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Auto-Scanning the Names People Choose For Their Wireless APs

MichaelSmith writes "I code on the tram, going to and from work, and I noticed that there are a lot of WiFi access points along the way. So one week I made it my job to write an automatic scanner which runs from a cron job every minute during commuting times. My backup script pushes the new AP names to my web server and you can read it online. It is a mixture of the straightforward, naive and funny, with a few pop culture references along the way. The first column in the file is the number of access points with that name. The second column is the AP name, in brackets to pick up white space." Why can't "Dress Me Slowly" and "Domestic Bliss" just share an AP?

422 comments

  1. Interesting Mix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The closest thing to 'goatse' I could find was 'GOATNET'.

    1. Re:Interesting Mix by zonky · · Score: 1

      There is a FreeMidgetPorn AP in Central Wellington, New Zealand. I sort of suspect it is near or in the TradeMe offices....

  2. Only 29 Named 'Linksys'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Only 29 locations named linksys? I think there are that many in my neighborhood alone.

    1. Re:Only 29 Named 'Linksys'? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

      They are the nation's largest provider of free wifi, with their fierce competitor "dlink" close behind...

    2. Re:Only 29 Named 'Linksys'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is very nice

      Thank you very much

      Regards,
      http://www.onlinea1.com/vb

    3. Re:Only 29 Named 'Linksys'? by clarkkent09 · · Score: 1

      My favorite is NETGEAR. It just seems more inviting with all uppercase letters.

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    4. Re:Only 29 Named 'Linksys'? by Bengie · · Score: 1

      My recent dlink wifi defaulted with wifi disabled and to enable it, I had to set a password to even activate for the first time. After the first time, it didn't care.

      Either way, I proudly broadcast my SSID knowing I use a 26char hex password with AES.

    5. Re:Only 29 Named 'Linksys'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NETGEAR, linksys and dlink have worked well for me in the past.

      A couple times, though, they weren't providing service where I needed it so I had to solve the little math puzzle used by 2WIRE. Fortunately my laptop can solve that within about 2-3 minutes so it wasn't too bad.

    6. Re:Only 29 Named 'Linksys'? by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 1

      I use "RemoveUnderwearToLogin" as the SSID.
      Of course, removing clothing is not enough by itself. Access is also protected by WPA2/AES and a nontrivial password.

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    7. Re:Only 29 Named 'Linksys'? by mrclisdue · · Score: 1

      ...Of course, removing clothing is not enough by itself. Access is also protected by WPA2/AES and a nontrivial password.

      Yes, I know. Now if I can only guess your lizard's middle name, I can get all the she-male porn I want....

      Oh, and I borrowed 10 bucks from your savings acct - I'll slide some money over from your mastercard to cover it.

      cheers,

    8. Re:Only 29 Named 'Linksys'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I let mine be open for anyone until some neighbor started downloading torrents and being a hog. Some of the names I'd use (I'd rotate often for no reason other than to make me laugh): RustyTrombone, FuckYourMotherInTheAss, FreeCandy, DickDusterMoustache, FreeCoffeeForAsking (lived within range of a coffee shop with free wifi), IKnowWhereYouLive, OuchDaddyMyBottomHurts, NakedTwister, Douchebag, CuntyMcCuntsalot, DickDickButt, CircleJerk, TwoLesbianMoms, PocketPool, and other juvenile names because I happen to have a very juvenile sense of humor.

    9. Re:Only 29 Named 'Linksys'? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      I name mine "VirusSource".

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  3. epitome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This article is truly the epitome of a slow news day. Happy spring everyone!

    1. Re:epitome by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      It's Autumn, you insensitive Northern-Hemispheric clod!

    2. Re:epitome by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Wait! When they said the seasons were reversed in the Southern Hemisphere I thought that meant they had cold snowy summers and hot, humid winters; with flowers blooming in the fall, and the leaves on the trees changing to brilliant colours in the spring.

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  4. Best SSID by thewils · · Score: 5, Funny

    The SSID I use is "Honeypot"

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    1. Re:Best SSID by JWSmythe · · Score: 5, Informative

          I used to leave mine unencrypted, and change the name occasionally, calling it "BankOfAmerica", "FirstBankOf[mycity]", "FBI", "NSA", "CovertOps4", etc. I was very disappointed that I didn't have people trying to do nefarious things.

          Now I just call it "unreachable", and encrypted, which seems to have the same result. Ok, that's a lie, but I'm not going to post my real SSID here. :)

          I really appreciate all the folks with the Verizon DSL/FiOS routers with the 5 character SSID's, since those are easily crackable. They're nicer than the unencrypted ones, since I'm not competing with other users for the line. :)

          My last drive got over 2,000 in about 20 miles. Most were totally boring, and like 25% were unencrypted.

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    2. Re:Best SSID by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

      Mine's Stovokor .

      Join if you wish :)

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    3. Re:Best SSID by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 1

      I really appreciate all the folks with the Verizon DSL/FiOS routers with the 5 character SSID's, since those are easily crackable

      My bro just got FiOS and from what I saw on the router, not only was there are a 5-digit SSID, but the default encryption was WEP.

    4. Re:Best SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use "Achievement Unlocked!"

    5. Re:Best SSID by Again · · Score: 1, Funny

      I use CIASecretSatellite.

    6. Re:Best SSID by quantumplacet · · Score: 5, Informative

      My FIOS wireless router came w/ 64 bit WEP enabled and a little brochure that claimed that cracking wireless networks was "just in theory" and that 64 bit WEP was in "as secure as a wired network".

    7. Re:Best SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I named mine "GOATSE", no password, no encryption, but unauthorized connections get redirected automatically... They can't say they weren't warned.

    8. Re:Best SSID by jawtheshark · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Ok, that's a lie, but I'm not going to post my real SSID here.

      Why not? Mine is "sharks.wireless", my parents one is "jungle.wireless". The one I'm not going to give is the one my brother has, because it's our surname.wireless. I wasn't very imaginative that day it seems. (Our surname is findable online: I just don't routinely post it on forums) The other names just reflect the naming schemes of the network: I use shark species and my parents network uses characters from Kiplings Jungle Book.

      They're all encrypted and if for some odd reason, some slashdotter might be close to where I live, he/she will still have to crack that encryption.

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    9. Re:Best SSID by bertoelcon · · Score: 4, Funny

      I use "GetOffMyLawn". It is very fitting for having a large enough yard that you can't see it without being on the lawn or in the house.

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    10. Re:Best SSID by tagno25 · · Score: 1

      Mine is "Private2.4", "Private5.8", and the FON is "FON_FREE_INTERNET"

    11. Re:Best SSID by Cyberax · · Score: 2, Informative

      "as secure as a wired network"

      Considering that you can tap wired network just by cutting a cable and connecting it through a hub - your brochure was quite correct.

    12. Re:Best SSID by Catchwa · · Score: 1

      I use "WPA2-PSK so don't even bother"
      Interestingly, the Netgear at my parent's place allows the ' in the SSID but my Billion doesn't.

    13. Re:Best SSID by norletsk · · Score: 2

      For those of us who don't know, what is wrong with a short SSID(i.e. 5 digits) if a strong encryption(WPA) is used?

    14. Re:Best SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? Yeah, I hate it when I have to break into people's homes to tap into their wireless. Nice try Verizon.

    15. Re:Best SSID by tagno25 · · Score: 1

      but that requires physical access to the wire (which is usually in the wall) and access to a 10/100 hub (not a switching hub)

    16. Re:Best SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps they were just making the observation that WEP stands for "Wired Equivalent Privacy".

    17. Re:Best SSID by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      Random fun fact: despite what it might claim about being a 'switch', if your consumer 10/100/1000 device has only 1 collision light, it is probably barely smarter than a hub, if that...

    18. Re:Best SSID by tagno25 · · Score: 1

      I have not used a consumer switch in ~2 years. I have been using a Procurve. (almost forgot that managed switches can become hubs via port mirroring)

    19. Re:Best SSID by faragon · · Score: 1

      claimed that cracking wireless networks was "just in theory" and that 64 bit WEP was in "as secure as a wired network".

      Really?

    20. Re:Best SSID by jandrese · · Score: 4, Informative

      If your switch has a collision light, you might just have a hub.

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    21. Re:Best SSID by Machtyn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Many of the APs I set up use the person's name (or a play on it) with NET added to the end. I'm a little concerned about privacy, but I run the issue past the client. If they are concerned, I turn off the SSID broadcast and/or use whatever name they want.

    22. Re:Best SSID by atamido · · Score: 1

      Fun fact: My cheap $20 5 port gigabit consumer switch can push over 400Mbps copying files on a Windows SMB share between two desktops with onboard NICs and whatever random hard drives. When it comes right down to it, it's usually okay to pay 10% of the price for 90% of the performance that you're likely to be able to use.

    23. Re:Best SSID by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't you mean Get off my LAN?

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    24. Re:Best SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I named mine Lemming Kingdom, I don't use encryption, so anyone can use my internet connection, not that I care, since I browse little and latency is no issue for me, besides, I have an IC with no caps so I intend to use it fully.

    25. Re:Best SSID by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      Presumably, the 5-digit SSID is a cue that the person hasn't changed anything from default, and so it's still using 64-bit WEP.

    26. Re:Best SSID by JWSmythe · · Score: 3, Interesting

          Look around online a little bit. The 5 character SSID is generated from the MAC, and so is the key. You can extrapolate enough for the SSID and the known parts of the MAC to generate the key.

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    27. Re:Best SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FYI, you can use spaces and characters in your SSID.

    28. Re:Best SSID by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      And so does WLAN. Physical access to the photons of its radiation. ^^
      And a hub can be simulated.

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    29. Re:Best SSID by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Funny

      Mine is called "NotForYou!".... and then is unsecured. I like to be generous to those who don't do as they're told

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    30. Re:Best SSID by cgenman · · Score: 1

      Ok, that's a lie, but I'm not going to post my real SSID here. :)

      Is there a reason why? It's not like anyone close enough to use your SSID won't immediately know it.

      And I'm sure by now, everyone knows that for proper neighborhood wireless spectrum balancing everyone should be broadcasting their SSID, right? Otherwise, it's basically impossible to manage bandwidth in an area, as everyone secretly camps on top of everyone else, right?

      Ok, just wanted to make sure of that.

    31. Re:Best SSID by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      A hub can handle that with no other traffic. Now hook up two more computers and try for two 400mbps streams at once.

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    32. Re:Best SSID by cdrudge · · Score: 5, Funny

      The w in lawn is silent.

    33. Re:Best SSID by fatbuttlarry · · Score: 3, Funny

      Mine's called "Linksys" and the password is "1234", but there must be a problem because it always lists two of them and some times I make changes and it doesn't save.

    34. Re:Best SSID by sirsnork · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Along that train of thought I'm betting

      [É*ÙC/îa|bziürÍqe¦>IÏqKÎ:]

      is also the key for this AP

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    35. Re:Best SSID by JWSmythe · · Score: 4, Interesting

          Oh, I definitely broadcast my SSID. I've run into the stomping into each other problem before. It's a pain to do a site survey of who's around, pick a channel, just to find out that there's other traffic interfering.

          I know mine is receivable for a longer distance than others in the neighborhood. When they installed it, I wasn't here, and they put the AP under a desk, with a metal file cabinet beside it. {sigh}. I moved it up on top of the file cabinet, and that (amazingly enough) fixed a lot of my problems. I'd guess the neighbors got theirs installed somewhere, and they left it exactly where it was placed.

          I've had to change my channel twice where I am now, because the defaults for whatever a neighbor installed were on my channel and ruined my throughput. I may look like a lunatic walking around the house with the laptop listening, but it tells me what channels are being used, and what are free. It's kinda funny, there are three near the house that are all on the same channel. I bet they wonder why their connection is terrible, but it's not mine to fix. That, and I'm not ambitious enough to go find their house and offer to fix it. I did that once in an office building. Someone turned on an AP and stomped on my traffic. I wandered around, found them, went to the receptionist for the company and asked to see whoever was in charge of IT. They were completely oblivious to what I was asking.

      "Who takes care of problems with your computers?"
      "I don't know"
      "Can you please find someone who does know?"
      "Why?"
      "Because your access point is broadcasting over the legal limits for power, and is disrupting service for other occupants of the building."
      "What's an access point?"
      "It's the device that handles wireless network traffic."
      "I don't think we're on a network."
      "Can you go to web sites?"
      "yes"
      "Then you're on a network. Can you find the person who runs it"
      "No one here knows." (without asking or even picking up the phone)

      The conversation went on for a few more minutes, before I just gave up.

      I didn't know positively that they were over the legal limits, but since I had a good signal from their office several floors below, and even a good distance from the building, I figured they were doing something they shouldn't be. At least when I've put high gain antennas on, I look around, make sure I won't interfere with anyone, and use a very narrow beam antenna (i.e., a good parabolic), that doesn't come close to any other buildings. When I went hunting for my own signal in that circumstance, I couldn't even pick it up at ground level standing under the receiving antenna, 20' below it. I've only done that on long point-to-point connections, not as a general AP in an office building.

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    36. Re:Best SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do not use curse words where a young child will see it. You will get hacked. Once I've found your address I shall superglue your tires to the pavement, fill the locks to your home with jb weld, remove your power meter and piss on your garden.

      Then I get mean.

    37. Re:Best SSID by JWSmythe · · Score: 2, Interesting

          That's what it came with? I guess they're doing better practices since word got out that their encryption was amazingly weak. Too bad they can't go back and fix up all the existing installs.

          I'll use an example one.

      SSID: YVFS1 (just made it up, don't get your hopes up)

      Could have the WEP key of:

      18012DE06E
      or
      1F902DE06E

      That only depends on which series it was. There are two known groupings, and a third that the generator I have doesn't do, but it'd be easy enough to code into it.

      For people I know, I've gone in and changed both their SSID and key, so they're stronger than average. :)

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    38. Re:Best SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ACTUALLY ... if you ever run into the hell that is a DUPLEX MISMATCH, you'll be grateful that your SWITCH does in fact have a COLLISION LIGHT.

      Why yes, I am CAPITALIZING random WORDS this evening. It's a RESULT of the prodigious quantity of ALCOHOL I have been drinking.

      THANK YOU. Now go back to scribbling about THINGS you DO NOT FULLY appreciate. This is SLASHDOT, after all. :-)

    39. Re:Best SSID by Onymous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Yep, definitely raising kids well by example.

    40. Re:Best SSID by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      I call mine @#!$%#&^NOCARRIER...

      It is open plain text and no-one else ever tries to connect - I wonder why?

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    41. Re:Best SSID by __aasqbs9791 · · Score: 1

      Like that AC will ever reproduce. They're a Darwin award waiting to happen.

    42. Re:Best SSID by Bengie · · Score: 1

      I doubt a hub can do 400mbps since they don't make gigabit hubs and a 100mbps hub peaks at 100mbps of aggregate bandwidth.

      On a side note, using iperf on my two home computer's, I get 1.5gbit/s when doing iperf on both up and down to work the full-duplex. I have a feeling my limit is the TCP offloading on my crappy integrate Dell NIC.

      What is a good CPU usage for gigabit? My comp gets ~4% kernel time when iperf is doing 946mbit one way.

      My crappy 1 year old $1k Best Buy Dell sux.. ehh? Full TCP/UDP+IPv4/6 offloading with Vista/Win7 chimney support.. w00t.iperf claims I have a 0.001ms ping to my wife's computer. Is that 1 microsecond?

    43. Re:Best SSID by ajs · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So it seems that someone wanted to survey the names people use for wireless access points, but was too lazy to do the research, so they put up a Web site with some fake data and posted to Slashdot in the hopes that everyone would post their clever names as comments.

      Guess it worked... ;-)

    44. Re:Best SSID by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      Oh, don't think I was being elitist... I have a $50 8 port D-link gigE switch, and a $30 Netgear 5 port switch, and just to make life interesting, my wife and I's PCs, the media center etc, are on the 8 port, and we have 2 NASes (1 FreeNAS box with 4TB of storage), our firewall (running pfSense on a Comcast 50/5 connection, as I work from home), and a XenServer machine running several Linux and Windows VMs on the 5 port, so there is a lot of interplay of traffic... I usually see between 300 and 600mbps depending on what I'm doing, and this is good enough for me.

    45. Re:Best SSID by atamido · · Score: 1

      I'd say 4% is in the "Wow, that's low" category for those speeds.

    46. Re:Best SSID by dotgain · · Score: 1

      Given the shocking state of 802.11 implementations, I don't use spaces or symbols in my SSIDs just to save myself trouble when some mongrel device comes along with some special requirements.

    47. Re:Best SSID by cskrat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Doesn't matter what the key is if it's using WEP. That's barely a couple minutes of number crunching for a cheap when it was new 3 years ago laptop. Seriously, it takes longer for a seasoned chain smoker to finish a Marb 72.

      WPA-TKIP has been shown to have exploitable weaknesses so it will likely be cracked and then trivialized soon as well (if it hasn't been already). WAP-AES is reasonably secure at the moment but I wouldn't be surprised if that falls within the next few years as well.

      Encryption is, and always has been, an arms race.

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    48. Re:Best SSID by u235meltdown · · Score: 1

      Didn't see any fon SSIDs on the list :-(
      Foneros unite!

    49. Re:Best SSID by kiddygrinder · · Score: 1

      the difference being you need physical access to cut a wire (which almost ever happens), where as you can hack a wireless network from next door (which happens... a lot).

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    50. Re:Best SSID by fm6 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ok, that's a lie, but I'm not going to post my real SSID here. :)

      Why not? Knowing your SSID doesn't help anybody guess your paraphrase.

      BTW, who's your favorite porn star?

    51. Re:Best SSID by methamorph · · Score: 1

      Mine is called "Password Sniffer".

    52. Re:Best SSID by Securityemo · · Score: 1

      They where lying.

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    53. Re:Best SSID by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      And I'm sure by now, everyone knows that for proper neighborhood wireless spectrum balancing everyone should be broadcasting their SSID, right? Otherwise, it's basically impossible to manage bandwidth in an area, as everyone secretly camps on top of everyone else, right?

      No, I didn't know that. I don't broadcast my SSID as an added measure of security, and because I don't any reason why I should. Explain, please.

    54. Re:Best SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We reproduce by mythosis.

    55. Re:Best SSID by ivoras · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's a wrong way to do this conversation - you really need to pull something like: "I'm concerned the radiation levels of your wireless router are causing you all to have brain cancer" followed by "innocent" inquiries into if anyone on the office has headaches or problems sleeping, suggesting the AP might be the cause. It's bullshit of course but the only way to get people interested is to make it about *their* asses. If you're good enough (i.e. go through it in a really circumspect way) you may even get them to pay you to investigate and reconfigure the said AP :)

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    56. Re:Best SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SSID = "fritzldenwan", "wirelessflappingcocks" and "help_daddytouchesme" frankly trump all of the above. Its a shame i live in a neighbour that doesn't get many people past it.

    57. Re:Best SSID by Eremotherium · · Score: 1

      Simple answer: security by obscurity is no security. Passive Wifi scanners will pick up the SSID nontheless. Or maybe I'm wrong here but the ESSID will definitely still be readable. Also: MAC-Filters are equally retarded as a security measure albeit for a different reason.

    58. Re:Best SSID by elsJake · · Score: 1

      The SSID is used as a salt for the WPA/WPA2--PSK. There's rainbow tables available for the most common 1000 SSIDs and all pass-phrases up to 23 characters. I'm guessing someone took the time to generate some tables with all salts less than 5 characters as well , in addition to those 1000 most commonly used.

    59. Re:Best SSID by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Simple answer: security by obscurity is no security.

      Untrue. Security by obscurity is inadequate security. An access point whose only security element is not broadcasting its SSID is obviously unacceptably vulnerable. But as part of a layered approach, you've made yourself invisible to the most common way of scanning for APs in the vincinity. It's still findable, but it's harder. You've increased the chances that you'll go unnoticed and thus unhacked. By itself, it's not enough, but it does help.

    60. Re:Best SSID by camperdave · · Score: 1

      If all you're doing is listening to the wire, there aren't going to be any collisions anyways.

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    61. Re:Best SSID by maxume · · Score: 1

      The 1 million password tables for the the 1000 most common SSIDs take up 40 GB of space, I sort of doubt that there is anybody doing much distribution of the 300-400 GB of data required to fill out the other 9000+ 5 character SSIDs.

      Rainbow Table description:

      http://www.churchofwifi.org/default.asp?PageLink=Project_Display.asp?PID=90

      Also, note that 1 million passwords is not anywhere near providing coverage for all passwords up to 23 characters, of which there are some ludicrous number, ~70^23, depending on how you choose your characters. Still, they do attack the most common passwords, which are apparently disturbingly common.

      Basically, a 14 or 15 character password with a little bit of of noise in it is going to be plenty to resist attack from rainbow tables, at least for quite some time.

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    62. Re:Best SSID by Internalist · · Score: 1

      Why yes, I am CAPITALIZING random WORDS this evening

      Doesn't look random at all to me. Looks like fairly judicious use of capitalization to focus particular aspects of your contribution to the discussion. :0)

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    63. Re:Best SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use a 4 character SSID, and have a long (I can't remember, but perhaps 60 character) random password. Do I need to change my SSID, or is this only a problem if you let the router create a password for you?

    64. Re:Best SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I moved into my current apartment, I brought along my laptop to listen to some tunes. Being curious, I tried linking up to the available APs here. One immediately struck me as "once bitten, twice secure", which read "Nice try neighbor".

    65. Re:Best SSID by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      Haha, that's some serious marketing bullshit right there.

      WEP is supposed to be equivalent to a wired connection - which takes physical access and a good deal of know-how to splice into. That's actually what WEP stands for - Wired-Equivalent Protocol, but it hasn't been equivalent to a wired connection in over a decade. It's still hard to physically hack a wire, but it's almost hard not to hack WEP. Seconds is all you need and it is done.

      That's why WPA was created, but even it is slightly more vulnerable than a wire.

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    66. Re:Best SSID by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      If you are getting collisions at all, you probably aren't using a switch.

      That's the point of a switch - it separates the collision domains out to each individual device - the only thing a computer connected to a switch can have collision issues with is itself.

      Oddly enough, that's not impossible. If the switch port and network card were not able to auto-negotiate their connection for some reason and the switch is running at say full duplex and the network card is running at half duplex you will see a hell of a lot of collisions. You may still get data through, but it will be occasional instead of perfect like a proper connection to a switch.

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    67. Re:Best SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PS -- couldn't resist -- the "redundant" mod is an on-topic joke... ;-p

    68. Re:Best SSID by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      If there is a clear line of sight even a weak wireless signal can go for hundreds of yards, and potentially a hell of a lot farther. I believe the current record for an unamplified wireless link is over 55 miles.

      A standard wireless AP broadcasting well within normal limits with a standard antenna that is mounted on top of an office building can have a very significant range. I wouldn't expect to see it out past a mile, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were accessible inside that range.

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    69. Re:Best SSID by machine321 · · Score: 1

      Zippy? Zippy the Pinhead? Is that you?

    70. Re:Best SSID by Artifex · · Score: 1

      Why yes, I am CAPITALIZING random WORDS this evening

      Doesn't look random at all to me. Looks like fairly judicious use of capitalization to focus particular aspects of your contribution to the discussion. :0)

      That was you last night, posting anonymously, wasn't it? :)

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    71. Re:Best SSID by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 2, Informative

      The encryption used in WEP (RC4) is secure, it's just the implementation that is flawed. The weak IVs allow an attacker to recover the key used, which lets one get onto the network. The attack doesn't break RC4.
      Encryption is an arms race, but the implementation is often the easiest thing to attack.

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    72. Re:Best SSID by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      An access point whose only security element is not broadcasting its SSID is obviously unacceptably vulnerable. But as part of a layered approach, you've made yourself invisible to the most common way of scanning for APs in the vincinity.

      Those scanning with the most common ways will not be able to break in. Give it even just WEP and you'll never be hacked, unless you have someone that's targeting you directly (in which case the broadcast is irrelevant) or you have a bad neighbor.

      You broadcast your SSID even when SSID broadcast is off, it's just that standard software plays nice and pretends it doesn't see it, or more common now, reports it with Unknown for the SSID or something like that. If we assume that all software now reports Unknown, then not broadcasting your SSID gives you no safety (whether through obscurity or otherwise), but hurts others ability to power balance the neighborhood.

      If your thought is "but they can't connect if they don't know my SSID" I'd point out that every cracking software I've ever messed with for this will give the SSID of those not broadcast. It would take a protocol change to put the SSID inside the encryption, so it's not like the SSID will stop being broadcast any time soon, even if you turn off the beacon packets and it's just in the data packets that the old clients used to ignore.

      It's as good of security for WAPs as putting a "no solicitors" sign on your front door. It may make your feel better, but it doesn't actually stop anyone, and only those that choose to obey it will be affected.

    73. Re:Best SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And MAYBE it's really a ploy to find people just clever and paranoid enough to see through something like this and, well, guess it worked! Watch out, next thing you know they'll be knocking on your door.

    74. Re:Best SSID by cgenman · · Score: 1

      An access point whose only security element is not broadcasting its SSID is obviously unacceptably vulnerable. But as part of a layered approach, you've made yourself invisible to the most common way of scanning for APs in the vincinity.

      The most common tools to hack wireless networks all sniff for packets, rather than broadcasts. Anyone looking to spend the hours to hack into a wireless network is probably stationary, or specifically targeting a location or company. Having an unbroadcast SSID will stop wardrivers who are just interested in finding an open wireless signal. But so would any form of encryption.

      Not broadcasting your SSID is like saying that removing the post office numbers from the front of your house is part of a layered approach to keeping people from stealing from you. The possible confusion to thieves looking for your particular house number is minimal, but the annoyance to the Post Office would be severe.

      The security you add by not broadcasting your SSID is minimal to none at best. What it does do, however, is screw up people who attempt to figure out which are the overburdened portions of the spectrum in an area and balance properly. As I mentioned, all automated hacking tools sniff for active use packets. Most router configuration software, however, just listen for SSID broadcasts. Neighborhood ad-hoc spectrum utilization is already hard enough to maintain. When half of the networks in a neighborhood are hiding themselves due to a misplaced sense of security, it just means that normal users have even less of a chance of finding proper spectrum to utilize without themselves using hacking tools.

    75. Re:Best SSID by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          The one that was being a problem was in their suite. I walked the floor listening, and found the strongest signal to be a few feet from their front door. I had also done the same thing on adjoining floors, and it was weaker, but still lead towards the same location.

          Ya, we can get some tremendous range, with the appropriate equipment. I asked a HAM guy, who was also very knowledgable in IT stuff including wireless networking, about my theoretical range, assuming line of site wasn't a problem (i.e., on a tall building). If I recall correctly, he said about 30 miles. Not a record breaker, but impressive enough to make me happy. :) The reason I asked him was, at 1/2 mile with the antennas focused on each other, I had 100% signal strength. With the same AP's with their included omnidirectional antennas, you could get 75% sitting 5 feet away from it

          I saw some of the DefCon stuff from a few years ago on their long range shots. It was very entertaining. At the time, I was living in a mountanious area, but I didn't really think it practical to bring an old C/KU antenna in my sports car up a mountain to try to prove anything. :) I'm sure that would have been entertaining for anyone else to see. Now I'm a flatlander. My practical line of site drops off at 15 miles, if all those damned buildings and trees weren't in the way. :) We don't have any natural high points, so it makes it harder to play with longer shots, if I were so inclined.

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    76. Re:Best SSID by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      For those of us who don't know, what is wrong with a short SSID(i.e. 5 digits) if a strong encryption(WPA) is used?

      Nothing. The SSID is used as salt for the hashing function of WPA/WPA2, but this is designed to defeat rainbow tables, not to be a secret part of the encryption. Broadcasting it in public by design seems to verify that it doesn't need to be secret. :)

      Regardless of how long/short the SSID is, as long as it's not one of the top 1000 used, (which have already been rainbow tabled) or probably the next 1000, it really doesn't matter how long it is.

      Having said that, the shorter it is, the greater the chance that somebody, somewhere, has generated rainbow tables just for kicks, as a brute force method.

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    77. Re:Best SSID by euxneks · · Score: 1

      That's a wrong way to do this conversation - you really need to pull something like: "I'm concerned the radiation levels of your wireless router are causing you all to have brain cancer" followed by "innocent" inquiries into if anyone on the office has headaches or problems sleeping, suggesting the AP might be the cause. It's bullshit of course but the only way to get people interested is to make it about *their* asses. If you're good enough (i.e. go through it in a really circumspect way) you may even get them to pay you to investigate and reconfigure the said AP :)

      Ahh.. Social Hacking. My favourite kind of hacking.

      --
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    78. Re:Best SSID by elsJake · · Score: 1

      Hope you feed it proper filtered power , some of mine used to go haywire when there was a power fluctuation.

  5. Gone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Four comments, and the linked server has already exploded.

  6. MY_NETWORK by dangitman · · Score: 2, Funny

    My backup script pushes the new AP names to my web server and you can read it on line.

    You're not hosting your page via one of those access points, are you? I think it just melted.

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    ... and then they built the supercollider.
    1. Re:MY_NETWORK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The IP address of the server belongs to Spin Internet Services, an Australian ISP, and the reverse lookup has a ".dyn." name component, suggesting a dynamic assignment. Professional web hosting, even shared hosting, should not go down that fast. He's probably hosting his web page at home.

    2. Re:MY_NETWORK by Sarten-X · · Score: 1

      This is why links doomed for a Slashdot article should go through CoralCDN, first.

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      You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
  7. already by adairw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    slashdotted

    1. Re:already by Dayofswords · · Score: 1

      yep, i cant get to the "automatic scanner" link

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      Someday we'll hit the human carrying capacity. And the band will just play on.
    2. Re:already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Self-slashdotted

    3. Re:already by BoppreH · · Score: 1

      The website hosting the text file was also slashdotted. That's a truly impressive achievement.

    4. Re:already by BoppreH · · Score: 1

      What a shame, I have just noticed that they are in the same top-level domain. I hope I don't lose my geek card over it.

    5. Re:already by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      slashdotted

      No kidding. Posting your personal Web site to Slashdot is a great way to run up some extra bandwidth charges.

      --
      The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
    6. Re:already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a shame, I have just noticed that they are in the same top-level domain. I hope I don't lose my geek card over it.

      Their DNS is working fine, so the fact that they share a TLD is moot. A more accurate observation would be that both FQDNs resolve to the same IP.

    7. Re:already by shird · · Score: 1

      There's a far better resource here anyway:
      http://wigle.net/gps/gps/main/ssidstats

              1967466 9.481%
      linksys 1767274 8.516%
      default 543979 2.621%
      NETGEAR 499542 2.407%
      Belkin54g 230670 1.111%
      no_ssid 215863 1.040%
      Wireless 201520 0.971%
      hpsetup 154749 0.745%
      WLAN 99567 0.479%
      DLINK 85869 0.413%
      ACTIONTEC 82937 0.399%
      home 80043 0.385%
              70417 0.339%
      Free Public WiFi 56769 0.273%

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      I.O.U One Sig.
    8. Re:already by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      It goes out through comcen but I think my mistake was posting a link to the repo with the code in it. Most likely the text file with the ap names was not causing the server to run away. I have renamed the directory with the code repo in it and the system is holding its own for now.

      This certainly an eye opener for me. I thought I was prepared.

    9. Re:already by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      This certainly an eye opener for me. I thought I was prepared.

      Wiser men than either of us have thought that ... and given the number of major sites that Slashdot has brought to their knees I suspect you won't be the last.

      this article seems rather apropos.

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      The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
  8. On a lazy Saturday evening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    MichaelSmith /.s his own server.

    1. Re:On a lazy Saturday evening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lazy Saturday, posted in the late afternoon.
      Tweet Timothy just to see how he's doin'.
      Hello?
      What up, Tim?
      Yo Smith, what's crackin'?
      You thinking what I'm thinkin?
      SLASHDOTING.
      Man, it's happenin'.

    2. Re:On a lazy Saturday evening by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Informative

      I can't believe it. I extracted the text file from mercurial and put it on disk as a plain text file. I submitted this article before I went out to my son's birthday party. When I got back I wondered why nothing was working.

      Once the smoke clears from my office I will go through the logs and try to work out whether it was the single, short plain text file or the link to the source code which did the damage.

    3. Re:On a lazy Saturday evening by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Saturday 8.00 PM in New York is Sunday morning in Australia.

      --
      Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
    4. Re:On a lazy Saturday evening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      erm... "coral cache" rings any bell?

    5. Re:On a lazy Saturday evening by dov_0 · · Score: 1

      Well, Sunday as far as Melbourne is concerned...

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      sudo mount --milk --sugar /cup/tea /mouth /etc/init.d/relax start
    6. Re:On a lazy Saturday evening by MichaelSmith · · Score: 3, Funny

      erm... "coral cache" rings any bell?

      It does now.

    7. Re:On a lazy Saturday evening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There were a lot of redundant bytes in that file. The numbers and the [ and ]

  9. Having RTFA for once... by AccUser · · Score: 5, Funny

    My favourite is the tie fighter: ]-o-[

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    Any fool can talk, but it takes a wise man to listen.

    1. Re:Having RTFA for once... by nacturation · · Score: 1

      My favourite is the tie fighter: ]-o-[

      You sure that's not goatse?

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    2. Re:Having RTFA for once... by drachenstern · · Score: 1

      Thanks for spoiling that one, I was thinking the PP made a compelling point, now you've gone and ruined it...

      Guess I could still recommend it to my brother and laugh everytime I visit huh?

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      2^3 * 31 * 647
    3. Re:Having RTFA for once... by Nimey · · Score: 1

      |-o-| would be closer to a TIE fighter, not so?

      --
      Hail Eris, full of mischief...

      E pluribus sanguinem
    4. Re:Having RTFA for once... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      That would be ( =(O)= )

      It's like yelling.

    5. Re:Having RTFA for once... by geminidomino · · Score: 4, Informative

      <-o-> TIE Interceptor
      <-oo-> TIE Bomber
      [-o-] Darth Vader's Prototype TIE Fighter (TIE Advanced)

    6. Re:Having RTFA for once... by WoRLoKKeD · · Score: 1

      And for my fellow EVE geeks... 8===0o0===8

      It's a Rifter!

      --
      Immolation is the sincerest form of flattery.
    7. Re:Having RTFA for once... by bertoelcon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      8===0o0===8 looks a little like a collapsed x-wing too.

      --
      Anything can be found funny, from a certain point of view.
    8. Re:Having RTFA for once... by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      It gave me a bit of a chuckle that that got modded informative. :)

    9. Re:Having RTFA for once... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It looks like two penises each trying for the same hole.

    10. Re:Having RTFA for once... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      }K\\\\\\> Thai fighting fish

    11. Re:Having RTFA for once... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sugar tits.

      I don't have her address. Just her mac address and general location.

    12. Re:Having RTFA for once... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      The trying for the same hole bit is just cover.

    13. Re:Having RTFA for once... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or bukkake

    14. Re:Having RTFA for once... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want her mack address...

    15. Re:Having RTFA for once... by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      It's just Mel Gibson.

    16. Re:Having RTFA for once... by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1

      I used this for a while:
      ^^ö^^
      as my email sig, back when I used a certain Chiroptera-named email client.

    17. Re:Having RTFA for once... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the wireless router Mel Gibson would connect to, but only if it isn't Jewish.

  10. hi neighbor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I live in a pretty nice little suburb. Full of old people, business owners, and people who generally don't know how shit works., So, all the APs are default except for two. One is "grandma's house", and the other is "midget sex".

    I really want to find out who named theirs midget sex.

    1. Re:hi neighbor! by adolf · · Score: 4, Funny

      I ran across one recently that called itself "BURN. FACIAL. SUCK IT."

      I've been thinking about putting together a cron job on a spare WRT router that periodically switches between various funny or disparaging SSIDs, myself. I might even leave it unencrypted, with DHCP on, with a random goatse appearing instead of net access.

    2. Re:hi neighbor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was visiting at my sister in law's house and while I was there I configured their wireless router. In the process I discovered over 20 networks withing range. The best name was "JimmyHasADD". They are pretty sure they know which neighbor has that one.

    3. Re:hi neighbor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably nobody - I used to like connecting to unsecured access points and changing the SSID to things like "NO NIGGERS ALLOWED." I think of it as a public service.

    4. Re:hi neighbor! by OverlordQ · · Score: 5, Funny
      --
      Your hair look like poop, Bob! - Wanker.
    5. Re:hi neighbor! by Rorschach1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I came across one in Hong Kong called "DON'T STEAL MY FUCKING WIFI". And of course, it was unsecured.

    6. Re:hi neighbor! by adolf · · Score: 1

      Clever. I like my goatse idea better, though, since it denies them the opportunity to do anything useful, and I'm not currently interested in providing even free Wifi for whoever wanders by, even if it is upside-down. But maybe if it rotated between upside-down, goatse, and tubgirl -- then, maybe, it'd be sufficiently both fun and useless enough to satisfy my sadism. Especially if the rotation interval were short (a minute or two).

    7. Re:hi neighbor! by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wish I had some mod points left. Unfortunately, there's no +1 PureGenius, and the scores only go up to five, while you clearly deserve an eleven.

      --
      No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism. - Winston Churchill
    8. Re:hi neighbor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably nobody - I used to like connecting to unsecured access points and changing the SSID to things like "NO NIGGERS ALLOWED." I think of it as a public service.

      I doubt someone else changed it. Like I said, the neighborhood is full of of people that could not care less about their tech.

      After looking around, two APs use wep. And one is "grandma's house". I'm going to look up some default passwords for routers. Someone's grand-kids are going to be pissed.

    9. Re:hi neighbor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt someone else changed it. Like I said, the neighborhood is full of of people that could not care less about their tech.

      So do I, but it only takes one juvenile smartass with a laptop.

    10. Re:hi neighbor! by LiENUS · · Score: 2, Interesting

      block everything but http, do upside downternet and configure squid to limit bandwidth to 56k (or hell be nice give em 128k isdn) speeds. and block downloading .exe .zip .rar .7z yada yada yada

    11. Re:hi neighbor! by Jello+B. · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, it sure takes a lot of genius to hear about something and post it to Slashdot in a relevant discussion. Somebody get this guy a fucking Nobel Prize in physics.

    12. Re:hi neighbor! by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Perhaps the owner had a mental slip while trying to warn the world not to steal his wife?

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      "16MB (fuck off, MiB fascists)" - The Mighty Buzzard
    13. Re:hi neighbor! by jaminJay · · Score: 1

      I especially appreciate how 'KittenNet' 'mogrifies' everything.

      --
      Leela: "Is all the work done by children?" Alien: "No, not the whipping."
    14. Re:hi neighbor! by aynoknman · · Score: 1

      Perhaps the owner had a mental slip while trying to warn the world not to steal his wife?

      That would be wifie.

      --
      We need a "+1 -- nice sig" moderation.
    15. Re:hi neighbor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One neighbor here has "Cum Dumpster". real nice...

    16. Re:hi neighbor! by MagusSlurpy · · Score: 1

      So you might appreciate what I named mine, over my roomie's protests: "DonkeyShow."

      --
      My sister opened a computer store in Hawaii. She sells C shells by the seashore.
    17. Re:hi neighbor! by audunr · · Score: 2, Funny

      Speaking of fucking, there's one here that's called "I can hear you having sex".

    18. Re:hi neighbor! by cskrat · · Score: 1

      Skip the default password search and just get http://www.backtrack-linux.org/

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      My God! It's full of eval()'s.
    19. Re:hi neighbor! by feepness · · Score: 1

      Somebody get this guy a fucking Nobel Prize in physics.

      I think that's pre-reserved for Obama next year. Then he will increase funding for research that the Sun revolves around the Earth.

    20. Re:hi neighbor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This would be what you were after.

      - fractoid-with-mod-points

    21. Re:hi neighbor! by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      Don't be daft. It shines out of his a....

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  11. Our formar SSID: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bionicman. You can probably guess the password.

    1. Re:Our formar SSID: by HouseOfMisterE · · Score: 1

      Bionicman. You can probably guess the password.

      Was it "da da da da da da da da"?

    2. Re:Our formar SSID: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      How do you spell that "ch-ch-ch-ch" sound that he makes when he jumps?

    3. Re:Our formar SSID: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      JCD?

      brb, reinstalling...

  12. at my uni... by cronco · · Score: 1

    In the middle of one of the university buildings (not in a dorm) there's a network with the SSID "IHaveNetYouSuckerDont".

    1. Re:at my uni... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I have net, you sucker don't." is a valid SSID.

      (1-32 octets. Space, punctuation, etc. are not excluded.)

  13. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by leromarinvit · · Score: 5, Informative

    Huh? There's nothing illegal about logging the names of Wifi networks. Or at least there shouldn't be, as that would be completely crazy.

    It's aking to noting the names people display publicly next to their doorbells, just easier to do. He didn't connect to any of the networks, just log their names. Nothing wrong with that.

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    Proud member of the Ferengi Socialist Party.
  14. Didn't see mine... by RayMarron · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sa-Matra

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    ON DELETE CASCADE
    1. Re:Didn't see mine... by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Funny

      Password: Kohr-Ah

    2. Re:Didn't see mine... by Black+Gold+Alchemist · · Score: 1

      The passphrase is: HoldWhatYouAreDoingToUsIsWrongWhyDoYouDoThisThing

      Then the AP explains is purpose and pwns you anyway.

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      Virtue is a temptation
      Community is a cartel
    3. Re:Didn't see mine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya, but that can always be rooted with the password talking_pet

      Marc

  15. Why. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are a lot of "cute" AP names around, but mine is what the thing came with. The extent of my interest in that equipment is knowing I've properly secured it, and occasionally looking at the access logs. Beyond that I don't care. I've already thought about it way too much today.

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    If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
    1. Re:Why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Besides the fact that assuming someone such as yourself uses WPA/WPA2 PSK, the SSID is seeded with the hash and by using the default one, you leave yourself open to the likes of rainbow table attacks - http://www.renderlab.net/projects/WPA-tables/

    2. Re:Why. by goosesensor · · Score: 1

      way to be a boring old man

    3. Re:Why. by linzeal · · Score: 1

      You must be a lot of fun at work.

    4. Re:Why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty much a load.

      That the parent doesn't with to waste time changing his/her AP name to some dorky roll-playing game related nonsense (or whatever) does not imply anything about his level of security awareness. It implies he/she has better things to do than find a cute publicly available name for his AP. Nothing more.

    5. Re:Why. by Planesdragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are a lot of "cute" AP names around, but mine is what the thing came with. The extent of my interest in that equipment is knowing I've properly secured it

      Re-naming an SSID away from stock is part of properly securing it. Unless you're far enough away from your neighbors that your equipment never sees their access points, having a distinct name is part of ensuring that any client you want on your network properly connects to your network, and doesn't occasionally drop to another network (either through software bug or user error.)

    6. Re:Why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He declared that the SSID he uses "is what the thing came with", which is probably a bad choice and definitely bad advice, since it can't be assumed that default SSIDs are not the same for many devices. Some manufacturers uses SSIDs with random character sequences, but many don't. The SSID is indeed used as a seed value in the calculation of the session keys, so not using a standard SSID increases the security.

      Besides, there are other good reasons for choosing a unique SSID: Your laptop won't try to connect to other networks with the same SSID as yours and it makes debugging simpler. There's no need to be cute, witty or offensive, but not changing the default at all is not a good idea.

    7. Re:Why. by Mistlefoot · · Score: 1

      This assumes that someone who's smart enough:

      1) knows of this attack
      2) lives, or is close enough by to access his wireless
      3) would rather hack this device then look for another non - secured connection
      4) and that the user cares

      http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1520430 shows that ANY car with a keypad entry can be "hacked" in 20 minutes or less. Because it works in theory doesn't mean you are at risk to be stung by it. It's probably easier to break into the OP"s house and steal his wallet then to hack into his network.

    8. Re:Why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh go fuck yourself. You're totally full of shit.

      It's not like you don't have to tell your computers/laptops/printers/phones/wii/digital frames/... your SSID so don't give us your pretentious bullshit that you're above naming things, Mr. Frosty I don't care about naming things they should just work Piss.

    9. Re:Why. by Garble+Snarky · · Score: 1

      Jeez, sorry for trying to insert some fun into a mundane aspect of life. Maybe you should try to relax.

    10. Re:Why. by fm6 · · Score: 1

      And then your neighbor buys the same model router...

    11. Re:Why. by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 1

      Yeah . . . you'd think a guy with the handle "Frosty Piss" would pick better names for stuff . . . oh wait.

      And yeah, as PeeAitchPee, I feel qualified to comment. :-)

    12. Re:Why. by Bengie · · Score: 1

      Even with the default name and rainbow tables, a good password is still safe.
      eg. I have a 26 password and obviously hex. 16^26 = 20,282,409,603,651,670,423,947,251,286,016 combinations. Assume 26bytes per entry in the rainbow table, one byte of each hex char. 5.2734264969494343102262853343642e+32 bytes, divided by 1024 for KB divided by 1024 for MB divided by 1024 for GB is 491,126,114,218,443,102,224,384GB of storage for the rainbow tables. Lets assume you compress this file with a 468,374,361,246,531,584 to 1 compression ratio, you'll still need 1 ExaByte of storage for the rainbow tables. Since the rainbow table is just a large index, you'll need to store more than just the hash, so you're talking about an impossible storage requirement.

      have fun with that.

      I guess the only way around this would you get lucky and there's a hash collision with one of your pre-hashed password and my password. But this issue would also apply to people who even use non-default SSIDs.

  16. Neighbors can be pains! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I made my neighbors mad when I started naming my SSIDs with things like STFU, ByteMe and the ever popular F*Off. Somehow they always knew it was me though.

    For a long time I then stopped broadcasting my SSIDs but now I have them broadcasting but changing every few months.

    1. Re:Neighbors can be pains! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A friend of mine's SSID is educational to dog owners: "Pick up the shit after your dog!".

      It seems to work.

    2. Re:Neighbors can be pains! by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      Neighbor of mine broadcasts "FUCKYOU". Pretty sure I know who it is.

  17. This isn't really your site, is it? by Rix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What'd he ever do to you?

    1. Re:This isn't really your site, is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably scan his SSID.

    2. Re:This isn't really your site, is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't get it. Can you explain who you're talking to, and what about?

  18. should had it set to Linksys, netgear or other def by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    should had it set to Linksys, netgear or other defaults. They you may of seen more hacks.

  19. Mine were by rockclimber · · Score: 1

    linksys sucks
    enter_and_your_hacked
    ADSL sucks
    WOTAM
    somehow, the last one seems most appropriate...

    1. Re:Mine were by MuuTuwon · · Score: 1

      An SSID named "enter_and_your_hacked" is far too tempting to hack and fix the grammatical error.

    2. Re:Mine were by tagno25 · · Score: 1

      An SSID named "enter_and_your_hacked" is far too tempting to hack and fix the grammatical error.

      So change it to "Enter and you will be cracked"?

    3. Re:Mine were by PPH · · Score: 1

      Weak Signal
      Connection unavailable
      Try again later

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  20. On a related note... by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1

    I work at a company where we sell some software which monitors access points. We have to be careful when taking things home to make sure that there aren't any offensive SSIDs that end up on the demo box. Occasionally something Interesting happens and it has to be carefully scrubbed...

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  21. answer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "dress me slowly" is a retro clothing store on Nicholson St in Fitzroy. The tram route is therefore route 96 in Melbourne Australia..

    What? This wasn't one me those tram spotters quizzes?

    1. Re:answer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Looks like you commented using your phone with the T9 input method! How can I tell? You wrote "me" instead of "of".

    2. Re:answer. by GigaplexNZ · · Score: 1

      Odd, I take the 96 tram to work all the time and there's almost never enough room to use a laptop (especially during the busy work hours). Unless he's that dude typing furiously with one thumb into his wifi enabled cellphone, I find this a little hard to believe.

    3. Re:answer. by jack2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He wrote a script, he could have carried the laptop closed and in his backpack and it would still have worked. Think about it derp.

    4. Re:answer. by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      He claimed he "coded" on the tram.

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    5. Re:answer. by GigaplexNZ · · Score: 5, Funny
      Opening line:

      I code on the tram, going to and from work and I noticed that there are a lot of wifi access points along the way.

      I thought about it.

      Sincerely,
      Derp

    6. Re:answer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Creepy, that's my tram.

    7. Re:answer. by some_guy_88 · · Score: 1

      Mine too. Good to hear there are so many /.ers in my local area.

    8. Re:answer. by MichaelSmith · · Score: 3, Informative

      I live in Clarence street in East Brunswick and I get on at Blythe street. Because its at the end of the line I always get a seat. Going the other way I get on at the WTC in Clarendon street and even if the tram is full at that point it half empties at southern cross station. Going to work I normally sit at the northern end of the tram with an eeepc 701 on my lap. Feel free to say hello if you recognise me. I usually get on at 0730 and ~1745 or so.

    9. Re:answer. by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Incidentally the new cafe right at the northern end of the line (Blythe street) has free wifi (its called DLINK). Its a really good, fast connection. If the tram is slow taking off in the morning I have time to download my /. posts from overnight. But normally I don't have time.

    10. Re:answer. by GigaplexNZ · · Score: 1

      Ah, I forgot about that half of the route. I get on at the St Kilda Beach end of line heading to the city, and even then I only get a seat about a third of the time.

    11. Re:answer. by jebus_h_tapdancing · · Score: 1

      Can't get Melbourne Central's WAP from Bourke st, unless it was diverted via LaTrobe one day... but then he would have got mine (which he didn't).

    12. Re:answer. by some_guy_88 · · Score: 1

      Cool, I'll try that out. And if you see a guy playing with a black Dell laptop and a Nexus One on the tram in the morning, say hi.

    13. Re:answer. by dov_0 · · Score: 1

      The 96 is ok out of peak times. Not crowded all the time!

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    14. Re:answer. by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      96 does occasionally go down Latrobe. Usually if there is a demo in Spring street. I must have missed your AP going past.

    15. Re:answer. by fatmatt_oz · · Score: 1

      and mine... There's a few stumbler type apps for windows mobile that log the essid and the gps location to a variety of formats. I've used them to track my cycling at times because the application is easy to use and it outputs the location in kml. One thing I didn't see was any of the melbourne wireless nodes in that list.

    16. Re:answer. by Philip_the_physicist · · Score: 1

      I had just spent some time trying to figure out the route (I'm not from or in Melbourne, which was easy enough to figure out since "Telstra" told me its was in Australia, and it didn't fit Adelaide or Sydney), but I was thrown for a while by the presence of "maryimmaculate", which confused me because there is a Catholic organisation of that name, but all of its Melbourne branches are beyond the tram network. Google map searching on likely looking strings from the list and matching the locations of matches to the tram lines gave me the line.

      I don;t think it is a tram quiz, I think that sort of thing is just nerd-bait in general, giving someone a set of datapoints and waiting for them to try to figure out information from it. (An evil troll would have been to collect data from several routes and randomly mix them together, then sit back and watch the arguments.)

    17. Re:answer. by smaddox · · Score: 1

      Did you type this on a phone with T9? You misspelled 'of' as 'me'...

    18. Re:answer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live on Clauscen st, just off Nicholson and assumed this was the 96 tram. Alas, I did not see my own SSID listed. Protip: it's named after a classic retro arcade game

    19. Re:answer. by chimpo13 · · Score: 1

      Custer's Revenge?
      Beat 'Em & Eat 'Em?

    20. Re:answer. by bscott · · Score: 1

      Just when I think I live in a remote corner of the world, something like this shows up - this guy came within a few hundred meters of picking up my SSID...

      And it's just about exactly one year after the "Craig from Windsor" notes began showing up all around where I work, and went viral online.

      Wonder what'll happen next March?

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    21. Re:answer. by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Get a room, you two!

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  22. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by mark-t · · Score: 1

    It's certainly not illegal anyplace that I've ever heard of.

  23. Doesnt' netstumbler already do this? by scum-o · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Doesnt' netstumbler already do this?

    1. Re:Doesnt' netstumbler already do this? by shish · · Score: 3, Interesting

      or for linux, kismet

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  24. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's certainly not illegal anyplace that I've ever heard of.

    What about Soviet Russia?

  25. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by SCPRedMage · · Score: 1

    Why yes, it is illegal to read data that is being broadcasted unencrypted over the air. So remember, every time Windows tells you what networks are available, you're an immoral, "iimatu", criminal.

    I'm sorry, but what the hell are you smoking that makes you think it's illegal, let alone IMMORAL, to record freely broadcasted data that isn't even COPYRIGHTED?

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  26. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by micksam7 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not only is it legal, but it's been going on for a long while now.

  27. Reno by Edward+Teach · · Score: 1

    When I lived in Reno, there was an access point near my apartment named FBIOPS. Either someone was in trouble or someone has a great sense of humor. Really, who is gonna try to hack that one?

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  28. Site's dead. Anybody got a mirror? by mark-t · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Slashdotted.

  29. and how did this make slashdot? by daveb1 · · Score: 0

    and how did this make slashdot? SERIOUSLY wigle.net + KISMET .... oh common.

  30. Re:should had it set to Linksys, netgear or other by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They you may of seen more hacks.

    I have seen.
    You have seen.
    You may have seen.

    There's no such thing as "may of".

  31. If you know enough to change the name... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1

    Why don't you also check the box to not broadcast the SSID?

    I know it doesn't really buy much security, but still. I have never broadcasted my SSID. If you need to know it, I'll tell you, and add you to the list of allowed MAC addresses (again, I know, not totally secure, but still... another hoop to jump thru.)

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    1. Re:If you know enough to change the name... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't buy much security and makes troubleshooting much harder, so why?

    2. Re:If you know enough to change the name... by compgenius3 · · Score: 1

      Not only are these steps not adding any additional security, they force *you* to jump through more hoops in order to protect this fake security. The added convenience of wifi has been removed, you may as well just use a wire, which will be infinitely more secure. See http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=454

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    3. Re:If you know enough to change the name... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Troubleshooting? What troubleshooting... you know the (non-broadcast) SSID, your MAC is on the approved list, you have the key... your in!

      Works every time.

    4. Re:If you know enough to change the name... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 0

      AC should have said "your're" instead of "your", but as the poster, I agree - I have never had an issue with not broadcasting the SSID.

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    5. Re:If you know enough to change the name... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hiding the SSID decreases your security. When the access point broadcasts the SSID, the clients passively listen for it when they're not in range. When the SSID is hidden, clients broadcast the SSID in search of the wireless LAN wherever they are. This tells attackers about your laptop. There's even a ready-made attack tool for this: the "JaSager" (an implementation of "Karma") will listen for the probe requests and pretend to be your access point. If your WLAN is encrypted, you won't fall into that trap, but anyone who uses MAC address filters and hidden SSID as the only access control mechanisms is instantly MITMd. Even if you can avoid fake access points, your laptop still leaks your SSID and any information that may give (your name? your address? an obscenity?). Don't turn off SSID broadcasts.

    6. Re:If you know enough to change the name... by GigaplexNZ · · Score: 2, Funny

      AC should have said "your're" instead of "your"

      Your're wrong.

    7. Re:If you know enough to change the name... by Locklin · · Score: 1

      Zero increase in security + inconvenience. You don't happen to work at a bank or for the TSA do you?

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    8. Re:If you know enough to change the name... by JustOK · · Score: 3, Funny

      Their both right.

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    9. Re:If you know enough to change the name... by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hilarious. But I just ran out of mod points...

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    10. Re:If you know enough to change the name... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your're is the correct spelling if you arrr an* pirate.

      * omg - recursive grammar pendants!

    11. Re:If you know enough to change the name... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if you set your laptop to autoconnect to the hidden wifi. Of course it is a pain in the ass to connect to the wifi by hand with a laptop. Of course when you connect to your wifi, people can see the SSID if they are scanning for packets. Btw the buses in Los Angeles, CA scan for a wifi access points. Forget the SSID though.

    12. Re:If you know enough to change the name... by speederaser · · Score: 2, Informative

      When the SSID is hidden, clients broadcast the SSID in search of the wireless LAN wherever they are. This tells attackers about your laptop.

      Many people's laptops do this regardless of the setting on the access point. This is the default in XP. You have to make sure the "Connect even if the network is not broadcasting" box is unchecked to turn off client broadcasting. In Vista and I believe W7 this is off by default.

  32. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by adolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Indeed. It's public information, broadcast on some of the most public of the public airwaves -- the 2.4GHz ISM band. Nothing needs decrypted (therefore, various satellite and terrestrial broadcast rules don't apply, nor the DMCA), and nothing needs accessed (therefore, various computer access rules don't apply). Further, an SSID is too short for a meaningful copyright, and trademark law doesn't apply since it's not used in trade. And, of course, recording and publishing these things is simply recording and publishing a list of facts; a practice which has long been protected by various laws and rulings.

  33. Once in Washington DC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I saw a SSID of "Republicans cheat on their wives"

    I died laughing.

    1. Re:Once in Washington DC... by Gangis · · Score: 5, Funny

      I saw one near a Subway restaurant that said "Jared Is Still Fat"

      Also died laughing.

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      "Black holes are where God divided by zero." - Steve Wright
    2. Re:Once in Washington DC... by vandelais · · Score: 1

      I live next to an ice cream store and my Access Point is named: icecreamsampleabuser

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    3. Re:Once in Washington DC... by toadlife · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of our old SSID (far from DC), "NEVER TRUST REPUBLICANS"

      Our current one is, "We can see Russia from our house!"

      We live in one of the most conservative counties in California (Still covered by the voting rights Act of 1965! Woot!), and in nice neighborhood full of old white retirees.

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    4. Re:Once in Washington DC... by bertoelcon · · Score: 1

      I died laughing.

      I thought you acting a little zombie-like AC.

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    5. Re:Once in Washington DC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funniest I ever saw was "100mb of Solitude"

  34. Coding on the tram? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really? Maybe some cron script or similar, but I doubt you can really do profitable work on the tram.

    Perhaps somebody can enlighten me.

    1. Re:Coding on the tram? by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 1

      Well, this book has been written by the author typing on a Nokia phone while daily commuting. So why couldnt't somebody develop code on a cellphone ?!?

    2. Re:Coding on the tram? by GigaplexNZ · · Score: 1

      Because symbols such as (){};.+-=/ are much harder to type on a standard cellphone keypad than alphanumeric characters. It would drive someone insane.

    3. Re:Coding on the tram? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      I find it really productive because the trip lasts 40 minutes and I have to start and finish something in that time. Working on the small screen of the eeepc 701 creates additional challenges. Generally I develop openmoko applications and a days work might involve refactoring an app to use sqlite instead of flat files, or building a new simple app which somebody suggested to me. Its a good way to learn to concentrate on the job at hand.

      If I am tired then I will just clean up compilation warnings, remove trace lines or clean up comments. That kind of thing.

      The only times I haven't used the laptop is when my tegretol is shitting me and I have to keep my eyes on the horizon (or the nearest best substitute) to stay on an even plane.

  35. I do this with bluetooth by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 1

    Whenever I have to wait in a public place, I often audit the bluetooth name space with my cellphone. It is quite interesting to look at the nicknames that sometimes people assign to their cellphones, especially if you can identify the owner. One of the most appropriate nicks I found was "stinky"...

  36. Throbbing Engorged Gay Penis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's my AP. Deal with it.

    1. Re:Throbbing Engorged Gay Penis by name_already_taken · · Score: 1

      We couldn't use that SSID at my house. The neighbors would know exactly whose it was.

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  37. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmm actually, you might be onto something here. Since in recent years, everything you write is given copyright status by default, I suppose those AP names *are* copyrighted. Then copying them without permission would be illegal!

    Oh wait, except the person running the AP is probably the one who came up with the name, and so I guess s/he authorized it to be publicly distributed.

  38. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by deniable · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Better tell SETI. Wouldn't want to piss of the aliens.

  39. Why use cron? by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You're missing out on a lot of SSIDs if you're only scanning once a minute. A simple "while true; do iwlist $options >> script1.txt; done" in a few scripts started a second or two apart will help catch more. Maybe set up a cron job to cat and sort -u them together occasionally.

    1. Re:Why use cron? by vrmlguy · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're missing out on a lot of SSIDs if you're only scanning once a minute. A simple "while true; do iwlist $options >> script1.txt; done" in a few scripts started a second or two apart will help catch more. Maybe set up a cron job to cat and sort -u them together occasionally.

      This is the tram! It doesn't take a different route every day. Just repeat the scan for a few weeks, you'll slowly fill in the gaps.

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    2. Re:Why use cron? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do scripting at all? Use kismet, and get a gps maybe, then visualize using google maps, easy and much more interesting.

  40. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by Xarun · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why would slashdotting your own website be illegal?

  41. best by goosesensor · · Score: 1

    "we can hear you having sex"

  42. Re:should had it set to Linksys, netgear or other by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They you may of seen more hacks.

    I have seen. You have seen. You may have seen.

    There's no such thing as "may of".

    there is may 've though

  43. Oh, the humanity! by vrmlguy · · Score: 1

    Why do people post their own stuff here, knowing that their site will crash and burn within seconds? Both of the links are dead. Both!

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    1. Re:Oh, the humanity! by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why do people post their own stuff here, knowing that their site will crash and burn within seconds? Both of the links are dead. Both!

      Free load testing. Seriously you would pay someone to do that ;)

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  44. Why hide the SSID? - its easily discovered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use AiryFairy. You know when you put a signal out there someone is sure to pick it up :) Hiding it does nothing for someone with the tools to crack your WEP or WPA (I hear someone demonstrated a less computationally intense way to crack WPA recently). Even MAC address filtering barely helps... WPA with RADIUS authentication, now that has to be harder...

  45. Where does he work by number17 · · Score: 1

    By searching for some of those SSID names it might not be difficult to plot a map of where he works and the route taken. If starting in suburbia it might be more difficult to find out where he lives.

    One name is "Bourke Street". Assuming he is taking the tram then it must be route 86, 95 or 96. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourke_Street,_Melbourne#Transportation

    1. Re:Where does he work by sabre86 · · Score: 1

      This guy agrees with you.

      --sabre86

    2. Re:Where does he work by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Yeah I take the 96 between Blythe street and the World Trade Centre in Clarendon street. A few of these APs will be from deeper in Fitzroy (Brunswick st or Smith st) because I go there from time to time. Some are from Sydney rd because the Royal Melbourne hospital was my second home for a while.

    3. Re:Where does he work by number17 · · Score: 1

      It's a cool script and I hope you keep improving it.

      In iwlist.awk you are doing a "strip(mac)". Are you incrementing the count only when a unique AP is found with the same SSID as opposed to incrementing when passing by the same one another time?

    4. Re:Where does he work by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      A count of two for an SSID means that two mac addresses have the same SSID.

  46. War-driving? War-training? by erroneus · · Score: 1

    Anyway, where are the GPS coordinates?

  47. Flashy Girl by Saint+Stephen · · Score: 1

    A neighbor of mine uses Flashy Girl as her SSID. It's actually a variation of that, I don't want to give out the whole thing, that would be creepy :-)

    I used to keep my WEP/WPA off until one day I saw Big Pimpin' as a registered device on my network. After that I got a little less neighborly.

    1. Re:Flashy Girl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to keep my WEP/WPA off until one day I saw Big Pimpin' as a registered device on my network. After that I got a little less neighborly.

      Is that because you don't like black people? Just curious.

    2. Re:Flashy Girl by Saint+Stephen · · Score: 1


      Is that because you don't like black people? Just curious.
      </quote>

      If I have to like crap to like black people, then I don't like black people.

    3. Re:Flashy Girl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, that's the most racist comment I've read in a while.

  48. Re:Melbourne. by IceFoot · · Score: 1

    What? He's in MELBOURNE? His URL (.tl) says he's in EAST TIMOR!

  49. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by tagno25 · · Score: 4, Informative

    you are not talking to it, it is talking to you

  50. It's not what mine is named... by Slack0ff · · Score: 1

    I enjoy changing my neighbors unsecured default passworded ap's ssid to something sure to catch their attention, and encourage them to secure their wireless.

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  51. Don't submit to Slashdot ... by richtaur · · Score: 1

    ... if you're not prepared to be Slashdotted. What did you think was going to happen?

    1. Re:Don't submit to Slashdot ... by agoodm · · Score: 1
  52. CenturyLink by certsoft · · Score: 1

    I use a cradlepoint Wifi router with my Verizon Wireless USB modem. Since VW is about 3-4 times faster than the CenturyLink DSL here, I use a SSID of "CLinkSucks".

  53. Link is not working by anthonyq234 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hello, I hate to tell you this but the link is not working.

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    1. Re:Link is not working by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      Welcome to slashdot. Your sig is cut off, btw.

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    2. Re:Link is not working by agoodm · · Score: 1
    3. Re:Link is not working by agoodm · · Score: 1
  54. Re:should had it set to Linksys, netgear or other by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd write it "They you may 'ave seen..." if I wanted it to be interpreted that way. (typo in first word already present)

  55. Best Secure SSID by AmigaHeretic · · Score: 5, Funny

    I got rid of of passwords, WPA,WPA2,WEP or whatever crap and just changed my SSID to "$5.99 per minute".

    I check the logs and have never seen a single person connect to my router.

    1. Re:Best Secure SSID by Bob9113 · · Score: 2, Funny

      HAHAHA -- awesome. Best social hack I've heard in quite a while. Well played, and thanks for the giggle. :)

    2. Re:Best Secure SSID by Inda · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mine says "£0.99 an hour! First hour free! Unlimited downloads!"

      People are happy giving up their credit card numbers, but probably not happy with the zero service.

      Don't connect to wireless networks you don't own.

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    3. Re:Best Secure SSID by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      Never seen anybody connect, sure, but all your traffic is out there in cleartext.

      A passive monitor will pick it all up without any notice in the router logs.

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  56. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by SCPRedMage · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I think inverted the polarity of your Sarcasm Detector.

    To my knowledge, and IANAL, a NAME does not fall within the realm of copyrightable material. And even if it does, this would have a strong case for Fair Use.

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  57. mine mine mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Currently I'm running A&N and B&G networks named "ENCOM" using WPA2-PSK. As soon as I get me new server up the encryption will be stepped up to WPA2-Enterprise.

    I also have a G only network named "ENCOM/Public" on a DMZ that's for guests and systems not on my domain.

    And finally the "screw with people" network, that I use to try different fun.

    p.s. I've been using "ENCOM" as my LAN name for 15 years, so the new movie isn't the influence.

  58. Malvern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mate of mine lives next door to the Malvern cop shop, one of his neighbors Ap is "pigfucker".. thought that one was nice....

  59. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by BronsCon · · Score: 1

    Law violates you?

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    APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
  60. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Sovi....err, nevermind.

  61. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 1

    Exactly. Otherwise...

    This just in: receiving a ping from a restricted computer is OMGILLEGAL ...

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  62. Re:Tram? Get real... by Cimexus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah because as everyone knows, Australia is in Europe...

  63. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by KingArthur10 · · Score: 3, Informative

    You obviously have no clue how wifi works. The routers are broadcasting their identification codes and names. All your computer has to do is listen. It's the same as if you were just tuning into all the local FM bands and listening to what other people were listening to (as most of those devices are unencrypted). He doesn't have to "ping" the other wifi networks to listen to them. He doesn't hack anything or attempt to decrypt anything; he simply listens to routers shouting out their names. Perfectly legal. If you scan for wifi access points with Windows, you're doing the same thing; the only difference: he wrote the names down and put the names online.

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  64. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by dimeglio · · Score: 1

    You mean I have to specifically allow each and every single packets to connect to my computer? Otherwise they attempt to connect to my network without authorization?
    Can I sue all those who ping my IP without written consent?

    What's more you cannot locate anyone, from the SSID alone, unless they make it obvious. My ssid is dd-wrt good luck.

    OP's statement is absurd. In the USA they have much more obscure interpretation of the laws when it comes to networks.

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  65. Re:Tram? Get real... by GigaplexNZ · · Score: 1

    Melbourne, Australia is not part of Europe. As some other commenters have already noted, the route is most likely the 96 tram. I take the tram all the time (in Melbourne), does that make me a Eurodouche too?

  66. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I've patented the copyrighting of names.

  67. Re:should had it set to Linksys, netgear or other by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

        That's boring though. I was hoping to get more than the casual intruder. Maybe I could learn something from them. :) We don't just put honeypots out there to detect who's doing bad things, do we? I thought it was to learn from their methods and protect against them.

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  68. Mistaken Wi-Fi by pinkj · · Score: 1

    I was trying to get to a share on my room mate's computer using "//192.168.blah.blah" through my wireless. When I accessed his share, I noticed that what I was looking for wasn't there and there were a great number of different people's resumes there for some reason. That's when I realized I had mistakenly logged on the neighbor's completely open wi-fi, it wasn't secured, the computer I was looking up was running Win98 and it's C:\ drive was being completely shared. The saddest part was that my neighbor was a half-way house for ex-cons who were on house arrest and the resumes I was seeing were theirs. I never got the courage to tell the administration about their lack of security as the place spooked me.

  69. Re:Site's dead. Anybody got a mirror? by agoodm · · Score: 1

    www.yescomputersolutions.com/access_points.txt

  70. Re:Site's dead. Anybody got a mirror? by agoodm · · Score: 1
  71. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by AlamedaStone · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's certainly not illegal anyplace that I've ever heard of.

    What about Soviet Russia?

    ... points access you?

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  72. Australia? by RevWaldo · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm surprised all the SSIDs aren't "Bruce".

    1. Re:Australia? by Cimexus · · Score: 1

      As an Australian I have to ask ... where did this meme come from? You hear it from Americans online quite a bit ... but I don't get it. Bruce isn't even a particularly common name here ... I certainly don't know anyone by that name.

      I'm guessing some movie/TV show that I haven't seen?

    2. Re:Australia? by auLucifer · · Score: 1

      Well you may have a point. You have to love a country that calls one of it's main national highways "Bruce"

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    3. Re:Australia? by Jimbookis · · Score: 3, Informative

      Seriously, you read /. and you don't know your Monty Python?

    4. Re:Australia? by Jimbookis · · Score: 1

      There's even a suburb in Canberra called Bruce!

    5. Re:Australia? by vandelais · · Score: 1

      I think it's from the BBC show comedy Coupling episode 15 entitled "The End of the Line"
      http://epguides.com/Coupling/guide.shtml

      "Steve has stupidly swapped phone numbers with a girl he chatted to in a bar, and fearing that she may actually call him, takes to answering the phone in an Australian accent, as "Bruce's Bar and Grill". Meanwhile, Susan, in order to get out of an awkward situation being chatted up by an Australian in another bar, phones home using a French accent."

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    6. Re:Australia? by Cimexus · · Score: 1

      It's Monty Python? Wow wouldn't have guessed. I have seen a reasonable amount of Python but I guess not that one. That explains it though, thx.

    7. Re:Australia? by aedan · · Score: 1

      Monty Python,

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruces_sketch

      And Pixar called one of their Australian sharks Bruce in "Finding Nemo".

  73. Here is a mirror, the site is slashdotted and down by agoodm · · Score: 2, Informative
  74. Mine isn't on your route... by bennomatic · · Score: 1

    But the network, and main hub are called Tweedle Dee. The slave hub (repeater, where the printer hooks up) is called Tweedle Dum.

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  75. SIX of them called [print server 2FD09E] ?? by rpresser · · Score: 1

    Very strange for all six of them ... does it maybe mean it took him six minutes to pass through the service area of one of them?

    1. Re:SIX of them called [print server 2FD09E] ?? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Yeah thats six with the same name but different mac address:

      smithm@eeepc:~$ cat /media/sdcard/stuff/APLIST | grep 2FD09E
      "print server 2FD09E" 02:43:BD:B0:0E:BE
      "print server 2FD09E" 02:44:23:BB:0E:BD
      "print server 2FD09E" 02:A7:89:14:0E:5A
      "print server 2FD09E" 02:F4:86:8C:0E:0D
      "print server 2FD09E" D6:E6:5E:65:CC:A4
      "print server 2FD09E" EE:9C:D9:C9:63:67

      But that could happen if they kept changing the mac address. My script appends to a file. It doesn't delete old entries. Logging the repository which contains the final list suggests these mac addressed have been collected over time. Maybe they kept changing hardware.

    2. Re:SIX of them called [print server 2FD09E] ?? by radish · · Score: 1

      What's really weird is that none of those MACs show up in the MAC vendor database. I've never seen that before (not that I have worked with a great variety of hardware).

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  76. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Not that the DMCA means a whole lot in Australia anyway...

  77. Quiet Street by Jeffrey_Walsh+VA · · Score: 5, Funny

    I leave an AP open using my street number as SSID. Its outside my firewall and bandwidth is throttled to 15% of my 15/25 Fios. I check the logs sometimes. Its usually someone who came out on a service call, probably logging the job and gettting directions to the next gig. I saw repeated connections once so I blocked the mac address. Shortly after, my close freinds next door noted to me that thier wireless stopped working. I went over and set up their Fios router for wireless.

  78. My SSID's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use "bukkake" and "gokkun" in my crowded, urban neighborhood. Might as well teach the neighbor's kids early!

  79. Re:Melbourne. by evilviper · · Score: 1

    What? He's in MELBOURNE? His URL (.tl) says he's in EAST TIMOR!

    His ISP is SPININTERNET in Sydney...

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  80. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by SilverJets · · Score: 2, Informative

    Except picking up the SSID that is being openly broadcast is not even remotely similar to pinging that same router.

  81. Re:War-driving? War-training? by compwiz3688 · · Score: 1

    I'd rather call it war-commuting.

  82. My Favourite. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The store's parking lot had security cameras all around on the top of light posts. Signs were up about it being "closed circuit security cameras watching" except the security cameras were all meshed using 802.11b, no encryption, but hidden ssid which happened to be the store's name; ironically the ssid was broadcasted still every say 5 minutes to maintain the mesh I assume.

  83. Are you concerned about your privacy? by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 1

    I came to the conclusion that you live in Melbourne, Australia, and that was before I found "melbournefineart". Since several people list their address, it would be fairly easy to associate a few of these with physical locations, and map your tram route. With one end near a residential area and the other in a business area, we can probably determine which is which.

    It's fascinating information, though. Purplemonkeydishwasher is represented (multiple times). "stasi" too, that's good. "slowpieceofcrap" is informative, I wonder if netcraft could confirm that one? "pootwoog" is proof this is from Australia - no one else invents words like Aussies do. Oh yes, and it's good to have finally found the "other side of the rabbit hole". A little acting humor in "mycoitpiece"?

    "Paul's Face Is A Network" "Paul Gleeson's iMac" "Paul Beardsell's iMac" "Scott Crighton's iMac" - this suggests that the iMac automatically names your network somehow. Does this reveal a previously unknown data leak? I can't be arsed to research iMac enough to tell.

    I think the data should be grouped case-insensitively - maybe make the most common case the representative one? HOME Home and home would be equivalent - but I suppose we can do that as an exercise to the reader. It would cut down on the number of distinct names.

    1. Re:Are you concerned about your privacy? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      No I'm not concerned about my privacy. But I did wonder about those iMac AP names, and if the owners know they are broadcasting.

      The number against Purplemonkeydishwasher is the number of mac addresses with that name. I have the mac addresses in a file but I have not made that file public.

      And yeah I could tweak my sort parameters to organize things differently.

    2. Re:Are you concerned about your privacy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good thing you weren't arsed into researching 'iMac', since the hardware isn't naming it that, it's the operating system.
      By default OS X names your computer "Your Name's iMac/Mac mini/etc."

    3. Re:Are you concerned about your privacy? by Pikoro · · Score: 1

      SSIDs are case sensitive. Hence, HOME, Home, and home would all be separate, valid SSIDs.

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  84. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by __aasqbs9791 · · Score: 1

    OP's statement is absurd. In the USA they have much more obscure interpretation of the laws when it comes to networks.

    No, we just have some of the best idiots. Or the worst, take your pick.

  85. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by gruber_aekdb · · Score: 0

    You are slightly mistaken. In keeping with leromarinvit's example, it is perfectly alright (though possibly a little creepy/suspicious) for you to walk down the street, and each time you come to a house, walk up to it & jot down the publicly displayed information. For example, if I'm not mistaken, most areas in the US require/encourage you to have the number portion of your address clearly displayed in some noticeable form on/near your house (for 911 services & the like), or its also often customary to put your name/address on your mailbox, or by your door bell (especially for apartment buildings you've to be buzzed into).

    Copying this information is the real world equivalent to going down the bus/train/etc line, and logging all of the SSIDs the computer can detect.

    Where it starts to become illegal is when, rather than just noting the SSID, you attempt to join the network. If, instead of just jotting down whatever information I'm collecting, I twist the door nob, then I start to get into hot water (as it were). Hopefully, when I twist the door nob, I find the door locked. If I then get my lock picking tools out & "correct" that "problem", or find other means into the house (ie through an unlocked window), then yes, I have broken the law. In the real wold version, its breaking & entering. In the network version, it would be unauthorized access to a computer or networked device (or whatever the legal term is).

    There is a little gray area, at least last I checked, if the network is not encrypted (ie when I twist the door nob, the door opens). Of course 2 likely reasons for this would be A.) your nice & have decided to share with whoever is near, or B.) you don't know any better. If B, you probably wouldn't even know someone was on your network (unless of course they started to hog your resources), so you wouldn't know to press charges, and if A, you wouldn't press charges because you were nice. Of course, just because charges are not pressed doesn't mean a crime wasn't committed...

    Or, you could look at it this way... If it were illegal to query the SSID of a network you did not have access rights to, then A LOT of people are in big trouble pretty much every day! Do you have a smart phone that has wifi capabilities? When I ran into the local grocery store and I pulled my phone out to check the weather, as soon as I launched the weather app, it prompted me if I wanted to join the StrAwB3rrie5 network. When I ran into Walmart & was checking out something in their electronics department I again got my phone out to check google to make sure what I was going to buy was compatible with what I wanted to use it for. I was asked if I wanted to join either of the two Walmart networks (Walmart's names are not as cute (0x0583723753743 or something to that effect)). On the ride home, while looking up something for the driver, I was prompted at least 3 different times to join a network. That means I violated federal law 5 different times - all during a quick trip in town for some errands. Had I been out longer, I could have possibly picked up a few more counts. Thats just 1 person... I'm sure there are a lot more people out there just as guilty as me... If such an act as illegal, would Google, Apple, et al make it a default on their phones?

  86. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by tapanitarvainen · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's public information [...] And, of course, recording and publishing these things is simply recording and publishing a list of facts; a practice which has long been protected by various laws and rulings.

    Not everywhere. In many European jurisdictions at least it is not at all obvious that publishing a list made of publicly available information is legal. In particular, if it is considered "personal information" about people, creating a new compilation of it falls under various personal data protection laws - even if every individual piece of information in there is publicly available somewhere.

    I don't know of any place that'd considered AP SIDs to be personal information in that sense, though - but it wouldn't surprise me either.

  87. My SSIDs are dull as can be by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

    My current SSID is 2. Just the number. It really should be 4 at this point because I am now on my fourth different wireless router. Yes, that's all it is. Gotta call it something.

    Unlike all of my neighbors with their names or whatever as SSID, using just a single digit number is completely obtuse. Nobody is going to figure out what it means, and even if they did, they'd probably wish they hadn't bothered to figure it out.

    Fun trivia: When my friends need wifi setup, I usually buy the gear and set it up at my home to test it all out. So I did that for one friend who wanted to use the SSID of Racoondog, so I set that up on a test box. Briefly. And took it down, packed it up and off it went where it happily works to this day.

    But somebody in my neighborhood saw that brief open SSID and cloned it and there is now another network called "Racoondog" very near by. Why they would bother to do this, I dunno. But they did. Maybe to see if anyone would connect to it? Not that my neighbors seem capable of anything remotely sophisticated.

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    1. Re:My SSIDs are dull as can be by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

      "figure out what it means"? Why do you want to avoid people doing that? What do you actually think you're protecting?

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    2. Re:My SSIDs are dull as can be by Aphoxema · · Score: 1

      [...] Not that my neighbors seem capable of anything remotely sophisticated.

      Best to assume that you can never know what to expect from those around you.

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      "Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?"
    3. Re:My SSIDs are dull as can be by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

      "figure out what it means"? Why do you want to avoid people doing that? What do you actually think you're protecting?

      Where did I ever mention protection?

      No SSID name, open or 'hidden' is protection FROM or security FOR anything.

       

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  88. Map it? by Beer_Smurf · · Score: 1

    I wonder if we could use this list of access points to find and map his drive?

  89. People are strange by eyepeepackets · · Score: 1

    There is a wireless router in my neighborhood named "Snookums" which makes me afraid to know what they named their cat.

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  90. Glad my SSID didn't show up by gsperling · · Score: 1

    ...you might have thought you've got a bad connection.

    My SSID is: Limited or no connectivity
    and my WPA2 Passphrase is: 4C696D69746564206F72206E6F20636F6E6E6563746976697479

  91. Re:Tram? Get real... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well ya,
    its right between italy, germany, and hungary.

  92. My SSID is "ThereIsNoGod_PWDisthenumbers" by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

    Only Atheists who enjoy LOST can steal my Internet ;)

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  93. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 1

    And how does this judge get his email without pinging/accessing any routers that he hasn't specifically gotten permission to access? Does he use a specific vpn hardcoded to run over a small number of routers to which he has requested and gotten permission (written in triplicate of course) to access? Or does he just break his own ruling everytime he gets a spam message?

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  94. ssid map by shird · · Score: 1

    http://wigle.net/gps/gps/Map/onlinemap2/

    Combine it with a GPS and join the thousands of people already doing this and contribute to this site.

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    1. Re:ssid map by Ambient+Sheep · · Score: 1

      Wow! I live in a pretty quiet backwater of the UK these days, but was amazed to see that someone has wardrived along the road past our group of houses and picked up several of my neighbours' access points, mainly those with "BTHomeHub2"s.

      Luckily I've got an old Mark 1 so wasn't picked up from the main road! Time to upgrade my encryption though, if everything in the house will cope with it -- and I'm not sure it will, which is why I haven't bothered until now, that and thinking that no wardriver would live within miles of me and wouldn't want to steal my meagre rural bandwidth anyway! Time to think again...

  95. HG repos disabled for the time being by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

    Python was taking all the CPU on my server. Check back tonight if you want the code. I will re-enable it later.

  96. Re:Melbourne. by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Informative

    Getting the use of their TLD must have been part of the deal for the army going in to rescue them from Indonesia. Along with the oil of course.

    The .tl domain names are cheap and convenient for me.

  97. So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by MoxFulder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I see these "Free Public WiFi" ESSIDs all over the place in public areas, such as airports. They never work. They're usually ad-hoc networks.

    I assumed for a while that they're symptoms/carriers of some kind of malware, but didn't really worry about it since I don't use Windows.

    I just read this article which has a slightly crazy but just-maybe-plausible theory to explain them. They think that it's a weird, propagating out-of-control Windows XP feature, which makes every network to which an XP computer connects propagate its name as an ad-hoc network. And then when somebody else tries to connect because of the enticing name, they keep the ESSID alive for another minute since it's an ad-hoc network, and this continues ad infinitum. So the whole thing is nothing but a long-lasting "echo" of a forgotten network that keeps alive in heavily trafficked public areas. The whole idea seems nuts. Dumber than dumb. Dumber than Microsoft even.

    But I haven't heard of any better explanation for the "Free Public Wifi" phenomenon. Anyone else???

    1. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by impaledsunset · · Score: 1

      I don't know if it happens when somebody tries to connect to a normal network, but it sure does happen when somebody tries to connect to an ad-hoc network. I had been accused of planting eavesdropping devices at her home, after my ad-hoc network remained at her house after my visit to her, just like as described. So the theory might not explain how did that network appear in the first place, but it explains how it replicates and stays alive. It is a sound theory.

    2. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by bemymonkey · · Score: 4, Informative

      How about evil people sitting at airports with laptops, setting up ad-hoc networks and trying to steal credit card numbers from unsuspecting travellers? Wasn't that actually on Slashdot a few months back?

      Rule of thumb: Don't log onto ad hoc networks unless you know who's running them...

    3. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People who use XP, turn on the "Free Public WiFi" which is actually ad hoc networking, thinking it is a normal network as it appears as an available wireless network, they forget to turn it off or don't know how to to. So XP will then advertise it when it is not connected to an other Network. Yes, someone at Microsoft should have been fired for calling it that and then adding to the list of available networks. To really confuse people I think it is only added with XP SP2 which means it suddenly appears as just like new SSID on the list. Many people I know actually tried to connect to this "network" when SP2 came out. I was even fooled until I read the small text under it. It should have been called "start a wireless network" or something more accurate then "Free Public WiFi"

    4. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by Zephyr14z · · Score: 1

      I always just figured it was probably a phishing scam, or some other nefarious scheme. Maybe i'm just paranoid though...

    5. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by Techman83 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't think it was malicious and can confirm this was a significant issue at my work place. There was a hotfix that prevented it from happening and it was definitely addressed in SP3. Microsoft Windows Silent Adhoc Network Advertisement

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    6. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by Securityemo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but *that many*? Dress up like an admin/security guy, try walking around with kismet (audible ping feature turned on) while glancing suspiciously at everyone with a laptop, and see which ones start to sweat? More likely, it's a botnet attack, if it's not the bug described above.

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    7. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by selven · · Score: 1

      Or just use SSL for everything private.

    8. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by fastest+fascist · · Score: 1

      Possible, but since the networks don't usually let you access any websites, I don't see how they'd get anyone to type their credit card numbers in.

    9. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same stupid thing happens here using Vista!
      Old SSIDs gets used as an ad-hoc for no reason, just makes me more mad when the original network disappears :(

    10. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by bemymonkey · · Score: 1

      Well, let's say the network isn't called free public wifi, but something that implies you would be charged for access... set up a simple web page that pops up asking for credit card details to pay for access to the wifi... it's actually a known scam that was reported on a few months ago...

    11. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by phoenix321 · · Score: 1

      Don't log onto ANY network unless you know who's running them AND trust them.

      And use a trusted VPN setup anyway.

    12. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by PNutts · · Score: 1

      I assumed for a while that they're symptoms/carriers of some kind of malware, but didn't really worry about it since I don't use Windows.

      Bravo, Slashot, for again working a Windows slam into an unrelated topic. The guy who constantly mentions that he doesn't own a TV is proud: http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-tel,429/

    13. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surely "don't log on to *any* networks unless you know who's running them" ?

    14. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or run OpenVPN on your home server. I always tunnel back home... it helps that I have 20/20 service.

    15. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by machine321 · · Score: 1

      Good advice, since it's impossible to set up a wireless network in infrastructure mode without expensive equipment.

    16. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by Macrat · · Score: 1

      I used to see that behavior at O'Reilly conferences all the time.

    17. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IIRC they're trojans set up by some virus. Connect and you get infected.

    18. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This explanation is correct, and the same is true of the 'hpsetup' SSID. (Which I'm guessing may also originate from wireless printers, but it has been known to propagate via XP's adhoc networks feature).

      However, I think the issue was fixed in Service Pack 3, so only unpatched PCs should be doing this now.

    19. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer my thumb over yours.

      Never log onto an ad hoc network unless you are running it yourself.

    20. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by EkriirkE · · Score: 1

      I've always wondered if I started this... I created an adhoc by that name exactly in 2003 on a whim to see who'd try to use it. I flew from SFO, ATL, MCO, OAK, HON while broadcasting it (also had it broadcasting while at the hotels incl Disney world resorts when I paid for the night's internet) and have slowly been seeing it randomly since.

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      to 45 2F 6E 40 3C DF 10 71 4E 41 DF AA 25 7D 31 3F
    21. Re:So... WTF is "Free Public WiFi" really doing? by fastest+fascist · · Score: 1

      Sure, but that's not what was being discussed here.

  98. Re:Tram? Get real... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

    How do you get around, by dog sled? I have to admit thats pretty macho. Dense urban areas need good, clean, convenient public transport so that people can go about their business without clagging the roads up with cars, taxis and buses. Think of trams as horizontal elevators for business districts.

    Compare the Melbourne CBD with Sydney. The noise in Sydney turns me away.

  99. Re:War-driving? War-training? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

    GPS won't work inside a tram unless you hold it up to the window but you could approximate it from the time. Knowing the route you could model the speed of the tram at different points. The script updates an hg repo with changes to the list of AP names so the time would give you the location with pretty good accuracy. The first commit would be close to the first stop where I power the laptop up.

  100. Use a random SSID by igb · · Score: 1

    As others have pointed out, the SSID is part of the hashing of the passphrase that goes to make up a WPA2 key. I therefore generate the SSID and the passphrase with a reasonably strong random number generator (openssl), leaving a reasonable period between the two steps to reduce the chance of any correlation. That way, it is highly unlikely that a set of pre-computed tables will be of use, forcing any attacker to attempt a brute-force search from cold. Given that the key is also a randomly-chosen string, the only way that my network is weaker than brute-force is if there's a practical attack that is better than brute force, and in that scenario key selection is unlikely to help me.

    1. Re:Use a random SSID by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      That's interesting. You've come up with a purpose that actually increases your security.

      And here I was just thinking of setting up a fake device that isn't a real access point and just advertises SSIDs out of a generator of a randomized list of =< 32-character strings. Or that sequential queries would produce Burma Shave-poetry. Or the cell phone numbers of random drug dealers/telemarketers.

      If such a device could be made cheap enough and low enough power, it would open up a new area of virtual graffiti, as well as be useful for geocachers as a way to add hidden additional clues restricted by region.

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      Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
  101. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by colonelquesadilla · · Score: 1

    My ssid is dd-wrt good luck.

    FOUND YOU! What are the odds that my neighbor posts on slashdot... ermm.. it's not me using your bandwidth... I swear.

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    It's either false dichotomies, or the terrorists win, you decide.
  102. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by colonelquesadilla · · Score: 1

    SSID broadcast you?

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    It's either false dichotomies, or the terrorists win, you decide.
  103. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by colonelquesadilla · · Score: 1

    Oh and SSID stands for soviet socialist ID

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    It's either false dichotomies, or the terrorists win, you decide.
  104. Use (Don't Abuse) by slack_prad · · Score: 1

    Unsecured .. free for all. Abusers get mac blocked for a few days.

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    Sent from my desktop computer
  105. Free for all by slack_prad · · Score: 1

    I once moved to a new apartment and the internet provider said it would take a few days for mine to be set up. I was happy to find an unsecured AP for use for the next few days.

    Since then I've always had my wifi open and free for use. There are very few abusers. If there are ... you can always block them using their mac address. Most of the office going crowd's internet goes unused during daytime 9-5ish. I see no point in securing it unless you really have the need.

    PLEASE unsecure your wifi. It helps people around you. Thanks!

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    Sent from my desktop computer
  106. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by hoboroadie · · Score: 1

    Chris Isaak had to quit calling his band Silvertone when he got a deal with Warner Brothers, Sears would NOT cut a deal for the use of the name. He can use that name for an album or a song though, and I think he's kind of using the name "unofficially" for his band now. As for me, it ain't been Silvertone since they did the Pete Best thing to Johnnie Silvers.

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  107. smell by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    I once had mine set to "Stop Sniffing My Wifi" and later to "Secret CIA Node #301"

    I considered "Sex Offender Network" just to see if it got a reaction, but thought better of it.

  108. Re:should had it set to Linksys, netgear or other by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    May of '09? Damn fine month!

  109. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by SCPRedMage · · Score: 1
    http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html

    Can I copyright the name of my band?
    No. Names are not protected by copyright law. Some names may be protected under trademark law. Contact the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office, 800-786-9199, for further information.

    Names cannot be protected under copyright law, but they can be protected under trademark law, which to my knowledge doesn't make it illegal to list trademarked names.

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    My sig can beat up your sig.
  110. Free Candy by bedouin · · Score: 1

    I have a dedicated, unsecured AP called "Free Candy" that only randomly serves goatse, lemonparty, 1guy1cup, and bluewaffle.

  111. Supid and Boring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok, so you have a list of SSID's. Who freakin cares. Thanks for putting your resume, with your name, address and phone number, in the same directory though. I suppose I don't need to post my disappointment here, because I can just call you on your home phone number. Or swing by and dump a turd on your front step.

    I sure hope your broken arm heals ok. It looks nasty from the X-Ray you have sitting next to your resume.

  112. Interesting list... by Unka+Willbur · · Score: 1

    But I'll stick with "Hot Midget Sex"

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    "Remember when I said I would never lie? Well, that was the first time."
  113. Mine is my address by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    Mine is secured with WPA, broadcasts SSID, and lists my address. (not the full address, for brevity, but certainly enough for anyone on the street to contact me).

    Now, what information is actually being exposed here that I wouldn't want out there?

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    -- 'The' Lord and Master Bitman On High, Master Of All
    1. Re:Mine is my address by Aphoxema · · Score: 1

      Mine is secured with WPA, broadcasts SSID, and lists my address. (not the full address, for brevity, but certainly enough for anyone on the street to contact me).

      Now, what information is actually being exposed here that I wouldn't want out there?

      Or that couldn't be traced anyways with greater accuracy.

      --
      "Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?"
  114. Poor misguided fools by monoi · · Score: 1

    001 [We love sexy men]

    Now, I may just be speaking for myself here, but it seems to me that your WiFi SSID is probably not the best place to go advertising for sexy men. Men with poor complexion, men with occasional lapses in personal hygiene, men with crazy caffeine habits, yes. Sexy men, not so much...

  115. Mine is named... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YourDogBarksTooMuchAndNeedsAWalk

  116. Re:Tram? Get real... by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

    Yeah because as everyone knows, Australia is in Europe...

    It is. It's a small country whose capital is Vienna.

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    I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
  117. What time of day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm surprised you have enough space to open a laptop. Also, aren't you concerned about thieving lebbo's?

  118. Top few from the list, along with my favorites :) by davidwr · · Score: 1

    This was Slashdotted yesterday, here's the top names on the list in case it goes down again:

    359 []
    070 [Free Public WiFi]
    069 [hpsetup]
    068 [NETGEAR]
    047 [DLINK]
    043 [eduroam]
    043 [TDPJ]
    040 [Telstra CBD]
    029 [linksys]
    026 [wireless]
    026 [RMIT-WPA]
    024 [Azure]
    024 [ANZWLAN]
    020 [myLGNet]
    020 [guestnet]
    020 [OL-FAPWIFINET-SSID]
    018 [RMIT]
    014 [default]

    Some of the more, er, interesting names:

    001 [youcannotlogontothis] - O RLY?
    001 [private^*W@^*W^*@^*(**S^*] - not any more
    001 [god] - obviously an imposter, everyone knows God starts with a capital letter!
    001 [fuckyou] - what did I ever do to you???
    001 [The Surgery Creative Operations] - The SCO Network
    001 [Purplemonkeydishwasher] - I hope the purple monkey's getting union wages
    001 [Jizle Bedizle Mynizle Fashizle] - waiting for translation... waiting... translation error, language not found in database
    001 [JimbobNET] - Kepten, there be Wales here!
    001 [Internet Death Virus] - ooh, I'm so scared!
    001 [Iiæ#ÐÚij~L~Q%HS:"û1(TM)2WDî¼éå] - say that three times fast
    001 [Gay sex for me ;-)] - Um, that's not what the antenna is for....
    001 [GOATNET] - Ah, so that's where goatse is hiding out today
    001 [FuckYeah!!!] - Practice safe hex
    001 [Freebi Welcome Stranger] - ITSATRAP!
    001 [FYdhbDeSZtaXOY9D8GEmws9vP3] - I hope that's not also the guy's password
    001 [Clinton Sax Solo] - no thanks, I'll pass
    001 [@@ HEYHEY] - Fat Albert??
    001 [.: P h U k E t :.] - Are we in Thailand or are you just happy to see me?

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    Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
  119. Naming them after batlestars by andoman2000 · · Score: 1

    currently I've been naming networks after battlestars so far I have Galactica, Pegasus, and Acropolis with more to come.....

  120. Don't even have to move... by skids · · Score: 1

    I run an enterprise WiFi system on a sprawling urban campus.

    We have about that many "rogue" SSIDs just sitting in one place. We can't fire up a sniffer any where but in the middle of the campus without getting a full screen and a "machine gun" of audible "found something" dings.

  121. Report roll-up by PNutts · · Score: 1

    "maryimmaculate" and "Virgin Broadband" can be combined and counted as 12.

  122. other uses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you know this post has me wondering...
    is there a way to use the protocol used to broadcast the SSID (and for a computer to receive it) to send out other arbitrary data?
    what if you had a setup where you could broadcast out a stream of udp packets, perhaps a streaming audio file or video file?
    I don't know if this would let you do anything you can't already do but i found it interesting anyway.

  123. Please Wait... and Searching... by Strider- · · Score: 1

    Not in this list, but probably the best SSIDs I've seen.

    Given that all my devices are named after sailing vessels that explored the West Coast of North America during the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries, my own SSID is "Pacific".

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    ...si hoc legere nimium eruditionis habes...
  124. lol by ProfessorKaos64 · · Score: 1

    I love the "Warning, you are affected" one...real educated there

  125. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PLZ stop feeding the trolls. K thx bai.

  126. BT HomeHub by dandart · · Score: 1

    The BT HomeHub mark 1 in the UK uses a sha1 (I think) algorithm for calculating its SSID and key.
    You take the hash of the serial number and use the portions like this:

    SSIDXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX10DIGITKEY
    (though it might be the other way around)
    or similar.
    SSID is the suffix (e.g. 716F in BTHomeHub-716F)
    10DIGITKEY is the WEP key (e.g. 581fdc1977).
    This insecurity allows you to look up possible keys for the SSID match in some tables and cut your guessing down to a mere 70 or so guesses for the key.
    That is why it's a REALLY good idea to change your SSID and encryption key.

  127. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by Machtyn · · Score: 1

    I obviously have a clue. Judges obviously have no clue.

  128. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by KingArthur10 · · Score: 1

    Please cite a court ruling dealing with nothing more than scanning and logging SSIDs. All of the decisions to my knowledge deal with people accessing a unsecured wireless networks, not simply recording the SSIDs. I would be happy (and saddened) for you to prove me wrong if you have evidence that judges have ruled logging the SSIDs of wireless routers to be a criminal offense equal to accessing a computer network without authorization.

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  129. Interesting. by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 1

    I was surprised to see so few 'Netgear' SSIDs, around here that's 90% of the SSIDs I see, apparently a lot of that is due to Comcast's default config for users who opt for a wifi router. I see a lot of ISP names in that SSID list. I wonder why ISPs see a need to brand users' Wireless APs...free advertising?

    As for pop culture references, my SSID (Used almost exclusively for my PSP, but available for visiting devices, like my sister's laptop and PSP.) is NERVHQ. And all my machines are named after the EVA units. (ZEROGOKI, SHOGOKI, NIGOKI, etc.) :P

    I recently had to change network topology— again, the first time was when I moved in, and found out that my new cable modem didn't provide internet sharing like my DSL modem did. —and it forced me to get a Wifi AP router instead of using the AP-capable wireless card on my PC. I had a nice little Netgear router someone gave me when I ran into problems with my cable modem, and I was able to find an identical router (With wifi AP) for less than $40. Which was less than I spent on my new network switch. (Finally moved up to gigabit) It's really a nice little router, good web interface, too. Seems like a fairly smart little box.

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    Friend: "The NIC is misconfigured..." Me: "No prob, I'll just telnet in and fix it." *Silence*
  130. I love silly SSIDS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My friend's apartment building has a battle going in their SSIDs. One neighbor made his network "You Suck", so another neighbor countered with "No You Suck" and finally my friend changed hers to read "Shut It You All Suck." ha ha ha ha.

  131. Now for the real work! by gone_bush · · Score: 1

    Using the list of SSID's calculate which tram route the OP uses.

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    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less travelled by. (Robert Frost, 1916)
  132. And I thought I had a weird sense oh humor by FragHARD · · Score: 1


    Hows this for humor ??? [Jizle Bedizle Mynizle Fashizle]

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    FragHARD or don't frag at all
  133. No cat references ?? by garaged · · Score: 1

    I am really dissapointed

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    I'm positive, don't belive me look at my karma
  134. Your in Melbourne!! by Anthelme · · Score: 1

    your in Melbourne!!1 haha i think i found one in your list from one of the sites i support, im going to look for [OriginSAP] to see where this lives :> (should be near Melbourne Central)

  135. Personal info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone else notice this guy has a copy of his resume on his site as well with all the world to now see including full name birth day places of employment ect... me thinks ignorance is bliss.

  136. I have sereval SSIDs I use by AMDuser · · Score: 1

    I ones I use Black Mesa Vault Tec NetZero_Dialup_WIFI:(

  137. Re:should had it set to Linksys, netgear or other by jimthehorsegod · · Score: 1

    Well you may of course be right about that

  138. pretty pink panties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    one of my neighbors has "pretty pink panties" as his name. I hope I never find out who it is.

  139. Quaker Goats... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I logged into one of those once...

    I decided to conclude my frollick of Rumspringa, and embrace my father and mother from my shameful ways encountering these temptations of the Englisch.

  140. My solution is better. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have two embedded computers, one scanning all the available MAC ID's and then they would leach the computer's hostname from their MAC-specific packets. Then it creates a Broadcast IP for a network named after that computer's Hostname, then the other embedded computer will bounce that host off the network it was originally connected onto. When they connect to SSID of their hostname, they get internet access for a little while but then re-routes to 4chan /b/ where for some reason they post pictures of CP.

    Then with a USB camera on a servo in the air, the embedded computers triangulates the position of whoever is logging onto my network and take a picture with a camera. The local PD is then eMail'd anonymous pictures and trafick details of the websites visited.

    Works every time.

    SSID: WORKGROUP

  141. Re:What you are doing is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and IIM by janerules · · Score: 1

    Isn't there anything below Troll??? Like Swamp water and urine troll is standing in?

  142. WardriveSQL by weaknetlabs.com · · Score: 1

    I already made this. http://wardrivesql.info/ with a 3g connection you can upload the results to a public server or provate server with logins so people can watch you wardrive in real time. :) I am coding a newer version that uses sqlite instead of mysql to save space on my live cd.