Come back when it's $6-7. If they're going to cram me into those airline seats to watch ads for 30 minutes before getting to see a lukewarm piece of shit and then charge me $10 for the privilege...
Come to think of it, between the pre-movie ads and the product placements, they should already be letting people in for free. I'm no teabagger, but there has to be a point when society says, "Just stop it, you have all the toys, you all win - stop it now." Unfortunately, those things usually turn out a little more messy than that.
It's up to them - not you or me. Their property - their decision. Streaming the video makes it impossible NOT to be copied, or to be seen by 10 people for the price of 1, so I don't blame them for saying a big F.U. to that.
Actually, it is entirely up to me. You may choose to abstain, but that is your choice, not the copyright holder's. The film is already copied. There are copies available of every major film before it reaches the theaters. It doesn't matter if the studios say "a big F.U. to that". It's totally moot.
I appreciate what you're trying to say, and I respect your ethical stance on this. The problem is with your assertion that control belongs to copyright holders. It does not. Filesharing is rampant, and attempts to curb it thus far have been wildly unsuccessful.
I'm not saying right, wrong, good, bad - but this is the reality of today. The business model of the 20th century is coming to an end, and it's going to take as many of us with it as it can.
Of course I don't know, but I think it'll get darker before it gets lighter.
Then moral agency means nothing unless we consider ALL influences. We can't just say, "They did it, they are guilty.' We need to know the entire state of the universe to make a moral judgment. Which makes the concept of the soul philosophically useless.
No, I meant quantum leap as in literally a quantum leap. An electron dropping from orbital L3 to L2 instead of L2 to L1 is exactly what sends out photons of a more detectable temperature.
...and hoping each time that its next orbital drop would be the drop home.
No Canadian can grow up to be the leader of their country because the leader of the country is the head of the Church of England who must by definition be born in England. While I do like to bash to the south that doesn't mean we don't have things to work on up here.
You have to born in England to become Prime Minister of Canada?
Yes, I know what you meant, but honestly, when was the last time the queen had any influence in Canadian affairs?
Yet another prejudiced remark/insult (stereotyping based upon their group, rather than as individuals).
Boy you're really showing your superiority there. (Not.)
AuMatar seemed to be suggesting that Christian fundamentalists overwhelmingly favor lower taxes for the purpose of reducing government, despite relying heavily on government programs, services, and pork.
You blithely call him a bigot with no supporting evidence. Most of Slashdot is familiar with hand-wringing, think-of-the-children arguments. This is why people often ask for factual evidence.
Prove him wrong with something other than outrage.
Have not met a democrat with an altar to any human being at all.
I like seeing C64's bad-faith arguments taken to task as much as the next guy, but from what I understand of biblical anthropology, a ton of Dems have altars to a real human.
the witch-hunting/burning traditions of our ancestors are alive and well today. Perhaps less with the bone-breaking and the other refinements
Not to be glib, but tell that to Rwanda and Darfur. Dehumanization is no less of a global ill now than it ever was. I would think that, according to body count and raw human suffering, it is a far worse problem today than it was during the Spanish inquisition or Salem witch trials.
The advance of skeptical, critical thinking is very slow, is almost everywhere opposed by well-intentioned moralists harking for a never-extant halcyon age. So no, I don't believe cautionary dystopias are excessive or unnecessary. Some may even be brilliant. No one's running around screaming "the sky is falling". Just that you consider the tale and its implications.
I entirely agree with this, but I would add that critical thinking is also a learned behavior, and a shield against objectification by an oppressive force or regime. We as a species can fight against what some consider dystopic certainty by arming ourselves and others with the critical skills to properly evaluate the world around us.
This is a principle that I believe many slashdotters grasp. I find myself wondering lately if this critical mass could be employed to help spread cultural critique, rather than just discuss it amongst ourselves. Left, right, or center, we are a community of critical thinkers.
...is frequently mentioned here in approving tones. You wouldn't want people to go on doing things without permission, would you? The State knows what's best.
Wow. Yeah. You know, not having lead in my food and not having my 10 year old nephew working in a factory - man, those over-regulating bastards. It is exactly the same thing as abridging access and privacy on the internet.
Actually the new bosses are turning health care over to a Monopoly with a long history of patient abuse for undisclosed sums.
I wish your version was true! We would be better off even in Government hands.
I'm not sure I agree with your first categorization, but you have my full-throated support on your second. A government-run public option would definitely have been better for us. Too bad the Dems are suffering from spinal atrophy.
Oh, you meant that you want to keep downloading stuff for free, just that you want to be immune from negative consequences?
Uhh nnooo I think he said: people who want to see dramatic copyright reform
The "respect" for copyright requires copyright in good faith. If that trust is broken, I have no respect for the law - and neither should you.
Now I think someone could, maybe should, start a campaign of publicized copyright infringement. One person won't do it, but hundreds, or thousands, offering themselves up for arrest would start to make waves.
I don't know, I've been thinking about the best way to do it for a while now. I don't know if we have the luxury of waiting much longer.
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Come back when it's $6-7. If they're going to cram me into those airline seats to watch ads for 30 minutes before getting to see a lukewarm piece of shit and then charge me $10 for the privilege...
Come to think of it, between the pre-movie ads and the product placements, they should already be letting people in for free. I'm no teabagger, but there has to be a point when society says, "Just stop it, you have all the toys, you all win - stop it now." Unfortunately, those things usually turn out a little more messy than that.
Let them listen to Cake.
It's up to them - not you or me. Their property - their decision. Streaming the video makes it impossible NOT to be copied, or to be seen by 10 people for the price of 1, so I don't blame them for saying a big F.U. to that.
Actually, it is entirely up to me. You may choose to abstain, but that is your choice, not the copyright holder's. The film is already copied. There are copies available of every major film before it reaches the theaters. It doesn't matter if the studios say "a big F.U. to that". It's totally moot.
I appreciate what you're trying to say, and I respect your ethical stance on this. The problem is with your assertion that control belongs to copyright holders. It does not. Filesharing is rampant, and attempts to curb it thus far have been wildly unsuccessful.
I'm not saying right, wrong, good, bad - but this is the reality of today. The business model of the 20th century is coming to an end, and it's going to take as many of us with it as it can.
Of course I don't know, but I think it'll get darker before it gets lighter.
We hope they suffer for what they have given us in the name of "Love ,Greed and Sloth". We don't want their filthy souls. We want their lifeblood.
AC! Kiss me! Kiss me... once...
Seriously though, will you marry me?
Then moral agency means nothing unless we consider ALL influences. We can't just say, "They did it, they are guilty.' We need to know the entire state of the universe to make a moral judgment. Which makes the concept of the soul philosophically useless.
You had me at...
Wait, no... you lost me.
Nothing you wouldn't hear in 90% of the marriages in the English-speaking world.
Ratzo, that really is terrible. I would never in a million years say that to my wife. She's Swedish.
Now that the document is published, is there anything in it that we didn't already suspect or know?
Having never read it, it is composed entirely of things *I* didn't know. I'm not sure who "we" is supposed to be in your comment.
Are all against alliteration? AAAARG!!!!!
No, those of us below the age of 5 find it hilarious.
When will we wish we were "whooshed"?
By-the-by, being bitter becomes boring but blithe banter begets bliss.
Bollocks.
Please do not take down the purloined documents.
No, I meant quantum leap as in literally a quantum leap.
An electron dropping from orbital L3 to L2 instead of L2 to L1 is exactly what sends out photons of a more detectable temperature.
...and hoping each time that its next orbital drop would be the drop home.
My brain read that as "International Vultures"
Well... I guess that is pretty close.
Go Team Venture!
Dr Morpheus must be spinning people in their graves.
If you think that's what a bidet is designed for, then you are horribly abusing your bidet
Well it's not a drinking fountain... ... I mean... is it?
It's certainly not illegal anyplace that I've ever heard of.
What about Soviet Russia?
... points access you?
No Canadian can grow up to be the leader of their country because the leader of the country is the head of the Church of England who must by definition be born in England. While I do like to bash to the south that doesn't mean we don't have things to work on up here.
You have to born in England to become Prime Minister of Canada?
Yes, I know what you meant, but honestly, when was the last time the queen had any influence in Canadian affairs?
Not since they canceled Kids in the Hall.
Yet another prejudiced remark/insult (stereotyping based upon their group, rather than as individuals).
Boy you're really showing your superiority there. (Not.)
AuMatar seemed to be suggesting that Christian fundamentalists overwhelmingly favor lower taxes for the purpose of reducing government, despite relying heavily on government programs, services, and pork.
You blithely call him a bigot with no supporting evidence. Most of Slashdot is familiar with hand-wringing, think-of-the-children arguments. This is why people often ask for factual evidence.
Prove him wrong with something other than outrage.
Have not met a democrat with an altar to any human being at all.
I like seeing C64's bad-faith arguments taken to task as much as the next guy, but from what I understand of biblical anthropology, a ton of Dems have altars to a real human.
But not to Marx. That's just me.
Or is that, "'bot time"!
It isn't.
the witch-hunting/burning traditions of our ancestors are alive and well today. Perhaps less with the bone-breaking and the other refinements
Not to be glib, but tell that to Rwanda and Darfur. Dehumanization is no less of a global ill now than it ever was. I would think that, according to body count and raw human suffering, it is a far worse problem today than it was during the Spanish inquisition or Salem witch trials.
The advance of skeptical, critical thinking is very slow, is almost everywhere opposed by well-intentioned moralists harking for a never-extant halcyon age. So no, I don't believe cautionary dystopias are excessive or unnecessary. Some may even be brilliant. No one's running around screaming "the sky is falling". Just that you consider the tale and its implications.
I entirely agree with this, but I would add that critical thinking is also a learned behavior, and a shield against objectification by an oppressive force or regime. We as a species can fight against what some consider dystopic certainty by arming ourselves and others with the critical skills to properly evaluate the world around us.
This is a principle that I believe many slashdotters grasp. I find myself wondering lately if this critical mass could be employed to help spread cultural critique, rather than just discuss it amongst ourselves. Left, right, or center, we are a community of critical thinkers.
Just like people with no bread to eat could choose to eat cake.
I fear sometimes that the chill I feel when I hear this phrase is prophetic.
the more crowded and regulated the internet gets, the more the inner geek will start looking around for a less crowded place.
Maybe some kind of wireless wetware grafted in surgically. Make medical privacy laws work for data privacy?
...is frequently mentioned here in approving tones. You wouldn't want people to go on doing things without permission, would you? The State knows what's best.
Wow. Yeah. You know, not having lead in my food and not having my 10 year old nephew working in a factory - man, those over-regulating bastards. It is exactly the same thing as abridging access and privacy on the internet.
Exactly the same.
Awesome show. Great job.
Actually the new bosses are turning health care over to a Monopoly with a long history of patient abuse for undisclosed sums.
I wish your version was true! We would be better off even in Government hands.
I'm not sure I agree with your first categorization, but you have my full-throated support on your second. A government-run public option would definitely have been better for us. Too bad the Dems are suffering from spinal atrophy.
Oh, you meant that you want to keep downloading stuff for free, just that you want to be immune from negative consequences?
Uhh nnooo I think he said: people who want to see dramatic copyright reform
The "respect" for copyright requires copyright in good faith. If that trust is broken, I have no respect for the law - and neither should you.
Now I think someone could, maybe should, start a campaign of publicized copyright infringement. One person won't do it, but hundreds, or thousands, offering themselves up for arrest would start to make waves.
I don't know, I've been thinking about the best way to do it for a while now. I don't know if we have the luxury of waiting much longer.
When communism was a "global trend" the old-style US had the balls to stand out against it.
Yes, I recall. Thank God for McCarthy and the HUAC, or Communism would have destroyed the Republic.
hell I didn't even vote
Then your opinion is irrelevant. Please refrain from posting.
Blizzard installer *mumble, mumble* tell users about the P2P component and let them opt-out.
They do, and you can. Move along.