where people could see it.
2) The DVD commies don't threaten the company who airs it.
3) The DVD commies don't threaten the person who makes it.
-- Dr. Eldarion --
You don't NEED to show all of the issues in the 15 seconds. Something that (I think) would work extremely well would be something to the effect of:
The MPAA is screwing you over with DVD, go to this website to find out how.
-- Dr. Eldarion --
Every 'innocent' that sees it is going to see the 2600 URL splashed across the last few seconds of the spot, say to him/herself 'What the hell was that? Must be some computer thingie.' and promptly ask the well-informed geek down the street.
Probably not.
Every time you see a commercial that you don't understand because you're not interested in the subject material, do you go out and ask someone who knows what it means?
I'm guessing no. Why? 'Cause if you're not interested, it'll be pretty darn boring to hear the explanation, so you don't bother.
This is most likely what will going on in their heads. "I don't understand this computer stuff. It's prolly too boring to ask about, though, so I won't bother."
-- Dr. Eldarion --
If he got the slot for free, wouldn't it have been much more worthwhile to tell people why the source was made instead of just showing it? We see those NRA commercials all the time here that get their point across in a short amount of time. How difficult would it be to make an anti-DVD commercial? Even if they just grazed the top of the subject, they could give a website at the end for people to go to get more info...
-- Dr. Eldarion --
Is the DVD goons trying to force anybody who dares try to air that commercial to not do it. Hell, if they could get the guy who wrote it to be thrown in jail, then I'm sure that this is a piece of cake for 'em.
Anyways, though, who's going to bother to slow down the playback of this code to look at it when they could just go on the internet and find it?
And if their major goal isn't to get the code out, but to inform the public, then they seem to be missing the ball again. I saw no mention of saying why the code was useful or what the DVD guys are doing that made it necessary to write the code. I think that the advertising money would be MUCH more well spent on those areas...
Hmm, I wonder if anybody can round up enough money to air a commercial like that in the US? I'm sure that there's SOME station out there that will air it...
-- Dr. Eldarion --
I believe the movie that you mentioned would be Johnny Mnemonic. The cure for the disease that you're talking about (NAS, or Neural Attenuation Syndrome.. also called the 'black shakes') was placed into Keaneaueaueuua Reeves' head then when they got it out was broadcast similarly to this over TV... but not quite as a television commercial... If I recall correctly, it was over a pirate channel.
Sorry, had to get the specifics out there, 'tis a great movie for any ShadowRun fan... =)
-- Dr. Eldarion --
The problem with the MS box is, however, that it's going to be less powerful than the PSX2 and come out way later -- not to mention that right now we haven't heard of any support from the major game companies.
I know it's still very early in the game to be making assumptions like this, but things aren't looking up for MS.
The only thing that MS seems to have going for them is the name recognition. Since the console is being pushed as a gaming box, though... (an area in which MS hasn't been too successful in...) I'm pretty skeptical...
we shall see, however... stranger things have happened...
-- Dr. Eldarion --
I never said that it wasn't possible to be a consoler and PC junkie at the same time.
What I was saying was that the people who really don't have much of a clue what they're doing will stick to their PCs instead of switching over to something that they have absolutely no experience with/knowledge about.
-- Dr. Eldarion --
Actually, most of the ignorant masses will probably just stick with their plain old computer rather than go out and buy any one of these consoles.
Since they're being pushed as gaming machines, this pretty much divides the users into two groups: gamers and kids.
Kids will most likely want the Dolphin because it'll have the Pokemon games -- they won't care what the console can do as long as it has Pokemon. (Or whatever big fad Nintendo acquires next...)
The gamers will actually look at the games, and (from what I've seen outta the gaming community) the PSX2 looks like the biggest contender.
Still, we'll have to see what's actually going on when everything comes out, but I don't see that much of a future for the X-Box.
-- Dr. Eldarion --
Yes, but who says that you won't be able to hook these systems up to a monitor?
-- Dr. Eldarion --
And you wouldn't call a pentium II a pretty respectable machine?
-- Dr. Eldarion --
Argh, oops. Damned typos.
-- Dr. Eldarion --
Question: What's the difference between a fan of say, "Neon Genesis Evangelion" telling people who like other anime series that what they like is for dorks and someone who likes Jesus telling people who are in other religions that they are dorks?
The difference is that the Eva fan doesn't go out and actively preach that what they like is the ONLY *REAL* anime, and that if anyone watches anything else, the allmighty god Gainax will smite them and they will burn in hell for the rest of eternity.
You know, I heard somewhere that anime is starting to be uncool again, just like it was when I was watching Star Blazers back in the 70's, you wouldn't want to be caught being into something uncool would you? The new fad is those "cup-and-ball" games, you'll be really cool if you leave anime to dorks like me and get into that.
I don't watch Anime because I "think it's cool". I watch it because my (now ex) girlfriend introduced me to it and I liked it.
You apparently think you're better than the people who have just gotten into anime. Not all people who have recently started watching it are doing it just to look cool. Some of us actually watch because we like it... If anime is going to be un-cool, then so be it. It's what I like, and I frankly could care less whether people think I'm 'cool' or not because of it.
Just because my 2+ years pales in comparison to your 20+ years, it doesn't mean that I'm merely a wannabe.
-- Dr. Eldarion --
Yes, but, see.. the sad part about this is... there *ARE* people like that running around...
-- Dr. Eldarion --
Right... they're both extremely nice in theory... but they get screwed up when people try to put them into effect...
-- Dr. Eldarion --
You have no proof to the contrary either so why are you trying to justify your anti-Christian bigotry?
I'm not anti-christian. I'm anti-people-like-you. I think that christians are totally fine, so long as they aren't like you and refuse to see anyone else's point of view. People like you HAVE to think that just because everyone else doesn't share your same beliefs that they're going to hell and that's the end of it.
It's people like you that give Christians a bad name in the mind of a lot of people.
-- Dr. Eldarion --
Of course, here you are trying to portray yourself as a wonderfully tolerant and open minded person who wouldn't dream of spitting on someone who didn't happen to share your tastes in things.
I wouldn't dream of spitting on someone who didn't happen to share my tastes in things.
HOWEVER I certainly *DO* spit on people who try to force their beliefs on others. There's a big difference.
-- Dr. Eldarion --
BZZZT! Wrong! Nice try, but morality is handed down to us from God through the Bible, and as such anyone who does not live their lives in accordance with the Bible's teachings is inherently non-moral. They can try as hard as they like to be good people, but they are still destined for Hell after they die. I'm sorry if this offends you, but it is the truth. Your anti-Christian "ethics" will not aid you in the afterlife.
Wow, that really sucks that a good majority of the world is going to 'hell'.
And just because someone isn't Christian doesn't mean that they don't believe in the morals that the bible teaches. I'll be the first to admit that the bible definitely has a lot of good stuff in it.
*HOWEVER* I don't have to be a christian to realize this.
Also... it's the truth according to who? You? A bunch of your conformist sheep? Well, I have some news for you. Just because you believe in something doesn't mean that it's the 'one true way'. Also, what if their *IS* no afterlife? Hm? You have no proof that any of this exists, so stop trying to force everyone to believe what you're saying.
-- Dr. Eldarion --
A storybook created by some guy off in the middle of nowhere that had too much time on his hands.
and on a side note... you're condemning socialism and communism, yet begging for everyone to become equal through Chrstianity... did you ever stop and realize that the *GOAL* of communism is for everyone to become equal? Therefore... christianity = communism?
Get your head out of the '60s. This is the year 2000.
-- Dr. Eldarion --
So rather than allowing the artist's music to become more widespread, allowing them to become more recognized = more attendence at concerts = much more revenue... you would prefer them to get the measly amount they get from record sales, and help the huge corporations as well?
-- Dr. Eldarion --
You are the kind of Christian that deserves respect.
-- Dr. Eldarion --
People are allowed to have different opinions from those of the /. sheep herd, even if you don't like them. People like you who just accept the party line make me sick.
Geez, you are such a hypocritical idiot.
Allow me to rephrase that a bit.
People are allowed to have different opinions from those of the Christian sheep herd, even if you don't like them. People like you who just accept the party line make me sick.
There are non-christians on this world. Shitloads of them. Stop being so damned ignorant and realize this.
-- Dr. Eldarion --
All decent American's are Christians, which is why America is the greatest nation on Earth.
You need some serious help if you actually believe that. What I've noticed is that a lot of people who are athiest/buddhist/other non-christian religions are some of the most moral people I know, while some of the Christians just use their religion to justify a lack of morality -- See also: gay bashers, racists... Christians like you are some of the most closed-minded people on this planet.
Morality and non-christianity are not mutually exclusive.
-- Dr. Eldarion --
So you are in favour of race-hate campaigns, terrorist propagranda and bigotry in all its forms? People like you that whine about "freedom of information" are contributing to the moral decay of our country.
While I don't believe that any of these things are good, some people firmly believe that they are. It may be moral decay to you, but to them, it's the way things should be. Who are you to tell them what to believe in?
Err, oh, wait. I forgot, telling people what they should believe in is the thing that Christians do best.
-- Dr. Eldarion --
It's your kind of attitude that has corrupted the moral's of this generation of Americans and led to the rise of anti-Christian icons like Marilyn Manson.
... and this is a very very good thing.
or are you forgetting that America was founded on the belief that people should have freedom of religion? That's why everyone came over here in the first place. This isn't America, the land of the Christians. It's America the land of the (supposedly) free.
You call him communistic, but have you ever thought about all the parallels between (the bad view of) communism and christianity...?
-- Dr. Eldarion --