Linus is closet q player.. Dave taylor runs quake on Windows, Linus on Linux.. 667 TM 5400... Makes a joke that if he loses its not the OS... Linus bites it..
Runs really GOOD!! and FAST!
Linus bites it again.
Dave starts making fun of Linus !! Bites it again..
Jim Chapman.. Marketing.
Intel/Cyrix..
left cyrix in 1996
2 lines Emerging internet appliance. existing mobile market.
mobile pc's focus on sub 4lb machine. 2 spindle hdd, dvd/cdrom lightweight 1 spindle > 3lb's
fastest growing segment 80/90% dev on type product.. user lightweight/better battery
3lb single spindle == viao short battery life.
highest quality entern... longest battery life in apps.. 4x/5x's less battery usage. less thermal solution reduces weight and cost.
dvd machines in slim form uses no more then 2hours in dvd mode..
mobile 17% crusoe to improve batter, weight, preformance.. new thinner form factors... in the hands of the leading mobile makers in mid year..
Mobile inet device.
market neeeds standard.. uses linux as logicla chouce. low power x86 compat..
between 500 - 1000 dollars.
no way to get low power before crusoe. can get linux in rom.
Transmeta:
End product enhancing end user considerate industry growth
original r&d add value throught software hardware optimized.
two memory controllers.
--- i can stop this since the transcript is in #transmeta..
Morphs x86 into VLIW instru. Registers and other X86 Tech is done in software.
Simple fast, low power processor..
code morphin'
Translates x86 pc apps to vliw instructions Generates x86 to vliw, optimizes, puts in translation cache that is hidden and only the processor knows of it.
only what is used is translated, done on the fly.. keeps programs in translation cache to aid in morphing on the fly.
learn and optimize.
Analyzing the x86 app that is running and optimizes the top code. register renaming, reordering.
software can optimize like in the compiler
20 X86 Instructions--> 10 vliw instructions removes useless code to get better preformance and lower power.
benchmarked on a windowing environment.
shows video with fast windowing environment.. translation doesn't get in the way.
P3 Playing DVD 105.5 C
Crusoe Playing DVD with Translation. 48.2 C
Thermal solutions are draining the Mobile battery, and crusoe puts out less heat, less thermal solution == less battery..
LongRun Technology in Code Morphing adjusts power consumption to match needs of the application and uses the lowest power required.
700 Mhz at 1.6V bumps down the MHZ then the V's
Can make the analysis on a frame by frame basis ( example used is playing a DVD ).
700 Mhz uses 1.65V is 100% then the processor goes to 400 Mhz using 1.4 Vs then down to 333Mhz at 1.2v. Thats only using 25% of the processor.
Introduced new Benchmark Methodolgy:
1. Benchmark on a real APPLICATION 2. Measure battery AFTER the app is run 3. Combine the two for the score.
Demo Crusoe on Linux with Linus.. be back in 30mins.
.. the other research projects? if you look at the Functional Reactive Animation pages.. under the notes you will find..
"Fran works with Windows only. You'll need DirectX version 3 or better. I recommend that you get the latest version if you have Windows 95 or 98, or NT 5.0. DirectX 3 works with NT 4.0 if you have Service pack 3 installed (available via the DirectX 5 page). My plan for Unix, etc., is to wait until DirectX is running there (in the works, but I don't know any of the details)."
.. the page does say that it was just update 4 days ago....
i'll definetly sign up for that dev program. i wonder what the minimum requirements for the system are? if the kernel is only 100kb what the hell has mikeysoft put in thiers?
now if we all can convince them to open up the dev project this would be damn cool.. expand wine to run native nt products alongside reqular windoze apps.
Of course you all realize that the only way to really solve this problem is to have Bill and Linus sit down be givin each an identical machine, there os of choose and have each one install and tweak and then have a testing company, preferably one that wasn't paid off, test the machines and see who comes out on top. That of course being that each of the head honchos know about there respected os enough to be able to configure them. Bill Gates should know all about NT since thats what he talks about now-a-days, and we all know Linus knows Linux..
they could release the win9x source instead of the nt kernel!
if they actually do release the nt kernel source.. it would be interesting to see what would come of it. this is of course barring that the eula isn't totally restrictive ( of course it will be ) and that its just the straight kernel with no hooks for integration ( ie4, ie5 needed to compile ) and such. to be able to clean it up and create an Open-NT.
well one could dream, but since this will never happen.. back to recompiling my kernel here.
well if they are gonna release the tools, wouldn't that mean that joe programmer will have the ability to code his own psx2 games or tools? imagine the possibilities.. how cool. xbill for psx2:)
HEY! i like pro wrestling, because when someone jumps off the top of a steel cage and lands on a wooden desk, YOU KNOOOOOW thats gotta hurt. i like Springer for the above reason also. as for late night infomercials. THEY ARE GREATEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD! i mean come on, like you've never sat there and watched the Mr T. gold cleaning set and said to yourself, " BOY! that would be pretty darn useful!" Or when Lorenna Bobbit first started to sell her cutlery i'm suuure you weren't sitting there next to the phone saying to yourself, " GREAT GRAVY! they can cut through anything!" The point i'm trying to make is this one . isn't that a great point to make? here i'll do it again . oh yeah! feeeeel the love.
i work down the street from networksolutions. they are laying new cable all down that road.. i drive by the building everytime i goto the postoffice or burger king.
i consider beos3 and 4 seperate since i like beos. i also have a win3.1 partition but i didn't put that down since win95 crap pretty much makes up for it.. because when you get down to it.. win9x is nothing more then win3.1 with a new interface..
well i saw one up here in the northern va area at a computer show, and i was looking for a case and this guy that was selling them, was selling them cheap, so i bought one. let me just say.. THEY SUCK!! i hate the two button at, atx config, and don't get me started on the freakin' door that kept wanting to break off.. i was so pissed and drenched in kerosine and promptly burned it.. it was lovely.. went back to my lovely beige case. you don't know you miss it until you set your new case on fire.
"this message has been designed for the thinking impaired."
anyone know if she is single:) yummy! me loves smart young girls:)
matrices.. man, brings back memories.. we tried something similar in encryption in college but it never panned out so we wrote a cheap compression algo that did nothing but looked like it did..
Slashdot Mirror
Linus is closet q player..
Dave taylor runs quake on Windows, Linus on Linux..
667 TM 5400...
Makes a joke that if he loses its not the OS...
Linus bites it..
Runs really GOOD!! and FAST!
Linus bites it again.
Dave starts making fun of Linus !!
Bites it again..
Jim Chapman.. Marketing.
Intel/Cyrix..
left cyrix in 1996
2 lines
Emerging internet appliance.
existing mobile market.
mobile pc's focus on sub 4lb machine.
2 spindle hdd, dvd/cdrom
lightweight
1 spindle > 3lb's
fastest growing segment 80/90% dev on type product..
user lightweight/better battery
3lb single spindle == viao short battery life.
highest quality entern...
longest battery life in apps..
4x/5x's less battery usage.
less thermal solution reduces weight and cost.
dvd machines in slim form uses no more then 2hours in dvd mode..
mobile 17% crusoe to improve batter, weight, preformance.. new thinner form factors...
in the hands of the leading mobile makers in mid year..
Mobile inet device.
market neeeds standard..
uses linux as logicla chouce.
low power
x86 compat..
between 500 - 1000 dollars.
no way to get low power before crusoe.
can get linux in rom.
Transmeta:
End product enhancing
end user considerate
industry growth
original r&d
add value throught software
hardware optimized.
two memory controllers.
--- i can stop this since the transcript is in #transmeta..
3120
Targeted for internet mobile device.
400Mhz, L1 Cache
Integrated NorthBridge.
5400
Runs Windows/Applications.
700 Mhz, L1 128k, l2 256k
DDR Memory Controller.
Morphs x86 into VLIW instru.
Registers and other X86 Tech is done in software.
Simple fast, low power processor..
code morphin'
Translates x86 pc apps to vliw instructions
Generates x86 to vliw, optimizes, puts in translation cache that is hidden and only the processor knows of it.
only what is used is translated, done on the fly.. keeps programs in translation cache to aid in morphing on the fly.
learn and optimize.
Analyzing the x86 app that is running and optimizes the top code.
register renaming, reordering.
software can optimize like in the compiler
20 X86 Instructions--> 10 vliw instructions
removes useless code to get better preformance and lower power.
benchmarked on a windowing environment.
shows video with fast windowing environment.. translation doesn't get in the way.
P3 Playing DVD
105.5 C
Crusoe Playing DVD with Translation.
48.2 C
Thermal solutions are draining the Mobile battery, and crusoe puts out less heat, less thermal solution == less battery..
LongRun Technology in Code Morphing adjusts power consumption to match needs of the application and uses the lowest power required.
700 Mhz at 1.6V bumps down the MHZ then the V's
Can make the analysis on a frame by frame basis ( example used is playing a DVD ).
700 Mhz uses 1.65V is 100% then the processor goes to 400 Mhz using 1.4 Vs then down to 333Mhz
at 1.2v. Thats only using 25% of the processor.
Introduced new Benchmark Methodolgy:
1. Benchmark on a real APPLICATION
2. Measure battery AFTER the app is run
3. Combine the two for the score.
Demo Crusoe on Linux with Linus.. be back in 30mins.
so far he has showed two vers of Crusoe. One is a 400 MHZ version for handhelds and other smaller mobiles.
there is a 700Mhz version for Notebook size mobiles. All have X86 compatibility and only use 1 Watt of POWER!
more and more this product is becoming focused on the internet.
Crusoe supports:
1. Full PC Architecture
2. Runs all X86 Operating Systems
3. 100% X86 Application Compatiblity
4. Run WEB BROWSER & Plugins
Crusoe uses very little power. 20 miliwatts of power in STANDBY MODE.
Crusoe's low power offers what people want.
Long Battery Life
Low Weight and new Form Factors
Rid of noisy fans
Transmeta hired Marc Allen to help run Transmeta.
Now going over background of Transmeta...
this processor can play q3?!? oh hell yea!
.. the other research projects? if you look at the Functional Reactive Animation pages.. under the notes you will find ..
.. the page does say that it was just update 4 days ago....
"Fran works with Windows only. You'll need DirectX version 3 or better. I recommend that you get the latest version if you have Windows 95 or 98, or NT 5.0. DirectX 3 works with NT 4.0 if you have Service pack 3 installed (available via the DirectX 5 page). My plan for Unix, etc., is to wait until DirectX is running there (in the works, but I don't know any of the details)."
.. the other research projects?
if you look at the Functional Reactive
I've also seen entire bank on OS/2. Nationsbank.. well Bank of America now.. where i used to live was all IBM and OS/2.. really cool
Does anyone know if they took it down, or if it was
all i gotta say is about F'N TIME!
now i can convert my network over..
i'll definetly sign up for that dev program. i wonder what the minimum requirements for the system are? if the kernel is only 100kb what the hell has mikeysoft put in thiers?
now if we all can convince them to open up the dev project this would be damn cool.. expand wine to run native nt products alongside reqular windoze apps.
-lordvdr
"Linux is not portable" - Linus Torvalds
Of course you all realize that the only way to really solve this problem is to have Bill and Linus sit down be givin each an identical machine, there os of choose and have each one install and tweak and then have a testing company, preferably one that wasn't paid off, test the machines and see who comes out on top. That of course being that each of the head honchos know about there respected os enough to be able to configure them. Bill Gates should know all about NT since thats what he talks about now-a-days, and we all know Linus knows Linux..
my 3 cents
they could release the win9x source instead of the nt kernel!
if they actually do release the nt kernel source.. it would be interesting to see what would come of it. this is of course barring that the eula isn't totally restrictive ( of course it will be ) and that its just the straight kernel with no hooks for integration ( ie4, ie5 needed to compile ) and such. to be able to clean it up and create an Open-NT.
well one could dream, but since this will never happen.. back to recompiling my kernel here.
micros~1 --- HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! gotta love
lfn converted to 8.3!!
well if they are gonna release the tools, wouldn't that mean that joe programmer will have the ability to code his own psx2 games or tools? imagine the possibilities.. how cool. xbill for psx2
"Prozac, because it works!"
HEY! i like pro wrestling, because when someone jumps off the top of a steel cage and lands on a wooden desk, YOU KNOOOOOW thats gotta hurt. i like Springer for the above reason also. as for late night infomercials. THEY ARE GREATEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD! i mean come on, like you've never sat there and watched the Mr T. gold cleaning set and said to yourself, " BOY! that would be pretty darn useful!" Or when Lorenna Bobbit first started to sell her cutlery i'm suuure you weren't sitting there next to the phone saying to yourself, " GREAT GRAVY! they can cut through anything!" The point i'm trying to make is this one . isn't that a great point to make? here i'll do it again . oh yeah! feeeeel the love.
.lrdvdr.
" Prozac, because it works! "
i work down the street from networksolutions.
they are laying new cable all down that road..
i drive by the building everytime i goto the
postoffice or burger king.
you too!!
1. linux
2. beos 3
3. win95
4. winnt4
5. beos 4
6. os/2
i consider beos3 and 4 seperate since i like beos. i also have a win3.1 partition but i didn't put that down since win95 crap pretty much makes up for it
.vader
i don't about you.. but the link looks live to me..
lrdvdr
well i saw one up here in the northern va area at a computer show, and i was looking for a case and this guy that was selling them, was selling them cheap, so i bought one. let me just say.. THEY SUCK!! i hate the two button at, atx config, and don't get me started on the freakin' door that kept wanting to break off.. i was so pissed and drenched in kerosine and promptly burned it.. it was lovely.. went back to my lovely beige case. you don't know you miss it until you set your new case on fire.
"this message has been designed for the thinking impaired."
anyone know if she is single
matrices.. man, brings back memories.. we tried something similar in encryption in college but it never panned out so we wrote a cheap compression algo that did nothing but looked like it did..
skrezatch