It is actually illegal to hunt while intoxicated or have alcohol in your possession in Minnesota. The beers stay back at camp as it is nice to have a couple of beers around the fire after dinner, and yes I do mean 1 or 2 beers, and a cigar then it is off to bed so we can be in the stands at about 4 AM.
I have never been a fan of hunting for trophies, or "hunting" on a game farm. It isn't sporting it is a waste and it gives people a bad impression of hunters. I have probably come home empty handed more often than I have successful. When I hunt I have every intention of consuming that animal and I don't want it to suffer or have the bad kill. An animal that being chased and in pain is tense and pumped full of adrenaline which don't make for good eating. I also don't want to spend hours following a blood trail that is a drop of blood hear or there and then not be able to find the animal.
Around in my area the animal lovers thing all hunting is cruel because the [animal in season] is such a majestic creature. My wife's family use to think like that until my wife and here mother smashed a large buck in a Mercury Grand Marquis at 60 MPH. Every year there are people decrying the barbaric practice of hunting wild game in the paper. Even some of my wife's relatives give me a hard time about taking wild game yet they still eat meat but it has to be free range and organic. I don't think they really understand what free range means as the deer, bear (still haven't managed to get one of these), pheasant, grouse, and rabbit I hunt are much more free range than anything they are buying. I also have relatives who live in Colorado and the animal lovers there have a similar view, they love the animals and don't want hunters until they hit one their car or it eats their garden and then they call my uncle out there and he hunts deer from their porch with his muzzle loader.
When I take game I am always trying to take it in the quickest most humane way. I practice shooting (I can consistently hit pop cans at a quarter mile with my deer and bear rifle), I know where I have to shoot to get the quick clean kill, I use the appropriate type of ammunition (203gr soft point for deer and bear, #2 to #4 steel shot for pheasant and grouse, 122gr hollow point for rabbit), I will immediately retrieve and clean the animals so they don't spoil (I have a cooler with ice in it back at the vehicle when small game hunting). The deer I got this year was a very quick clean kill with the shot going trough the heart and 1 lung and the deer only made it another 20 yards. From the time I shot it until it was at the butcher was less than 3 hours with a little over 1 hour drive to the processor and I had to clean it and drag it a half mile out of the woods. The same holds true with other in my hunting party, hunting stops for everyone until the game is retrieved, cleaned and on its way, we all help out. One year we spent over an hour looking for a pheasant that we shot and were using 5 dogs, we did retrieve it. I don't want it to go to waste and at the moment with the meat I have the best thing I can do is create the best tasting food I can with it
The preferred firearm for taking birds that size are a.410 shotgun which are typically a single shot or double barrel breach loaders with a very limited effective range made worse by using very fine shot (probably #7 to #9 shot). Those small birds are actually fairly difficult to hit as you have to be close and at those distances they tend to have a high angular velocity. They provide very little meat but from what I understand they are fairly tasty as I had a coworker who use to hunt mourning doves in PA when he was younger. Personally I don't hunt pigeons or doves as they aren't worth the effort as you do get so little meat. I have found pheasant and grouse hunting to be more difficult than deer or bear hunting as the birds will flush very near to you and you have to raise the gun, take the safety off, and aim before the bird gets out of range. In the case of pheasants you also have to identify if it is a hen or rooster as you can only take roosters, but with grouse you are the woods and may have to other obstacles preventing you from taking the shot. I also would never hunt at a game farm where you are guaranteed to see birds that you paid for. Last year during pheasant season I only saw 1 rooster and didn't get a shot at it as I would have been shooting right at one of my hunting buddies, I did see lots of hens and probably walked 20 miles a day in fields the few times I made it out.
This is one where the law would vary be location but my understanding is that it is highly likely in Minnesota that the hunters would be in the clear legally. According to Minnesota law:
1. The activists were interfering and harassing hunters who were attempting to take legal game. This is illegal in Minnesota.
2. The road in question was a dirt road. I haven't seen it but it is entirely possible that in Minnesota this road would have been classed as an unimproved road and as such it is legal to shoot from or over it.
3. The hunters were on private land. You have a lot of leeway on private land but probably not as much as some people think. This is where the hunters might have trouble, but that depends on the law. At worst they would probably get brought up on a destruction of property charge but that might get tossed based off of the local trespass laws.
4. Also depending on the local trespass laws the activists could be brought up on trespassing charges.
These is how I would see this if it happened in Minnesota where I know the rules and regulations for hunting but I don't know the South Carolina laws and regulations so I don't know how it would pan out there. If in a similar situation I wouldn't have handled it this way as it seems like what the hunters did was really dumb but probably not illegal.
Maybe. I haven't seen the road (video is blocked at work) but from what understand that road in Minnesota may be classes as an unimproved road in which case it would be legal to shoot from or over. I don't know the laws in South Carolina but I would imagine that they have somewhat similar laws in this area but without knowing I couldn't be sure. What the hunters did was stupid but it may not have been illegal.
Reminds me of when I was little (about 5 or so) and for some reason thought it would be a good idea to pull the family dog's tail while it was eating. The dog gave me a little nip and barked quite loud, I ended up with a scratch and went crying to my dad about how the dog bit me. My dad's response was don't pull the dogs tail.
That bring up an interesting question that would vary by state law, as I don't know if by shooting in that direction the hunters violated any laws. In Minnesota it is illegal to shoot from or over an improved road but the unimproved roads you can hunt from and shoot over. Now without know the exact South Carolina hunting regulations and without knowing how that specific road was classed I can't say if the hunters violated any law by shooting in the direction of the road.
I don't know what the laws are in South Carolina but I bet they activists could be brought up on other charges as well. I would assume that SC has a similar law to Minnesota where it is illegal to interfere with the legal taking of game(p. 23 second paragraph from the bottom).
Also depending on the state law they may have committed a criminal offense. In Minnesota it is illegal to interfere with the legal taking of game so I would assume that if South Carolina has a similar law the activists would be in violation of that as well.
Personally I really hate seeing stories like this as it gives all hunters a bad name when only a few are the problem, most of the general population doesn't much care for hunters as is so we don't need more bad press. When I am out with my hunting group we are always pulling trash, cans, and other stuff out of the woods and fields that other people left behind. Hell last year I turned in a poacher who was hunting from an illegal stand, bating, had taken 5 deer already (in a 2 deer area), and had been doing more drinking in his stand than hunting because I don't want people like that hunting.
we have very low yield nuclear munitions for howitzers and other "large gun" type systems with ballistic profile for in-theater use
We also had the Davy Crockett nuclear recoilless rifle and the warhead could have also been used in the back pack nuke. These devices were meant as a weapon of last resort as well as nuclear artillery as you are basically in the fallout zone and will end up dead. If you ever have a chance to go to the Atomic Testing Museum in Las Vegas you can see some of these devices (I don't know if they are replicas or decommissioned real ones) but it is well worth the cost of admission.
I would love to do that. I still like using cash and have probably 1.5 gallons of real copper pennies, the rest of my change goes off to the bank each year on my birthday and I get my self something that I want that is just an indulgence (last year it was a bottle of Hennessy XO).
Those who are mining their change for the all copper 1982 pennies and all pre 1982 pennies really want to be able to melt them which you can't at the moment. Also the average lifespan of a coin is 20 years so the fact that there aren't many left shouldn't be a surprise.
Most of those old coins are in a well circulated condition so there isn't any collector value. Most coin shops are more than willing to buy the scrap/junk silver coins and pay by weight, usually slightly below spot (the place I sold my silver bullion bought at %4 below spot). Never offload precious metals to a pawn shop as they typically buy at 50% below spot price, although they sell at just over spot so if you can find a nice condition or collectable year coin buy it and take it to a real coin shop.
Most of those old silver coins are just melted now as it is legal and the only ones that aren't are ones that are good examples that carry a premium. If you wanted to scarf up some plentiful "modern" coins I suggest doing it with pre 1982 pennies. Granted nickles have had the same composition for a while so you wouldn't need to sort them but the per coin gain is probably higher on the pennies.
Well that is happening in mass to the old US silver dimes, quarters, half dollars, and dollars. It is even legal to do now. There is some push for the same with pennies as the some of the 1982 and all earlier ones are worth more than $0.01 face value in melt value. Currently only the old silver coins are legal to melt so you can't do it to modern coins or any pennies or nickles.
From what I remember from my more active coin collecting days the average lifespan of a $1 bill was about 18 months where as most coins have a lifespan of about 20 years.
I loved that when I was in India for work except instead caramels it was a little bags of spicy salty snacks to make up the difference when purchasing some beers at the liquor store.
Interesting thing I found out recently when I sold some of my silver bullion to a coin dealer, it is now legal to melt down old US silver coins for the silver but yet you can't melt down the old 1982 and earlier pennies for the copper.
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Maybe the solution is to quit making bio fuel in probably the worst way possible. I love bio fuels but when algae base fuels don't qualify for any of the subsidies because they are made from the wrong plant (read this a while back in the local paper and can't find the full article but the U of MN page on the summit is still available) there is something wrong with how we are making them.
It is actually illegal to hunt while intoxicated or have alcohol in your possession in Minnesota. The beers stay back at camp as it is nice to have a couple of beers around the fire after dinner, and yes I do mean 1 or 2 beers, and a cigar then it is off to bed so we can be in the stands at about 4 AM.
I have never been a fan of hunting for trophies, or "hunting" on a game farm. It isn't sporting it is a waste and it gives people a bad impression of hunters. I have probably come home empty handed more often than I have successful. When I hunt I have every intention of consuming that animal and I don't want it to suffer or have the bad kill. An animal that being chased and in pain is tense and pumped full of adrenaline which don't make for good eating. I also don't want to spend hours following a blood trail that is a drop of blood hear or there and then not be able to find the animal.
Around in my area the animal lovers thing all hunting is cruel because the [animal in season] is such a majestic creature. My wife's family use to think like that until my wife and here mother smashed a large buck in a Mercury Grand Marquis at 60 MPH. Every year there are people decrying the barbaric practice of hunting wild game in the paper. Even some of my wife's relatives give me a hard time about taking wild game yet they still eat meat but it has to be free range and organic. I don't think they really understand what free range means as the deer, bear (still haven't managed to get one of these), pheasant, grouse, and rabbit I hunt are much more free range than anything they are buying. I also have relatives who live in Colorado and the animal lovers there have a similar view, they love the animals and don't want hunters until they hit one their car or it eats their garden and then they call my uncle out there and he hunts deer from their porch with his muzzle loader.
When I take game I am always trying to take it in the quickest most humane way. I practice shooting (I can consistently hit pop cans at a quarter mile with my deer and bear rifle), I know where I have to shoot to get the quick clean kill, I use the appropriate type of ammunition (203gr soft point for deer and bear, #2 to #4 steel shot for pheasant and grouse, 122gr hollow point for rabbit), I will immediately retrieve and clean the animals so they don't spoil (I have a cooler with ice in it back at the vehicle when small game hunting). The deer I got this year was a very quick clean kill with the shot going trough the heart and 1 lung and the deer only made it another 20 yards. From the time I shot it until it was at the butcher was less than 3 hours with a little over 1 hour drive to the processor and I had to clean it and drag it a half mile out of the woods. The same holds true with other in my hunting party, hunting stops for everyone until the game is retrieved, cleaned and on its way, we all help out. One year we spent over an hour looking for a pheasant that we shot and were using 5 dogs, we did retrieve it. I don't want it to go to waste and at the moment with the meat I have the best thing I can do is create the best tasting food I can with it
The preferred firearm for taking birds that size are a .410 shotgun which are typically a single shot or double barrel breach loaders with a very limited effective range made worse by using very fine shot (probably #7 to #9 shot). Those small birds are actually fairly difficult to hit as you have to be close and at those distances they tend to have a high angular velocity. They provide very little meat but from what I understand they are fairly tasty as I had a coworker who use to hunt mourning doves in PA when he was younger. Personally I don't hunt pigeons or doves as they aren't worth the effort as you do get so little meat. I have found pheasant and grouse hunting to be more difficult than deer or bear hunting as the birds will flush very near to you and you have to raise the gun, take the safety off, and aim before the bird gets out of range. In the case of pheasants you also have to identify if it is a hen or rooster as you can only take roosters, but with grouse you are the woods and may have to other obstacles preventing you from taking the shot. I also would never hunt at a game farm where you are guaranteed to see birds that you paid for. Last year during pheasant season I only saw 1 rooster and didn't get a shot at it as I would have been shooting right at one of my hunting buddies, I did see lots of hens and probably walked 20 miles a day in fields the few times I made it out.
This is one where the law would vary be location but my understanding is that it is highly likely in Minnesota that the hunters would be in the clear legally. According to Minnesota law:
1. The activists were interfering and harassing hunters who were attempting to take legal game. This is illegal in Minnesota.
2. The road in question was a dirt road. I haven't seen it but it is entirely possible that in Minnesota this road would have been classed as an unimproved road and as such it is legal to shoot from or over it.
3. The hunters were on private land. You have a lot of leeway on private land but probably not as much as some people think. This is where the hunters might have trouble, but that depends on the law. At worst they would probably get brought up on a destruction of property charge but that might get tossed based off of the local trespass laws.
4. Also depending on the local trespass laws the activists could be brought up on trespassing charges.
These is how I would see this if it happened in Minnesota where I know the rules and regulations for hunting but I don't know the South Carolina laws and regulations so I don't know how it would pan out there. If in a similar situation I wouldn't have handled it this way as it seems like what the hunters did was really dumb but probably not illegal.
Maybe. I haven't seen the road (video is blocked at work) but from what understand that road in Minnesota may be classes as an unimproved road in which case it would be legal to shoot from or over. I don't know the laws in South Carolina but I would imagine that they have somewhat similar laws in this area but without knowing I couldn't be sure. What the hunters did was stupid but it may not have been illegal.
Reminds me of when I was little (about 5 or so) and for some reason thought it would be a good idea to pull the family dog's tail while it was eating. The dog gave me a little nip and barked quite loud, I ended up with a scratch and went crying to my dad about how the dog bit me. My dad's response was don't pull the dogs tail.
I would argue that a rapist isn't a civilized human being, because if they were they wouldn't be a rapist.
That bring up an interesting question that would vary by state law, as I don't know if by shooting in that direction the hunters violated any laws. In Minnesota it is illegal to shoot from or over an improved road but the unimproved roads you can hunt from and shoot over. Now without know the exact South Carolina hunting regulations and without knowing how that specific road was classed I can't say if the hunters violated any law by shooting in the direction of the road.
I don't know what the laws are in South Carolina but I bet they activists could be brought up on other charges as well. I would assume that SC has a similar law to Minnesota where it is illegal to interfere with the legal taking of game(p. 23 second paragraph from the bottom).
Also depending on the state law they may have committed a criminal offense. In Minnesota it is illegal to interfere with the legal taking of game so I would assume that if South Carolina has a similar law the activists would be in violation of that as well.
Personally I really hate seeing stories like this as it gives all hunters a bad name when only a few are the problem, most of the general population doesn't much care for hunters as is so we don't need more bad press. When I am out with my hunting group we are always pulling trash, cans, and other stuff out of the woods and fields that other people left behind. Hell last year I turned in a poacher who was hunting from an illegal stand, bating, had taken 5 deer already (in a 2 deer area), and had been doing more drinking in his stand than hunting because I don't want people like that hunting.
From my experience empty open road.
we have very low yield nuclear munitions for howitzers and other "large gun" type systems with ballistic profile for in-theater use
We also had the Davy Crockett nuclear recoilless rifle and the warhead could have also been used in the back pack nuke. These devices were meant as a weapon of last resort as well as nuclear artillery as you are basically in the fallout zone and will end up dead. If you ever have a chance to go to the Atomic Testing Museum in Las Vegas you can see some of these devices (I don't know if they are replicas or decommissioned real ones) but it is well worth the cost of admission.
I would love to do that. I still like using cash and have probably 1.5 gallons of real copper pennies, the rest of my change goes off to the bank each year on my birthday and I get my self something that I want that is just an indulgence (last year it was a bottle of Hennessy XO).
Those who are mining their change for the all copper 1982 pennies and all pre 1982 pennies really want to be able to melt them which you can't at the moment. Also the average lifespan of a coin is 20 years so the fact that there aren't many left shouldn't be a surprise.
I am not sure I want those coins. Heard from several Navy guys about the Thai Change Machines.
So I am not the only one who mines their change. I don't bother to roll the pennies I just toss them in a 5 gallon bucket.
Most of those old coins are in a well circulated condition so there isn't any collector value. Most coin shops are more than willing to buy the scrap/junk silver coins and pay by weight, usually slightly below spot (the place I sold my silver bullion bought at %4 below spot). Never offload precious metals to a pawn shop as they typically buy at 50% below spot price, although they sell at just over spot so if you can find a nice condition or collectable year coin buy it and take it to a real coin shop.
Most of those old silver coins are just melted now as it is legal and the only ones that aren't are ones that are good examples that carry a premium. If you wanted to scarf up some plentiful "modern" coins I suggest doing it with pre 1982 pennies. Granted nickles have had the same composition for a while so you wouldn't need to sort them but the per coin gain is probably higher on the pennies.
Well that is happening in mass to the old US silver dimes, quarters, half dollars, and dollars. It is even legal to do now. There is some push for the same with pennies as the some of the 1982 and all earlier ones are worth more than $0.01 face value in melt value. Currently only the old silver coins are legal to melt so you can't do it to modern coins or any pennies or nickles.
From what I remember from my more active coin collecting days the average lifespan of a $1 bill was about 18 months where as most coins have a lifespan of about 20 years.
I loved that when I was in India for work except instead caramels it was a little bags of spicy salty snacks to make up the difference when purchasing some beers at the liquor store.
Interesting thing I found out recently when I sold some of my silver bullion to a coin dealer, it is now legal to melt down old US silver coins for the silver but yet you can't melt down the old 1982 and earlier pennies for the copper.
Actually the patent should get invalidated by prior art.