Huh? Comey - a Republican - is being criticized for Democrats for organizing an 11-days-before-the-election hit-and-run against her, and your argument is that he's biased toward her? And that's why he did this 11 days before the election, I take it?
And that the previous results of the investigation were a whitewash, in which he publicly tarred her.
Correction: the FBI is not reopening the case, they're assessing some emails that they found in a different investigation to see if they are relevant. If they are relevant to Clinton, and if they contain classified information, then it's possible in the future that they might reopen the case. But that's not what the FBI said - that's all speculation by politicians looking for a "hook" to keep attacking Clinton.
I have tons of emails I've been getting lately from Hillary. I shall rescue them from the spam filter and send them to Comey to reopen the case.
"False exculpatory statements" also can result when the defendants believe what they are saying. You are arguing that she clearly knew she was guilty as proved by her deliberately lying and that she was clearly lying deliberately as proved by her knowledge of her guilt. You and Mr. Gowdy live in a very circumscribed universe.
HP calls theirs a touchstyk.
Not only are they more precise than Touchpads and mice they take up zero excess real estate and you don't take your hands off the keyboard to use them. Why do mice and TouchPads still exist?
His flaw is assuming that his assumptions are even close to being accurate. The problem with these kinds of thought processes, is that they are fraught with limited thinking. Do you know how hard it is to keep exponential growth going for any length of time? And he wants it going for... thousands of years. He has no idea what it will take to make that exponential growth keep going indefinitely forever, nor the consequences of that growth on humanity.
There are way too many assumptions, way too many unproven constants. He isn't as smart as he thinks he is, and that is where the problems start for his "simulation theory". I actually understand that I couldn't begin to theorize what things might exist in 20 years, let alone 1000, 5000, or 10,000 years down the road.
but there's a tiny tiny chance that somewhere somebody is looking at a monitor saying "Whoo, look, that little critter got it right! Ha, what are the odds?"
If we lived in a computer simulation, surely we would have some remaining concept of a Scientist that created the Simulation, and us inside it. The Scientist, who can change the software parameters, and can do absolutely anything in our Universe, and knows everything too, but limits His own powers to observe what we do, and, even if He knows the end result, let us choose our destiny with free will (FreeWill_Parameter = True).
As no such idea exists anywhere, I guess it's safe to say that we aren't in a simulation.
we can't even get the people who put together operating systems to get the bugs worked out, i wouldn't expect the Programmer to have the powers of omniscience and omnipotence in His creation.
Completely missing the point. The actual argument for a simulation doesn't rest on anything remotely like that. The primary argument is that it looks like under the laws of physics, simulations should be possible. It also seems likely that an advanced species would be interested in making simulations of their ancestors and would likely make many such simulations. Thus, if one thinks that society is likely to survive to a very high tech level, one should expect if one is a remotely interesting time period that one is much more likely to be a simulation than the original. There are problems with this argument (and I don't buy it), but it is far more interesting than simply dismissing it as akin to belief in religion or gods. It is unfortunate that you and many others in this thread are simply ridiculing the argument rather than actually addressing it.
but how do you know the difference between reality and a sim? how does reality "exist" in any completely objectively provable way, distinct from what a sim would be like? "I think therefore I am" but that's really about as far as you can take it.
by the end, those holodeck stories were just going wild. whenever they needed some plot twist, the holodeck developed another property. kind of like the Jeffries tubes, but fancier.
And VM guests can't break out of the hypervisor... Oh wait, they can, if the hypervisor is buggy.
If the universe is a simulation, it is a pretty complex one. Bugs would be expected.
However, humanity has access to such a infinitesimal fraction of the universe, it would be unexpected to find bugs in simple parts like ours. The bugs would seem more likely in less tested parts of the code, like at extreme energies or very small distances.
If I exist in this simulated reality, then I only exist because of the simulation. Shut down the simulation and I cease to exist.
This.
Tech billionaires and a lot of slashdot users hear "You are living in a simulation" and they think "Neo in the matrix" rather than "Agent in the matrix"
I think this is because they are dumb.
Well yeah, they are simulated that way.
You ever wonder if most people have any inner life? Even without us being a sim, what if there are only like a million (or a dozen, or a billion) actual human beings alive at any given time, and the rest of the population are just basically breeding stock going through the motions to provide support for the occasional genetic accident that produces a real human? Would explain history pretty well.
I exist because of the result of biological processes that seek to procreate
No. That is the reason that your constituent atoms have a particular form and function. But it is not the reason they exist in the first place.
Science tells us that the Universe began as an infinitely dense singularity 13.85 billion years ago. We have no idea why that happened, but the answer is not "Darwin", since that skips over the first 10 billion years, especially those first few planck times.
Well, sort of by definition, circular reasoning, and law of physics, we exist because that's a lower energy configuration than us not existing.
It's called Gnosticism, and it has been around since at least the Second Century.
Gnocchiism; the belief that the universe is a large soft dumpling created by a divine figure known as "the chef".
not to be confused with Agnesticism, the belief that the universe was created by a little kid in the Despicable Me movie.
> American law doesn't require that Trump outsource his work overseas
In many industries, that is in fact the effect of US law. US labor and tax laws are such that the total cost to employ workers in the US is roughly 2.3Ã-- their take-home pay. So employees taking home $10/hour cost roughly $23/hour once you pay various federal, state and local taxes, unemployment, workers comp, etc etc. So of you have a widget that requires $10 of material and one hour labor @ $10/hour, production cost is about $33. $10 materials, $10 to employee, $13 taxes and compliance). Since it costs $33 to make under US law, obviously you can't wholesale it for any less than $33 production cost.
100 miles south, your competitor producing a nearly identical product has production in Mexico, where the cost is $10 material, $10 to the worker, and $5 taxes and compliance. Total production cost $25. This competitor can wholesale at $30 and have a 20% margin.
The person buying wholesale can pay $30 for the product made in northern Mexico, or at least $33 for the US-made one (which still leaves the US manufacturer zero profit). Which do you think the retailer will choose to buy? The less expensive one, obviously. The company with much higher tax and compliance costs goes out of business.
In most countries, business taxes and similar costs are based on the motivation to have business in their country. In the US, we have a significant interert group influencing policy based primarily on emotions, including envy, with no understanding of, or concern for, the economics or the results of the policies they support. "Fuck those companies" is this groups attitude, and the companies respond with "okay, we're not wanted here; we'll go where we're wanted".
You can see the same effect between US states. Many billions of dollars of businesses have moved from California to Texas due to the tax and regulation in California. Unemployment has gotten bad in California, while there are plenty of jobs in Texas.
yeah, if you're selling Walmart crap and commodities, you can't afford to skip the lowest cost provider, i.e. (China or sometimes other Far East.) On the other hand, if you're selling quality, the Best; all those other epithets Trump applies in is sales pitches, well, people in that biz do in fact manufacture their stuff in the US, or anywhere else they can get the best quality, and people pay the price that requires. Ferraris aren't built in Korea. And it's not that Trump's various sales failures have been priced to compete on value. He's just got a rich man's tongue and a poor man's wallet.
that we expect to be present being hijacked for nefarious purposes. And even if I don't plug my TV set into my home network, what's to stop it from turning on its WiFi and establishing a mesh network through the neighbors' TV sets until it can reach some remote command server?
Like my Comcast wifi which now routinely offers unsecured Xfinity wifi to all passers by in the neighborhood (by design); and as a bonus, occasionally drops my secure wifi so that my devices switch over to the public Xfinity network, silently?
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Huh? Comey - a Republican - is being criticized for Democrats for organizing an 11-days-before-the-election hit-and-run against her, and your argument is that he's biased toward her? And that's why he did this 11 days before the election, I take it?
And that the previous results of the investigation were a whitewash, in which he publicly tarred her.
Correction: the FBI is not reopening the case, they're assessing some emails that they found in a different investigation to see if they are relevant. If they are relevant to Clinton, and if they contain classified information, then it's possible in the future that they might reopen the case. But that's not what the FBI said - that's all speculation by politicians looking for a "hook" to keep attacking Clinton.
I have tons of emails I've been getting lately from Hillary. I shall rescue them from the spam filter and send them to Comey to reopen the case.
"False exculpatory statements" also can result when the defendants believe what they are saying. You are arguing that she clearly knew she was guilty as proved by her deliberately lying and that she was clearly lying deliberately as proved by her knowledge of her guilt. You and Mr. Gowdy live in a very circumscribed universe.
* Despite being a male panda, Ling Ling's name meant "darling little girl" in Chinese.
And they wonder why we have trouble breeding them in captivity.
So many adoptions from China are girls. This casts some doubt on all of them.
Ling Ling* was forced into the international sex trade. It killed him.
Won't someone please think of the pandas!!!
* Despite being a male panda, Ling Ling's name meant "darling little girl" in Chinese.
He was forced to wear that outfit for the "furries".
473 emails saying "Anthony stop sending me those goddamn pictures"
Everyone knows nitrates are cheaper than day rates.
Chlorophyll Park.
Why do you think they call us human beans?
Hey, any editor where you can program it to do everything you want in the command line and then include it in a batch file is a good tool.
this is not sarcastic, but what else can the mouse or TouchPad do that the trackpoint can't?
HP calls theirs a touchstyk. Not only are they more precise than Touchpads and mice they take up zero excess real estate and you don't take your hands off the keyboard to use them. Why do mice and TouchPads still exist?
His flaw is assuming that his assumptions are even close to being accurate. The problem with these kinds of thought processes, is that they are fraught with limited thinking. Do you know how hard it is to keep exponential growth going for any length of time? And he wants it going for ... thousands of years. He has no idea what it will take to make that exponential growth keep going indefinitely forever, nor the consequences of that growth on humanity.
There are way too many assumptions, way too many unproven constants. He isn't as smart as he thinks he is, and that is where the problems start for his "simulation theory". I actually understand that I couldn't begin to theorize what things might exist in 20 years, let alone 1000, 5000, or 10,000 years down the road.
but there's a tiny tiny chance that somewhere somebody is looking at a monitor saying "Whoo, look, that little critter got it right! Ha, what are the odds?"
If we lived in a computer simulation, surely we would have some remaining concept of a Scientist that created the Simulation, and us inside it. The Scientist, who can change the software parameters, and can do absolutely anything in our Universe, and knows everything too, but limits His own powers to observe what we do, and, even if He knows the end result, let us choose our destiny with free will (FreeWill_Parameter = True).
As no such idea exists anywhere, I guess it's safe to say that we aren't in a simulation.
we can't even get the people who put together operating systems to get the bugs worked out, i wouldn't expect the Programmer to have the powers of omniscience and omnipotence in His creation.
Completely missing the point. The actual argument for a simulation doesn't rest on anything remotely like that. The primary argument is that it looks like under the laws of physics, simulations should be possible. It also seems likely that an advanced species would be interested in making simulations of their ancestors and would likely make many such simulations. Thus, if one thinks that society is likely to survive to a very high tech level, one should expect if one is a remotely interesting time period that one is much more likely to be a simulation than the original. There are problems with this argument (and I don't buy it), but it is far more interesting than simply dismissing it as akin to belief in religion or gods. It is unfortunate that you and many others in this thread are simply ridiculing the argument rather than actually addressing it.
but how do you know the difference between reality and a sim? how does reality "exist" in any completely objectively provable way, distinct from what a sim would be like? "I think therefore I am" but that's really about as far as you can take it.
"Computer, end Program".
Hummm, still here, it was worth a tr
by the end, those holodeck stories were just going wild. whenever they needed some plot twist, the holodeck developed another property. kind of like the Jeffries tubes, but fancier.
And VM guests can't break out of the hypervisor... Oh wait, they can, if the hypervisor is buggy.
If the universe is a simulation, it is a pretty complex one. Bugs would be expected.
However, humanity has access to such a infinitesimal fraction of the universe, it would be unexpected to find bugs in simple parts like ours. The bugs would seem more likely in less tested parts of the code, like at extreme energies or very small distances.
I'm assuming this is very sly.
If I exist in this simulated reality, then I only exist because of the simulation. Shut down the simulation and I cease to exist.
This. Tech billionaires and a lot of slashdot users hear "You are living in a simulation" and they think "Neo in the matrix" rather than "Agent in the matrix" I think this is because they are dumb.
Well yeah, they are simulated that way.
You ever wonder if most people have any inner life? Even without us being a sim, what if there are only like a million (or a dozen, or a billion) actual human beings alive at any given time, and the rest of the population are just basically breeding stock going through the motions to provide support for the occasional genetic accident that produces a real human? Would explain history pretty well.
We live in the Kobayashi Maru scenario!!!
I exist because of the result of biological processes that seek to procreate
No. That is the reason that your constituent atoms have a particular form and function. But it is not the reason they exist in the first place.
Science tells us that the Universe began as an infinitely dense singularity 13.85 billion years ago. We have no idea why that happened, but the answer is not "Darwin", since that skips over the first 10 billion years, especially those first few planck times.
Well, sort of by definition, circular reasoning, and law of physics, we exist because that's a lower energy configuration than us not existing.
The problem isn't his text, which was perfectly understandable. The problem is your poor command of English.
i do not command English; we merely ask favors of one another. (PS I'm not the AC, I just saw a straight line I couldn't resist)
It's called Gnosticism, and it has been around since at least the Second Century.
Gnocchiism; the belief that the universe is a large soft dumpling created by a divine figure known as "the chef".
not to be confused with Agnesticism, the belief that the universe was created by a little kid in the Despicable Me movie.
> American law doesn't require that Trump outsource his work overseas
In many industries, that is in fact the effect of US law. US labor and tax laws are such that the total cost to employ workers in the US is roughly 2.3Ã-- their take-home pay. So employees taking home $10/hour cost roughly $23/hour once you pay various federal, state and local taxes, unemployment, workers comp, etc etc. So of you have a widget that requires $10 of material and one hour labor @ $10/hour, production cost is about $33. $10 materials, $10 to employee, $13 taxes and compliance). Since it costs $33 to make under US law, obviously you can't wholesale it for any less than $33 production cost.
100 miles south, your competitor producing a nearly identical product has production in Mexico, where the cost is $10 material, $10 to the worker, and $5 taxes and compliance. Total production cost $25. This competitor can wholesale at $30 and have a 20% margin.
The person buying wholesale can pay $30 for the product made in northern Mexico, or at least $33 for the US-made one (which still leaves the US manufacturer zero profit). Which do you think the retailer will choose to buy? The less expensive one, obviously. The company with much higher tax and compliance costs goes out of business.
In most countries, business taxes and similar costs are based on the motivation to have business in their country. In the US, we have a significant interert group influencing policy based primarily on emotions, including envy, with no understanding of, or concern for, the economics or the results of the policies they support. "Fuck those companies" is this groups attitude, and the companies respond with "okay, we're not wanted here; we'll go where we're wanted".
You can see the same effect between US states. Many billions of dollars of businesses have moved from California to Texas due to the tax and regulation in California. Unemployment has gotten bad in California, while there are plenty of jobs in Texas.
yeah, if you're selling Walmart crap and commodities, you can't afford to skip the lowest cost provider, i.e. (China or sometimes other Far East.)
On the other hand, if you're selling quality, the Best; all those other epithets Trump applies in is sales pitches, well, people in that biz do in fact manufacture their stuff in the US, or anywhere else they can get the best quality, and people pay the price that requires. Ferraris aren't built in Korea. And it's not that Trump's various sales failures have been priced to compete on value. He's just got a rich man's tongue and a poor man's wallet.
so they think. Anybody tried to read them lately?
that we expect to be present being hijacked for nefarious purposes. And even if I don't plug my TV set into my home network, what's to stop it from turning on its WiFi and establishing a mesh network through the neighbors' TV sets until it can reach some remote command server?
Like my Comcast wifi which now routinely offers unsecured Xfinity wifi to all passers by in the neighborhood (by design); and as a bonus, occasionally drops my secure wifi so that my devices switch over to the public Xfinity network, silently?