If the administration's ideas are good, they will overcome the opposition, and if they are bad then they will die properly.
What in the history of our country makes you think that this ever has or will happen, especially when there is a lot of conflict in government? Bi-partisan 'compromises' often turn a good idea into the retarded half-brother of a good idea.
I already liked the guy, but I'm honestly impressed by this. Any information from the government can be suspected as 'propaganda'. At least this site puts forth their agenda in an easy to navigate, plain English fashion.
As for the 'submit your own idea' functionality, I think it's a great move. Even if they ignore most/all of the suggestions, isn't that the same results as not asking for them in the first place? At worst this is a waste of time and at best it's a huge step forward in citizen understanding of and participation in government.
I've worked in customer support, and I'll tell you that guessing 37 times is a HELL of a lot faster than submitting a service request and waiting for a reply.
Kerry lost by 3 million and Gore from even less. Which doesn't include those who got out of prison but can't vote. Simply make laws that target certain demographics and you've got yourself an election.
Only if you make the false assumption that all the people who voted for Kerry or Gore would have done so anyway if they hadn't campaigned toward them at all.
First of all, I've seen this argument come up on/. many, many times, and it's still as misguided as it ever was. Others have already said this better than I could.
Second... offtopic mods, anyone? We already had the economy discussion, and I believe this one is called "Discuss the US Presidential Election & the War"
Q2: THEN WHAT THE FUCK DID WE DO TO PISS THEM OFF SO MUCH THEY FELT COMPELLED TO FLY PLANES INTO FOUR MAJOR BUILDINGS?
Ooo, ooo! I know! They hate our freedom!
...right?
----- damn your filter, slashdot! I'm trying to quote someone shouting, not shout myself. big difference. hopefully now I can post my comment, but only after ruining any shred of humor left over by having to add all this lowercase type...
You know, honestly, consistency is one of the things I care LEAST about in a candidate. I'd rather take a "flip-flopper" who looks at evidence and modifies his plan of action and opinions according to what would work best at the time than a "decider" who bullheadedly does the same thing over and over even if it stops working.
The media is pretending this race is close because the media is a bunch of morons.
This is easily explained without name calling. They keep saying it's close for two (well, actually three) reasons:
1. People don't want to read/watch if it isn't interesting. If they call it for one party or the other, it's boring. People want conflict, and media these days is all about subscriptions/ratings.
2. If they look at the facts (read: polls) and say "oh, looks like Obama will probably win" too strongly, then the right screams and whines "teh liberal media is biased!!1!"
3. The "Dewey defeats Truman" complex. They don't want to be too confident so that they don't lose face in the, if even unlikely, event they are wrong.
Obviously there are some exceptions, but it seems like number one at least is a strong factor.
P.S. As a Montanan, this makes me smile (though we did go for Clinton -- the first time, anyway):
Over a third of all wage-earners pay no income tax at all. How is this remotely fair?
Do you really know how much low-end third really make in this country? According to wikipedia: "...[in 2006] the bottom 20% [of all households] earned less than $19,178"
Yes, let's tax these peoples income, they're scamming us (sarcasm)!
Have you tried to run a FAMILY on ~20K a year? There's a reason we have the phrase 'working poor' in this country.
Something does not have to be PROVEN to be science. Black holes: not proven; string theory: not proven; inductive-bloody-reasoning: not proven. To be science, it needs to be DIS-provable. Many people are trying to disprove mankind-driven global warming, which is great, but don't go around saying it's not science.
I dunno if that's a good idea, we tried that with Australia and remember what a punishment that was? If we did, there would probably turn out to be hot alien babes who produce beer instead of milk or something, and we'd all have no idea back here on Earth.
Okay, I've had enough. All of this "natural cycle" bullshit has to stop, because it is completely beside the point. Let me tell you a little story about you and me as roommates:
We live in a good sized apartment in a nice climate. Since it is springtime and we keep the window shades open, the apartment warms up nicely during the middle of the day, and cools down at night. This goes on for a few weeks, and everything is peachy. Then, one day, our pet monkey realizes that it can turn the dial on the thermostat, and accidentally cranks it up to 90. When we get home after work in the evening, a conversation ensues:
Me: Goddamn it's hot in here! The hell is going on? You: What do you mean? It always gets hotter in the afternoon. Me: Are you kidding?! I'm sitting in ball soup over here! Something strange must have happened in the last day... Pongo! You: Don't blame the monkey, it's the natural cycle that we've been seeing for the last few weeks, haven't you been paying attention? Besides, Summer should be coming soon, so I'm sure it's bound to warm up some. It'll just cool down nicely tonight, I'm sure. Me: Yeah, but for fucksake the ice in the freezer is starting to melt! I think we should check the thermostat. You: Don't touch that, there's nothing we can do about this. It's just the way the cycle goes. Me: *Pulls out hair*
The government is still holding onto the REAL paperwork that shows what they've been hiding all these years! This stuff they're declassifying is just a distraction....or so the kooks will be saying shortly, if not already.
Right, but Moses was the one who wrote the first few books, according to Christian Mythology. So he would have been the one writing "let there be light" on a tablet, not Abraham.
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What in the history of our country makes you think that this ever has or will happen, especially when there is a lot of conflict in government? Bi-partisan 'compromises' often turn a good idea into the retarded half-brother of a good idea.
I already liked the guy, but I'm honestly impressed by this. Any information from the government can be suspected as 'propaganda'. At least this site puts forth their agenda in an easy to navigate, plain English fashion.
As for the 'submit your own idea' functionality, I think it's a great move. Even if they ignore most/all of the suggestions, isn't that the same results as not asking for them in the first place? At worst this is a waste of time and at best it's a huge step forward in citizen understanding of and participation in government.
I've worked in customer support, and I'll tell you that guessing 37 times is a HELL of a lot faster than submitting a service request and waiting for a reply.
Only if you make the false assumption that all the people who voted for Kerry or Gore would have done so anyway if they hadn't campaigned toward them at all.
You don't pay taxes!?! Please subscribe me to your newsletter.
Citation needed.
...please?
First of all, I've seen this argument come up on /. many, many times, and it's still as misguided as it ever was. Others have already said this better than I could.
Second... offtopic mods, anyone? We already had the economy discussion, and I believe this one is called "Discuss the US Presidential Election & the War"
Google found this first thing: http://www.dvguru.com/2006/11/06/election-day-coverage-streaming-overload/ and that was just a quick search. Does this really need to be a front-page discussion?
Ooo, ooo! I know! They hate our freedom!
...right?
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damn your filter, slashdot! I'm trying to quote someone shouting, not shout myself. big difference. hopefully now I can post my comment, but only after ruining any shred of humor left over by having to add all this lowercase type...
You know, honestly, consistency is one of the things I care LEAST about in a candidate. I'd rather take a "flip-flopper" who looks at evidence and modifies his plan of action and opinions according to what would work best at the time than a "decider" who bullheadedly does the same thing over and over even if it stops working.
This is easily explained without name calling. They keep saying it's close for two (well, actually three) reasons:
1. People don't want to read/watch if it isn't interesting. If they call it for one party or the other, it's boring. People want conflict, and media these days is all about subscriptions/ratings.
2. If they look at the facts (read: polls) and say "oh, looks like Obama will probably win" too strongly, then the right screams and whines "teh liberal media is biased!!1!"
3. The "Dewey defeats Truman" complex. They don't want to be too confident so that they don't lose face in the, if even unlikely, event they are wrong.
Obviously there are some exceptions, but it seems like number one at least is a strong factor.
P.S. As a Montanan, this makes me smile (though we did go for Clinton -- the first time, anyway):
Do you really know how much low-end third really make in this country? According to wikipedia: "...[in 2006] the bottom 20% [of all households] earned less than $19,178"
Yes, let's tax these peoples income, they're scamming us (sarcasm)!
Have you tried to run a FAMILY on ~20K a year? There's a reason we have the phrase 'working poor' in this country.
Umm, no. If you and your wife don't make six figures together, then you would get a tax CUT under Obama's plan
Already +5 Insightful... I hope I'm not too late.
Something does not have to be PROVEN to be science. Black holes: not proven; string theory: not proven; inductive-bloody-reasoning: not proven. To be science, it needs to be DIS-provable. Many people are trying to disprove mankind-driven global warming, which is great, but don't go around saying it's not science.
Vote 30 times = Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A
The Sixties?
Hmmm.. I tried to mod you down, but it went up instead!
Good idea in theory, but one thing: Some elections (i.e. most) have more than TWO candidates!
And The Right is any better?
Precisely! Our giant douche is not _nearly_ as offensive as your turd sandwich.
The Japanese lady was actually charged for fraudulently accessing the guy's account, not for what she did after logging in.
Convict Volunteers?
I dunno if that's a good idea, we tried that with Australia and remember what a punishment that was? If we did, there would probably turn out to be hot alien babes who produce beer instead of milk or something, and we'd all have no idea back here on Earth.
The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems!
Okay, I've had enough. All of this "natural cycle" bullshit has to stop, because it is completely beside the point. Let me tell you a little story about you and me as roommates:
We live in a good sized apartment in a nice climate. Since it is springtime and we keep the window shades open, the apartment warms up nicely during the middle of the day, and cools down at night. This goes on for a few weeks, and everything is peachy. Then, one day, our pet monkey realizes that it can turn the dial on the thermostat, and accidentally cranks it up to 90. When we get home after work in the evening, a conversation ensues:
Me: Goddamn it's hot in here! The hell is going on?
You: What do you mean? It always gets hotter in the afternoon.
Me: Are you kidding?! I'm sitting in ball soup over here! Something strange must have happened in the last day... Pongo!
You: Don't blame the monkey, it's the natural cycle that we've been seeing for the last few weeks, haven't you been paying attention? Besides, Summer should be coming soon, so I'm sure it's bound to warm up some. It'll just cool down nicely tonight, I'm sure.
Me: Yeah, but for fucksake the ice in the freezer is starting to melt! I think we should check the thermostat.
You: Don't touch that, there's nothing we can do about this. It's just the way the cycle goes.
Me: *Pulls out hair*
So you're saying you're a kook?
Right, but Moses was the one who wrote the first few books, according to Christian Mythology. So he would have been the one writing "let there be light" on a tablet, not Abraham.