The impact of the Apple II went well beyond sales revenue for apple.
The Apple IIe's presence in my elementary school computer labs helped me develop an early interest in computers, and I'm sure it did the same to many other kids. Sure, we only played Oregon Trail, but computer lab was something we looked forward to every week. Lots of those kids are now holding well-paying engineering, IT, or development jobs, have started their own companies, and are contributing to the economy.
I think the Apple II changed the world. The Surface RT has not and will not.
That is true for me and my son. I gave my son his first Apple II+ when he was five years old. I was going to trade it in on an Apple IIe but they wouldn't offer me enough. So I bought the IIe and gave the II+ to my son. Best investment I ever made. He is a well paid IT specialist because of the exposure to the II+. That was in 1980.
When you sit in the chair, you'll never be the one you wanted to be while looking up to it. And it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
There's a simple reason while politician change and change their speech once they get (re)elected. It's only then that they are faced with reality, whereas all the speeches before are totally disconnected from it. In the end, it's the same person, but facing different realities. I don't excuse them really for it... it rather have candidates saying the things how they are, but that won't get them elected.
Sorry, but is English your first language? It is quite difficult to decode your intended message.
Here, let me fix the analogy for you. Your criminal doesn't shoot the cops, he infects them with the black plague. Two weeks later, all the cops are dead. Now, who won? By any measure, Osama won on 9/11. I saw it the week after. Our response was wrong then, and has been ever since. Amerika is dead, just waiting on the autopsy.
Our elected officials are dumber than the people who vote for them could possibly imagine.
FTFY; some of us wised up to that some time ago, and thus only vote for third parties (if at all).
It's the non gun owning liberals who propose this legislation. By definition they know nothing about guns. They never owned one and don't know how they work. This is not flame bait but it truth.
I sure don't give Obama or Bush a pass. They both are cut from the same cloth. We desperately need a third party here in the U.S. One that is middle of the road and is neither (Republican) the American Taliban or the (Democrats) spending my children's and grandchildren's future giving away free Obama phones and free Obama money (no taxes for 47%) to buy votes. Some people work... some people vote.
Nancy said we had to "pass it to find out what was in it". When you are a jillionaire insider trader, like her, you don't care what it says. You can buy your own hospital if you don't like ObamaCare.
Pretty much true of any and all technology (maybe with a few exceedingly rare exceptions and even that's debatable); it's the intent behind the use of a tool or technology that is good or evil.
The only thing to understand before hand is limiting "Mission Creep". There have to be rules in place before hand or the technology will, without a doubt, be misused for evil.
The cops sure hate it when they are prevented from thuggery by inane laws.
Or when someone records their actions with a camera. This is what bothers me. If the cops can monitor our every move the reciprocal should be true also. Why do they resist being photographed?
All I keep hearing about is knee jerk reactions to a sad but relatively trivial event in Boston.
That has become the standard government reaction to anything that happens... ban it. A fan, a five pound bag of flour and a match can blow a house up. As soon as some idiot does it you will need a Federal License to buy a pound of flour.
Funny thing about that, for the last 30 years the tax burden has been steadly shifted from corporations and the leisure class to "the people mopping floors living at the poverty line"
Sorry, but you haven't looked at the tax rolls lately. Remember the 47% who don't pay taxes. Those are the people mopping floors. I am the one of the middle class people still paying income taxes and, in my opinion, that's why the country is going broke. Everyone who earns money should be paying their fair share to support this spendthrift government. Even if it's just $20.00 a year. Everyone who votes, should have a 'dog in the race'.
However I can see the same thing happening in up where "All dose Yankees live" It is part of the dumbing down of our system of discipline.
Our system has been so intent of getting the bad guys that they are willing to let hundreds of innocent people go to jail vs letting one real criminal go free.
We spend more time trying to find ways to get kids kicked out of school and or locked up in prison. Then we do trying to keep kids in school and out of prison. We are all humans and we make mistakes. If we don't make mistakes, we don't learn from them. Does that mean that there are no consequences, no. They are consequences but they don't mean permanent marks on your life for getting caught for making a simple mistake.
For this teen, It probably should have lead to Detention, or perhaps up to a week suspension, because setting off unsupervised explosions (even small ones) is wrong. But being that didn't cause any damage, or was meant to the punishment should face that fact.
Her biggest mistake was that she wasn't a big football player, if that was the case she would have gone off with a kids will be kids and ignored.
I agree with your comment 100 %. The things my generation did when we were her age would have seriously depleted the population gene pool, IF, the authorities had deemed them as criminal. In the 50s we had true freedom and most of us survived it.
It's amazing they weren't arrested and tagged for the rest of their lives with felony records. That seems to be the present day, "American Way", destroy as many lives as possible and make sure they never succeed at life.
If only that was enough to stop illegal activities....
That's the problem. The Lawmakers seem to feel that passing laws will accomplish what they want. They never seem to take into account that criminals, who by definition, are 'law breakers' will ignore laws. Therefore the laws they create only really effect law abiding citizens. I swear that the Senators (American House of Lords) believe they are so powerful that they could pass a law to outlaw tornadoes and expect that tornadoes would disappear as soon as the President signed it into law. For instance, correct me if I'm wrong, I believe it is already illegal to kill people with bombs made from pressure cookers. However I expect Congress to pass a law either outlawing pressure cookers or requiring that all people who purchase pressure cookers first pass a background check. Such is the state of knee jerk legislation in the U.S.
US used to be LOT better in terms of civil rights. Gradual erosion is a pain to watch.
I'm in my 70s. When my generation dies (soon), there will be no one left who really know the wonderful freedoms we experienced in this country when I was young. The problem with our dying freedoms are two fold, as I see it. Too damned many people on this earth. We have become a virus and will eventually destroy ourselves by sheer numbers. Second is that we have allowed companies to grow way, way, too large. We used to have anti trust laws which prevented one company from taking over. Now we have huge banks that are allowed to buy up all their competition except the last one. They then become too large to fail and the government protects them. When I was young banks thanked you for letting them use your money. Now they try to find ways to screw you out of it. I still have a Morgan silver dollar a bank gave me when I opened a savings account with a dollar. Net cost to me $0.00. We have shitty cell phone providers and banks who rape us because there is no competition. Capitalism works when there is competition. The disregard for anti trust has led us into these times where the corporations have become so powerful that they can, and do, buy and own our government. You and I are useful to the politicians only as a means to get into office. After that we are no longer important to them and they immediately start selling their souls to the corporations who will give them suitcases of money. Look at all the politicians who have been in government for a decade or more, all of them are wealthy. Every politician should serve two terms. One in office and one in prison. Crooks 95% of them. We are able to influence them with mass protests only because they want to retain that golden seat in government and they are afraid that if they defy too many of us they will be returned to the status of ordinary citizen... like us.
I think that there should be a general safety class taught in schools
Yes, but that would be promoting violence in our school, when what they should really be focusing on is love and other people's feelings and ponies.
You are so right. When I was young we did have gun safety taught in school. I brought a 22 rifle to school when I was in High School to take a NRA safety course. I traveled by city bus with the gun and this took place in Rochester N.Y. That was before the liberals got ahold of the education system.
First, I am in no way affiliated with this company. That said, I bought a Digitone 10 call blocker. a double click on the block button and the call blocker hangs up on all calls from that number henceforth. As a plus you can program it to block entire area codes, like 800, 900,& 888. Downside, it only has memory for 80 numbers. I now have two of them. I suppose I could clear all the political numbers from the first one but there is another election next year. Amazon sells a Chinese call blocker that will block 1500 numbers but not area codes. I have one of those too and it works OK.
So having Amazon and Google is good for competition, because they drown out the excellent small providers and thus having LESS options?
Look at politics. Having only 2 things to select from is not competition. It is an illusion of competition.
Yes, 2 is better then 1. But 3 is better then 2 and 20 is better then 3.
This remark is so very true. I'm so tired of having to choose political candidates based on one of two bases, welfare state or Christian Taliban. I wish I had a real choice that didn't include either.
Seems like when a patent or copyright troll is shown to be making baseless lawsuits, there should be some more appropriate response. When child molesters are convicted, their names and faces are made public. Shouldn't there be a website for bottom-feeding suckerfish? Shouldn't their neighbors be warned?
The looser should be forced to pay the winner's entire court costs. That would put an end to this crap in a nanosecond.
This is why the U.S. has a legal system and the word justice is nowhere to be found. This way of winning cases is the norm not the exception. The powerful and wealthy can always prevail because they can exhaust the financial resources of almost any citizen and any small company. Justice... my ass! For justice to prevail the loser HAS to pay all court costs. Period!
The worst US citizens are coming to believe -- and being quite up front about it -- that they have a right not to see and hear things they don't like in the public space. There could hardly be a more dangerous mode of thought for a country that supposedly honors freedom of speech.
I believe I've seen a comment posted on this very site to sum this up: "The antithesis of free speech is the perceived right to never be offended".
This may be an AC, but he's spot on. There is no Constitutional guarantee against being offended. Liberals are offended by Conservatives and Conservatives are offended by Liberals. Without offense, there is no freedom of speech at all.
Don't forget that when Obamacare kicks in the government will hold all your health records. Now, don't you think that they will submit your DNA info to at least the FBI if not all local law enforcement departments? I do.
This could never pass as it is way too logical. I believe this rule should apply to all litigation, civil and criminal. Why should the government be allowed to bankrupt an individual by accusing him (or her) of a crime that they did not commit? If the government loses it should pay the defendant's legal expenses and vice versa. It would add further punishment to those convicted of crimes.
"Lethargic"? Try "unconstitutional" or "illegal", per the Sixth Amendment:
"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial..."
You folks seem to believe that this document still is in force. It has been nibbled at, torn, ignored and defied for decades. Even the Supreme Court now believes that in some cases European laws trump the American Constitution.
Yes I know, it a rightwing blog but left wing blogs don't say negative things about their own. Right wing blogs don't say negative things about right winger either so it appears you need to read both and use your brain to determine what is correct.
We need to get rid of the righwing Taliban congresscritters and the socialist left and get this country moving again somewhere near the center like when Ike was Prez.
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The impact of the Apple II went well beyond sales revenue for apple.
The Apple IIe's presence in my elementary school computer labs helped me develop an early interest in computers, and I'm sure it did the same to many other kids. Sure, we only played Oregon Trail, but computer lab was something we looked forward to every week. Lots of those kids are now holding well-paying engineering, IT, or development jobs, have started their own companies, and are contributing to the economy.
I think the Apple II changed the world. The Surface RT has not and will not.
That is true for me and my son. I gave my son his first Apple II+ when he was five years old. I was going to trade it in on an Apple IIe but they wouldn't offer me enough. So I bought the IIe and gave the II+ to my son. Best investment I ever made. He is a well paid IT specialist because of the exposure to the II+. That was in 1980.
When you sit in the chair, you'll never be the one you wanted to be while looking up to it. And it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
There's a simple reason while politician change and change their speech once they get (re)elected. It's only then that they are faced with reality, whereas all the speeches before are totally disconnected from it. In the end, it's the same person, but facing different realities. I don't excuse them really for it... it rather have candidates saying the things how they are, but that won't get them elected.
Sorry, but is English your first language? It is quite difficult to decode your intended message.
Here, let me fix the analogy for you. Your criminal doesn't shoot the cops, he infects them with the black plague. Two weeks later, all the cops are dead. Now, who won? By any measure, Osama won on 9/11. I saw it the week after. Our response was wrong then, and has been ever since. Amerika is dead, just waiting on the autopsy.
Amen!!!
Our elected officials are dumber than the people who vote for them could possibly imagine.
FTFY; some of us wised up to that some time ago, and thus only vote for third parties (if at all).
It's the non gun owning liberals who propose this legislation. By definition they know nothing about guns. They never owned one and don't know how they work. This is not flame bait but it truth.
I sure don't give Obama or Bush a pass. They both are cut from the same cloth. We desperately need a third party here in the U.S. One that is middle of the road and is neither (Republican) the American Taliban or the (Democrats) spending my children's and grandchildren's future giving away free Obama phones and free Obama money (no taxes for 47%) to buy votes. Some people work... some people vote.
If you read it, you would know.
Nancy said we had to "pass it to find out what was in it". When you are a jillionaire insider trader, like her, you don't care what it says. You can buy your own hospital if you don't like ObamaCare.
Pretty much true of any and all technology (maybe with a few exceedingly rare exceptions and even that's debatable); it's the intent behind the use of a tool or technology that is good or evil.
The only thing to understand before hand is limiting "Mission Creep". There have to be rules in place before hand or the technology will, without a doubt, be misused for evil.
The cops sure hate it when they are prevented from thuggery by inane laws.
Or when someone records their actions with a camera. This is what bothers me. If the cops can monitor our every move the reciprocal should be true also. Why do they resist being photographed?
All I keep hearing about is knee jerk reactions to a sad but relatively trivial event in Boston.
That has become the standard government reaction to anything that happens... ban it. A fan, a five pound bag of flour and a match can blow a house up. As soon as some idiot does it you will need a Federal License to buy a pound of flour.
Funny thing about that, for the last 30 years the tax burden has been steadly shifted from corporations and the leisure class to "the people mopping floors living at the poverty line"
Sorry, but you haven't looked at the tax rolls lately. Remember the 47% who don't pay taxes. Those are the people mopping floors. I am the one of the middle class people still paying income taxes and, in my opinion, that's why the country is going broke. Everyone who earns money should be paying their fair share to support this spendthrift government. Even if it's just $20.00 a year. Everyone who votes, should have a 'dog in the race'.
However I can see the same thing happening in up where "All dose Yankees live" It is part of the dumbing down of our system of discipline.
Our system has been so intent of getting the bad guys that they are willing to let hundreds of innocent people go to jail vs letting one real criminal go free.
We spend more time trying to find ways to get kids kicked out of school and or locked up in prison. Then we do trying to keep kids in school and out of prison. We are all humans and we make mistakes. If we don't make mistakes, we don't learn from them. Does that mean that there are no consequences, no. They are consequences but they don't mean permanent marks on your life for getting caught for making a simple mistake.
For this teen, It probably should have lead to Detention, or perhaps up to a week suspension, because setting off unsupervised explosions (even small ones) is wrong. But being that didn't cause any damage, or was meant to the punishment should face that fact.
Her biggest mistake was that she wasn't a big football player, if that was the case she would have gone off with a kids will be kids and ignored.
I agree with your comment 100 %. The things my generation did when we were her age would have seriously depleted the population gene pool, IF, the authorities had deemed them as criminal. In the 50s we had true freedom and most of us survived it.
There's hope for us yet!
It's amazing they weren't arrested and tagged for the rest of their lives with felony records. That seems to be the present day, "American Way", destroy as many lives as possible and make sure they never succeed at life.
If only that was enough to stop illegal activities....
That's the problem. The Lawmakers seem to feel that passing laws will accomplish what they want. They never seem to take into account that criminals, who by definition, are 'law breakers' will ignore laws. Therefore the laws they create only really effect law abiding citizens. I swear that the Senators (American House of Lords) believe they are so powerful that they could pass a law to outlaw tornadoes and expect that tornadoes would disappear as soon as the President signed it into law. For instance, correct me if I'm wrong, I believe it is already illegal to kill people with bombs made from pressure cookers. However I expect Congress to pass a law either outlawing pressure cookers or requiring that all people who purchase pressure cookers first pass a background check. Such is the state of knee jerk legislation in the U.S.
US used to be LOT better in terms of civil rights. Gradual erosion is a pain to watch.
I'm in my 70s. When my generation dies (soon), there will be no one left who really know the wonderful freedoms we experienced in this country when I was young. The problem with our dying freedoms are two fold, as I see it. Too damned many people on this earth. We have become a virus and will eventually destroy ourselves by sheer numbers. Second is that we have allowed companies to grow way, way, too large. We used to have anti trust laws which prevented one company from taking over. Now we have huge banks that are allowed to buy up all their competition except the last one. They then become too large to fail and the government protects them. When I was young banks thanked you for letting them use your money. Now they try to find ways to screw you out of it. I still have a Morgan silver dollar a bank gave me when I opened a savings account with a dollar. Net cost to me $0.00. We have shitty cell phone providers and banks who rape us because there is no competition. Capitalism works when there is competition. The disregard for anti trust has led us into these times where the corporations have become so powerful that they can, and do, buy and own our government. You and I are useful to the politicians only as a means to get into office. After that we are no longer important to them and they immediately start selling their souls to the corporations who will give them suitcases of money. Look at all the politicians who have been in government for a decade or more, all of them are wealthy. Every politician should serve two terms. One in office and one in prison. Crooks 95% of them. We are able to influence them with mass protests only because they want to retain that golden seat in government and they are afraid that if they defy too many of us they will be returned to the status of ordinary citizen... like us.
Who the hell is John Keating? That Bible-thumping S&L crook who was in bed with McCain?
That was Charles Keating, who used his savings and loan company, Lincoln Savings as his personal piggy bank.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Keating
I think that there should be a general safety class taught in schools
Yes, but that would be promoting violence in our school, when what they should really be focusing on is love and other people's feelings and ponies.
You are so right. When I was young we did have gun safety taught in school. I brought a 22 rifle to school when I was in High School to take a NRA safety course. I traveled by city bus with the gun and this took place in Rochester N.Y. That was before the liberals got ahold of the education system.
First, I am in no way affiliated with this company. That said, I bought a Digitone 10 call blocker. a double click on the block button and the call blocker hangs up on all calls from that number henceforth. As a plus you can program it to block entire area codes, like 800, 900,& 888. Downside, it only has memory for 80 numbers. I now have two of them. I suppose I could clear all the political numbers from the first one but there is another election next year. Amazon sells a Chinese call blocker that will block 1500 numbers but not area codes. I have one of those too and it works OK.
So having Amazon and Google is good for competition, because they drown out the excellent small providers and thus having LESS options?
Look at politics. Having only 2 things to select from is not competition. It is an illusion of competition.
Yes, 2 is better then 1. But 3 is better then 2 and 20 is better then 3.
This remark is so very true. I'm so tired of having to choose political candidates based on one of two bases, welfare state or Christian Taliban. I wish I had a real choice that didn't include either.
Seems like when a patent or copyright troll is shown to be making baseless lawsuits, there should be some more appropriate response. When child molesters are convicted, their names and faces are made public. Shouldn't there be a website for bottom-feeding suckerfish? Shouldn't their neighbors be warned?
The looser should be forced to pay the winner's entire court costs. That would put an end to this crap in a nanosecond.
This is why the U.S. has a legal system and the word justice is nowhere to be found. This way of winning cases is the norm not the exception. The powerful and wealthy can always prevail because they can exhaust the financial resources of almost any citizen and any small company. Justice... my ass! For justice to prevail the loser HAS to pay all court costs. Period!
The worst US citizens are coming to believe -- and being quite up front about it -- that they have a right not to see and hear things they don't like in the public space. There could hardly be a more dangerous mode of thought for a country that supposedly honors freedom of speech.
I believe I've seen a comment posted on this very site to sum this up: "The antithesis of free speech is the perceived right to never be offended".
This may be an AC, but he's spot on. There is no Constitutional guarantee against being offended. Liberals are offended by Conservatives and Conservatives are offended by Liberals. Without offense, there is no freedom of speech at all.
NK, the butt of the world's jokes.
How about... NK, the butt of the world.
Don't forget that when Obamacare kicks in the government will hold all your health records. Now, don't you think that they will submit your DNA info to at least the FBI if not all local law enforcement departments? I do.
This could never pass as it is way too logical. I believe this rule should apply to all litigation, civil and criminal. Why should the government be allowed to bankrupt an individual by accusing him (or her) of a crime that they did not commit? If the government loses it should pay the defendant's legal expenses and vice versa. It would add further punishment to those convicted of crimes.
"Lethargic"? Try "unconstitutional" or "illegal", per the Sixth Amendment:
"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial ..."
You folks seem to believe that this document still is in force. It has been nibbled at, torn, ignored and defied for decades. Even the Supreme Court now believes that in some cases European laws trump the American Constitution.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/01/sonia-sotomayor-supreme-c_n_194470.html
Yes I know, it a rightwing blog but left wing blogs don't say negative things about their own. Right wing blogs don't say negative things about right winger either so it appears you need to read both and use your brain to determine what is correct.
We need to get rid of the righwing Taliban congresscritters and the socialist left and get this country moving again somewhere near the center like when Ike was Prez.