especially if you're used to running everything as root. (A big no-no, but most Linux users are guilty of it anyway, because it's convenient at times.)
I was not aware most of us run Lindows^WLinspire:). On a more serious note, I normally just add admins to the wheel group and allow the group members sudo access.
Fedora is the beta testing grounds for what will later become a release of Redhat
Only in the sense that Debian is the beta testing ground for Xandros, Libranet etc.
Progeny will even sell you support for Fedora, so what are you complaining about? Don't like it, don't use it, fine, but there are people like me who use and help test Fedora that do not appreciate your FUD.
They are collaborating on freedesktop.org. Standardization of desktop entry format, system tray, thumbnails, etc. Both projects are also on the X.org foundation.
Nothing to worry on that front. Besides disagreement on HIGs, KDE and GNOME developers seem to get along much more nicely than their users, or the more vocal ones at least.
Any of the four combinations of parents should be possible then.
Yes, but you'd then need a female to donate eggs, remove the host egg's chromosomes and inject in the two fathers' DNA.
Sounds rather more risky, with more trauma being done to the egg, and the failure rate would be higher due to the possibility of Y-Y pairings which would be unviable.
D's *THE* Programming Language:P. On a more serious note, once a stable release comes out targeting the GCC backend, it would be quite sweet to use with gtkmm/gnomemm...
Perhaps because starting around 1999-2000 Linux is considered a credible alternative in the server market (with Oracle, etc. offering Linux ports of their products), so the speculation shifts to the desktop scene?
I stand corrected, but perhaps the KBO naming convention applies to trans-KBO objects too? Certainly makes better sense than reverting to the standard planetary naming scheme.
Sedna is.. or was classified as, anyway, a Kuyper Belt Object (KBO) so it does not follow the naming system used for other objects. KBO objects are named after gods and goddesses of creations..
Oh, and Inuits would be offended if you call them Red Indian. Any native Americans would, in fact, but Inuits are not even 'red'.
Someone with a Mac nick creating a Linux distro that looks like Windows.. ouch, mind-boggling irony:)
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I asked, and there is apparently no restriction on reverse engineering of the distribution, so you could buy one copy, download the corresponding source code, and make an exact copy of each of the programs in the distribution, and put those files on all of your machines.
You can. It's called White Box Linux. Won't give you the peace of mind of running RHEL though.
KDE app configs in ~/.kde/config, GNOME app configs in ~/.gconf and ~/.gnome2... with luck the situation should be getting simplified in the future. The problem is that there are lots of non-GNOME, non-KDE essential software - Gaim (~/.gaim), Mozilla (~/.mozilla) etc...
Would be nice if freedesktop.org took a leaf off Apple and mandates, say, ~/Library/Preferences..
Additionally, to install a deb you need to be root. Most people don't want or need to use root. 0install fixes that, and AppDirs make it easy even without 0install.
Here's to it being included by default, and turned on, in major distros.
Currently, you need to be root and know how to compile an external kernel module, in order to be able to use it, no?
Granted, that holds for nVidia's binary drivers, and Livna.org has a trivial-to-use installer for that..
The keychain is used to secure all sorts of things including mail passwords and browser field values.
The keychain is secured though and does only store one copy of the passphrase in a blowfish encrypted file.
Yep, Keychain is one neat example on how to integrate things. Now that GNOME and KDE have similar tools, I must say having to use Windows at work is becoming more of a cross to bear. A reminder of what 90% of users have to struggle with, I suppose...
Don't get too uppity about not having a registry. OS X uses a number of preference files, and even though they've changed to XML and the like, users are seeing the same problems with OS 9- corrupt preference files causing odd behavior. Remove the naughty pref file, things start working again.
Unlike Windows Registry, and like GNOME's GConf and KDE's system though, these preferences are not stored in huge monolithic binary files, the way Microsoft seems to have a penchant of doing. Corrupting two files (system and user registries) inadvertently (or maliciously, at that) is much easier than corrupting many individual files, and conversely, doing a partial, per-app backup of preference files is much easier in non-monolithic schemes.
But don't ask me. Ask any Outlook user what happened when their gigantic.PST file got corrupted. Or grew over 2 GB on FAT32 filesystems.
I'm glad to see a Linux desktop system copying the MacOS instead of Windows. I've felt for some time that it is a huge mistake for KDE and GNOME to try so hard to make themselves look like Windows when, in OS X, there is a much better example of a Unix-based desktop
Actually, GNOME seems to be lifting a page from Apple more than Windows these days, though not necessarily OS X. Spatial Finder? voila, Spatial Nautilus. Removable media showing up as an icon on the desktop? Check.
ROX actually had its concepts of AppDirs from RISC OS, the OS running on Acorn's ARM-based machines, that was quite neat. Prob is, it did not sell well outside the UK, was written in Assembly language and was a co-operative multitasking system..
Damn fast though. On a system without hardware FPU!
This guy was not insightful. All he knew to talk about was whether SuSE supported his favorite desktop and browser.
Indeed. He had valid points but his article just sounded like a rant. Some previous posters commented that Barr's needs are better catered by SuSE Professional, but I rather doubt it, what he needs is a newbie GNOME distro.
For example, notice how he did not resort to opening a terminal window, su-ing and then running YaST when the link from the Gnome menu broke because gnomesu was not installed?
Considering Novell wants to push Mono, I doubt they would want to piss off Ximian folks by telling them to drop Gnome at this point, but I would not bet my life on that..
Considering Novell owns both SuSE and Ximian (maker of Ximian Desktop which runs perfectly well on SuSE) it would be natural to expect better GNOME support than in past SuSE releases.
I have run both Red Hat/Fedora and SuSE, and I must say that SuSE's GNOME tends to be more broken than Red Hat's KDE. The latter actually worked well (though without any third-party KDE apps installed) until you try to use, say, KPilot..
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I was not aware most of us run Lindows^WLinspire
The GUI for up2date lacks the ability to install new packages, but apart from that it's quite nice, yes.
Only in the sense that Debian is the beta testing ground for Xandros, Libranet etc.
Progeny will even sell you support for Fedora, so what are you complaining about? Don't like it, don't use it, fine, but there are people like me who use and help test Fedora that do not appreciate your FUD.
They are collaborating on freedesktop.org. Standardization of desktop entry format, system tray, thumbnails, etc. Both projects are also on the X.org foundation.
Nothing to worry on that front. Besides disagreement on HIGs, KDE and GNOME developers seem to get along much more nicely than their users, or the more vocal ones at least.
Is Google contacting Blogger users, or are all Blogger users eligible to be beta testers? I have a Blogger account and I can't log in to GMail..
Ah yes, thanks, now I remember - been a while since I watched it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was Kirk who was the recipient?
Yes, but you'd then need a female to donate eggs, remove the host egg's chromosomes and inject in the two fathers' DNA.
Sounds rather more risky, with more trauma being done to the egg, and the failure rate would be higher due to the possibility of Y-Y pairings which would be unviable.
You could also compile gtkmm under D with minor modification, and get the benefit of a more OO syntax, no?
D's *THE* Programming Language :P. On a more serious note, once a stable release comes out targeting the GCC backend, it would be quite sweet to use with gtkmm/gnomemm...
Perhaps because starting around 1999-2000 Linux is considered a credible alternative in the server market (with Oracle, etc. offering Linux ports of their products), so the speculation shifts to the desktop scene?
I stand corrected, but perhaps the KBO naming convention applies to trans-KBO objects too? Certainly makes better sense than reverting to the standard planetary naming scheme.
Sedna is.. or was classified as, anyway, a Kuyper Belt Object (KBO) so it does not follow the naming system used for other objects. KBO objects are named after gods and goddesses of creations..
Oh, and Inuits would be offended if you call them Red Indian. Any native Americans would, in fact, but Inuits are not even 'red'.
Don't forget Sun Linux, which was repackaged Red Hat..
In a trivial way, I suppose SuSE *is* more Java than Red Hat.. they do ship the JVM with SuSE Linux Professional, after all.
Don't forget C++ too.. well, Objective-C++ :)
Demotivating your employees tend to have a side effect of making them less productive...
Someone with a Mac nick creating a Linux distro that looks like Windows.. ouch, mind-boggling irony :)
You can. It's called White Box Linux. Won't give you the peace of mind of running RHEL though.
Would be nice if freedesktop.org took a leaf off Apple and mandates, say, ~/Library/Preferences ..
Here's to it being included by default, and turned on, in major distros.
Currently, you need to be root and know how to compile an external kernel module, in order to be able to use it, no?
Granted, that holds for nVidia's binary drivers, and Livna.org has a trivial-to-use installer for that..
Yep, Keychain is one neat example on how to integrate things. Now that GNOME and KDE have similar tools, I must say having to use Windows at work is becoming more of a cross to bear. A reminder of what 90% of users have to struggle with, I suppose...
Mental note: next time, find a Java job
Unlike Windows Registry, and like GNOME's GConf and KDE's system though, these preferences are not stored in huge monolithic binary files, the way Microsoft seems to have a penchant of doing. Corrupting two files (system and user registries) inadvertently (or maliciously, at that) is much easier than corrupting many individual files, and conversely, doing a partial, per-app backup of preference files is much easier in non-monolithic schemes.
But don't ask me. Ask any Outlook user what happened when their gigantic .PST file got corrupted. Or grew over 2 GB on FAT32 filesystems.
Actually, GNOME seems to be lifting a page from Apple more than Windows these days, though not necessarily OS X. Spatial Finder? voila, Spatial Nautilus. Removable media showing up as an icon on the desktop? Check.
ROX actually had its concepts of AppDirs from RISC OS, the OS running on Acorn's ARM-based machines, that was quite neat. Prob is, it did not sell well outside the UK, was written in Assembly language and was a co-operative multitasking system..
Damn fast though. On a system without hardware FPU!
Indeed. He had valid points but his article just sounded like a rant. Some previous posters commented that Barr's needs are better catered by SuSE Professional, but I rather doubt it, what he needs is a newbie GNOME distro.
For example, notice how he did not resort to opening a terminal window, su-ing and then running YaST when the link from the Gnome menu broke because gnomesu was not installed?
Considering Novell wants to push Mono, I doubt they would want to piss off Ximian folks by telling them to drop Gnome at this point, but I would not bet my life on that..
I have run both Red Hat/Fedora and SuSE, and I must say that SuSE's GNOME tends to be more broken than Red Hat's KDE. The latter actually worked well (though without any third-party KDE apps installed) until you try to use, say, KPilot..