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RIAA Threatens ICANN Over Music-Themed gTLD Standards
think_nix writes "A letter to ICANN (PDF) from Victoria Sheckler, Deputy General Counsel for the RIAA, demands modifications to the future implementation of the .music gTLD, threatening to 'escalate the issue' if certain concerns about 'wide scale copyright and trademark infringement' are not addressed by ICANN in compliance with the RIAA. 'Under the current proposed standard, we fear that we will have no realistic ability to object if a pirate chooses to hijack a music themed gTLD to enable wide scale copyright infringement of our works,' Sheckler said."
I'm completely conflicted about who to root for in this battle.
According to their lies they should have gone bankrupt by now. Maybe this year they can finally fuck off?
"Welcome to our world. We are the wasted youth. And we are the future too." Yes, I know these are stupid lyrics.
Isn't this akin to the DEA informing a grocery store that they can't have a parking lot, because a lot of drug deals are taking place there at night?
Don't take life too seriously; it isn't permanent.
It's just a name.
The infringers look for things that end in .torrent not in .music btw ;)
Oh hey thanks for your information about the parking lot, I used to buy my drugs at the chemist, where there was a limited selection. Now I can get the drugs I want from this source without the hassle of getting them through proper channels.
You'd be pretty stupid to paint yourself in a corner like that, as a pirate. That's akin to the .xxx TLD that'd make porn sites way too easy to filter.
I don't think .music would be used for much pirating. Plus, even if it does, it would've happened WITHOUT it anyways... The RIAA is apparently trying to piss off everyone they can. I don't get it.
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The RIAA group wants to make it easier to block TLDs from being enacted by simply saying 'this effects us' without showing any actual proof.
I call it 'The Aristocrats'
Is this "responsibly" as defined by the dictionary or by RIAA's cracked logic?
Responsible organizations like RIAA sue their customers, repeatedly, as a deterrent, against non-customers...
crazy dynamite monkey
How exactly is any one TLD more or less capable of being used by pirates than any other?
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
Why can't all the crazy morons in the world who go on shooting sprees atleast shot the right people? EVERYONE in the RIAA would be a good start.
"Dear ICANN. .music TLD and get all the money we can from it. Our lawyers think we can make a quick buck renting domains at this TLD at 80 cents an hour to anyone wishing to have a website to share some music that we might think we own. If we don't.... well, who cares.
We think we should control the
This will surely help our fight against piracy.
Regards,
MAFIAA "
There's an easy solution to this. Give them their own .riaa gtld and let them ghettoize it however they like.
That can be the official newspeak channel for angry out of touch distributors, and the rest of us can get on with appreciating music for its aesthetic value.
The RIAA wants special considerations for rights holders that no other business or perons on the Internet has today and wants to limit criticisms under the guise of morality. For example if I want to register JustinBieber.sucksballs the RIAA wants to make it easier to challenge it because of the use of "JustinBieber" and they don't like the suffix for morality reasons. The first part of the objection may be partially valid, however in the context of parody and criticism, it should be allowable. The second part they object because of community standards like morality. I have no doubt though that they would object to JustinBieber.terriblemusician and JustinBieber.isnotverygood. The best counter case I have to this is when someone registered the Did Glen Beck rape and murder a young girl in 1990 case. The courts allowed the domain and shot down all of Glen Beck's objections.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
I'm surprised that the RIAA is more worried about piracy than having their domains bought up by speculators who will charge them millions of dollars for the names of their bands.
And this is from the very same people who have hidden away and make great classical music performances hard to listen to except on internet radio? Assholes. Not that I do not understand copyrights and the implications of what is going. Gone are the days when you could just go out and get a recording take it to your friends house and spin it. This is how great music was sold. I would show another music lover how great a performance was and then they would find that a copy of the recording was gifted to them by their wife or relative because they really want to add the record to their collection. What is their thinking? They have killed the classical music industry and strangled great organizations like symphony orchestras and specialized groups like Music Antiqua Koln! Die you bastards!
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WOOOSH!
riaa!
I didn't know the RIAA is music. I thought they were just the people who cheat and steal from music.
The Language [IAA] defines the difference as $4M for incorrect usage of the English language. Please pay yesterday, thanks - LIAA.
When did compliance with RIAA become a law, regulation, or directive ?
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The RIAA is apparently trying to piss off everyone they can. I don't get it.
Dear Everybody,
You're not us. So that means you're either a pirate or a pirate pretending to be a consumer. That includes ICANN. That includes the Vatican. That includes OPEC. That includes the United States Government.
You want to use the word "music?" We can assure you, only if you pay royalties to us and right now all we see is people profiting off of our artist's copyrighted works (i.e. all music) that we broke our backs locking down with crippling contracts.
Remember our motto: "If you're not us, you're against us."
No, that wasn't a typo. We're sick of making weak individuals our enemies -- it's time we pick on someone our own size.
Notes, scales, chords, percussion, etc. It's only a matter of time before we own those words and what they represent.
The RIAA
P.S. Resistance is futile.
My work here is dung.
Somebody is merely trying to justify their 7-figure salary. Like a career politician, they aren't interested in whether their plan "succeeds" or "fails" as much as whether it can be used to justify a bigger budget. As always, the more money you control, the bigger your perceived worth, and the more precedent you have to take it to the next level.
use the fork ...
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There are lots and lots of bands and musicians that don't sign with RIAA members. (i.e. MOST of them)
There are lots of music categories that have nothing to do with RIAA.
These people piss me off.
Under the current proposed standard, we fear that we will have no realistic ability to object if a pirate chooses to hijack a music themed gTLD to enable wide scale copyright infringement of our works
Ah, so really they're worried about people copying their ridiculous lawsuits, since that's the only thing the RIAA has ever produced. The RIAA's works does not include music. The artists' works include music, but not the RIAA's.
If they really are concerned about music piracy, then whoever decided that the .music gTLD is a piracy aid needs to go take a basic computer class and learn a thing or two about the internet. It's about as ridiculous as me writing the word "music" on my router in sharpie and therefore my entire home network is contributing to music piracy. Get a brain, RIAA.
How can you not register a domain name? Do you mean we'd have an army of sites which only exist as "26.54.25.142"? Wouldn't that be the grandpappy of all confusion?
"Aw damn, I typed 26.54.25.143"
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Music industry as a whole can go screw themselves, I'm not giving them any more money and not paying attention to them until some measure of sanity is restored and I can listen to music without a legal Damocles sword dangling above our collective heads.
.cd, .fm, .am. .es (itun.es), .tv, .mu (music), .gg (as in ogg files), and probably more.
Generally, the tinfoil hat makes it difficult to see, so you just kind of mash on the keyboard and assume you got to the site you were hoping for. If not, you blame the chip the CIA put in your brain.
Someone has gotta find a way to pit the RIAA against the TSA.
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When did the internet revolve around what the RIAA thought. It seems that their ultimate concern is that they will become irrevelant and end up with the buggy whip manufacturers. The world they were created in no longer exists and they are fighting to keep it around. What will happen if the RIAA is not around... nothing at all. Good bye, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
We're not happy 'til you're not happy.
namely the .ratfukr domain
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
Under the current proposed standard, we fear that we will have no realistic ability to object if a pirate chooses to hijack a music themed gTLD to enable wide scale copyright infringement of our works
They appear to be under the mistaken assumption (dilution) that it's the world's job to make sure they obtain maximum profits.
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
You kidding? That's Aliens Vs Predator territory right there.
"Whoever wins, we lose"
So be it. Give it to the greedy bastards. And the moment ICANN signs over the rights to the .music TLD to them, I want all, and I mean ALL, music groups and music related sites OFF of my ever valuable and largely becoming scarce .com TLDs.
They have no "rights" to them. You can't own the word "music". Period. I'm a musician and have been for the last 24 years. I own only what I create and that's all I've got. Nothing more, nothing less.
F 'em.
"I love lamp."
This cracks me up. Basically she thinks she sounds imposing by saying those words (they're so generic that they allow the reader to fill in his worst imaginings, she imagines).
There's no escalation and nothing the RIAA can do in this instance. Empty threats.
"Aw damn, I typed 26.54.25.143"
And got porn.
Only buy music directly from the artists. It solves the entire problem.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Remember the HDMI port on the back of your computers and TVs. The "industry" got the whole world (USian) to require these special connectors for HD content so you can't easily make a copy. They now control anyone who makes an HDMI connector without the requisite encryption (HDCP, the reason my TV resets every time I change a channel) and you can't make HDMI as you need to be licensed. Same idea here.
At least on the outset, it might make it easier for artists to market themselves. The easier it is to market themselves, the less there is a need for the RIAA.
I don't see this domain as an opportunity for piracy or copyright infringement. I think pirates already know where to get the material.
I do see this as an opportunity for artists that are not signed onto RIAA labels to get a bit more exposure. I would think it easier to search on search engines for .music domains and finding new artists. An example search might be "Rock and .music". Or to find an official website for an artist e.g. "Artist name and .music". Assuming of course there is some for of sanity with the use of the domain.
Really, I'm not really sure how much of this is true or enforceable, but I'm sure that ICANN being an us headquartered organization is not helping the matter.
We should we (rest of the world) care what an US Association thinks about anything?
i saw a comic once, cant recall where. but it really hit close to home as to why this is such a huge issue,
shows two guys, one watching a downloaded movie, the other, watching the legit purchased copy of the same movie.
Guy 1, hits play, and enjoys the movie, no previews, no hour long dvd menus that cant easily be bypassed. etc.
Guy 2. HIts play, gets warned 2-3 times about how he is going to hell for software and media piracy, watches 12 dozen movie previews, more anti piracy messages. etc.
Last i checked, it was still " innocent till proven guilty " , at least on paper, may not be so much in practice these days unless you have the cash to buy your freedom, but to me, it would seem bad business practice to accuse every person who willingly correctly purchases your product or services, of obtaining them Illegally.
I would like to know what the RIAA's stand is on the Radio, for MANY years, i would record songs from the Radio to tape. According to their thinking, that is Piracy, Why were they not losing this money then, back when i was a kid, a blank tape was 2 bucks, and a radio with a record button could be had for under 10 bucks. so for 12 bucks, i could pirate whatever i wanted as long as it played on the Radio.
Sure the Radio stations pay royalties, but if 100 listeners record one song off the radio, and that one song is the only reason those people would have bought that one tape/CD/pile of steaming shit called Justin Beiber , they just lost themselves a HUGE chunk of profit. Realistically, the RIAA should be suing every radio station every time they play any RIAA Artist, for " potential for piracy " as just one time playing a song over the radio, might mean Billions of potential losses for them, since in this day and age, ripping audio from a radio to a computer is very simple.
Not sure how music played from a .music gTLD is any different then music played from KBER101 or any other local area radio station or website. the RIAA can try to control the Mediums used to distribute the content all they want, they will NEVER control the consumers, and their actions will make many otherwise legal consumers resort to piracy to get what they want.
Gotta hand it to the RIAA though, never ending greedy fucks cant seem to stop dragging themselves through the mud every chance they get. I would consider it a terminal case of " footinmouth" gone horribly extreme. Kinda wish we could round them all up, toss them in a spaceship, and launch them into the sun, but i think ill be more entertained by watching them fuck themselves over every time they open their collective mouths the way they do, and Death is far to nice a punishment for greedy assholes like them, watching them suffer, flounder,and eventually be flipping burgers while taking orders from a PFY is justice in some sense.
Im just glad they have not decided to find a way to charge fees about news on the RIAA, its one of the few remaining " Free entertainments " out there.
Boo fucking hoo.
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
The RIAA are showing themselves to be a bunch of idiots trying to throw their weight around. They DO NOT own the internet. They should just BACK OFF. As has been said elsewhere here, piracy will happen anyway, and not necessarily on .music. If a site is engaged in privacy it's better to go after the individual site rather than the RIAA trying to dictate who is on a domain. What if the RIAA also decide they don't like legal but free stuff? And do they propose to dictate over the whole planet (this is a TLD after all) ?
The RIAA has a right to spout whatever they want but I see no reason why ICANN or anyone else should care.
Why does the world need so many TLDs? Their flood the world with TLDs policy only stokes confusion and profits in the domain system and provides very little in return in terms of real value.
How many times do companies really need to register their business using every possible tld to keep others from messing with them?
Divide and Conquer.
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sells them to torrent pirates
I'm a musician
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Great idea, but which side do we back? Mutual destruction seems a little too ambitious.
A, use RIAA against TSA) Tell the RIAA that the new full-body scanners take copies of the contents of all CDs. This is only a minor theoretical asswiping, so we should expect the morons to believe it.
B, use TSA against RIAA) Tell the TSA that the new copy protection on all store-bought CDs is potentially explosive, especially when it comes into contact with the vapors of ultracheap coffee and certain other known toxins.
Kind of like Alien vs. Predator...
99.9 percent of the web is porn and/or spam, the rest is the WWW's form of background radiation.
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