He means you need to add these to the cost of the Dell because it is impossible to subtract these from the Mac. Since the Mac is a reference, we are not holding it against Mac that these are bundled. I would still consider OS X a value if it accounts for difference between the price of the machines. 10.5 performs exceptionally on intel hardware.
Also, I think there is a little too much focus on the specs of the hardware, a better comparison would be at the performance level using benchmarks. My guess is that Macs would come out to be a better deal at this level, but I don't have time to do the comparisons.
I am a long time Mac user, but I won't hesitate to switch OSs when Linux gets all of the features I need. I was on a fresh fedora box yesterday and I was considering running a newer linux on my machine with OS X running in a VM. Then I came to my senses. In a few years, I don't think this idea is going to be to far fetched.
And we were told this sort of bug could NEVER happen in an open source operating system.
And when was the last time you certified that such things have not been part of your favorite closed source operating system for the last 20 years? Please provide the code for your favorite closed source operating system's RNG. I'm sure you feel very comfortable with the security of that code since you can review it and make sure the RNG is air tight and seeded properly.
this is how some of the old video games were "broken" despite using "random" numbers, the seed was always the same... leading to the same sequence of events
I remember getting a C on my 8th grade science project on this topic back in 1983. In short, I generated 10 random numbers, Power cycled the computer, and then generated 10 more random numbers. Both sets of 10 were identical. I made a poster with a magic marker. It took 20 minutes, tops. I'm glad the community is finally waking up to the importance of this work 25 years later. Maybe they will change my grade.
But the challenges and obstacles necessary to make this something commercially viable are huge
Not after you factor in the post-orwellian guide-wires that will blanket our cities by 2020. These wires will make the layer between the flying car ways and the UV dome, which will be too large to minimize inevitable pressure differentials caused from the solar harvesting steam generators. The subway tunnels? They converted them to prison cells after the revolution.
The point of moderation is to find and highlight gems not bitch slap people at random.
You must be new here, so I'll explain. Slashdot is a scientific community. We concern ourselves with inviolable scientific principles like Newton's First Law, Microscopic Reversibility, and Le Grande Balance Du Modpoints (the French did a lot of work in this area), which says "plus modpoints must equal minus modpoints". Random bitch slapping is essential to achieve this balance, especially given the well known dearth of trolls here.
Same on Trillian... dunno what this guy is talking about, or when the last time he tried was
Joe Jay Bee (1151309) is either a microsoft fanboi or microsoft shill. Check out his previous comments. Also note how quickly he posted on this article. Some people live worthless lives as mercenary propagandists. I guess there is nothing any of us people who live meaningful lives can do about it.
I was under the impression that people voted for the CCTV to be there, and if enough people cared, they could vote it away as well.
It's a lot harder to take a law off the books than it is to put one on. PROOF: number of laws now > number of laws 100 years ago. This formula holds for every stable political system. I know these cameras aren't "laws", but they are evidence of legislation. The problem is that people allow and ask for laws without proper consideration and their rights get nickel-and-dimed away. The price of this erosion of freedom is beginning to show. By the way, I am defining the word "right" as the right to do action X without breaking law Y, not the "Inalienable Rights" narrowly defined in the US Constitution. The rights about which I am talking are very hard to get back and rationalizing away the expense is not going to bring them back. BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.
If we could substitute the war on terror/drugs/pirating with the war on inconsiderate bastards, I'll volunteer extra tax money and elect every republican that comes along. But that's never going to happen because dog shit, "booming" stereos, car alarms, and loudmouth apartment dwellers just don't make front page news.
I'd say they would have quite a bit to lose actually.
Seems like they have more to gain if they stick it to their customers with these type of DRM measures. Who do you think pays this difference between what they have to lose and what they have to gain? I'll give you a hint: the person who buys the zune.
I live in a UK city and there are only a very small number of government-owned security cameras
Don't be lulled into a false sense of "security". There are more cameras than you can imagine. They can be quite small. I'm telling you this for your own benefit: you are being watched all of the time. This wasn't true 15 years ago, but it is now. Arguing about what to do about this fact is pointless because its too late. Its time to get used to the fact. Hopefully, none are installed in your home. If you are wise, you'll install a few of your own as a counter measure.
Your link is all the more profound when one realizes that 90% of the posts on this thread are from defensive windows programmers. So, my question is, whence the hostility, man? When mac users/programmers say "Our platform is great!", windows users/programmers don't say "Ours is too!", but rather insist on "No, you suck!". Its always the same story. Just thought I'd point it out. Here is what I say: "Get a friggin' life! If your OS is so great, then there is no reason to say how every one else sucks because they think theirs is too." Or do you have some deeper issues with your OS that we don't know about and this is the source of your hostility? Perhaps if you talk it through you will be happier. Or maybe you could switch to a good OS. Just a suggestion. No need to get defensive about it.
Try being a confused Polish immigrant in an airport whose murder by gung-ho cops with a taser was cut on video.
Perhaps this is the argument the airport would use to defend their actions:
You have to understand, killing the man was necessary. He was tying up valuable resources and had already broke a computer. People with the power to kill needed to be brought in to free the resources and prevent damaging further equipment. You will notice that no one was in danger when the cops in question arrived as the man was in a secure area. But we must not put the life and dignity of a man above our need to use airport facilities in an unabated way. Such killing should be considered highly economical and not vilified as you are doing here.
I've never been to Brazil, but it seems like you suffer from some sort of cultural centrism. People around the world are different from you because of historical and geographical conditions over which they or you have no control. You need to accept that and not be so hostile.
I was thinking that 1/2mv^2 must be related to e=mc^2 in some way.
E=mc**2 is the equivalent to saying that the energy "intrinsic" to an object the greatest amount of kinetic energy you can put into the object (if it behaves classically the whole time). In other words, the integration from -c to +c is like saying that if you have an object of a given mass going c to the left, and you started to put energy into it pushing to the right, then by the time it gets to c going to the right, you would have put as much kinetic energy into it as it has intrinsic energy. This would be true for purely classical behavior. Relativistic behavior doesn't allow this sort of thing so the process is physically impossible, but its interesting to think about the math this way.
You're lying and I caught you.
"The evidence or argument that compels the mind to accept an assertion as true."
First, how is that definition fundamentally different than the one I provided? Second, I'm not lying and you didn't "catch me". Diplomacy is not one of your strong points is it? Find a friend with a Mac with OS X 10.5.2, open the American Heritage dictionary that came with the OS, and type the word "proof". Don't forget to press [Enter].
Seriously, do you even know what the word "proof" means?
From American Heritage: evidence or argument helping to establish a fact or truth of a statement.
My reference to the existence of wikipedia, though not fulfilling the rigorous mathematical definition of "proof" you learned in geometry class, does fulfill the first definition in American Heritage as I have used it (note the word "argument" in the AH definition). Perhaps you should look up words in the dictionary before you attack people for using them improperly. Of course a better policy would be to restrain from attacking based on usage to minimize the potential for getting corrected yourself.
Don't forget the problem of "50% of the people are below average" I don't mean that as any kind of insult, just an observation of reality.
Yes, but the number of people who can make a contribution of any value depends on the tightness of that distribution. If it is possible to generate a measurement of "potential to contribute", I suspect the distribution of it would be fairly tight, especially if you measure intelligence using the greatest possible parameter space. For instance, what might be the metric to determine how greatly someone can contribute to the site colourlovers.com? How does one weight this metric with others, such as mathematical, musical, or literary aptitude? When one takes the entire parameter space into account, what distribution does one get for the population as a whole? I think it boils down to opportunity. As more opportunities to contribute avail themselves on the internet, we will see more benefits from the cognitive surplus.
I was thinking of posting anonymously because everyone agreeing with TFA is getting systematically modded down. But I'm going to stick my neck out on this one.
I think many people on this forum hope that they are the only ones who know how to type or make any sort of meaningful contribution on line. This is painful arrogance. I see a lot of: (1) "the statistics are meaningless" and (2) "most people are stupid and can contribute nothing" comments here. It gets redundant watching people who measure their IQ as a function inverse of their slashdot id.
The thing that escape those with this arrogance, though, is that everyone is able to contribute online. Every thought that comes out of people is a contribution to the collective consciousness, even if you make redundant groupthink posts on slashdot. Although a handful of websites (e.g. slashdot) pioneered online collaborative thought, they will not forever remain the only legitimate sources of such. For example, how many people have solved a programming or computer administration problem from a poorly written post by someone who "knew less" than themselves? I suspect many, although it may be tough for these individuals to admit.
And I'm not entirely convinced but I really hope he's right.
He's right and his proof was made before he wrote the article, evidenced by the existence of Wikipedia itself. For this one project alone, 1/10,000 of the cognitive surplus of one year has already been harvested.
He['s] making a compelling case for the end of the TV era.
One can only hope. The TV is last century technology. It brought information into the collective consciousness. Computers and the internet will likely prove to be as powerful this century.
His major point is that TV is a 1-way collective technology while computers are a 2-way collective technology. So, while advertisers and TV companies guided collective thought for the second half of last century, the internet makes it possible for the masses to guide collective thought today. Hopefully the trend will go in this direction. Only legislation could reverse it.
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He means you need to add these to the cost of the Dell because it is impossible to subtract these from the Mac. Since the Mac is a reference, we are not holding it against Mac that these are bundled. I would still consider OS X a value if it accounts for difference between the price of the machines. 10.5 performs exceptionally on intel hardware.
Also, I think there is a little too much focus on the specs of the hardware, a better comparison would be at the performance level using benchmarks. My guess is that Macs would come out to be a better deal at this level, but I don't have time to do the comparisons.
I am a long time Mac user, but I won't hesitate to switch OSs when Linux gets all of the features I need. I was on a fresh fedora box yesterday and I was considering running a newer linux on my machine with OS X running in a VM. Then I came to my senses. In a few years, I don't think this idea is going to be to far fetched.
And when was the last time you certified that such things have not been part of your favorite closed source operating system for the last 20 years? Please provide the code for your favorite closed source operating system's RNG. I'm sure you feel very comfortable with the security of that code since you can review it and make sure the RNG is air tight and seeded properly.
Still waiting on that code...
I remember getting a C on my 8th grade science project on this topic back in 1983. In short, I generated 10 random numbers, Power cycled the computer, and then generated 10 more random numbers. Both sets of 10 were identical. I made a poster with a magic marker. It took 20 minutes, tops. I'm glad the community is finally waking up to the importance of this work 25 years later. Maybe they will change my grade.
Not after you factor in the post-orwellian guide-wires that will blanket our cities by 2020. These wires will make the layer between the flying car ways and the UV dome, which will be too large to minimize inevitable pressure differentials caused from the solar harvesting steam generators. The subway tunnels? They converted them to prison cells after the revolution.
You must be new here, so I'll explain. Slashdot is a scientific community. We concern ourselves with inviolable scientific principles like Newton's First Law, Microscopic Reversibility, and Le Grande Balance Du Modpoints (the French did a lot of work in this area), which says "plus modpoints must equal minus modpoints". Random bitch slapping is essential to achieve this balance, especially given the well known dearth of trolls here.
That it hasn't broken in 30 years suggests that it won't break the next 30: http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/copernican-principle/
Joe Jay Bee (1151309) is either a microsoft fanboi or microsoft shill. Check out his previous comments. Also note how quickly he posted on this article. Some people live worthless lives as mercenary propagandists. I guess there is nothing any of us people who live meaningful lives can do about it.
It's a lot harder to take a law off the books than it is to put one on. PROOF: number of laws now > number of laws 100 years ago. This formula holds for every stable political system. I know these cameras aren't "laws", but they are evidence of legislation. The problem is that people allow and ask for laws without proper consideration and their rights get nickel-and-dimed away. The price of this erosion of freedom is beginning to show. By the way, I am defining the word "right" as the right to do action X without breaking law Y, not the "Inalienable Rights" narrowly defined in the US Constitution. The rights about which I am talking are very hard to get back and rationalizing away the expense is not going to bring them back. BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.
If we could substitute the war on terror/drugs/pirating with the war on inconsiderate bastards, I'll volunteer extra tax money and elect every republican that comes along. But that's never going to happen because dog shit, "booming" stereos, car alarms, and loudmouth apartment dwellers just don't make front page news.
Seems like they have more to gain if they stick it to their customers with these type of DRM measures. Who do you think pays this difference between what they have to lose and what they have to gain? I'll give you a hint: the person who buys the zune.
No, if you are true to form as a jaded windows user, you are going to say "All of you TRS-80 users suck." Go back and read my post.
Don't be lulled into a false sense of "security". There are more cameras than you can imagine. They can be quite small. I'm telling you this for your own benefit: you are being watched all of the time. This wasn't true 15 years ago, but it is now. Arguing about what to do about this fact is pointless because its too late. Its time to get used to the fact. Hopefully, none are installed in your home. If you are wise, you'll install a few of your own as a counter measure.
Your link is all the more profound when one realizes that 90% of the posts on this thread are from defensive windows programmers. So, my question is, whence the hostility, man? When mac users/programmers say "Our platform is great!", windows users/programmers don't say "Ours is too!", but rather insist on "No, you suck!". Its always the same story. Just thought I'd point it out. Here is what I say: "Get a friggin' life! If your OS is so great, then there is no reason to say how every one else sucks because they think theirs is too." Or do you have some deeper issues with your OS that we don't know about and this is the source of your hostility? Perhaps if you talk it through you will be happier. Or maybe you could switch to a good OS. Just a suggestion. No need to get defensive about it.
Perhaps this is the argument the airport would use to defend their actions:
You have to understand, killing the man was necessary. He was tying up valuable resources and had already broke a computer. People with the power to kill needed to be brought in to free the resources and prevent damaging further equipment. You will notice that no one was in danger when the cops in question arrived as the man was in a secure area. But we must not put the life and dignity of a man above our need to use airport facilities in an unabated way. Such killing should be considered highly economical and not vilified as you are doing here.
What? And leave the only part of the job they enjoy?
I've never been to Brazil, but it seems like you suffer from some sort of cultural centrism. People around the world are different from you because of historical and geographical conditions over which they or you have no control. You need to accept that and not be so hostile.
LaskoVortex's Law : The number of posts Goodwin's law is referenced after a reference to Hitler is approximately 1.
Beware Goodwin's law referencers: I'll be referencing LaskoVortex's law at every opportuinity.
It will only become Nazi enough for me when they come for me.
E=mc**2 is the equivalent to saying that the energy "intrinsic" to an object the greatest amount of kinetic energy you can put into the object (if it behaves classically the whole time). In other words, the integration from -c to +c is like saying that if you have an object of a given mass going c to the left, and you started to put energy into it pushing to the right, then by the time it gets to c going to the right, you would have put as much kinetic energy into it as it has intrinsic energy. This would be true for purely classical behavior. Relativistic behavior doesn't allow this sort of thing so the process is physically impossible, but its interesting to think about the math this way.
First, how is that definition fundamentally different than the one I provided? Second, I'm not lying and you didn't "catch me". Diplomacy is not one of your strong points is it? Find a friend with a Mac with OS X 10.5.2, open the American Heritage dictionary that came with the OS, and type the word "proof". Don't forget to press [Enter].
From American Heritage: evidence or argument helping to establish a fact or truth of a statement.
My reference to the existence of wikipedia, though not fulfilling the rigorous mathematical definition of "proof" you learned in geometry class, does fulfill the first definition in American Heritage as I have used it (note the word "argument" in the AH definition). Perhaps you should look up words in the dictionary before you attack people for using them improperly. Of course a better policy would be to restrain from attacking based on usage to minimize the potential for getting corrected yourself.
Yes, but the number of people who can make a contribution of any value depends on the tightness of that distribution. If it is possible to generate a measurement of "potential to contribute", I suspect the distribution of it would be fairly tight, especially if you measure intelligence using the greatest possible parameter space. For instance, what might be the metric to determine how greatly someone can contribute to the site colourlovers.com? How does one weight this metric with others, such as mathematical, musical, or literary aptitude? When one takes the entire parameter space into account, what distribution does one get for the population as a whole? I think it boils down to opportunity. As more opportunities to contribute avail themselves on the internet, we will see more benefits from the cognitive surplus.
I was thinking of posting anonymously because everyone agreeing with TFA is getting systematically modded down. But I'm going to stick my neck out on this one.
I think many people on this forum hope that they are the only ones who know how to type or make any sort of meaningful contribution on line. This is painful arrogance. I see a lot of: (1) "the statistics are meaningless" and (2) "most people are stupid and can contribute nothing" comments here. It gets redundant watching people who measure their IQ as a function inverse of their slashdot id.
The thing that escape those with this arrogance, though, is that everyone is able to contribute online. Every thought that comes out of people is a contribution to the collective consciousness, even if you make redundant groupthink posts on slashdot. Although a handful of websites (e.g. slashdot) pioneered online collaborative thought, they will not forever remain the only legitimate sources of such. For example, how many people have solved a programming or computer administration problem from a poorly written post by someone who "knew less" than themselves? I suspect many, although it may be tough for these individuals to admit.
You are proof of this!
He's right and his proof was made before he wrote the article, evidenced by the existence of Wikipedia itself. For this one project alone, 1/10,000 of the cognitive surplus of one year has already been harvested.
He['s] making a compelling case for the end of the TV era.One can only hope. The TV is last century technology. It brought information into the collective consciousness. Computers and the internet will likely prove to be as powerful this century.
His major point is that TV is a 1-way collective technology while computers are a 2-way collective technology. So, while advertisers and TV companies guided collective thought for the second half of last century, the internet makes it possible for the masses to guide collective thought today. Hopefully the trend will go in this direction. Only legislation could reverse it.