Why is Ruby even being talked about? The most useful thing in that Demo is RAILS, not the Ruby tools that could have been programmed in any of a hundred different languages in widespread use...I still don't see the draw.
and post all the interesting sites worth re-posting, under it. Whatever. Just stop the dupes unless there are updates. Hey look NEW PICS ON HOTORNOT.COM!!!
My value to the market is independent of the language. Let's not compare versions of PHP if you're gonna claim 180k a year.
There is no chicken and egg. There is invention and demand. Ruby has been out how long? Filled what niche? Right. At 100k a year you can afford to simply demand new development machines. At 180k I doubt you have a problem justifying the use of a "up and coming" language if you can get the job done. Motivating programmers is the key to optimum production, in my not-so-unique experience.
I feel bad for them, but...was there no preventative measures in place to protet the irreplaceable memorabilia?!
It's only recognized as such now, because there was another hit movie. In 2 years, if the next movie flops, it'll be back to the fire that destroyed regular collectible trash. Some people thought Chicken Run was good, some like W&G, I do not belong to either populace. I'm glad there's perspective from Mr. Park.
There's too many new/emerging techs integrated into one monolithic framework as if it will work next year...Here's something new it will teach you, what works one year for a complex framework (made up of independent vendors) wont work next year when you install the latest releases. If someone is specifically maintaining the framework for $$$ you will probably be able to get it to work with a lot of tweaking the Pythonic glue... I think they meant pythonic scripts. Right. I will reiterate the parent, this is a waste of time.
My experiences have mirrored the parent poster's. All-hail my current salaried position. Contract work for mom-and-pop shops is just not worth the headache and inevitable hard feelings (read: no referrals). Yes I only get paid 3/5 of what I got paid contracting, in a salaried position, but at least SOMEONE knows that I'm talking about and can recognize that I'm worth it.
So do you troll the legal articles complaining that Linux isn't explicitly described as a GPL'd OS? Sometimes the subjects of/. articles are not self descriptive...that is how it has always been.
As dangerous as it is to trust unverified information, it can be just as bad to make prior judgments discounting information because the source happens to be anonymous
The parent's example illustrates the reality of the misleading statement quoted.
Unverified information is Dangerous Discounting (anonymous) information is "just as bad"
In reality, anonymous information is unverified by definition. You can't reasonably depend on the majority of anonymous information to be anything other than misguided, misinformed, or flat trolling. Yes it happens that anonymous information is sometimes enlightened, but it's a monkey-typewriter statistical anomaly.
This has tacit consequences for US copyright as well (GPL?). If the EU doesn't think the US should retail control of something invented and developed in the US, because the EU has become so dependent on it...they will simply take it. The EU has learned a lot from the US.
Here in the real worldblockquote> You mean the incorporated western fairy-land you live in? Let me know when you can enforce it in Saudia Arabia or India or China or Russia...The clearly spelled out distinction between use and distribution is a LEGAL concept unique to geo-political boundaries that don't govern the majority of humanity. I recognize every algorithm to be a mathematical construct and cannot ethically support restricting knowledge of reality anymore than I could support GPL'ing the gram. Some of those who support the GPL understandably believe it's at least SOMETHING to keep ideas "free". I do not actively support it in any fashion.
But I don't consider use and distribution any different. I believe it depends on evenly responsible and ethical use worldwide, which is impractical. The obviousness, is in how harmful it is, from my point of view.
The aforementioned terminology is (suppsedly) applicable to hyper-politicized americans. I was speaking to specific philosophies. Am I conservative or liberal because I dont think the destitute should NOT be given free drugs but think that the freedom of information act didn't go far enough?
You said "use completely freely" when you mean "use and redistribute without restriction". Perhaps in your world, bait and switch is a common or acceptable tactic, but some of us prefer to use words according to their meaning. The use of software is entirely separate from its (re-)distribution.
"independent" & "moderate" == centrist. Liberal as a word, doesn't have a meaningful connotation (I bet it means "activist" to you) unless paired with a cultural mechanism. Do you mean a social liberal or economic liberal? Howabout a judicial liberal? I don't mean to try to maneuver you into my political paradigm, but am genuinely interested if you have one at all. Appears you are just rabble rousing with a reflex anti-/. opinion as if we all share the same views. If there was even a 70% consensus on ANY single philosophy, this whole KDE/GNOME mess would have been decided long ago:p
Modulus.net tried to do this a few years back. Let me tell you, the limitations of Javascript are many, varied, and undocumented. I actually worked on it for 6 months until I moved on to a company with a future. Java is the way to go for an online office suite. This is my opinion.
Much of the data, multimedia, and code that I use is *MINE*. If I discover something developing at home and want to share it at work, thumbdrives are best. If I need to apply a windows patch without hosing a small network, I transport it around on a thumbdrive. My life and work is intertwined because I make a living doing what I would be doing anyway. Cliches in 3...2..1
Some would say the elegance is the genious. Your best bet to find a talented architect to solve large problems efficiently, is to start with a pool of people talented at solving little ones. Unless you rather draw from a hat?
Or set the company up to succeed because you're dead anyway...like OS X. I don't understand why anyone could be so adamant about maintaining codebase when a great many products are grown to be ugly functional messes. Windows XP SPECIFICALLY. Rewrites are good, this is what factoring is about. Refactoring design is GOOD as technology progresses. There's no real argument against it (other than fear and complacency). This is particularly applicable to the philosophy of the http://www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html Reiser4 filesystem design. It didn't come about because it relies on assumptions in Ext2, but because it challenged and tossed them. Statistically staying with the status quo is good, but that's because most managers are technologically inept and surprisingly good at writing reports and marketing fliers.
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Why is Ruby even being talked about? The most useful thing in that Demo is RAILS, not the Ruby tools that could have been programmed in any of a hundred different languages in widespread use...I still don't see the draw.
Why not make a new topic like...
Internet Super-Stars
and post all the interesting sites worth re-posting, under it. Whatever. Just stop the dupes unless there are updates. Hey look NEW PICS ON HOTORNOT.COM!!!
My value to the market is independent of the language. Let's not compare versions of PHP if you're gonna claim 180k a year.
There is no chicken and egg. There is invention and demand. Ruby has been out how long? Filled what niche? Right. At 100k a year you can afford to simply demand new development machines. At 180k I doubt you have a problem justifying the use of a "up and coming" language if you can get the job done. Motivating programmers is the key to optimum production, in my not-so-unique experience.
Time to learn Ruby: 2-4 weeks multiplied by the # of jobs in the (714) MENTIONING Ruby: 10ish (.01) divided by my years as a programmer 8
Carefactor elevated to 0.016 - get it up to 2 before I learn it on the weekends.
This is satire, but succinctly explains what I consider, before learning about a new technology.
I agree, as an artist, it was certainly priceless material.
There's too many new/emerging techs integrated into one monolithic framework as if it will work next year...Here's something new it will teach you, what works one year for a complex framework (made up of independent vendors) wont work next year when you install the latest releases. If someone is specifically maintaining the framework for $$$ you will probably be able to get it to work with a lot of tweaking the Pythonic glue... I think they meant pythonic scripts. Right. I will reiterate the parent, this is a waste of time.
My experiences have mirrored the parent poster's. All-hail my current salaried position. Contract work for mom-and-pop shops is just not worth the headache and inevitable hard feelings (read: no referrals). Yes I only get paid 3/5 of what I got paid contracting, in a salaried position, but at least SOMEONE knows that I'm talking about and can recognize that I'm worth it.
So do you troll the legal articles complaining that Linux isn't explicitly described as a GPL'd OS? Sometimes the subjects of /. articles are not self descriptive...that is how it has always been.
The parent's example illustrates the reality of the misleading statement quoted.
Unverified information is Dangerous
Discounting (anonymous) information is "just as bad"
In reality, anonymous information is unverified by definition. You can't reasonably depend on the majority of anonymous information to be anything other than misguided, misinformed, or flat trolling. Yes it happens that anonymous information is sometimes enlightened, but it's a monkey-typewriter statistical anomaly.
This has tacit consequences for US copyright as well (GPL?). If the EU doesn't think the US should retail control of something invented and developed in the US, because the EU has become so dependent on it...they will simply take it. The EU has learned a lot from the US.
But I don't consider use and distribution any different. I believe it depends on evenly responsible and ethical use worldwide, which is impractical. The obviousness, is in how harmful it is, from my point of view.
The aforementioned terminology is (suppsedly) applicable to hyper-politicized americans. I was speaking to specific philosophies. Am I conservative or liberal because I dont think the destitute should NOT be given free drugs but think that the freedom of information act didn't go far enough?
Kinda like music?
"independent" & "moderate" == centrist. Liberal as a word, doesn't have a meaningful connotation (I bet it means "activist" to you) unless paired with a cultural mechanism. Do you mean a social liberal or economic liberal? Howabout a judicial liberal? I don't mean to try to maneuver you into my political paradigm, but am genuinely interested if you have one at all. Appears you are just rabble rousing with a reflex anti-/. opinion as if we all share the same views. If there was even a 70% consensus on ANY single philosophy, this whole KDE/GNOME mess would have been decided long ago :p
Modulus.net tried to do this a few years back. Let me tell you, the limitations of Javascript are many, varied, and undocumented. I actually worked on it for 6 months until I moved on to a company with a future. Java is the way to go for an online office suite. This is my opinion.
Much of the data, multimedia, and code that I use is *MINE*. If I discover something developing at home and want to share it at work, thumbdrives are best. If I need to apply a windows patch without hosing a small network, I transport it around on a thumbdrive. My life and work is intertwined because I make a living doing what I would be doing anyway. Cliches in 3...2..1
Some would say the elegance is the genious. Your best bet to find a talented architect to solve large problems efficiently, is to start with a pool of people talented at solving little ones. Unless you rather draw from a hat?
OSX is BSD but the point is well taken.
Or set the company up to succeed because you're dead anyway...like OS X. I don't understand why anyone could be so adamant about maintaining codebase when a great many products are grown to be ugly functional messes. Windows XP SPECIFICALLY. Rewrites are good, this is what factoring is about. Refactoring design is GOOD as technology progresses. There's no real argument against it (other than fear and complacency). This is particularly applicable to the philosophy of the http://www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html Reiser4 filesystem design. It didn't come about because it relies on assumptions in Ext2, but because it challenged and tossed them. Statistically staying with the status quo is good, but that's because most managers are technologically inept and surprisingly good at writing reports and marketing fliers.
How is trolling insightful? Added nothing to clarify nothing to insight an argument +5 insightful of course!
er 1992, memory of the 90's kinda hazy.
Changed a bit since it was being beta tested in 1996 and even more difficult getting 3 other programmer kids to play...
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