I learned on Apple's, IBM PC AT & XT, and some C64 for spice. I did not get to the really juicy stuff until the mid 1990s when I worked for a pharma consulting company. We used to get mag-reels from the pharma companies to pull our data from. They were still using 10-15 year old tech and everyone that did business with them had to use it too.
I evidently did misunderstand the statement, and I was not aware of GTUBE. The analogy of "chairs and doorknobs" is where I got confused. EICAR is used to test if your scanner can identify a known standard "hunk of input" as a virus. GTUBE evidently does the same thing for SPAM. I was attempting to point out that it was a jumping off point for consenus of what was a "chair" vs "doorknob".
I was actually wondering what you were referring to with the "spam jig" statement.
Is this akin to the virus scanning API (VSAPI aka VAPI aka AVAPI) used by virus scanners and Exchange?
I have wondered why the virus scanning software companies have not gotten together to create an interface for that. I would expect the UCE and SPAM filtration industry to use the same interface or to develop a standard of their own.
Having said that, I know that I (and I would guess most people) do not make my email server choices based on the AntiVirus or AntiSPAM software, but that would be a selling point if I knew that the email softare would work with any standards compliant AntiVirus or AntiSPAM software.
I am assuming this is the case for companies other than those I have worked for or with.
Most of the web devs I have worked with have been lazy. I would point out that their code did not work with Netscape (standard at the time) and they would reply that, "IE comes with Windows, so everyone has it." I would mention w3c standards compliance, thinking that someone would want to keep the work they do up to recent standards, and they would reply, "w3c?"
I have been fortunate to know web devs who cared about their work, but they have been few and far between.
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ROFL "fuck it" is right!
When people start arguing about Pokemon ripping off Magic or vice versa, I have to laugh. It's like arguing if one is a "trekkie" or "trekker". Either way, you're still a big geek, and so am I.
I never caught the Magic bug, but I still have boxes of my old D&D stuff, so I guess I have to laugh at myself too. "No! You can't make a saving throw against petrification of the basilisk because of its +5 sneak stare attack!" LOL
How long will it take for HP to start really hacking up the company to finish the "de-Fiorina" process?
Printing is still their biggest business, but they also do a solid business in corporate Windows servers. Which of the other business groups will get chopped? Consulting? Digital cameras?
I'll agree with you on the V8. Until I got my current car, I could really tell the difference when the AC was on. Now that I drive a tank with a hood ornament (91 MB 560SEL), I can barely tell the difference. I only notice it when I really floor it at already good speeds, like going around a 18-wheeler at 75-80 mph.
My old car was a 94 Subaru Justy. Those that have driven them, love them. You could feel the sluggishness if you had the AC on, or if you put two passengers in it for that matter.
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One of my college professors in materials science, that retired from Bell Labs to teach, used to say, "I'm pretty sure this is how it works, but I'm not positive. If anyone tells you he is positive, he's either lying, or not smart enough to check that the underlying facts are actually suppositions."
He once told us that he didn't really know how resistors worked, but he did know that if he manufactured them using certain materials in a certain process, he could get resistors that were a certain number of ohms. Today resistors are manfactured all over the world pretty much the same way, but the methods were derived from trial and error, and not some deeper understanding and equations for making the best resistor.
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Slashdot has editors? Although the banner has the word News on it, it's not quite journalism.
Then again, most newspapers just reprint stuff from the AP and other sources. Hmmm.
Maybe Slashdot is a legit journal and news agency. If so, I expect the highest quality and standards of journalistic integrity from the editors and writers. Slashback can now be used for retractions and appologies for all the mistakes and re-posts of old articles and grammar mistakes and...
When did the "Code Red" worm come out? July 2001? I consulting and setting up an Exchange 2000 server that summer at a client site and asked them what kind of firewall they had right before we started. They said, "Firewall?", and I said, "Oh $h!+". I built it offline and got whatever service pack and patches I had on CD loaded on the box. I plugged it in to WindowsUpdate and it was dead before the page started downloading the first update. I had to download all the patches to my laptop (fully patched of course) and then floppy them to the offline rebuilt Exchange server.
The funniest part is that they still would not take my recommendation about getting a firewall. They thought I was trying to get more consulting for myself.
"Penny wise. Pound foolish." is such an understatement.
I gotta say that I am more likely to report my employer to the BSA on the way out the door, than I am to the proper authorities. I have been on the right and wrong side of the law and it's hard to be believed when you are already labeled "criminal" before the trial starts.
I know it might not be what you are asking for, but I have an old P2 with 400GB of storage in it. No need for a full server, just *nix and Samba for the Windows clients. The P2 was a throw away, so it was free, so the only thing I paid for was the PCI SATA card and the drives.
I've been in the "all the guys that know this are out today" position and it isn't pretty. I've also been "the guy on vacation" and that isn't pretty either, because my cell phone rings while I'm eating lunch with my family and it's a big emergency because no one knows how to troubleshoot a DNS or email problem. All the IT staff at my company are mostly MS with a dash of Cisco for flavor. The problem with that is, we have three freebsd servers running several websites, external DNS, and email virus scanning. Any problem with these, is my problem. No one has taken any initiative to learn the environment and I am looking for a job closer to home. They are probably going to bring in a consultant to take over until they find someone that is cross-skilled in *nix and windows, but I would not hold my breath for that. They are better off just phasing out the bsd in favor of windows. I know it is the wrong choice but they have already proven themselves to be lazy.
When you indicate something is "easily reproducable", do you mean physically reproducible by any person that needs it? I think I'm pretty good with hardware but I would be hard pressed to put together something like a 3490 data cartridge reader from scratch. Sure an engineer (or even assembly line worker) from IBM can make them, but what happens in 100 years when they are all dead? And even if we have the infomation on how to build it, how long would it take to do so?
I tried to build a wax cylinder phonograph as a project in high school and it took me months. I even had historical schematics from the Thomas Edison museum. Even then it was still crap.
The funny part about medical test data on 9-track tape is that the pharmaceutical industry was still using it in the early 1990s. I worked for a company that crunched numbers for pharma companies and we used to get boxes of 9-track and some (newer) 3480 and 3490 cartridges. EBCDIC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBCDIC/ format and FUN FUN FUN!
Gotta agree with this. I change my facial hair (look? design?) and the color of my hair every few months. I've been doing it long enough that people that know me are just amused. I went from bleach blonde, to red, to bald in a month and most of the comments are how my wife and children feel about it. I tell them that my family doesn't know me any other way, so change is the norm.
I had a group of people in accounting howling with laughter after they attempted to tease me about my red hair. I told them that, confidentially, the president of the company dyes her hair too.
That said, I have a job to make money, and I love what I do. I can't say that I get very attached to companies as much as the people that work there. If the people that work there can't deal with my hair, then I think they care more about my looks than they care about my work.
Either way, I've got that whole eccentric computer geek thing down. I was hired by a companya and told afterword that I was hired because I looked like "a hacker" and they wanted one around in case they "got hacked". Most people just ask my opinion about what computer to buy their kid. Sometimes the stereotype can work to your advantage.;)
Or at least they used to. I worked at Bell Labs in 1997 and one of my co-workers was escorted out of the building by security. He was discussing one of his projects with someone that he went to grad school with via email. It's not like he was selling info to a rival company, but he broke is confidentiality agreement and they fired him.
What's funny about this is that I told him they recorded every keystroke on the UNIX boxes (no one used Windows except for Word and Excel) and that they had a visible and hidden copy of the log file so they could compare. They probably had a third, but I only found the first two.
In today's companies, I find it amusing that they would claim to hire people to sift through outgoing email. My company won't hire people to train internal staff to do their jobs. Instead they pay people to correct the mistakes. It's a joke.
I've had to read peoples' emails when HR asks for emails related to a specific topic (usually legal), and I can tell you it's like washing someone else's laundry: it's voyueristic at first, but after a while, it's just dirty laundry.
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CmdrTaco - "Do you smell something?"
CowboyNeal - "Oh Sh*t! The slashcode server's on fire!"
ROFL
I have to admit I have never seen one of those.
I learned on Apple's, IBM PC AT & XT, and some C64 for spice. I did not get to the really juicy stuff until the mid 1990s when I worked for a pharma consulting company. We used to get mag-reels from the pharma companies to pull our data from. They were still using 10-15 year old tech and everyone that did business with them had to use it too.
Thank you,
I now have a new sig...
Imitation is flattery, sincerely.
I evidently did misunderstand the statement, and I was not aware of GTUBE. The analogy of "chairs and doorknobs" is where I got confused. EICAR is used to test if your scanner can identify a known standard "hunk of input" as a virus. GTUBE evidently does the same thing for SPAM. I was attempting to point out that it was a jumping off point for consenus of what was a "chair" vs "doorknob".
Maybe an eicar http://www.eicar.org/ like standard should be created for testing purposes?
I was actually wondering what you were referring to with the "spam jig" statement.
Is this akin to the virus scanning API (VSAPI aka VAPI aka AVAPI) used by virus scanners and Exchange?
I have wondered why the virus scanning software companies have not gotten together to create an interface for that. I would expect the UCE and SPAM filtration industry to use the same interface or to develop a standard of their own.
Having said that, I know that I (and I would guess most people) do not make my email server choices based on the AntiVirus or AntiSPAM software, but that would be a selling point if I knew that the email softare would work with any standards compliant AntiVirus or AntiSPAM software.
I wanted to meet Angelina Jolie... I should have become a cambodian orphan instead.
Why do you think you hear the humming when the flying saucers come down?
Peanut Butter!
And these tiny little transitors things that computer geeks always talk about.
WINGS!!!
LOL!
I am assuming this is the case for companies other than those I have worked for or with.
Most of the web devs I have worked with have been lazy. I would point out that their code did not work with Netscape (standard at the time) and they would reply that, "IE comes with Windows, so everyone has it." I would mention w3c standards compliance, thinking that someone would want to keep the work they do up to recent standards, and they would reply, "w3c?"
I have been fortunate to know web devs who cared about their work, but they have been few and far between.
Don't dog the moderators... it's bad juju.
I dogged the moderators once... once.
ROFL "fuck it" is right!
When people start arguing about Pokemon ripping off Magic or vice versa, I have to laugh. It's like arguing if one is a "trekkie" or "trekker". Either way, you're still a big geek, and so am I.
I never caught the Magic bug, but I still have boxes of my old D&D stuff, so I guess I have to laugh at myself too. "No! You can't make a saving throw against petrification of the basilisk because of its +5 sneak stare attack!" LOL
How long will it take for HP to start really hacking up the company to finish the "de-Fiorina" process?
Printing is still their biggest business, but they also do a solid business in corporate Windows servers. Which of the other business groups will get chopped? Consulting? Digital cameras?
I'll agree with you on the V8. Until I got my current car, I could really tell the difference when the AC was on. Now that I drive a tank with a hood ornament (91 MB 560SEL), I can barely tell the difference. I only notice it when I really floor it at already good speeds, like going around a 18-wheeler at 75-80 mph.
My old car was a 94 Subaru Justy. Those that have driven them, love them. You could feel the sluggishness if you had the AC on, or if you put two passengers in it for that matter.
One of my college professors in materials science, that retired from Bell Labs to teach, used to say, "I'm pretty sure this is how it works, but I'm not positive. If anyone tells you he is positive, he's either lying, or not smart enough to check that the underlying facts are actually suppositions."
He once told us that he didn't really know how resistors worked, but he did know that if he manufactured them using certain materials in a certain process, he could get resistors that were a certain number of ohms. Today resistors are manfactured all over the world pretty much the same way, but the methods were derived from trial and error, and not some deeper understanding and equations for making the best resistor.
Slashdot has editors? Although the banner has the word News on it, it's not quite journalism.
;p
Then again, most newspapers just reprint stuff from the AP and other sources. Hmmm.
Maybe Slashdot is a legit journal and news agency. If so, I expect the highest quality and standards of journalistic integrity from the editors and writers. Slashback can now be used for retractions and appologies for all the mistakes and re-posts of old articles and grammar mistakes and...
Hey... where'd my Karma go?
When did the "Code Red" worm come out? July 2001? I consulting and setting up an Exchange 2000 server that summer at a client site and asked them what kind of firewall they had right before we started. They said, "Firewall?", and I said, "Oh $h!+". I built it offline and got whatever service pack and patches I had on CD loaded on the box. I plugged it in to WindowsUpdate and it was dead before the page started downloading the first update. I had to download all the patches to my laptop (fully patched of course) and then floppy them to the offline rebuilt Exchange server.
The funniest part is that they still would not take my recommendation about getting a firewall. They thought I was trying to get more consulting for myself.
"Penny wise. Pound foolish." is such an understatement.
I gotta say that I am more likely to report my employer to the BSA on the way out the door, than I am to the proper authorities. I have been on the right and wrong side of the law and it's hard to be believed when you are already labeled "criminal" before the trial starts.
I know it might not be what you are asking for, but I have an old P2 with 400GB of storage in it. No need for a full server, just *nix and Samba for the Windows clients. The P2 was a throw away, so it was free, so the only thing I paid for was the PCI SATA card and the drives.
I've been in the "all the guys that know this are out today" position and it isn't pretty. I've also been "the guy on vacation" and that isn't pretty either, because my cell phone rings while I'm eating lunch with my family and it's a big emergency because no one knows how to troubleshoot a DNS or email problem. All the IT staff at my company are mostly MS with a dash of Cisco for flavor. The problem with that is, we have three freebsd servers running several websites, external DNS, and email virus scanning. Any problem with these, is my problem. No one has taken any initiative to learn the environment and I am looking for a job closer to home. They are probably going to bring in a consultant to take over until they find someone that is cross-skilled in *nix and windows, but I would not hold my breath for that. They are better off just phasing out the bsd in favor of windows. I know it is the wrong choice but they have already proven themselves to be lazy.
When you indicate something is "easily reproducable", do you mean physically reproducible by any person that needs it? I think I'm pretty good with hardware but I would be hard pressed to put together something like a 3490 data cartridge reader from scratch. Sure an engineer (or even assembly line worker) from IBM can make them, but what happens in 100 years when they are all dead? And even if we have the infomation on how to build it, how long would it take to do so?
I tried to build a wax cylinder phonograph as a project in high school and it took me months. I even had historical schematics from the Thomas Edison museum. Even then it was still crap.
The funny part about medical test data on 9-track tape is that the pharmaceutical industry was still using it in the early 1990s. I worked for a company that crunched numbers for pharma companies and we used to get boxes of 9-track and some (newer) 3480 and 3490 cartridges. EBCDIC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBCDIC/ format and FUN FUN FUN!
Gotta agree with this. I change my facial hair (look? design?) and the color of my hair every few months. I've been doing it long enough that people that know me are just amused. I went from bleach blonde, to red, to bald in a month and most of the comments are how my wife and children feel about it. I tell them that my family doesn't know me any other way, so change is the norm.
;)
I had a group of people in accounting howling with laughter after they attempted to tease me about my red hair. I told them that, confidentially, the president of the company dyes her hair too.
That said, I have a job to make money, and I love what I do. I can't say that I get very attached to companies as much as the people that work there. If the people that work there can't deal with my hair, then I think they care more about my looks than they care about my work.
Either way, I've got that whole eccentric computer geek thing down. I was hired by a companya and told afterword that I was hired because I looked like "a hacker" and they wanted one around in case they "got hacked". Most people just ask my opinion about what computer to buy their kid. Sometimes the stereotype can work to your advantage.
Or at least they used to. I worked at Bell Labs in 1997 and one of my co-workers was escorted out of the building by security. He was discussing one of his projects with someone that he went to grad school with via email. It's not like he was selling info to a rival company, but he broke is confidentiality agreement and they fired him.
What's funny about this is that I told him they recorded every keystroke on the UNIX boxes (no one used Windows except for Word and Excel) and that they had a visible and hidden copy of the log file so they could compare. They probably had a third, but I only found the first two.
In today's companies, I find it amusing that they would claim to hire people to sift through outgoing email. My company won't hire people to train internal staff to do their jobs. Instead they pay people to correct the mistakes. It's a joke.
I've had to read peoples' emails when HR asks for emails related to a specific topic (usually legal), and I can tell you it's like washing someone else's laundry: it's voyueristic at first, but after a while, it's just dirty laundry.