Apple is looking at a more advanced use model than what programmers are used to.
Yeah, structured data passed between applications is SO advanced and innovative, my feeble programmer mind can't handle using anything but the filesystem. If apple had implemented a good system and given it to developers to use, we would see it used to create a way to share files between apps that works better than the filesystem. If that system existed, people would be happy to use it instead of the filesystem. It doesn't so instead they as for the bare minimum that they're used to, but they don't even get that.
Do you also want to decide for yourself what software runs on the computer in your car? How about the computer in your toaster? Can't something have a computer in it without needing to be customizable?
I would. I know a handful of people that do performance tuning on snowmobiles. The things that could once be adjusted mechanically are now done in software. Not only can they not change the software themselves, where they once had the flexibility the entire manual adjustment range, the dealer can only change the settings to preset combination A, B or C.
I've felt for a while this is how deletions should be handled. A stub that says that it was deleted, a link to the deletion discussion, a caution that its probably a bad article, a link to an archived version of the article and a link that brings the article back.
All the other articles have their histories available to non-admins, even historical versions of deleted articles should exist for the masses.
Wikipedia needs more internal bickering, not snide remarks on the outside.
It should be aware of and listen to the snide remarks and then go be introspective about it. The snide remarks are coming from people who don't have the time on their hands to deal with all the luggage that comes with being a even somewhat-involved editor.
Really Wikipedia needs to establish once and for all who its target audience it. The masses or the just the assholes who want to play admin and then proceed to listen to desires of its target audience.
But its easier to point the passerby at the established guidelines weather they are right or wrong, so that's what will happen. In the end that passerby doesn't care enough to even question them anymore and stops (or doesn't start) editing.
While I agree in principle, the analogy here is off. If the car doesn't start in this case, I can just throw it away and clone a working one.
Yeah, that's the trouble with the analogy, but yours is off too. You can clone an older version of that car, but cloning a working one all depends on your definition of "working".
Lets say your car doesn't start and you don't know why. Its actually just out of gas, but you restore from a backup image of the car from when it was running on fumes. Now maybe that old image is good enough to get you were you were going, but its still risky to reset and forget. (Gas being an expendable resource this isn't a very good analogy, but you get the point.)
If you actually want a table of data, then use the table tag
What about when I just want a grid layout? Now that we're forcing html to be "applications", where the hell is the grid container that has been in every other sensible graphics library for ages? Hack it together with css because its bad practice to use a table for that?
What's wrong with a private channel on a public network? (Or several for redundancy)
When I was an IRCop, whenever I found a c&c channel I would put a bot in there to gline anyone who entered. About once a month or so we'd go on hunting trips to find bots reporting to our network. Rather than build the redundancy of multiple networks into the malware, they'd rather use a system they can still fly under the radar on.
What's wrong with a list of IP addresses?
DHCP. You can't expect to find a box that can't be traced back to you and rely on it keeping the same IP address.
A list of IPs or IRC networks are finite resources. The chances of loosing control of your bots by relying on these is higher than if you rely on something like twitter.
We do give priority to VoIP traffic. All I have to do is write a "codec" that tunnels binary data over SIP. Now you're in contention with my "phone call".
During the Iraq war log leak someone at wikileaks, probably Assange, was interviewed on NPR where he said that just publishing something once they got it didn't garner the media attention on the documents that they wanted. It was only because of the fact they pussyfoot around with the media that they're interested in the information.
When their goal is to get people to see the information they're publishing rather than just let it sit somewhere on a web server, it may be worth it for them to play the games they do. Yes its stupid that to get the attention they want they are forced to play "the game", but they've played it damn well.
At least enough for the purpose of this discussion.
This is all a matter of perspective. We don't have any way of knowing the portion of rapidshare's traffic that is just for piracy. Of course when all we see is the piracy use but that is because legitimate uses are usually not getting passed around publicly online.
When I was programming (the non-code kind) a TV station, if we were getting content sent to us over the internet, rapidshare and their ilk were the most common distribution channel. Of course this made my inner nerd rage, but our providers liked using those services. When I was putting in some time at a radio station? Emailed mp3s from artists/promoters were frequent (and what I requested), but we still got rapidshare links.
Yes, I just provided anecdotal evidence for the other side too, but my point is: _we don't know_, so lets not make assumptions on the content.
Nobody but people who spend to much time with the business world or tech world really give a damn if you're in a tiff with google. Just do whats best for the consumer: support both.
Frankly, you're in no position to talk badly about a company forcing new things on the rest of the world.
This theoretical market for minor applications, sold independently for $20+, simply does not exist in my experience. Sure, there's the odd thing out there, just like there is for Windows, but as you said, if anything they'll benefit from increased exposure.
You're right about this. I think the only reason many under $10 phone "apps" exist is because for those platforms, the free alternative didn't already exist. On windows and os x there is so much available for free that I think for the most part I think the majority of small utilities sales will happen either because a) the free alternative has either a terrible UI, or installation process that is outside of the grasp of the basic user or b) there is not (yet) a free version available from that installation vector and the user decides the small charge is worth it to avoid the hassle.
Presumably you did that in the class that covered the human visual system. Otherwise you'd know that anything moving, flashing or flickering is distracting whether you consciously watch it or not. It's even worse if it's in your peripheral vision.
Yep. I said they should be able to handle the distraction, not be oblivious to it. Whats next? Having the shades always drawn because something might happen outside.
Yeah; I saw the comma right after I hit submit; I tried a few different openings to my post and didn't edit out all traces of when I was going to use a modifier there; So sue me;
Anyone in college, should be able to handle the tiny distraction of a active screen in their eyesight. Period. I don't think that we need to handhold on such a tiny problem. Don't blame the laptops, blame the students who don't want to pay attention in class.
When I watch other people's laptop's in class its because I want to. In one of my classes I would watch another student play WoW, it wasn't distracting me from the lecture, I was actively ignoring it anyway. If he wasn't there, I would have started playing sudoku.
This is where trust comes in - you only download from trusted uploaders...
Oh come on, the piracy "scene" is a big enough circlejerk without having to check the reputation of the uploader on every single thing you're downloading.
I wont say this is a "solved" problem, but we do have sufficient workarounds in place. The NYC subway system would flood (IIRC in less than a week) if they weren't constantly working to keep the water out.
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they transfer standard object types only.
Apple is looking at a more advanced use model than what programmers are used to.
Yeah, structured data passed between applications is SO advanced and innovative, my feeble programmer mind can't handle using anything but the filesystem. If apple had implemented a good system and given it to developers to use, we would see it used to create a way to share files between apps that works better than the filesystem. If that system existed, people would be happy to use it instead of the filesystem. It doesn't so instead they as for the bare minimum that they're used to, but they don't even get that.
don't claim it's a technical issue when it's not.
Relying on using software exploits to achieve the desired level of functionality isn't sustainable. It isn't 100% a technical issue... YET.
Do you also want to decide for yourself what software runs on the computer in your car? How about the computer in your toaster? Can't something have a computer in it without needing to be customizable?
I would. I know a handful of people that do performance tuning on snowmobiles. The things that could once be adjusted mechanically are now done in software. Not only can they not change the software themselves, where they once had the flexibility the entire manual adjustment range, the dealer can only change the settings to preset combination A, B or C.
Yep, 70% of UK airspace and/or (depending on which center) the Northeastern Atlantic Ocean doesn't really matter.
The military takes care of its own.
No, it doesn't. It only does exactly what the civilian leadership tells it.
I've felt for a while this is how deletions should be handled. A stub that says that it was deleted, a link to the deletion discussion, a caution that its probably a bad article, a link to an archived version of the article and a link that brings the article back.
All the other articles have their histories available to non-admins, even historical versions of deleted articles should exist for the masses.
Wikipedia needs more internal bickering, not snide remarks on the outside.
It should be aware of and listen to the snide remarks and then go be introspective about it. The snide remarks are coming from people who don't have the time on their hands to deal with all the luggage that comes with being a even somewhat-involved editor.
Really Wikipedia needs to establish once and for all who its target audience it. The masses or the just the assholes who want to play admin and then proceed to listen to desires of its target audience.
But its easier to point the passerby at the established guidelines weather they are right or wrong, so that's what will happen. In the end that passerby doesn't care enough to even question them anymore and stops (or doesn't start) editing.
Also, unlike normal processes, the kill command has no effect on a zombie process.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process
While I agree in principle, the analogy here is off. If the car doesn't start in this case, I can just throw it away and clone a working one.
Yeah, that's the trouble with the analogy, but yours is off too. You can clone an older version of that car, but cloning a working one all depends on your definition of "working".
Lets say your car doesn't start and you don't know why. Its actually just out of gas, but you restore from a backup image of the car from when it was running on fumes. Now maybe that old image is good enough to get you were you were going, but its still risky to reset and forget. (Gas being an expendable resource this isn't a very good analogy, but you get the point.)
If you actually want a table of data, then use the table tag
What about when I just want a grid layout? Now that we're forcing html to be "applications", where the hell is the grid container that has been in every other sensible graphics library for ages? Hack it together with css because its bad practice to use a table for that?
What's wrong with a private channel on a public network? (Or several for redundancy)
When I was an IRCop, whenever I found a c&c channel I would put a bot in there to gline anyone who entered. About once a month or so we'd go on hunting trips to find bots reporting to our network. Rather than build the redundancy of multiple networks into the malware, they'd rather use a system they can still fly under the radar on.
What's wrong with a list of IP addresses?
DHCP. You can't expect to find a box that can't be traced back to you and rely on it keeping the same IP address.
A list of IPs or IRC networks are finite resources. The chances of loosing control of your bots by relying on these is higher than if you rely on something like twitter.
Just like the FCC censors phonecalls, right?
Lets get hypotheical for a moment:
We do give priority to VoIP traffic. All I have to do is write a "codec" that tunnels binary data over SIP. Now you're in contention with my "phone call".
just like any other top level domain can be used for any purpose.
Might want to check your facts there. Good luck buying .gov and .mil domains for your own personal use.
While its true that most .edu tld's are educational institutions, not all are, and there is no rule saying one way or the other.
Except for the rules about it: http://net.educause.edu/edudomain/show_faq.asp?code=EDUELIGIBILITY
It sounds like a textbook example of feature and focus creep.
From using facebook it seems like they lack a real plan anyway. When they're not busy ripping of the hot new thing, feature creep is their roadmap.
During the Iraq war log leak someone at wikileaks, probably Assange, was interviewed on NPR where he said that just publishing something once they got it didn't garner the media attention on the documents that they wanted. It was only because of the fact they pussyfoot around with the media that they're interested in the information.
When their goal is to get people to see the information they're publishing rather than just let it sit somewhere on a web server, it may be worth it for them to play the games they do. Yes its stupid that to get the attention they want they are forced to play "the game", but they've played it damn well.
At least enough for the purpose of this discussion.
This is all a matter of perspective. We don't have any way of knowing the portion of rapidshare's traffic that is just for piracy. Of course when all we see is the piracy use but that is because legitimate uses are usually not getting passed around publicly online.
When I was programming (the non-code kind) a TV station, if we were getting content sent to us over the internet, rapidshare and their ilk were the most common distribution channel. Of course this made my inner nerd rage, but our providers liked using those services. When I was putting in some time at a radio station? Emailed mp3s from artists/promoters were frequent (and what I requested), but we still got rapidshare links.
Yes, I just provided anecdotal evidence for the other side too, but my point is: _we don't know_, so lets not make assumptions on the content.
Microsoft,
Nobody but people who spend to much time with the business world or tech world really give a damn if you're in a tiff with google. Just do whats best for the consumer: support both.
Frankly, you're in no position to talk badly about a company forcing new things on the rest of the world.
Then don't give it a global ipv6 address, only give it a link- or site-local addresses.
This theoretical market for minor applications, sold independently for $20+, simply does not exist in my experience. Sure, there's the odd thing out there, just like there is for Windows, but as you said, if anything they'll benefit from increased exposure.
You're right about this. I think the only reason many under $10 phone "apps" exist is because for those platforms, the free alternative didn't already exist. On windows and os x there is so much available for free that I think for the most part I think the majority of small utilities sales will happen either because a) the free alternative has either a terrible UI, or installation process that is outside of the grasp of the basic user or b) there is not (yet) a free version available from that installation vector and the user decides the small charge is worth it to avoid the hassle.
Presumably you did that in the class that covered the human visual system. Otherwise you'd know that anything moving, flashing or flickering is distracting whether you consciously watch it or not. It's even worse if it's in your peripheral vision.
Yep. I said they should be able to handle the distraction, not be oblivious to it. Whats next? Having the shades always drawn because something might happen outside.
Yeah; I saw the comma right after I hit submit; I tried a few different openings to my post and didn't edit out all traces of when I was going to use a modifier there; So sue me;
Anyone in college, should be able to handle the tiny distraction of a active screen in their eyesight. Period. I don't think that we need to handhold on such a tiny problem. Don't blame the laptops, blame the students who don't want to pay attention in class.
When I watch other people's laptop's in class its because I want to. In one of my classes I would watch another student play WoW, it wasn't distracting me from the lecture, I was actively ignoring it anyway. If he wasn't there, I would have started playing sudoku.
This is where trust comes in - you only download from trusted uploaders...
Oh come on, the piracy "scene" is a big enough circlejerk without having to check the reputation of the uploader on every single thing you're downloading.
I wont say this is a "solved" problem, but we do have sufficient workarounds in place. The NYC subway system would flood (IIRC in less than a week) if they weren't constantly working to keep the water out.
I wasn't - that was default setup of pretty much all fptds I have seen in RH and Debian.
Default configuration found inadequate. Film at 11.