What are you doing here on/.? Do you want to infect us all?! You do know how fast can a virus spread through the intertubes? If not for Linux, I'll be writing my testament now.
In all seriousness, I love pulseaudio -- finally a simple way of configuring my bluetooth headset (and a brilliant user experience if used together with blueman). No snd-bt-sco driver or fiddling with.asoundrc anymore. You turn it on and it works. Pulseaudio even routes the sound from selected apps (e.g. twinkle) to the headset automatically.
>Since that didn't work out so well for them re: the internet, I'm not all that worried.
But it did work, did you forget 90%+ share of IE6 which had no new versions for about 5 years? They have won the browser war and then let the market stagnate.
Of course, internet is not just www, but still... The haven't won search engines war yet, partly because they can't use their Embrace Extend Extinguish tactics and their desktop OS monopoly there. In "the cloud" they surely can.
It reminds me of how Bhutan's government has developed its own Debian derivative - Dzongkha Debian Linux - which supports their native language. They have made a font for it too. Costs: around $80 000. I'm sure Tibet can afford such a price.
It is, and it is the same Obama who has stated that CIA operatives who were using torture won't be facing any consequences. So I strongly doubt that NSA will be in trouble now or ever.
>But then what about not having to use Anti-Virus on Linux? Speed boost, eh?
Well, antivirus tends to trash the hard disk which is the performance bottleneck of most PCs. Speaking of which, ext4 is rather nice and fast IMO.
>I'm not concerned with look and feel. I just want my computer to run optimally.
Why ubuntu then, you may want to try xubuntu perhaps?
>My CPU is an early Pentium 4 and a recent upgrade to 1.5GB from 512MB of RDRAM.
That should be more than enough for Ubuntu, my aunt has Linux (albeit not Ubuntu, but it shouldn't be much slower) running on a 1.4 Pentium 4 with 640 mb ram and Nvidia GeForce2 440 MMX with basic compiz effects enabled.
>My only other concern is drivers. If I have an old enough ATI card, will there by some kind of accelerated driver for it? I'm guessing the answer to this is going to be use-the-live-cd and find-out.
Apparently you'll be using open-source ati driver. It has 3d acceleration and it should be enough for compiz. My gf has an old ATI card, with no proprietary driver available. Compiz is a bit slow but still usable.
That is very true, Free and Open Source from signed repositories is the safest way of getting software. Besides, you must behave different if you are going to install some weird binary from the Internet (which is not the case with Windows or Mac). That will scare off the newbies and more advanced users will know of dangers anyway. So the impact from similar malware in Linux will be limited, not to mention various distributions, DE's and suchlike.
Still, it will be a matter of a different user's experience in Linux. You may make malware installs proceed the same way as normal software in Windows and MacOS, but it is much harder with a system which users routinely use signed repositories to install most of their software. In other words, your success will be very limited because the experience of installing malware will be very different to normal software.
The problem might be partly that users install legitimate software the same way they do it with software of questionable origin. That is true in Windows and appears to be true on MacOS too. If you however use signed central repositories to install trusted software instead, you will have a very different user experience if you try to install some random piece of software from the Internet or from p2p networks, e.g. installing software via Add/Remove Programs vs. downloading it manually, making it executable and running. It won't guarantee safety for a determined user, but a different user experience would sure scare many newbies off installing such malware.
We're already there, the floppies have changed though and are now USB thumbdrives. Sometimes it appears that every 2nd thumbdrive is infected with a worm.
Don't be too harsh on that manager, after all he is of US origin, they even call their local baseball contest "World Series". And since Linux is originally developed in Helsinki, he perceives is as an off-world thing.
So? We'll blame the technology and not the human? Do you suggest that we'll treat any user of said technology as guilty until proved innocent? Sorry if I failed to spot irony in your post.
>Yes, but does Ubuntu of 2009 run on the machine of 2003? It definitely does on the machine of 2002. Or do you explicitly need 2003?:) >How much does an Ubutu upgrade cost? 0,00 pick your favourite currency. >Can you hire somebody to fix bugs in your 2003 version of Ubuntu? If it were any 2003 versions... As the source code is open, it is theoretically possible to hire skillful programer(s) to fix any program for you. Canonical, OTOH is unlikely to support a version that old. >Can you get "new" copies of your 2003 Ubuntu and install them on new machines? You can download older versions and install them on new machines. Whether all hardware will be supported to full extend is highly questionable although you are most likely to get basic functionality.
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What are you doing here on /.? Do you want to infect us all?! You do know how fast can a virus spread through the intertubes? If not for Linux, I'll be writing my testament now.
In all seriousness, I love pulseaudio -- finally a simple way of configuring my bluetooth headset (and a brilliant user experience if used together with blueman). .asoundrc anymore. You turn it on and it works. Pulseaudio even routes the sound from selected apps (e.g. twinkle) to the headset automatically.
No snd-bt-sco driver or fiddling with
Have you ever considered switching users instead of logging in/out all the time?
That was the only possibility before the iBotnet. Now it is not.
>Since that didn't work out so well for them re: the internet, I'm not all that worried.
But it did work, did you forget 90%+ share of IE6 which had no new versions for about 5 years? They have won the browser war and then let the market stagnate.
Of course, internet is not just www, but still... The haven't won search engines war yet, partly because they can't use their Embrace Extend Extinguish tactics and their desktop OS monopoly there. In "the cloud" they surely can.
Yeah, because it would be hilarious not being able to uninstall Apple Updater or QuickTime... Wait, what?
It reminds me of how Bhutan's government has developed its own Debian derivative - Dzongkha Debian Linux - which supports their native language. They have made a font for it too. Costs: around $80 000. I'm sure Tibet can afford such a price.
It is, and it is the same Obama who has stated that CIA operatives who were using torture won't be facing any consequences.
So I strongly doubt that NSA will be in trouble now or ever.
So Bahnhof means "railway station" in Swedish too?
>But then what about not having to use Anti-Virus
on Linux? Speed boost, eh?
Well, antivirus tends to trash the hard disk which is the performance bottleneck of most PCs. Speaking of which, ext4 is rather nice and fast IMO.
>I'm not concerned with look and feel. I just want my computer to run optimally.
Why ubuntu then, you may want to try xubuntu perhaps?
>My CPU is an early Pentium 4 and a recent upgrade to 1.5GB from 512MB of RDRAM.
That should be more than enough for Ubuntu, my aunt has Linux (albeit not Ubuntu, but it shouldn't be much slower) running on a 1.4 Pentium 4 with 640 mb ram and Nvidia GeForce2 440 MMX with basic compiz effects enabled.
>My only other concern is drivers. If I have an
old enough ATI card, will there by some kind of
accelerated driver for it? I'm guessing the
answer to this is going to be use-the-live-cd and
find-out.
Apparently you'll be using open-source ati driver. It has 3d acceleration and it should be enough for compiz. My gf has an old ATI card, with no proprietary driver available. Compiz is a bit slow but still usable.
That is very true, Free and Open Source from signed repositories is the safest way of getting software.
Besides, you must behave different if you are going to install some weird binary from the Internet (which is not the case with Windows or Mac). That will scare off the newbies and more advanced users will know of dangers anyway. So the impact from similar malware in Linux will be limited, not to mention various distributions, DE's and suchlike.
>However, IF Adobe made CS4 for Linux, and IF you P2P downloaded it and installed it, you too could have this Trojan on Linux.
I thought that was mantra for Year of Linux on Desktop, nor Year of Trojan on Linux.
Still, it will be a matter of a different user's experience in Linux. You may make malware installs proceed the same way as normal software in Windows and MacOS, but it is much harder with a system which users routinely use signed repositories to install most of their software.
In other words, your success will be very limited because the experience of installing malware will be very different to normal software.
The problem might be partly that users install legitimate software the same way they do it with software of questionable origin. That is true in Windows and appears to be true on MacOS too.
If you however use signed central repositories to install trusted software instead, you will have a very different user experience if you try to install some random piece of software from the Internet or from p2p networks, e.g. installing software via Add/Remove Programs vs. downloading it manually, making it executable and running.
It won't guarantee safety for a determined user, but a different user experience would sure scare many newbies off installing such malware.
CS3 runs with wine, but I am yet to see wine-based botnet. Possibly because it won't autostart.
In the worst-case-scenario it may even work once, but it won't autostart and getting rid of it is as trivial as purging ~/.wine
>My only question is, where is Vista SP2? Last I checked, it was not yet released.
That is EXACTLY the reason why it is the safest OS on the planet.
We're already there, the floppies have changed though and are now USB thumbdrives. Sometimes it appears that every 2nd thumbdrive is infected with a worm.
Don't be too harsh on that manager, after all he is of US origin, they even call their local baseball contest "World Series".
And since Linux is originally developed in Helsinki, he perceives is as an off-world thing.
Didn't get that analogy.
What will they think of IM services with encryption?
So? We'll blame the technology and not the human? Do you suggest that we'll treat any user of said technology as guilty until proved innocent?
Sorry if I failed to spot irony in your post.
>Yes, but does Ubuntu of 2009 run on the machine of 2003? :)
It definitely does on the machine of 2002. Or do you explicitly need 2003?
>How much does an Ubutu upgrade cost?
0,00 pick your favourite currency.
>Can you hire somebody to fix bugs in your 2003 version of Ubuntu?
If it were any 2003 versions... As the source code is open, it is theoretically possible to hire skillful programer(s) to fix any program for you. Canonical, OTOH is unlikely to support a version that old.
>Can you get "new" copies of your 2003 Ubuntu and install them on new machines?
You can download older versions and install them on new machines. Whether all hardware will be supported to full extend is highly questionable although you are most likely to get basic functionality.
Kazan was recently declared as Russias "third capital city", the first two being Moscow and St. Petersburg.
That is true. North Korea is one of the most literate countries in the world, with a literacy rate of 99% for adults.