...for a project that started out as a hack to tranfer some files between a SunOS box and some Messy DOS box running LANMAN.
I appreciate Samba, especially with the PDC stuff that obviates the need for costly NT server licenses here at the $workplace. Great to see that a hack that was born out of need is running circles around the cream of the Borg's crop.
Also, I agree with the rest that I'd love to see the numbers to back up the claims. Not that it really matters though. With samba you get a real good solution for an infintessimal fraction of the price of the Microsoft malware:)
I mean really how often do you have to reboot your linux box?
Never. I use FreeBSD. (*rimshot*)
But since we're talking init here, having a plaform agnostic init procedure that could parralellize tasks while booting, and have some clue when some service is done starting, so it can kickstart the one depending on it, would be a boon to have on any OS that wants to behave like UNIX.
For servers, sure, the old init works just fine, but being able to boot quickly would be nice for kernel developers.
You meddle with pointers in kernelspace, you panic, you debug, and ultimately: reboot. Happens more often than you think if you're meddling with that kinda stuff.
Why the hell is everyone thinking that Matt left? This fork isn't an 'angry' fork. DFBSD is just another BSD based off of FreeBSD 4 that is exploring some new ideas that Matt has. It's evolution. If DragonFly beats the pants off of 5.x in the future, I'm sure lots of DragonFly code will be appearing in the "official" FreeBSD tree.
Matt already wrote a SHITLOAD of code for DragonFly. He already overhauled the threading in the kernel, and put in a totally new slab allocator. Right now he's overhauling the namecache system.
Also, the DragonFly gang are doing chores nobody in the official FreeBSD camp cares enough about, like removal of __P(), removal of the 'register' keyword and ANSIfication of old K&R code. Of course we'll be seeing those efforts back in the other BSDs.
These changes that Matt and his merry gang of hackers are making are changes that would never be accepted by the FreeBSD deities with a commit bit,because they're intrusive. Hence the reason Matt forked off DragonFly.
Interesting. Using the connection latency of a connection to the RIAA webserver to store your favorite Britney Spears (bleagh) mp3s. Sure, man. But strictly academicly, right?:)
Q: Why the hell are you flooding the shit out of my network?
A: Oh, I'm just storing data temporarily.
Seriously, the idea is interesting, but I doubt that many network operators will like the extra network load. It would be interesting to build a SAN in this manner, just for academic's sake;-)
Oh, and the example with Microsoft's exchange servers made me chuckle. Finally a reliable storage "medium" from Microsoft! Go figure:)
When an asteroid does strike the earth and wipes us all out, and some future intelligent creature fills our niche, what will they think when they excavate our natural history museums and find dinosaur bones?
No, they'll find the charred remains of the OSDL serverpark, and after years of research to decypher our arcane old language from those primitive magnetic disks, they found out that Timothy made a dupe post on slashdot again.
I love BeOS too. But the spellchecker sucks. Your post proves it. *ducks*
But you are right. For multimedia purposes, BeOS is really well suited. It's one of the few OS'es I know that can smoothly play 8 (probably more) avi's at the same time on modest hardware:)
Also, nice to see something Europe-centric on slashdot:) (Guess what, I'm European, woohoo). Guess I gotta have a look-see and maybe exersize the ole creditcard for one.
The moderators are on crack. To understand this joke, take a good look at the parent post and turn your monitor upside down, or go stand on your head.
And yeah, it pretty much murphy-related.
You probably don't have much of an online presence then and aren't on mailinglists that get archived publicly.
You could say I shouldn't enlist on such things, but development on open source stuff pretty much demands that you give your mail address to the general public in order to receive patches and whatnot.
So, we have to live with the spam, or try really hard to blokc it. Losing this dns based blacklist is a shame. And I think blacklisting the world is just an antisocial thing to do. He could have just shut down the DNS server and have stuff time out or fail (NXDOMAIN). If he just killed his nameserver, we wouldn't have this problem with mail being rejected.
Yep, and spammers abuse that a lot. That's why I block every mail that doesn't conme from a DNS certified MX. It might not keep all the spam out, but it certainly does help
Moderate this up. It cuts straight through the FUD from the qmail/postfix/exim fanboys.
I _NEVER_ touch the.cf. Never never never. Creating a sendmail.cf on e.g. FreeBSD requires no more knowlegde than how to run 'make' in/etc/mail. You don't even _need_ to mess with m4. NetBSD does the same. OpenBSD however requires you to make your own.mc, but that's not really hard, since theres lots of.mc files you can use in/usr/share/sendmail.
Also, it strikes me that lots of the anti-sendmail crowd got modpoints today. They are clearly on crack.
That's strange. When I set up a milter to do virus checking, when the configuration is faulty, sendmail sends back an 44x error to the sending mta, which means it has to try again (and it will, ESMTP demands it).
if you lost mail, then it's not the fault of sendmail, but the fault of your virus checker. Sendmail is obsessive about NOT losing mail.
Again, more FUD from the postfix, qmail and exim fanboys.
Slashdot Mirror
(which again shows that the patenting process currently is flawed beyond belief)
*runs away, ducks for cover*
(DISCLAIMER: I'm a FreeBSD user. This post is a joke. Please don't take it seriously)
Like I care. Playing in a metal band for a couple of years have busted my ears up good enough for me not to notice :)
I appreciate Samba, especially with the PDC stuff that obviates the need for costly NT server licenses here at the $workplace. Great to see that a hack that was born out of need is running circles around the cream of the Borg's crop.
Also, I agree with the rest that I'd love to see the numbers to back up the claims. Not that it really matters though. With samba you get a real good solution for an infintessimal fraction of the price of the Microsoft malware :)
Never. I use FreeBSD. (*rimshot*)
But since we're talking init here, having a plaform agnostic init procedure that could parralellize tasks while booting, and have some clue when some service is done starting, so it can kickstart the one depending on it, would be a boon to have on any OS that wants to behave like UNIX.
For servers, sure, the old init works just fine, but being able to boot quickly would be nice for kernel developers.
You meddle with pointers in kernelspace, you panic, you debug, and ultimately: reboot. Happens more often than you think if you're meddling with that kinda stuff.
Oh, and some users I'd just loooove to experience. They are of my opposite sex and perty.
Hmm, somehow I think that's not what you mean :)
Matt already wrote a SHITLOAD of code for DragonFly. He already overhauled the threading in the kernel, and put in a totally new slab allocator. Right now he's overhauling the namecache system.
Also, the DragonFly gang are doing chores nobody in the official FreeBSD camp cares enough about, like removal of __P(), removal of the 'register' keyword and ANSIfication of old K&R code. Of course we'll be seeing those efforts back in the other BSDs.
These changes that Matt and his merry gang of hackers are making are changes that would never be accepted by the FreeBSD deities with a commit bit,because they're intrusive. Hence the reason Matt forked off DragonFly.
He never left FreeBSD, dammit. Get over it.
Interesting. Using the connection latency of a connection to the RIAA webserver to store your favorite Britney Spears (bleagh) mp3s. Sure, man. But strictly academicly, right? :)
A: Oh, I'm just storing data temporarily.
Seriously, the idea is interesting, but I doubt that many network operators will like the extra network load. It would be interesting to build a SAN in this manner, just for academic's sake ;-)
Oh, and the example with Microsoft's exchange servers made me chuckle. Finally a reliable storage "medium" from Microsoft! Go figure :)
(I mean OSDN of course. Haven't had coffee yet. Gah. I wish slashdot would let me edit posts. I even previewed.)
No, they'll find the charred remains of the OSDL serverpark, and after years of research to decypher our arcane old language from those primitive magnetic disks, they found out that Timothy made a dupe post on slashdot again.
*ducks* *runs away*
But you are right. For multimedia purposes, BeOS is really well suited. It's one of the few OS'es I know that can smoothly play 8 (probably more) avi's at the same time on modest hardware :)
Also, nice to see something Europe-centric on slashdot :) (Guess what, I'm European, woohoo). Guess I gotta have a look-see and maybe exersize the ole creditcard for one.
I believe that Murphy's law happened to Murphy's law, since almost EVERYONE interprets it wrong. Check your local jargon file.
The moderators are on crack. To understand this joke, take a good look at the parent post and turn your monitor upside down, or go stand on your head. And yeah, it pretty much murphy-related.
Anyway, KDE runs just fine on my 4.9 PRERELEASE laptop. Fetching the packages as we speak. Yay portupgrade! :)
You could say I shouldn't enlist on such things, but development on open source stuff pretty much demands that you give your mail address to the general public in order to receive patches and whatnot.
So, we have to live with the spam, or try really hard to blokc it. Losing this dns based blacklist is a shame. And I think blacklisting the world is just an antisocial thing to do. He could have just shut down the DNS server and have stuff time out or fail (NXDOMAIN). If he just killed his nameserver, we wouldn't have this problem with mail being rejected.
Yep, and spammers abuse that a lot. That's why I block every mail that doesn't conme from a DNS certified MX. It might not keep all the spam out, but it certainly does help
that's novrfy without the space. Slashdot just loooooves munging configuration lines up. *grmbl*
I use it to generate html/php pages, for instance. Instead of shooting it down, try researching it before you badmouth it. m4 is actually pretty nice.
Also, using m4 is soo much more easier and less error prone.
Moderate this up. It cuts straight through the FUD from the qmail/postfix/exim fanboys.
I _NEVER_ touch the .cf. Never never never. Creating a sendmail.cf on e.g. FreeBSD requires no more knowlegde than how to run 'make' in /etc/mail. You don't even _need_ to mess with m4. NetBSD does the same. OpenBSD however requires you to make your own .mc, but that's not really hard, since theres lots of .mc files you can use in /usr/share/sendmail.
Also, it strikes me that lots of the anti-sendmail crowd got modpoints today. They are clearly on crack.
if you lost mail, then it's not the fault of sendmail, but the fault of your virus checker. Sendmail is obsessive about NOT losing mail.
Again, more FUD from the postfix, qmail and exim fanboys.
But if sendmail is the security nightmare everyone claims it is, why isn't OpenBSD a heap of swiss cheese then?