Smooth transition possible through mincome
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If we replace today's welfare systems with mincome, we can make a smooth and bloodless transition from capitalism to a post-scarcity economy - as more government-owned autonomous labor produces more, mincome can increase as the demand for work decreases...until at some point there's no need to work and lots of resources to go around.
It won't lead to a population increase - only adults get mincome and highly educated people reproduce less.
That's because it's possibly the only relationship type that could actually be bad for society in an objective, measurable way. Monogamous marriage conveniently gives us guys a stable supply of women by preventing wealthy men from keeping harems (the best they can do is cheat rampantly). Otherwise you'd have a lot of pissed-off guys who don't value their lives too much. See: Middle east, right now; Dudes blowing themselves up for afterlife virgins.
There are 3 different fields of problems that could doom our civilization: Energy, Economic, Population Growth.
The energy problems are actually the smallest. I don't want to take a "don't worry, the future will solve it" attitude because that's incredibly irresponsible, but I think we're on a path to solving global warming by accident. Solar cells are getting cheaper and more efficient, electric cars are looking better every day, fossil fuels are getting more expensive and it's getting harder to socialize the losses involved in their use. We're already in for some nasty effects of global warming, nothing we can do about that without a time machine, but in the long term I think this is a problem that will take care of itself if we stay on the right path. That's the path the denialist crowd is trying to steer us off of. I think we've already passed peak per-capita energy use, for any time period in which we'll have to worry about how much energy people are using. We were wasting it badly in the past decades and are still wasting it pretty hard today. People in the future will be amazed at how much energy we consumed through waste.
Economic and population growth are much bigger problems. We have to do something very different economically. All we can do by making alterations to capitalism is buy ourselves some time with it. I have no idea how anyone could see it as "elegant" or "self-regulating." It's a dumb chaotic half-baked "system" full of nasty positive feedback loops and minefielded with unnecessary catastrophic failure conditions. It appeared to work "OK" for a couple of centuries (largely because our standards were so low) as long as we kept furiously fiddling with the dials, but automation and wealth concentration are utterly breaking it. And if you look at the big picture, it's always been horrendously inefficient and has done a poor job of serving humanity. I think the best solution would be to use mincome to make a smooth transition to a society where automated production provides resources to everyone.
That ties into the population problem. The good news is that educated people do a decent job of limiting how many kids they have. The bad news is that the path to making everyone highly educated will cause a population explosion. So one way out is to try to make everyone highly educated before the population level starts causing major problems, but it's scary - it's like your DeLorean is headed for a wall at 80mph, you don't think you can stop in time, so you hit the gas to try to reach 88mph and get to where the wall doesn't exist instead. Scary and potentially fatal, but maybe the best way out.
How many are weapons-grade morons who believe in mystical future-telling, and how many simply mixed up astronomy with astrology and would have corrected themselves if the survey made the difference clear?
Well we're already deep into an impact safety arms race...
I wonder if part of it is that BMW/Merc drivers simply enjoy blinding the poors they drive past, forcing them to slow down and pull to the side to avoid an accident. It must inflate their sense of superiority for their car to inconvenience so many other people.
Possibly. A lot of Chinese people, in China, are apparently offended by any reminder of the "June 4 incident." Look up what happened when Cirque du Soleil used a pic of Tank Man in a background video in one of their performances:
Huh, communist? Well I guess it's a lot like how communism turned out in practice - concentrating all productivity to lavish luxury on the "politburo" while making promises of helping everyone better themselves and failing miserably at it, until the whole system collapsed under the disproportionate consumption of the politburo. Like jumping into the later stages of capitalism and then playing out the end at high speed.
In theory, it's closest to a fascist dictatorship.
How is the Western world pulling radical Islamic speech from YouTube etc. really different from the Chinese censoring religions they don't like? And I don't think their government has granted anything as powerful and unaccountable as the DMCA to their corporations...
Radically? I'd say not from a layman's point of view. The biggest that happened in my lifetime is probably finding organ details of dinosaurs that indicate they weren't cold-blooded like modern lizards.
It shouldn't be a surprise that so many species have gone unknown, especially as far back as the Cambrian period. The odds of a creature being fossilized are very low after all.
In the case of unlit towers, it is simply illegal to build a structure over a certain height with no lights on it. For RC planes, they aren't allowed to fly over a certain ceiling altitude or in areas near airports.
Well here's a reward, you got a potential mass-murderer busted and reduced the chances of him making another attempt. You might have even saved the lives of everyone on another flight that day.
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If we replace today's welfare systems with mincome, we can make a smooth and bloodless transition from capitalism to a post-scarcity economy - as more government-owned autonomous labor produces more, mincome can increase as the demand for work decreases...until at some point there's no need to work and lots of resources to go around.
It won't lead to a population increase - only adults get mincome and highly educated people reproduce less.
That's because it's possibly the only relationship type that could actually be bad for society in an objective, measurable way. Monogamous marriage conveniently gives us guys a stable supply of women by preventing wealthy men from keeping harems (the best they can do is cheat rampantly). Otherwise you'd have a lot of pissed-off guys who don't value their lives too much. See: Middle east, right now; Dudes blowing themselves up for afterlife virgins.
You're looking for a "cisgender straight female" (or maybe "cisgender bi female" ;-) ) HTH!
There are 3 different fields of problems that could doom our civilization: Energy, Economic, Population Growth.
The energy problems are actually the smallest. I don't want to take a "don't worry, the future will solve it" attitude because that's incredibly irresponsible, but I think we're on a path to solving global warming by accident. Solar cells are getting cheaper and more efficient, electric cars are looking better every day, fossil fuels are getting more expensive and it's getting harder to socialize the losses involved in their use. We're already in for some nasty effects of global warming, nothing we can do about that without a time machine, but in the long term I think this is a problem that will take care of itself if we stay on the right path. That's the path the denialist crowd is trying to steer us off of. I think we've already passed peak per-capita energy use, for any time period in which we'll have to worry about how much energy people are using. We were wasting it badly in the past decades and are still wasting it pretty hard today. People in the future will be amazed at how much energy we consumed through waste.
Economic and population growth are much bigger problems. We have to do something very different economically. All we can do by making alterations to capitalism is buy ourselves some time with it. I have no idea how anyone could see it as "elegant" or "self-regulating." It's a dumb chaotic half-baked "system" full of nasty positive feedback loops and minefielded with unnecessary catastrophic failure conditions. It appeared to work "OK" for a couple of centuries (largely because our standards were so low) as long as we kept furiously fiddling with the dials, but automation and wealth concentration are utterly breaking it. And if you look at the big picture, it's always been horrendously inefficient and has done a poor job of serving humanity. I think the best solution would be to use mincome to make a smooth transition to a society where automated production provides resources to everyone.
That ties into the population problem. The good news is that educated people do a decent job of limiting how many kids they have. The bad news is that the path to making everyone highly educated will cause a population explosion. So one way out is to try to make everyone highly educated before the population level starts causing major problems, but it's scary - it's like your DeLorean is headed for a wall at 80mph, you don't think you can stop in time, so you hit the gas to try to reach 88mph and get to where the wall doesn't exist instead. Scary and potentially fatal, but maybe the best way out.
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Ooooh, if all our cars were powered by Woman's Scorn they would be quick like Lambos and sound even meaner!
They sure did. Palm also accepted the Microsoft Mobile Kiss of Death, so Nokia didn't even learn from history.
So let's see how "pissing in your pants to keep warm" works out :D
Yeah so that big far bikini it soars!
(Missed first post by this much!)
For some reason, my first thought when I saw the guy slowly walking through the building swinging that thing around was "CyberPope"
Yes! Only deregulation and unrestricted free markets can get a Corvette into your under-building cave! Vote Ron Paul for free Corvettes from above!
This doesn't get mentioned enough:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
Nope it's a '95 and very spartan. Newest car I own in fact. I have a '91 where the two sun visors are contoured to fill that space.
How many are weapons-grade morons who believe in mystical future-telling, and how many simply mixed up astronomy with astrology and would have corrected themselves if the survey made the difference clear?
We don't have Tiburons...but we do have some ill-tempered Plymouth Barracudas.
Depends which way you're driving. The sun shines directly into my eyeballs from just above my rearview mirror on my commute home.
Well we're already deep into an impact safety arms race...
I wonder if part of it is that BMW/Merc drivers simply enjoy blinding the poors they drive past, forcing them to slow down and pull to the side to avoid an accident. It must inflate their sense of superiority for their car to inconvenience so many other people.
SHOOP DA WOOOP!!!!
To make it clear that Taiwan, Tibet and the Senkaku islands are not included of course...if it gets on China's nerves, I'd support it.
In my experience, you're more likely to get Megafucked by Microsoft.
Possibly. A lot of Chinese people, in China, are apparently offended by any reminder of the "June 4 incident." Look up what happened when Cirque du Soleil used a pic of Tank Man in a background video in one of their performances:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/15/...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08...
So maybe they have become their own censors and Bing gives them what they want.
Huh, communist? Well I guess it's a lot like how communism turned out in practice - concentrating all productivity to lavish luxury on the "politburo" while making promises of helping everyone better themselves and failing miserably at it, until the whole system collapsed under the disproportionate consumption of the politburo. Like jumping into the later stages of capitalism and then playing out the end at high speed.
In theory, it's closest to a fascist dictatorship.
Not at +5 yet! Mod up!
How is the Western world pulling radical Islamic speech from YouTube etc. really different from the Chinese censoring religions they don't like? And I don't think their government has granted anything as powerful and unaccountable as the DMCA to their corporations...
Radically? I'd say not from a layman's point of view. The biggest that happened in my lifetime is probably finding organ details of dinosaurs that indicate they weren't cold-blooded like modern lizards.
It shouldn't be a surprise that so many species have gone unknown, especially as far back as the Cambrian period. The odds of a creature being fossilized are very low after all.
In the case of unlit towers, it is simply illegal to build a structure over a certain height with no lights on it. For RC planes, they aren't allowed to fly over a certain ceiling altitude or in areas near airports.
Well here's a reward, you got a potential mass-murderer busted and reduced the chances of him making another attempt. You might have even saved the lives of everyone on another flight that day.