I have been watching nearly the entire population of the planet for a year, and I think it is time to inform you that I have a patent for numerical precedence based on ascension. I have felt it was necessary to gather enough evidence that the entire population was infringing on my patent before bringing it to the legal system. It appears that major sites like eBay, PerlMonks, this, among other sites are in non-compliance.
The primary infringement is that each new item posted to the sites that are non-compliant are numerically assigned a value that has incremented from the last previous item posted to the site. The infringement is not limited to the Internet, however, and it appears that the methods involved with my numerical ascension have been stolen by numerous companies, organizations, and groups. Furthermore, the methods have been provided without my permission for use to be taught to children in our school systems.
This post (which ironically enough is in non-compliance), will serve as my notice to cease using the methods for determining numerical precedence based on ascension.
I pledge allegiance to the flag,
which I bought at my local Wal-Mart.
And to the free market,
for which it stands,
uncontrollable, but by one man
Alan Greenspan.
Katz is a babbling *Rolling Stone* consumer profile. All he knows about is what's advertised, targeted, tested. And when all you know about "book publishing, opera and classical music, dance," is what you see on television, or read about in *Wired*, you might think these things are "in decline" or "endangered." If you actually care about these things, pursue and enjoy them, you know better. Katz doesn't. But he likes video games, so they're the most important thing in the world-and their popularity with demographic groups whose insecurities he hopes to play to, a symbol of everything but the enjoyment of video games by the dorky.
I agree whole-heartedly. Unfortunately, CmdrTaco has continued to let him post frivolously, even though the "Katz World View"[TM] definitely seems to conflict with the "Nerd World View". Time and again, the nerds and geeks (and whatever else there is in that particular hegemony) cling to new and old alike. The typical geek will take pride in his original member status of HomeBrew as much as his ability to frag with impunity. The typical nerd appreciates Bach as much as Beck. Katz had a shining moment when he recognized that those being labeled as different weren't evil. But being different inherently means not following the pop culture. Gaming is a part of pop culture. It has been since boys were learning up-up-down-down... But that sequence isn't anything we as geeks or nerds own. Ask another 20something that currently works at McDonald's, used to be the high school QB, and was voted most likely to impregnate every cheerleader at once. Chances are, he knows that code too.
I guess my formal introduction to Katz (back in the days when his words were more visionary and less sensational) led me to believe that although he wasn't a computer nerd, he had nerdlike qualities enough to deserve some respect and that those who "dissed Katz" were snobbish nerds who demanded a demonstration of nerdiness that matched their own. Now however, I see that he is simply a writer who leeches off the story of the week in order to justify his self worth.
I just wish he could accept that for the most part, our hegemony tends to be inclusive of all things simply because we understand exclusion. It seems to me exclusion only occurs to those who reciprocate the exclusiveness we so abhor. So, Katz, I hope you read all responses to your articles, and that you realize that you have excluded me one too many times.
This chasm first opened on the cultural front, with the evolution of distinctly youth-centered entertainment forms like hip-hop, rock 'n' roll and then Nintendo and Sega; it's widened as gaming has expanded beyond its subculture status. Gaming isn't just a hobby any longer. In fact, it needs a new label, something like VI -- Virtual Imagination. Well on the way to being culture itself , gaming has all sorts of implications for education, work and politics.
Yeah, there's nothing like being immersed into a world too fantastic to imagine. Of course, that's where the artists like VanGogh and Monet came in, years past. I'm sorry, but there's no way a computer game can live up to an overworked imagination. You graphic developers can take that as a challenge, an insult, or whatever. You can't match my ability. You can only expand what I can envision, but you'll never surpass it.
VI is an editor, Jon, don't abuse the term. I know that what is being accomplished by the game designers today is able to wow you, simply because as you've shown time and again, you have no imagination. That's why you need a virtual one. And it is a sad statement if indeed most people need to use this "VI" to experience a full, rich, world beyond their obviously drab excuses for life. Please, for the love of god, push using the imagination instead of taking a backseat to what your mind can create. Imagination is using Legos to build fantastic worlds. Legos are nothing but pieces, but that they can be configured to build something amazing is good. The major problem with these games is that you allow the developers to imagine the world for you.
No other form of culture is ascending as rapidly. Compared to gaming, traditional kinds of culture -- some elements of book publishing, opera and classical music, dance, appear declining and endangered.
And you're heralding the loss of other great forms of art?!? Egads man, I'd smack you upside the head if you were here with me. I'm all for expanding art, but destroying old forms to make way for the new. You are so typical of the Western mindset. There is room for all types of art, and it's simply a pity that mindless fools that have to live their fantasies out through some other person's imagined worlds have begun to depreciate the value of all art.
I cannot respect a person who would wish to lose an artform forever in order to gain a newer one. It's a new low to even suggest such a thing.
Point me to a brief list of information that supports this claim that GWB has integrity. I live in Austin, and I can guarantee you that he's as much of a politicker than anybody else. I'd recommend you go read some decent coverage of his time in office. I've got a link to The Austin Chronicle to begin with. You might also look up the Observer (might be Texas Observer) but I don't know if they archive their copy online. There's an especially good article that covers what Dubya's gonna do when he gets back to Austin in November after the election day from a couple weeks ago.
If you're going to state that he's got integrity, prove it.
Given the current state of affairs, I'm inclined to believe that nearly the entire population of the US is living in outer space. We all know these people. They're the ones who simply eke out an existence for themselves, instead of doing meaningful things in their short lifespans.
Okay, that was freaky cause right while I was reading this, WinAMP (which is set on Shuffle) began cranking out 'Scooby Snacks' by Fun Lovin' Criminals. I love synchronicity.
Okay, I got moderated down by a non-geek...
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Earlier today I posted something that any geek or nerd would get. View this article at -1 and search for my name or the subject line: 'TMBG', as in They Might Be Giants. If you've seen them in concert, you'll know wtf I'm talking about. If you haven't then you may not get the whole joke. That's my guess at least...
And it's actually a good thing that it wasn't on the list. I think that was a rule, though, if the movie uses live kittens in a humorous manner, it shan't be on the list. Thus 'The Jerk' was never even considered.
Or it could be that these movies were just too ridiculously great. But I think it was the live kittens.
Okay, obviously what kid doesn't want to get to do something like this. I mean, the movie foretold the Quake tournaments that so many of us enjoy now. Of course there are other movies about video games, but Tron and The Last Starfighter reward the gamer in unrealistic ways.
32 - Howard The Duck
It's from the great and almighty himself. It must be a quality movie in the tradition of ESB and RotJ. Okay, I'm kidding about that one.
26 - Jade
Reasons to watch this movie: you have an insatiable fetish for Linda Fiorentino. Okay, that's the only reason to watch this movie.
That's my take of a few choice picks on the list. I chose from the movies I have seen on that list, so I have no idea about some of those strange movies like "10 - Lambada, The Forbidden Dance".
True, but I was hoping that some IANAL freak would give me an interpretation on the idea of me providing say 'metallica-master_of_puppets.mp3' which happened to be the same length of that song, but contained none of the original. Since I have attributed it to that artist, am I violating a copyright simply by title alone?
Actually, selling baking powder (or any other white powdery substance that is not marked by the DEA) as cocaine is equivalent to selling cocaine in the minds of the feds.
I don't know if trading cuckoo songs is equivalent to trading the real thing. But, the question becomes, "If I post a cuckoo Metallica song, who am I infringing on?" How far does the copyright reach? If I purport to provide something by an artist, but it is entirely different, aren't I still breaking a copyright law?
Good point. I guess I'll have to fly with the idea of a selected testing lab approved by the kernel developers. I know RH has a link to compatible hardware (which never seems to be 100% up to date) lists. They tend to avoid the issue by breaking into tiers, (good|bad) as it may mean that it can work but it seems near impossible to find out how to do it at times.
I'd like to see a site like tom's hardware develop a linux section to list exact performance, if it works, how they got it to work (if it wasn't straight forward plug it in type install), and a list of companies that are REALLY linux friendly and not this bullshit we'll stick Tux on our box cause we got it to run in a special environment with drivers that one of our developers wrote, but we won't release. (Note: I don't know for sure that this happens, but I don't doubt that it wouldn't.)
But with Linux, there is no real controlling entity - Linux's strength is in it's diversity and dispersed control. But this also makes it difficult to have any sort of certification that can be enforced. If there is no one entity saying what constitutes certification (and no entity to revoke certification), then all we can rely on is the reputation of the vendor.
Someone has to own the rights to Tux. And someone very prominent is the owner of a little known word: 'linux'. I believe his name is Linus.
What I'm getting at is that yes, in the sense of Linux (the OS), there is a controlling entity, and it could be said that he and the lieutenants could authorize a group to do said logo control. That way end users (read newbies) don't get burned and go back to their previous OS. (Note, not all end users are newbies, but I doubt a long time linux user would give up that easily.)
Another article chock full of abuse (grammatical and towards the audience) and culture references. Yes, admittedly, the first thing I began thinking about as I read this article was Gattaca. Quite a poignant thinking man's movie, if you truly wish to delve into the discussion of genetic control. But how can we (those of us not locked in California think-tanks) begin to discuss this movie when we're immediately checking our myriad of handheld devices to find the latest sports scores and check our email to see what's happened in the two hour span it takes to watch the movie.
First and foremost, no one's going to be making "the perfect baby" this week. Or next week. Secondly, besides the general Luddites who will, of course, cast aversion towards this next advance, I'm forced to think of the Matrix (yes, yet another cultural reference) while reading the article. Primarily, I'm referring to Tank's pride as he states he's pure human. If our society has shown any sort of pattern, it's (note: proper use of an apostrophe, as opposed to Katz's use) the tendency for backlash.
Yes, I'm fairly certain that given a poll (hint hint) that many/.ers, fans of technology that they are, would still say that they'd rather not create their own "perfect baby". The ramifications are numerous. First, consider that your own imperfections are magnified. Second, a la "Gattaca", what if we are destroying free will in the sense that we breed humans for certain purposes like we breed livestock. Third, mystery. This is similar in a sense to my previous statement, only more frightening. By breeding perfection, exact physical details become knowns, and the mystery surrounding life itself begins to vanish. These are just the beginning of the possibilities.
I'm not attempting to be a naysayer, nor am I attempting to argue the ethical nature of the discussion. It appears that Katz avoids ethics as well, beyond stating this is bad, and it gives us the power to create perfect babies, he provides no further positions and therefore pisses us off, because his argument has one leg. This is the crux of the Katz-haters, since he often follows one tangent and never returns to the argument at hand. But, I digress (see how easy that is?).
I'm merely stating that if America isn't ready for this, then the majority will stave off of it. This is the general case of everything in this country, until we're good and ready, we don't do much.
A: Apple and NeXT employees. Also, Microsoft employees. And don't forget Oracle employees. Oh yeah, while I'm at it, Sun employees.
Steve, Bill, Larry, and Scott each have wild passions that require complete submission to fulfill. Steve and Bill have succeeded well to this point (in their employees eyes, and some of America's). Larry's coming along, although he and Scott are both fanatical about ending Bill's regime.
In other words, this situation is atypical because noone truly looked into his background. The four mentioned above were around before backgrounds existed at least in their arena.
I loaded it up to see what it's like, and well, my P-90 with 24 MB of RAM just ain't happy with me. I guess I'll wait for them to release something that doesn't have as many problems...
With that said, I noticed something. I'm a sinner, and I don't have Linux installed on every machine I use. So I went to the Control Panel, and chose Add/Remove Software to get the quick and dirty done. Well, lo and behold, there's no option to remove the damn thing. Smells of the whole IE situation. Once IE's in (the OS), it's in for good. AOL^H^H^HNetscape decided to apparently play that game and hide itself good. Sure I can remove the folder that I installed in, but as any good M$ user knows, that's only half the battle. Knowing where the extra.dlls and what not that were installed is the other half. Hmm. I guess GIJoe was right.
You'll have to pardon my ignorance, but why not a few good orbits around Jupiter to build up momentum? Is the fuel all gone? Or is there enough just to make the minor corrections to "hop over" the asteroid belt?
This sort of project (even if unsuccessful) would teach NASA how to use unfueled satellites efficiently. IANARS (Rocket Scientist), but it seems that besides the few rocks that it may encounter, those laws of Newton would be very nice. Assuming that "solar winds" don't hinder return trips into the inner planets, they would have the benefit of working in a near (if not perfect) vacuum system, so pesky little things like friction aren't major players in reduction of momentum.
Just seems to me that all they need is enough fuel to set the course in motion with an angle to "hop" the asteroid belt, then enough fuel to correct the flight path, and finally enough to slow it down enough to be grabbed into orbit. Of course, if there's no fuel, there's no way. But if there is a minute amount left, who cares if it takes a couple years to get there, because if it does get there, that in itself is a success.
I think that moving Galileo out of the range of Jupiter would be the most commendable thing. First off, it is still capable of gathering/sending information. Secondly, we've lost two of the three Mars missions. Question is then can Galileo properly do those missions?
If scientists can successfully bring it back through the asteroid belt and in tact to complete at least on of those failed missions, then it shows the versatility of the "new NASA". Galileo has already proven its ability in completing various missions, why not one more before it gets destroyed.
Personally, if saving Galileo is a priority and bringing it back would work, I believe that NASA could save face and return hope to the Mars priority it's been running with these past few years. Plus I'd like to be around when "The Martian Chronicles" begins to actually come to pass.
MS Technology that puts a ' where it belongs. I'm sure it's not that hard, but I mean symlinks took 1.5 years. So that solution is still at least 3 years down the road.
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The primary infringement is that each new item posted to the sites that are non-compliant are numerically assigned a value that has incremented from the last previous item posted to the site. The infringement is not limited to the Internet, however, and it appears that the methods involved with my numerical ascension have been stolen by numerous companies, organizations, and groups. Furthermore, the methods have been provided without my permission for use to be taught to children in our school systems.
This post (which ironically enough is in non-compliance), will serve as my notice to cease using the methods for determining numerical precedence based on ascension.
Thank you.
From the local "alternative" paper: Bushisms
I pledge allegiance to the flag,
which I bought at my local Wal-Mart.
And to the free market,
for which it stands,
uncontrollable, but by one man
Alan Greenspan.
Where the hell am I supposed to buy random shit that obviously nobody wants but those 3 other guys who consistently outbid me?
I agree whole-heartedly. Unfortunately, CmdrTaco has continued to let him post frivolously, even though the "Katz World View"[TM] definitely seems to conflict with the "Nerd World View". Time and again, the nerds and geeks (and whatever else there is in that particular hegemony) cling to new and old alike. The typical geek will take pride in his original member status of HomeBrew as much as his ability to frag with impunity. The typical nerd appreciates Bach as much as Beck. Katz had a shining moment when he recognized that those being labeled as different weren't evil. But being different inherently means not following the pop culture. Gaming is a part of pop culture. It has been since boys were learning up-up-down-down... But that sequence isn't anything we as geeks or nerds own. Ask another 20something that currently works at McDonald's, used to be the high school QB, and was voted most likely to impregnate every cheerleader at once. Chances are, he knows that code too.
I guess my formal introduction to Katz (back in the days when his words were more visionary and less sensational) led me to believe that although he wasn't a computer nerd, he had nerdlike qualities enough to deserve some respect and that those who "dissed Katz" were snobbish nerds who demanded a demonstration of nerdiness that matched their own. Now however, I see that he is simply a writer who leeches off the story of the week in order to justify his self worth.
I just wish he could accept that for the most part, our hegemony tends to be inclusive of all things simply because we understand exclusion. It seems to me exclusion only occurs to those who reciprocate the exclusiveness we so abhor. So, Katz, I hope you read all responses to your articles, and that you realize that you have excluded me one too many times.
Yeah, there's nothing like being immersed into a world too fantastic to imagine. Of course, that's where the artists like VanGogh and Monet came in, years past. I'm sorry, but there's no way a computer game can live up to an overworked imagination. You graphic developers can take that as a challenge, an insult, or whatever. You can't match my ability. You can only expand what I can envision, but you'll never surpass it.
VI is an editor, Jon, don't abuse the term. I know that what is being accomplished by the game designers today is able to wow you, simply because as you've shown time and again, you have no imagination. That's why you need a virtual one. And it is a sad statement if indeed most people need to use this "VI" to experience a full, rich, world beyond their obviously drab excuses for life. Please, for the love of god, push using the imagination instead of taking a backseat to what your mind can create. Imagination is using Legos to build fantastic worlds. Legos are nothing but pieces, but that they can be configured to build something amazing is good. The major problem with these games is that you allow the developers to imagine the world for you.
No other form of culture is ascending as rapidly. Compared to gaming, traditional kinds of culture -- some elements of book publishing, opera and classical music, dance, appear declining and endangered.
And you're heralding the loss of other great forms of art?!? Egads man, I'd smack you upside the head if you were here with me. I'm all for expanding art, but destroying old forms to make way for the new. You are so typical of the Western mindset. There is room for all types of art, and it's simply a pity that mindless fools that have to live their fantasies out through some other person's imagined worlds have begun to depreciate the value of all art.
I cannot respect a person who would wish to lose an artform forever in order to gain a newer one. It's a new low to even suggest such a thing.
Point me to a brief list of information that supports this claim that GWB has integrity. I live in Austin, and I can guarantee you that he's as much of a politicker than anybody else. I'd recommend you go read some decent coverage of his time in office. I've got a link to The Austin Chronicle to begin with. You might also look up the Observer (might be Texas Observer) but I don't know if they archive their copy online. There's an especially good article that covers what Dubya's gonna do when he gets back to Austin in November after the election day from a couple weeks ago.
If you're going to state that he's got integrity, prove it.
Given the current state of affairs, I'm inclined to believe that nearly the entire population of the US is living in outer space. We all know these people. They're the ones who simply eke out an existence for themselves, instead of doing meaningful things in their short lifespans.
Okay, that was freaky cause right while I was reading this, WinAMP (which is set on Shuffle) began cranking out 'Scooby Snacks' by Fun Lovin' Criminals. I love synchronicity.
Earlier today I posted something that any geek or nerd would get. View this article at -1 and search for my name or the subject line: 'TMBG', as in They Might Be Giants. If you've seen them in concert, you'll know wtf I'm talking about. If you haven't then you may not get the whole joke. That's my guess at least...
And it's actually a good thing that it wasn't on the list. I think that was a rule, though, if the movie uses live kittens in a humorous manner, it shan't be on the list. Thus 'The Jerk' was never even considered.
Or it could be that these movies were just too ridiculously great. But I think it was the live kittens.
46 - The Wizard
Okay, obviously what kid doesn't want to get to do something like this. I mean, the movie foretold the Quake tournaments that so many of us enjoy now. Of course there are other movies about video games, but Tron and The Last Starfighter reward the gamer in unrealistic ways.
32 - Howard The Duck
It's from the great and almighty himself. It must be a quality movie in the tradition of ESB and RotJ. Okay, I'm kidding about that one.
26 - Jade
Reasons to watch this movie: you have an insatiable fetish for Linda Fiorentino. Okay, that's the only reason to watch this movie.
That's my take of a few choice picks on the list. I chose from the movies I have seen on that list, so I have no idea about some of those strange movies like "10 - Lambada, The Forbidden Dance".
Age old adage: Bad publicity is better than none...
Is this Katz?
True, but I was hoping that some IANAL freak would give me an interpretation on the idea of me providing say 'metallica-master_of_puppets.mp3' which happened to be the same length of that song, but contained none of the original. Since I have attributed it to that artist, am I violating a copyright simply by title alone?
Actually, selling baking powder (or any other white powdery substance that is not marked by the DEA) as cocaine is equivalent to selling cocaine in the minds of the feds.
I don't know if trading cuckoo songs is equivalent to trading the real thing. But, the question becomes, "If I post a cuckoo Metallica song, who am I infringing on?" How far does the copyright reach? If I purport to provide something by an artist, but it is entirely different, aren't I still breaking a copyright law?
Good point. I guess I'll have to fly with the idea of a selected testing lab approved by the kernel developers. I know RH has a link to compatible hardware (which never seems to be 100% up to date) lists. They tend to avoid the issue by breaking into tiers, (good|bad) as it may mean that it can work but it seems near impossible to find out how to do it at times.
I'd like to see a site like tom's hardware develop a linux section to list exact performance, if it works, how they got it to work (if it wasn't straight forward plug it in type install), and a list of companies that are REALLY linux friendly and not this bullshit we'll stick Tux on our box cause we got it to run in a special environment with drivers that one of our developers wrote, but we won't release. (Note: I don't know for sure that this happens, but I don't doubt that it wouldn't.)
Someone has to own the rights to Tux. And someone very prominent is the owner of a little known word: 'linux'. I believe his name is Linus.
What I'm getting at is that yes, in the sense of Linux (the OS), there is a controlling entity, and it could be said that he and the lieutenants could authorize a group to do said logo control. That way end users (read newbies) don't get burned and go back to their previous OS. (Note, not all end users are newbies, but I doubt a long time linux user would give up that easily.)
Another article chock full of abuse (grammatical and towards the audience) and culture references. Yes, admittedly, the first thing I began thinking about as I read this article was Gattaca. Quite a poignant thinking man's movie, if you truly wish to delve into the discussion of genetic control. But how can we (those of us not locked in California think-tanks) begin to discuss this movie when we're immediately checking our myriad of handheld devices to find the latest sports scores and check our email to see what's happened in the two hour span it takes to watch the movie.
/.ers, fans of technology that they are, would still say that they'd rather not create their own "perfect baby". The ramifications are numerous. First, consider that your own imperfections are magnified. Second, a la "Gattaca", what if we are destroying free will in the sense that we breed humans for certain purposes like we breed livestock. Third, mystery. This is similar in a sense to my previous statement, only more frightening. By breeding perfection, exact physical details become knowns, and the mystery surrounding life itself begins to vanish. These are just the beginning of the possibilities.
First and foremost, no one's going to be making "the perfect baby" this week. Or next week. Secondly, besides the general Luddites who will, of course, cast aversion towards this next advance, I'm forced to think of the Matrix (yes, yet another cultural reference) while reading the article. Primarily, I'm referring to Tank's pride as he states he's pure human. If our society has shown any sort of pattern, it's (note: proper use of an apostrophe, as opposed to Katz's use) the tendency for backlash.
Yes, I'm fairly certain that given a poll (hint hint) that many
I'm not attempting to be a naysayer, nor am I attempting to argue the ethical nature of the discussion. It appears that Katz avoids ethics as well, beyond stating this is bad, and it gives us the power to create perfect babies, he provides no further positions and therefore pisses us off, because his argument has one leg. This is the crux of the Katz-haters, since he often follows one tangent and never returns to the argument at hand. But, I digress (see how easy that is?).
I'm merely stating that if America isn't ready for this, then the majority will stave off of it. This is the general case of everything in this country, until we're good and ready, we don't do much.
A: Apple and NeXT employees. Also, Microsoft employees. And don't forget Oracle employees. Oh yeah, while I'm at it, Sun employees.
Steve, Bill, Larry, and Scott each have wild passions that require complete submission to fulfill. Steve and Bill have succeeded well to this point (in their employees eyes, and some of America's). Larry's coming along, although he and Scott are both fanatical about ending Bill's regime.
In other words, this situation is atypical because noone truly looked into his background. The four mentioned above were around before backgrounds existed at least in their arena.
Daddy, I want a Radio Shack moon lander for Christmas!!!
Next thing you know, you will be able to buy weapons grade plutonium from Home Depot. (They already sell everything else you need to make a bomb.)
What's next in the joint venture of the suits and the whitecoats?
So how do I uninstall this thing?
.dlls and what not that were installed is the other half. Hmm. I guess GIJoe was right.
I loaded it up to see what it's like, and well, my P-90 with 24 MB of RAM just ain't happy with me. I guess I'll wait for them to release something that doesn't have as many problems...
With that said, I noticed something. I'm a sinner, and I don't have Linux installed on every machine I use. So I went to the Control Panel, and chose Add/Remove Software to get the quick and dirty done. Well, lo and behold, there's no option to remove the damn thing. Smells of the whole IE situation. Once IE's in (the OS), it's in for good. AOL^H^H^HNetscape decided to apparently play that game and hide itself good. Sure I can remove the folder that I installed in, but as any good M$ user knows, that's only half the battle. Knowing where the extra
You'll have to pardon my ignorance, but why not a few good orbits around Jupiter to build up momentum? Is the fuel all gone? Or is there enough just to make the minor corrections to "hop over" the asteroid belt?
This sort of project (even if unsuccessful) would teach NASA how to use unfueled satellites efficiently. IANARS (Rocket Scientist), but it seems that besides the few rocks that it may encounter, those laws of Newton would be very nice. Assuming that "solar winds" don't hinder return trips into the inner planets, they would have the benefit of working in a near (if not perfect) vacuum system, so pesky little things like friction aren't major players in reduction of momentum.
Just seems to me that all they need is enough fuel to set the course in motion with an angle to "hop" the asteroid belt, then enough fuel to correct the flight path, and finally enough to slow it down enough to be grabbed into orbit. Of course, if there's no fuel, there's no way. But if there is a minute amount left, who cares if it takes a couple years to get there, because if it does get there, that in itself is a success.
I think that moving Galileo out of the range of Jupiter would be the most commendable thing. First off, it is still capable of gathering/sending information. Secondly, we've lost two of the three Mars missions. Question is then can Galileo properly do those missions?
If scientists can successfully bring it back through the asteroid belt and in tact to complete at least on of those failed missions, then it shows the versatility of the "new NASA". Galileo has already proven its ability in completing various missions, why not one more before it gets destroyed.
Personally, if saving Galileo is a priority and bringing it back would work, I believe that NASA could save face and return hope to the Mars priority it's been running with these past few years. Plus I'd like to be around when "The Martian Chronicles" begins to actually come to pass.
I guess you might say that's my two cents.
MS Technology that puts a ' where it belongs. I'm sure it's not that hard, but I mean symlinks took 1.5 years. So that solution is still at least 3 years down the road.