Considering that "Satan" is just a fallen Angel, and actually has a name which is "Lucifer" (which in turn is in modern times wrong translated as "light bearer" and not at what it actually means: "Light Bringer" or in Greek: Prometheus) everything Satan does is done in the name of God. Obviously.
Or as someone said, "only people who fear their own god need to invent something like a devil which they fear even more".
My light saber is named Lucy, (not really, but i think if i had one it would be).
Aren't there more important things that are not being exposed. How about speeches to Wall St. and Clinton Foundation donations. Also, what about the running of the private email server. Let's get a priority here as to stuff that gets classified over political whims and stuff that they sweep under the rug with disinformation.
I'm a political moderate seeing both sides delivering more bull to the press to avoid discussing real hard issues and choices.
"speeches to Wall St. and Clinton Foundation donations" aren't a problem without some sort of quid for that quo. And the private email server? Really? After the State Dept official server is shown to have been hacked, and the FBI server is shown to have been hacked, but there is no evidence that Clinton's server was ever hacked, you'd think she'd get a pat on the back. but you're right, "both sides delivering more bull to the press to avoid discussing real hard issues and choices". It's always been that way. Most voters don't have the resources to cogitate on hard issues and choices.
We will learn how they plan to save their dying planet by giving us anal probes. With this information, we will be able to harness our colonic resources to end AGW.
UFOs exist and there are plenty of them - depending on your ability to identify flying objects. Is it flying? Yes? Can you identify it? No? Then it's the UFO. I served at several military airports and I've seen plenty.
br>The declassification time for military aircraft is typically 10-20 years. There will obviously be a whole lot of UFOs flying around...
We can't handle the truth. Our society is getting DUMBER, not smarter. We can't handle the thought of beings from beyond arriving. There would be cults worshipping them, cults demonizing them (this ALREADY happens in certain major religions, claiming UFO's are the work of Satan.) And suicides and suicide cults and people wanting to marry them within an hour of meeting them.
ufos the work of satan, how dumb. obviously they are the work of God. Ezekiel saw a wheel a rolling and all that.
I think there are three basic options and a fourth most likely one.
1 We are the first technologically intelligent species.
2 We are the last technologically intelligent species.
3 The universe is so dam big that the probability for any technologically intelligent lifeforms to ever come into contact is near zero.
4 It is a cover story for military aviation R&D.
I personally go with the last option.
Another option; what we consider normal, even inevitable exploration is in fact specific to our terrestrial evolutionary pathway, and any "intelligentish" creations that might appear from another lineage do things differently; either they're not interested in visiting, or we don't recognize their visitations.
and the possibly related hypothesis that any species that follows a parallel path to ours regarding physically traveling from point to point ends up almost literally dropping the ball when they get to the point of handling the energies that might allow them to accomplish such things, and blow themselves to smithereens one way or another.
It wasn't long ago that "the numbers" were indicating Trump wouldn't do well at all during the primaries. And what happened? He exceeded all initial expectations and polls to become the leader!
Trump has almost never exceeded his polls. In fact, he usually under performs them. What the analysts got wrong was that Trump supporters didn't peel away to other, more mainstream candidates. While his supporters are incredibly loyal he hasn't really managed to pick up any more, even as other candidates have dropped out. He's stuck at ~35%, it's both his floor and his ceiling.
Underperform the polls? Hey, he underpaid the illegal alien Poles when he hired them for demolition in 1979!
And you demonstrate your ignorance every time you post, yet like the idiot you are, you just keep at it.
I love trolling the trolls on Slashdot.
it's not as if other republicans haven't noticed something odd...
"Republicans have to stop buying into things that demonize the president. I mean, why aren't Republican leaders shouting out about all this birther nonsense and all these other things? They should speak out. This is the kind of intolerance that I've been talking about where these idiot presentations continue to be made and you don't see the senior leadership of the party say, 'No, that's wrong.' In fact, sometimes by not speaking out, they're encouraging it. And the base keeps buying the stuff.
"And it's killing the base of the party. I mean, 26 percent favorability rating for the party right now. It ought to be telling them something. So, instead of attacking me or whoever speaks like I do, look in the mirror and realize, 'How are we going to win the next election?" -Colin Powell, 2013 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po...
"The GOP “still looks down on minorities,” Powell said. He slammed Sarah Palin‘s “shuck and jive” comments from last year about President Obama and criticized Republican’s use of the word “lazy” to describe the president.
“Why do senior Republican leaders tolerate this kind of discussion within the party?” he asked." -Colin Powell, 2015 http://www.mediaite.com/tv/col...
"Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists," Col. Lawrence Wilkerson said Friday on MSNBC's "The Ed Show."
"And the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander in chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin. And that’s despicable." https://www.washingtonpost.com...
"The Republican Party and the conservatives have shown very little interest in black Americans and have actually done things to leave the impression among blacks that they are antagonistic to their interests. Even as someone who's labeled a conservative --I'm a Republican I'm black, I'm heading up this organization in the Reagan administration--I can say that conservatives don't exactly break their necks to tell blacks that they're welcome." -Clarence Thomas 1987 http://reason.com/archives/198...
"The party must follow Governor Bush's lead and reach out to minority communities and particularly the African-American community -- and not just during an election-year campaign," General Powell said pointedly. "It must be a sustained effort. It must be every day. It must be for real."
He did not spare the party for its record on affirmative action. There was "cynicism in the black community," he said, because "some in our party miss no opportunity to roundly and loudly condemn affirmative action that helped a few thousands black kids get an education."
But, he added, "hardly a whimper is heard from them over affirmative action for lobbyists who load our federal tax codes with preferences for special interests." -Colin Powell 2000
I don't expect much from the submitters and editors here, but it's kind of pathetic to see jabs like the "And on the other side of the isle, everyone surely already knows how likely Republican nominee Donald Trump feels about illegal aliens." one in the summary.
Of course, "isle" should be "aisle", but that's not the editorial problem I'm referring to here.
It's the unnecessary attack on Trump that just isn't needed or valuable here.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Trump's position on illegal aliens. Upholding America's immigration and citizenship laws is something that a great many Americans feel is extremely important.
Even if left-leaning folks, like the submitter and perhaps the editors here, don't like Trump, they're going to have to accept that Trump is very likely going to be the next President of the United States of America.
A majority of Americans do support him now, and will support him during the election, even if they can't publicly admit it at this time.
In fact, by resorting to such pathetic jabs on such a constant basis, those on the left are actually driving more and more people to support Trump for President. These normal Americans are getting tired of leftists shitting all over American values and American laws. These normal Americans are getting tired of the disrespect that the left so often directs at them. These normal Americans are going to elect President Trump.
Nothing wrong with Trump's position on illegal aliens? Would that include his position that the number of illegal immigrants in the United States is "30 million, it could be 34 million." (July 24th, 2015, MSNBC Morning Joe)? Or his position that he "denies that he was aware of the working conditions at the site in 1980 or that any of the demolition workers were undocumented immigrants...said he had resisted efforts to settle the case out of court. ''It would be cheaper, but on principle I won't,'' he said. ''We did nothing wrong.''" http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06... which he settled in 1999 http://www.nydailynews.com/arc...? Or the position that it would be possible to have 11 million people deported?
Frankly, I'd put more credence to the position that 70 years ago a bunch of joyriding Martian teens slammed their interplanetary scout craft into Roswell. That has at least a slight possibility of possibility.
I wish their kind wasn't so against space travel so they'd get the hell off of this planet.
When it's privately run, we're in favor of space travel. The problem with public programs is not so much the money in comparison to other spending, but that the fear-driven lefty Luddites can prevent NASA from doing anything really adventurous. Thus we get an endless series of science fair experiments in LEO.
Is this a good time to point out how much publicly funded research Musk et al are building on with their really adventurous plans for a launch vehicle?
Considering he's a New York City liberal, I think you're wrong.
Correct, and it's bizarre how nearly half of the Republicans in their primaries have voted for them. They just don't know enough to know the truth.
The Southern Strategy wasn't exactly about instructing the masses in the intricacies of strict constructionism and the Laffer Curve. The Republicans should change their symbol from the elephant to the pander bear.
99% of the stuff that needs to be printed does not need color.
Are you kidding? Have you ever seen a Powerpoint presentation printed in B&W? It's horrible. All of those important colored bars, dots and lines just blend into a sea of low contrast grey. It's bad enough when the data is just financial reports from a Fortune 500 company, but this is the highest level of the US government.
Just think if somebody printed out a map of the Middle East in B&W. It would be hard to differentiate borders - you might end up starting WWIII because you blew up the wrong country.
No, color in this case is cheap. The world has too many shades of grey as it is.
except that every printed thing ends up being copied on a b&w copier and disseminated sooner or later by somebody or other.
the wise author chooses fills, brightness etc. for charts so that items are still distinguishable when copied grayscale, even if less immediately so.
This trick only works in the US, though, which apparently has a contract law that is biased very strongly in favour of corporations. In other parts of the world, frivolous clauses like this will cause the contract as a whole to become void.
Note that most countries outside US have loser pays winner's legal fees, US has pay your own, which gives advantage to big guy with legal staff over small guy with nothing more than solid case on his side.
Some things which have been game changers have been dismissed as toys. Just because your shit was dismissed as being a toy doesn't make it a game changer either.
All that shit Microsoft said was a game changer but nobody gave a damn about? Not game changers.
The only thing which differentiates the two is reality of what has actually happened. But the history of people saying "this will revolutionize the world", or "in 5 years we'll all be doing X" -- well, the pundits seem to have a far worse track record of telling us what will happen than what won't.
How many of us have spent decades seeing the stuff the pundits and futurists said would change our lives, only to have them fizzle out into nothing?
If we stamped 100% of all ideas as "toy" or "garbage", I bet we'd be right 80% of the time. People suck at predicting the future.
The IBM AT was billed as a game changer. "A computer so advanced it will run programs that haven't been written yet".
Was a toy, still is a toy, and always will be a toy.
The geek has had about twenty years now to topple Windows as a desktop OS --- with damn little to show for it.
Windows in all its incarnations a modern, very capable, OS and it is past time the geek stopped pretending otherwise,
It seems to be a law that given the choice between different technologies, the US market will always standardize on the worst. NTSC video, VHS videotapes; 44khz CDs, 19 khz subcarrier stereo FM, MP3s, JPGs, IBM architecture PCs, Windows, MS-DOS,
This article is just a list of game-changing technologies coupled to unsourced assertions that these were derided as toys when they were first introduced.
I don't recall a widespread opinion that color monitors, sound cards, digital cameras, wireless networking or AI were "toys" when first introduced. If anything, I recall and endless stream of over-hyped articles about how they heralded the second coming of Christ.
ibm pc color monitor was 40 char wide, ridiculous blocky graphics. there was no sound. both were not for business purposes. for that matter, when windows started being preinstalled on PCs, my employer at the time decreed that we would stick with the Word and Lotus for DOS we had always been using; and anyone caught "playing around with Windows" would be considered to be wasting company time, as if they were caught doing personal email or phone calls or something.
Was a toy, still is a toy, and always will be a toy.
The geek has had about twenty years now to topple Windows as a desktop OS --- with damn little to show for it.
Windows in all its incarnations a modern, very capable, OS and it is past time the geek stopped pretending otherwise,
It seems to be a law that given the choice between different technologies, the US market will always standardize on the worst. NTSC video, VHS videotapes; 44khz CDs, 19 khz subcarrier stereo FM, MP3s, JPGs, IBM architecture PCs, Windows, MS-DOS,
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Considering that "Satan" is just a fallen Angel, and actually has a name which is "Lucifer" (which in turn is in modern times wrong translated as "light bearer" and not at what it actually means: "Light Bringer" or in Greek: Prometheus) everything Satan does is done in the name of God. Obviously.
Or as someone said, "only people who fear their own god need to invent something like a devil which they fear even more".
My light saber is named Lucy, (not really, but i think if i had one it would be).
Aren't there more important things that are not being exposed. How about speeches to Wall St. and Clinton Foundation donations. Also, what about the running of the private email server. Let's get a priority here as to stuff that gets classified over political whims and stuff that they sweep under the rug with disinformation.
I'm a political moderate seeing both sides delivering more bull to the press to avoid discussing real hard issues and choices.
"speeches to Wall St. and Clinton Foundation donations" aren't a problem without some sort of quid for that quo. And the private email server? Really? After the State Dept official server is shown to have been hacked, and the FBI server is shown to have been hacked, but there is no evidence that Clinton's server was ever hacked, you'd think she'd get a pat on the back.
but you're right, "both sides delivering more bull to the press to avoid discussing real hard issues and choices". It's always been that way. Most voters don't have the resources to cogitate on hard issues and choices.
It's a disturbingly plausible idea that Trump's hair is actually an alien brain parasite.
obviously it has tapped out its host's brain resources and this whole presidential campaign is some sort of plot to find a new host.
Donald Trump would want built if he believed extra terrestrials were real?
Just ask yourself:
Does Trump's hair resemble anything from this planet?
He seems to be some sort of giant sentient candy corn stuck into the neck of a humanoid body,
We will learn how they plan to save their dying planet by giving us anal probes. With this information, we will be able to harness our colonic resources to end AGW.
UFOs exist and there are plenty of them - depending on your ability to identify flying objects. Is it flying? Yes? Can you identify it? No? Then it's the UFO. I served at several military airports and I've seen plenty. br>The declassification time for military aircraft is typically 10-20 years. There will obviously be a whole lot of UFOs flying around...
hell, to most people most bird species are UFOs.
We can't handle the truth. Our society is getting DUMBER, not smarter. We can't handle the thought of beings from beyond arriving. There would be cults worshipping them, cults demonizing them (this ALREADY happens in certain major religions, claiming UFO's are the work of Satan.) And suicides and suicide cults and people wanting to marry them within an hour of meeting them.
ufos the work of satan, how dumb. obviously they are the work of God. Ezekiel saw a wheel a rolling and all that.
I think there are three basic options and a fourth most likely one.
I personally go with the last option.
Another option; what we consider normal, even inevitable exploration is in fact specific to our terrestrial evolutionary pathway, and any "intelligentish" creations that might appear from another lineage do things differently; either they're not interested in visiting, or we don't recognize their visitations.
and the possibly related hypothesis that any species that follows a parallel path to ours regarding physically traveling from point to point ends up almost literally dropping the ball when they get to the point of handling the energies that might allow them to accomplish such things, and blow themselves to smithereens one way or another.
It wasn't long ago that "the numbers" were indicating Trump wouldn't do well at all during the primaries. And what happened? He exceeded all initial expectations and polls to become the leader!
Trump has almost never exceeded his polls. In fact, he usually under performs them. What the analysts got wrong was that Trump supporters didn't peel away to other, more mainstream candidates. While his supporters are incredibly loyal he hasn't really managed to pick up any more, even as other candidates have dropped out. He's stuck at ~35%, it's both his floor and his ceiling.
Underperform the polls? Hey, he underpaid the illegal alien Poles when he hired them for demolition in 1979!
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
This is what the Republican Party had to say about the 2012 election. Read it. Educate yourself.
http://goproject.gop.com/rnc_growth_opportunity_book_2013.pdf
And you demonstrate your ignorance every time you post, yet like the idiot you are, you just keep at it.
I love trolling the trolls on Slashdot.
it's not as if other republicans haven't noticed something odd...
"Republicans have to stop buying into things that demonize the president. I mean, why aren't Republican leaders shouting out about all this birther nonsense and all these other things? They should speak out. This is the kind of intolerance that I've been talking about where these idiot presentations continue to be made and you don't see the senior leadership of the party say, 'No, that's wrong.' In fact, sometimes by not speaking out, they're encouraging it. And the base keeps buying the stuff. "And it's killing the base of the party. I mean, 26 percent favorability rating for the party right now. It ought to be telling them something. So, instead of attacking me or whoever speaks like I do, look in the mirror and realize, 'How are we going to win the next election?" -Colin Powell, 2013 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po...
"The GOP “still looks down on minorities,” Powell said. He slammed Sarah Palin‘s “shuck and jive” comments from last year about President Obama and criticized Republican’s use of the word “lazy” to describe the president. “Why do senior Republican leaders tolerate this kind of discussion within the party?” he asked." -Colin Powell, 2015 http://www.mediaite.com/tv/col...
"Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists," Col. Lawrence Wilkerson said Friday on MSNBC's "The Ed Show." "And the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander in chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin. And that’s despicable." https://www.washingtonpost.com...
"The Republican Party and the conservatives have shown very little interest in black Americans and have actually done things to leave the impression among blacks that they are antagonistic to their interests. Even as someone who's labeled a conservative --I'm a Republican I'm black, I'm heading up this organization in the Reagan administration--I can say that conservatives don't exactly break their necks to tell blacks that they're welcome." -Clarence Thomas 1987 http://reason.com/archives/198...
"The party must follow Governor Bush's lead and reach out to minority communities and particularly the African-American community -- and not just during an election-year campaign," General Powell said pointedly. "It must be a sustained effort. It must be every day. It must be for real." He did not spare the party for its record on affirmative action. There was "cynicism in the black community," he said, because "some in our party miss no opportunity to roundly and loudly condemn affirmative action that helped a few thousands black kids get an education." But, he added, "hardly a whimper is heard from them over affirmative action for lobbyists who load our federal tax codes with preferences for special interests." -Colin Powell 2000
I don't expect much from the submitters and editors here, but it's kind of pathetic to see jabs like the "And on the other side of the isle, everyone surely already knows how likely Republican nominee Donald Trump feels about illegal aliens." one in the summary.
Of course, "isle" should be "aisle", but that's not the editorial problem I'm referring to here.
It's the unnecessary attack on Trump that just isn't needed or valuable here.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Trump's position on illegal aliens. Upholding America's immigration and citizenship laws is something that a great many Americans feel is extremely important.
Even if left-leaning folks, like the submitter and perhaps the editors here, don't like Trump, they're going to have to accept that Trump is very likely going to be the next President of the United States of America.
A majority of Americans do support him now, and will support him during the election, even if they can't publicly admit it at this time.
In fact, by resorting to such pathetic jabs on such a constant basis, those on the left are actually driving more and more people to support Trump for President. These normal Americans are getting tired of leftists shitting all over American values and American laws. These normal Americans are getting tired of the disrespect that the left so often directs at them. These normal Americans are going to elect President Trump.
Nothing wrong with Trump's position on illegal aliens? Would that include his position that the number of illegal immigrants in the United States is "30 million, it could be 34 million." (July 24th, 2015, MSNBC Morning Joe)? Or his position that he "denies that he was aware of the working conditions at the site in 1980 or that any of the demolition workers were undocumented immigrants ...said he had resisted efforts to settle the case out of court. ''It would be cheaper, but on principle I won't,'' he said. ''We did nothing wrong.''" http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06... which he settled in 1999 http://www.nydailynews.com/arc...? Or the position that it would be possible to have 11 million people deported?
Frankly, I'd put more credence to the position that 70 years ago a bunch of joyriding Martian teens slammed their interplanetary scout craft into Roswell. That has at least a slight possibility of possibility.
I wish their kind wasn't so against space travel so they'd get the hell off of this planet.
When it's privately run, we're in favor of space travel. The problem with public programs is not so much the money in comparison to other spending, but that the fear-driven lefty Luddites can prevent NASA from doing anything really adventurous. Thus we get an endless series of science fair experiments in LEO.
Is this a good time to point out how much publicly funded research Musk et al are building on with their really adventurous plans for a launch vehicle?
Republicans are deluded.
Liberal lies! They were never luded in the first place, how could they be deluded?
Considering he's a New York City liberal, I think you're wrong.
Correct, and it's bizarre how nearly half of the Republicans in their primaries have voted for them. They just don't know enough to know the truth.
The Southern Strategy wasn't exactly about instructing the masses in the intricacies of strict constructionism and the Laffer Curve. The Republicans should change their symbol from the elephant to the pander bear.
mod up! mod up! mod up!
99% of the stuff that needs to be printed does not need color.
Are you kidding? Have you ever seen a Powerpoint presentation printed in B&W? It's horrible. All of those important colored bars, dots and lines just blend into a sea of low contrast grey. It's bad enough when the data is just financial reports from a Fortune 500 company, but this is the highest level of the US government.
Just think if somebody printed out a map of the Middle East in B&W. It would be hard to differentiate borders - you might end up starting WWIII because you blew up the wrong country.
No, color in this case is cheap. The world has too many shades of grey as it is.
except that every printed thing ends up being copied on a b&w copier and disseminated sooner or later by somebody or other.
the wise author chooses fills, brightness etc. for charts so that items are still distinguishable when copied grayscale, even if less immediately so.
if we had a white president we wouldn't need to waste our tax dollars on color printers,
This trick only works in the US, though, which apparently has a contract law that is biased very strongly in favour of corporations. In other parts of the world, frivolous clauses like this will cause the contract as a whole to become void.
Note that most countries outside US have loser pays winner's legal fees, US has pay your own, which gives advantage to big guy with legal staff over small guy with nothing more than solid case on his side.
"Flying cars"
"aerodynamics"
Some things which have been game changers have been dismissed as toys. Just because your shit was dismissed as being a toy doesn't make it a game changer either.
All that shit Microsoft said was a game changer but nobody gave a damn about? Not game changers.
The only thing which differentiates the two is reality of what has actually happened. But the history of people saying "this will revolutionize the world", or "in 5 years we'll all be doing X" -- well, the pundits seem to have a far worse track record of telling us what will happen than what won't.
How many of us have spent decades seeing the stuff the pundits and futurists said would change our lives, only to have them fizzle out into nothing?
If we stamped 100% of all ideas as "toy" or "garbage", I bet we'd be right 80% of the time. People suck at predicting the future.
The IBM AT was billed as a game changer. "A computer so advanced it will run programs that haven't been written yet".
Hmmm ... I'm not that old, but I'm pretty fucking sure both sound and color pre-dated the use of computer screens. ;-)
i remember back in the 30s before they invented color, the world was all black and white. you can see it in the movies they made back then.
Was a toy, still is a toy, and always will be a toy.
The geek has had about twenty years now to topple Windows as a desktop OS --- with damn little to show for it.
Windows in all its incarnations a modern, very capable, OS and it is past time the geek stopped pretending otherwise,
It seems to be a law that given the choice between different technologies, the US market will always standardize on the worst. NTSC video, VHS videotapes; 44khz CDs, 19 khz subcarrier stereo FM, MP3s, JPGs, IBM architecture PCs, Windows, MS-DOS,
oh, and ethernet vs token ring.
This article is just a list of game-changing technologies coupled to unsourced assertions that these were derided as toys when they were first introduced.
I don't recall a widespread opinion that color monitors, sound cards, digital cameras, wireless networking or AI were "toys" when first introduced. If anything, I recall and endless stream of over-hyped articles about how they heralded the second coming of Christ.
ibm pc color monitor was 40 char wide, ridiculous blocky graphics. there was no sound. both were not for business purposes.
for that matter, when windows started being preinstalled on PCs, my employer at the time decreed that we would stick with the Word and Lotus for DOS we had always been using; and anyone caught "playing around with Windows" would be considered to be wasting company time, as if they were caught doing personal email or phone calls or something.
Precisely. Do they list all the things touted as "game-changing" that turned out to be toys?
segways
Was a toy, still is a toy, and always will be a toy.
The geek has had about twenty years now to topple Windows as a desktop OS --- with damn little to show for it.
Windows in all its incarnations a modern, very capable, OS and it is past time the geek stopped pretending otherwise,
It seems to be a law that given the choice between different technologies, the US market will always standardize on the worst. NTSC video, VHS videotapes; 44khz CDs, 19 khz subcarrier stereo FM, MP3s, JPGs, IBM architecture PCs, Windows, MS-DOS,