Did anyone ever get qmail to work under xinetd?.. I never could.. the stupid thing would then not allow smtp mail.. maybe I just configured it wrong but I went back to using regular inetd (works fine really as long as you know what you're running) so I could at least get mail.
I like qmail.. so much easier to configure than the sendmail beast.
I've never seen Linux crash. I've seen X-Windows crash, which I think is what you're refering to. A great many people confuse the two.. but don't realise that Linux is in fact working away quite happily in the background and a simple Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you to a console where you can close or restart X if it's locked up. Or simply just reboot normally if it's easier.
Actually, I lie.. I have seen Linux crash.. but that wasn't its fault.. I had a machine with a faulty SIMM socket and half the machine's memory
disappeared on it for a moment.. no wonder it caused a kernel panic (that's a Linux crash - if the kernel doesn't panic, it's not a Linux crash)
I agree with you that Windows is a pain in the ass to debug if there's problems as there's no really useful information or logs available.
I can't believe NASA use Windows over Linux..
PS: Netscape and Star Office are applications, not operating systems.. I'm not trying to be picky.. I just want to give you the correct terms:)
I also usually run with Java and Javascript off...
Possibly offtopic, but has anyone else noticed that when you turn off Javascript in Netscape and even if you leave stylesheets 'enabled', stylesheets still don't work?.. is that a subtlety of Javascript that I missed or is it a bug in Netscape?
I'd like to run without Java and Javascript enabled too as I agree they suck ass, but as they screw up stylesheets I'm a bit reluctant to turn them off.. anyone have any suggestions?
And oscillate back and forth with gravity until 'caught' (something along the lines of a large net).. yea.. could be fun.. what if you're never caught though?:) --
And it will be time consuming for someone to convert their mp3s to this format.
That's if it'd be any good to do that.. the loss you'd get from unencoding/decompressing the lossy compression and then RE-encoding would be awful probably and would obsure any benefit from the new method.
No, have to start again from CDs I expect to embrace this new standard.:/
You're right, that would look cool... maybe some sort of motherboard 'bulb' for it would work, with a nice big air hose to put drives in.. dunno how you'd do the cards though. Sounds like a funky idea for a project anyway:D
I was thinking 'what about fingers?'.. that blade looks pretty damn sharp, you could cut yourself up if you opened it before it had stopped spinning... and I also hope no wires drift towards it.. slice, fizzle.. there didn't seem to be a guard internally that I could see.
As for splashes, it did look like there was clear plastic sheeting around the fan and the case to make it more of a 'case' than a 'frame'.
Why not replace the Linux TCP/IP stack with the FreeBSD one then? drivers and all.. I thought that's what open source was about.. not having to reinvent the wheel from scratch because your mate over the fence happens to have a smoother rounder wheel than you do. You just ask if you can copy it.
Do I have too simplistic a view of it?.. I'm sure it wouldn't be a case of just 'plopping' in a new stack 'module'.. but surely if it's all kernel stuff then it could happen in just this one place. Once it's done, it's done.. hurrah to Alan Cox etc..
Tried saving unix file permissions in a.zip file?.. my case rests. Just because you don't know what to do with them doesn't mean they are not useful for other people. Also gzip, IIRC, as in what the tar (TApe Archive for the REALLY un-clued) is passed through to compress it, has a higher compression ratio than Zip compression.
Where'd this 'many many more people use zip' comment come from?? obviously in windows-land they do.. that's plainly obvious.
No, it's called people who can't be arsed to learn something for themselves and need endless hand-holding to get through it. Instead of posting a very crap and flamebaity post ('moon-man format' indeed), those who do not know something should TRY and find out, there's LOTS of info available. and if they're stuck and want help they should ASK NICELY.. it's not much to ask.. jeez. Courteous questions always get courteous replies. Acting like a fuckwit gets you rightly labelled as one.
Indeed.. if you're using Linux as a server platform then you need to be aware of everything running on the machine from the very start, no amount of hand-holding will help. The simplest thing as well is to choose Custom and NOT EVEN INSTALL extraneous packages at the base install. If you need it, rpm -i is nice and simple to operate, and there's probably later versions to install anyway by the time the installation CD is in your drive.
I didn't know that 6.2 turned off network in Workstation mode, that's nice to know should I ever be asked about it, thanks for the tip:)
One benefit to leaving the services enabled is that it allows access to the machine so you can set the damn thing up. No thanks to Mandrake 7.0 here.. upon installation the thing was closed to everything but localhost.. nice and secure, yea.. but difficult to configure when you can't telnet to it to start installing stuff like ssh etc. Of course that's great if the system is a workstation but annoying for a starting server config - I'd rather have full access to the machine and then lock things down.. I don't know if Mandrake now has 'workstation' / 'server' modes in it like RedHat?
If anyone has read the Iain M. Banks 'Culture' novels, you might know where I'm going with this..
Genetic manipulation is fine and could push humans into the next stage of 'evolution' if you will. That all depends on the society that governs genetical manipulation is 'grown up' and 'civilized' enough to be able to accept it in every day life and not discriminate. Self-modification based on needs of the environment or even person will COULD be a viable future and a healthy one, providing EVERYONE involved is mature enough to handle it properly.
Of course, the Culture novels are an idealistic concept but I think anyone who reads them would see that genetic manipulation is shown to 'work' in those stories as the Culture is sufficiently advanced to be able to handle it properly.
At this stage of the game though, it's anyone's guess what will happen. And more and more people will guess (probably correctly) that there will be problems before there's the 'utopia'.
Get some balls and start telling it like it is, even if it means buying the card.
Start your own site then. It's easy to spend other people's money.
Of course reviews come down to subjective thinking.. that's the whole point.
If you think you might like a board based on what you've heard AND what you can verify with your own experiences (friend's computer, PC store etc) then get it. If you don't like it, take it back. You don't have to take everyone's opinions as gospel. Some reservation SHOULD be given to the fact that reviews are going to be biased in some way. Either by 'the man' or more simply (and more often) that it's really *just* someone's point of view.
You're right.. that is a very fascinating read and it does good to hear a reasoned argument instead of the paranoia-mongering that Katz seems to have in his articles.
That article was written over 3 years ago.. not a lot has happened though since then to actually get this idea to become a reality.
It looks so CUTE:)... now my question is - Can you get the hardware (to run LinuxPPC on) without the MacOS-Tax?... probably not... that's always so sad when I would love to have a cute lil server like that for running Linux on... they're just so expensive:/
I'd like to know by what piece of logic they say spiders are tresspassing, and people who browser but don't buy aren't.
It comes down to $$$ in the end, like most things. Spiders don't click on adverts. People, while they may not always shop or whatever, DO see these adverts. If a site cannot say that on all the pageviews it gets that they aren't actual PEOPLE staring at their ads then that site may well lose ad revenue.
Of course you cannot stop people deep-linking your site, but if you do not make the links well known (i.e. indexed) then a great number of people would not know the URL to start with, apart from those that HAVE 'come in the front door' so to speak.
Under *nix, there is no appreciable difference between being at the machine and being remote beyond possible lag (because of bandwidth) and not being able to hit the power.
Yes, I love that about Linux.. although I remember wanting to hit the power when I need to remotely shut down a machine that I thought would lose its power (bad storm in the area, knew the machine wasn't on a UPS and it was too far away to drive to turn off).. I had to just do 'shutdown -h now' and if the power went it went.. prolly not too bad but it would have been nice to know it was all OFF before any glitches, you know?
I would have thought there would be a command by now to turn the machine off in the same way that windows 9x does when you shut it down on an ATX machine. Anyone know of one?
If you could log the md5sum of an email in a log along with the SMTP ID, IP etc.. you wouldn't actually log the DATA, but rather the means to authenticate that data if it was presented to you. md5 does just what you describe you want 'a metric' to do.
Of course adding 'fwd:' etc changes that md5sum.. as do forwarding headers etc.. maybe just the body text of the mail without '> ' forward quoting could be compared. i.e. get the harasee forward all text of the message without editing it after they have voiced (in a previous email) what their problem is.
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Did anyone ever get qmail to work under xinetd? .. I never could .. the stupid thing would then not allow smtp mail .. maybe I just configured it wrong but I went back to using regular inetd (works fine really as long as you know what you're running) so I could at least get mail.
.. so much easier to configure than the sendmail beast.
I like qmail
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I've never seen Linux crash. I've seen X-Windows crash, which I think is what you're refering to. A great many people confuse the two.. but don't realise that Linux is in fact working away quite happily in the background and a simple Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you to a console where you can close or restart X if it's locked up. Or simply just reboot normally if it's easier.
.. I'm not trying to be picky.. I just want to give you the correct terms :)
Actually, I lie.. I have seen Linux crash.. but that wasn't its fault.. I had a machine with a faulty SIMM socket and half the machine's memory
disappeared on it for a moment.. no wonder it caused a kernel panic (that's a Linux crash - if the kernel doesn't panic, it's not a Linux crash)
I agree with you that Windows is a pain in the ass to debug if there's problems as there's no really useful information or logs available.
I can't believe NASA use Windows over Linux..
PS: Netscape and Star Office are applications, not operating systems
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I also usually run with Java and Javascript off ...
.. is that a subtlety of Javascript that I missed or is it a bug in Netscape?
Possibly offtopic, but has anyone else noticed that when you turn off Javascript in Netscape and even if you leave stylesheets 'enabled', stylesheets still don't work?
I'd like to run without Java and Javascript enabled too as I agree they suck ass, but as they screw up stylesheets I'm a bit reluctant to turn them off.. anyone have any suggestions?
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And oscillate back and forth with gravity until 'caught' (something along the lines of a large net) .. yea.. could be fun.. what if you're never caught though? :)
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You mean you've never played that game? .. and I think he means it in reference to Hollowman ...
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And it will be time consuming for someone to convert their mp3s to this format.
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That's if it'd be any good to do that.. the loss you'd get from unencoding/decompressing the lossy compression and then RE-encoding would be awful probably and would obsure any benefit from the new method.
No, have to start again from CDs I expect to embrace this new standard.
So I agree with you... why bother?
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You're right, that would look cool ... maybe some sort of motherboard 'bulb' for it would work, with a nice big air hose to put drives in.. dunno how you'd do the cards though. Sounds like a funky idea for a project anyway :D
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I was thinking 'what about fingers?' .. that blade looks pretty damn sharp, you could cut yourself up if you opened it before it had stopped spinning ... and I also hope no wires drift towards it .. slice, fizzle .. there didn't seem to be a guard internally that I could see.
As for splashes, it did look like there was clear plastic sheeting around the fan and the case to make it more of a 'case' than a 'frame'.
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Why not replace the Linux TCP/IP stack with the FreeBSD one then? drivers and all .. I thought that's what open source was about.. not having to reinvent the wheel from scratch because your mate over the fence happens to have a smoother rounder wheel than you do. You just ask if you can copy it.
.. I'm sure it wouldn't be a case of just 'plopping' in a new stack 'module'.. but surely if it's all kernel stuff then it could happen in just this one place. Once it's done, it's done.. hurrah to Alan Cox etc..
Do I have too simplistic a view of it?
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Just wanted to say thanks for posting that mirror :) .. SF has been unavailable to me all day :D
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Okay, I'll bite at the troll post..
.zip file? .. my case rests. Just because you don't know what to do with them doesn't mean they are not useful for other people. Also gzip, IIRC, as in what the tar (TApe Archive for the REALLY un-clued) is passed through to compress it, has a higher compression ratio than Zip compression.
Tried saving unix file permissions in a
Where'd this 'many many more people use zip' comment come from?? obviously in windows-land they do.. that's plainly obvious.
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No, it's called people who can't be arsed to learn something for themselves and need endless hand-holding to get through it. Instead of posting a very crap and flamebaity post ('moon-man format' indeed), those who do not know something should TRY and find out, there's LOTS of info available. and if they're stuck and want help they should ASK NICELY .. it's not much to ask.. jeez. Courteous questions always get courteous replies. Acting like a fuckwit gets you rightly labelled as one.
Get over yourself already.
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Indeed.. if you're using Linux as a server platform then you need to be aware of everything running on the machine from the very start, no amount of hand-holding will help. The simplest thing as well is to choose Custom and NOT EVEN INSTALL extraneous packages at the base install. If you need it, rpm -i is nice and simple to operate, and there's probably later versions to install anyway by the time the installation CD is in your drive.
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I didn't know that 6.2 turned off network in Workstation mode, that's nice to know should I ever be asked about it, thanks for the tip
One benefit to leaving the services enabled is that it allows access to the machine so you can set the damn thing up. No thanks to Mandrake 7.0 here.. upon installation the thing was closed to everything but localhost.. nice and secure, yea.. but difficult to configure when you can't telnet to it to start installing stuff like ssh etc. Of course that's great if the system is a workstation but annoying for a starting server config - I'd rather have full access to the machine and then lock things down.. I don't know if Mandrake now has 'workstation' / 'server' modes in it like RedHat?
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If anyone has read the Iain M. Banks 'Culture' novels, you might know where I'm going with this..
Genetic manipulation is fine and could push humans into the next stage of 'evolution' if you will. That all depends on the society that governs genetical manipulation is 'grown up' and 'civilized' enough to be able to accept it in every day life and not discriminate. Self-modification based on needs of the environment or even person will COULD be a viable future and a healthy one, providing EVERYONE involved is mature enough to handle it properly.
Of course, the Culture novels are an idealistic concept but I think anyone who reads them would see that genetic manipulation is shown to 'work' in those stories as the Culture is sufficiently advanced to be able to handle it properly.
At this stage of the game though, it's anyone's guess what will happen. And more and more people will guess (probably correctly) that there will be problems before there's the 'utopia'.
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A bit of a redundant 'me too' post, I know, but
Amen to that!!
You hit the nail on the head with that one.
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You can also use http://www.x.com/ to get there too .. saves typing in paypal, paypai .. or whatever.
www.paypal.com redirects to www.x.com anyway.
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Get some balls and start telling it like it is, even if it means buying the card.
Start your own site then. It's easy to spend other people's money.
Of course reviews come down to subjective thinking.. that's the whole point.
If you think you might like a board based on what you've heard AND what you can verify with your own experiences (friend's computer, PC store etc) then get it. If you don't like it, take it back. You don't have to take everyone's opinions as gospel. Some reservation SHOULD be given to the fact that reviews are going to be biased in some way. Either by 'the man' or more simply (and more often) that it's really *just* someone's point of view.
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You're right.. that is a very fascinating read and it does good to hear a reasoned argument instead of the paranoia-mongering that Katz seems to have in his articles.
That article was written over 3 years ago.. not a lot has happened though since then to actually get this idea to become a reality.
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It looks so CUTE :) ... now my question is - Can you get the hardware (to run LinuxPPC on) without the MacOS-Tax? ... probably not ... that's always so sad when I would love to have a cute lil server like that for running Linux on... they're just so expensive :/
Ah.. I can dream I guess..
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I'd like to know by what piece of logic they say spiders are tresspassing, and people who browser but don't buy aren't.
It comes down to $$$ in the end, like most things. Spiders don't click on adverts. People, while they may not always shop or whatever, DO see these adverts. If a site cannot say that on all the pageviews it gets that they aren't actual PEOPLE staring at their ads then that site may well lose ad revenue.
Of course you cannot stop people deep-linking your site, but if you do not make the links well known (i.e. indexed) then a great number of people would not know the URL to start with, apart from those that HAVE 'come in the front door' so to speak.
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Under *nix, there is no appreciable difference between being at the machine and being remote beyond possible lag (because of bandwidth) and not being able to hit the power.
.. although I remember wanting to hit the power when I need to remotely shut down a machine that I thought would lose its power (bad storm in the area, knew the machine wasn't on a UPS and it was too far away to drive to turn off) .. I had to just do 'shutdown -h now' and if the power went it went.. prolly not too bad but it would have been nice to know it was all OFF before any glitches, you know?
Yes, I love that about Linux
I would have thought there would be a command by now to turn the machine off in the same way that windows 9x does when you shut it down on an ATX machine. Anyone know of one?
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with all of the anonymity the Katz goes on about, how on earth does he know the real age of people on-line?
Katz has never had a clue in his life and will probably never *ever* get one.
Don't they lock up people like this that just want to gibber to hear themselves 'gibber'?
NFC
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What's the view like from the computer-room ceiling? .. care to share?
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I still prefer my 5yr old 15' ADI at home
.. but wouldn't a 15' monitor be amusing?...
:) ... imagine that taking up one side of your 'gaming barn' (sounds like a fun idea in itself) ..
I know you meant 15"
Quake3, Half-Life - AT LIFE SIZE
Of course the graphics resolution to drive such a thing so it wasn't a big chunky mess would have to be amazing..
Cool..
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If you could log the md5sum of an email in a log along with the SMTP ID, IP etc.. you wouldn't actually log the DATA, but rather the means to authenticate that data if it was presented to you. md5 does just what you describe you want 'a metric' to do.
.. as do forwarding headers etc.. maybe just the body text of the mail without '> ' forward quoting could be compared. i.e. get the harasee forward all text of the message without editing it after they have voiced (in a previous email) what their problem is.
Of course adding 'fwd:' etc changes that md5sum
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