After playing games on the consoles since the days when Super Mario was on the go, this is a conclusion I'm fast coming around to. I'm sick of my old games becoming bricks or coasters when my console of 3 generations ago finally dies. I'm sick of games being released with bugs that never get fixed. I'm sick of forking out for the next generation. For example, I've now got a 360 because Halo 3 needs it. I don't want any more 360 games, but I had to buy a 360 just for this one.
So now I have a PC with a Core 2 Duo, 2 gigs of ram, and an 8800. I won't be the console-makers' butt-slave anymore.
Ah, hello troll. I love you guys! I was wondering when you'd be out to play.
Seriously, I don't care if Microsoft is Nazi Germany. You can't just say "This article is wrong because I saw the opposite happen!" and then not offer any information to back up your claim. That's ridiculous.
For example we have a clear history of abortion being perfectly legal yet numerous suits are always under way to try to nibble away a womans right to murder her baby.
As far as I'm concerned, Open Source projects and Linux stand to do nothing but benefit enormously from these specs being opened. It's truly mind-boggling how negative the reaction on a place like Slashdot can get about AMD/ATI.
Phenom performance is pretty far from abysmal, it just isn't fantastic, and is somewhat disappointing.
And with more and more AMD/ATI specs being made open, my next hardware upgrade is likely to have one anyway, because things like that are important to me.
I just don't see offline updates as that much more secure. The software comes from the same place. You might be installing something malicious and have no idea until the next time you connect to the internet.
There is no real security, and it does no good to be paranoid about it; just keep sensitive information well separated and you're golden.
Just because you can't protect yourself is no reason to preach overzealousness. After thousands of updates on a number of different OSes, I've never been attacked through an online update system.
And in any case, that would be a waste of effort on a fresh install. What exactly is a worm / script kiddy going to do when you have nothing to lose?
Windows update doesn't take forever. Last time I installed XP the whole thing was done in about 20 minutes. And at this point, Ubuntu 7.10 takes just as much time.
I can see how this could be useful for those without decent-speed internet connections, though.
...What? He was talking about people not being comfortable shifting to Linux because it doesn't look and feel like Windows, and he's pretty much right. What are you even babbling about?
1.) He begins the article with a list of reasons that he says Vista sucks. And in my own experience running Vista, every single one of them is not true.
2.) I have never heard of the first 3 games he mentions.
3.) He claims that Civilization 4 hangs his system. But I play Civilization 4 religiously, and I run Vista. In fact, I have NEVER had any trouble getting it to run.
MY conclusion: The user is an idiot who screwed something up on his system and now uses Vista to scapegoat it, as is so popular these days. And of course trash like this gets the front page on slashdot.
For the record: I spend most of my time in Ubuntu 7.10. I'm no Windows fan. But if you're going to hate something, for god's sake, hate it for a GOOD reason, not a stupid reason you made up.
What's arrogant is your attitude that Microsoft should be at your beck and call. It IS their product. If you don't want it, don't buy it. Myself, I like Vista enough that I will buy a copy of it rather than XP for any computer I build, unless I building something obscenely low-spec.
* increased support for DRM which inherently decreases my freedom, especially when applied to broadly
Never seen it do anything in my install of Vista.
* continuation of Microsoft's dominance which I have found through experience indirectly hinders my ability to choose the software and hardware that I can make use of
And the fact that microsoft's "dominance" has resulted in overall ease-of-use in their products is irrelevant to you? That said, I would actually rather be using Linux, but until Audio Engineering and Gaming are easier to do on Linux, it is useless to me except to mess around with.
* the artificially high cost attributed to this operating system
They can charge whatever they want for it. It has no effect on the merits of the OS.
* the continuation of apparent willful vendor independent standards
Please rephrase the point in english.
* the continued use as leveraging tool to push Microsoft specific, and often closed psuedo-standards
This is like people saying "I hate Vista but it has DX10 and I want DX10 on XP!" If you really want DX10 that much, get Vista. If you hate Vista too much to buy it for DX10, then you clearly don't want DX10 that badly.
Simply put, it's Microsoft's product. What they choose to ship or not ship with it is entirely their choice.
I am a gamer in his early twenties. The first game I ever played was Duke Nukem 3D when I was barely old enough to know what a video game was, which I suppose was fairly graphic violence for the time. I've since played every violent game under the sun.
I have never killed anyone. I don't support war. I live a peaceful existance. And on the occasion I get severely frustrated, these days I play some Team Fortress 2 to relieve my anger.
Violence in video games does not cause violence in people. If people who play video games become murderers, they already had it in them beforehand. End of story.
They must be using goofy hardware. Vista never takes more than 45 seconds for me to boot, unless you count the 15 seconds in which I have Grub sitting up beforehand.
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Um... Windows OEM PC == $$$ for M$? How can you miss this?
After playing games on the consoles since the days when Super Mario was on the go, this is a conclusion I'm fast coming around to. I'm sick of my old games becoming bricks or coasters when my console of 3 generations ago finally dies. I'm sick of games being released with bugs that never get fixed. I'm sick of forking out for the next generation. For example, I've now got a 360 because Halo 3 needs it. I don't want any more 360 games, but I had to buy a 360 just for this one. So now I have a PC with a Core 2 Duo, 2 gigs of ram, and an 8800. I won't be the console-makers' butt-slave anymore.
Ah, hello troll. I love you guys! I was wondering when you'd be out to play.
Seriously, I don't care if Microsoft is Nazi Germany. You can't just say "This article is wrong because I saw the opposite happen!" and then not offer any information to back up your claim. That's ridiculous.
Funny how you have no identity and gave none for your company.
By that logic, Linux's market share must have EVERYTHING to do with its quality, no?
uh... "champion"?
Onos!
As far as I'm concerned, Open Source projects and Linux stand to do nothing but benefit enormously from these specs being opened. It's truly mind-boggling how negative the reaction on a place like Slashdot can get about AMD/ATI.
Phenom performance is pretty far from abysmal, it just isn't fantastic, and is somewhat disappointing.
And with more and more AMD/ATI specs being made open, my next hardware upgrade is likely to have one anyway, because things like that are important to me.
Making the exploits public is what Mozilla does ANYWAY. That's how Open Source development works.
I just don't see offline updates as that much more secure. The software comes from the same place. You might be installing something malicious and have no idea until the next time you connect to the internet.
There is no real security, and it does no good to be paranoid about it; just keep sensitive information well separated and you're golden.
Just because you can't protect yourself is no reason to preach overzealousness. After thousands of updates on a number of different OSes, I've never been attacked through an online update system.
And in any case, that would be a waste of effort on a fresh install. What exactly is a worm / script kiddy going to do when you have nothing to lose?
Not me personally. I use what I feel like. Whatever anyone else thinks of it is no concern of mine.
Windows update doesn't take forever. Last time I installed XP the whole thing was done in about 20 minutes. And at this point, Ubuntu 7.10 takes just as much time.
I can see how this could be useful for those without decent-speed internet connections, though.
RTFA. Or, if you're too lazy to do that, at least read the summary. You clearly have done neither.
...What? He was talking about people not being comfortable shifting to Linux because it doesn't look and feel like Windows, and he's pretty much right. What are you even babbling about?
Wow, the trolls are really coming out of the woodwork today, aren't they?
A few things jump right out at me:
1.) He begins the article with a list of reasons that he says Vista sucks. And in my own experience running Vista, every single one of them is not true.
2.) I have never heard of the first 3 games he mentions.
3.) He claims that Civilization 4 hangs his system. But I play Civilization 4 religiously, and I run Vista. In fact, I have NEVER had any trouble getting it to run.
MY conclusion: The user is an idiot who screwed something up on his system and now uses Vista to scapegoat it, as is so popular these days. And of course trash like this gets the front page on slashdot.
For the record: I spend most of my time in Ubuntu 7.10. I'm no Windows fan. But if you're going to hate something, for god's sake, hate it for a GOOD reason, not a stupid reason you made up.
You've clearly expressed that you don't want it by not buying it, yet you still bitch on slashdot about their product you didn't buy.
What's arrogant is your attitude that Microsoft should be at your beck and call. It IS their product. If you don't want it, don't buy it. Myself, I like Vista enough that I will buy a copy of it rather than XP for any computer I build, unless I building something obscenely low-spec.
* increased support for DRM which inherently decreases my freedom, especially when applied to broadly
Never seen it do anything in my install of Vista.
* continuation of Microsoft's dominance which I have found through experience indirectly hinders my ability to choose the software and hardware that I can make use of
And the fact that microsoft's "dominance" has resulted in overall ease-of-use in their products is irrelevant to you? That said, I would actually rather be using Linux, but until Audio Engineering and Gaming are easier to do on Linux, it is useless to me except to mess around with.
* the artificially high cost attributed to this operating system
They can charge whatever they want for it. It has no effect on the merits of the OS.
* the continuation of apparent willful vendor independent standards
Please rephrase the point in english.
* the continued use as leveraging tool to push Microsoft specific, and often closed psuedo-standards
This is like people saying "I hate Vista but it has DX10 and I want DX10 on XP!" If you really want DX10 that much, get Vista. If you hate Vista too much to buy it for DX10, then you clearly don't want DX10 that badly.
Simply put, it's Microsoft's product. What they choose to ship or not ship with it is entirely their choice.
I am a gamer in his early twenties. The first game I ever played was Duke Nukem 3D when I was barely old enough to know what a video game was, which I suppose was fairly graphic violence for the time. I've since played every violent game under the sun.
I have never killed anyone. I don't support war. I live a peaceful existance. And on the occasion I get severely frustrated, these days I play some Team Fortress 2 to relieve my anger.
Violence in video games does not cause violence in people. If people who play video games become murderers, they already had it in them beforehand. End of story.
I never thought the day would come where I would actually side with the ESRB on something... but here it is.
They must be using goofy hardware. Vista never takes more than 45 seconds for me to boot, unless you count the 15 seconds in which I have Grub sitting up beforehand.