In retrospect, I will concede to the first point, that it is Unix certified. I was speaking primarily of Linux-designed software, so I was mistaken there. My other points, however, still stand.
OS X running on Intel is 100% UNIX 03 certified, not Unix-ish.
Compatibility is still iffy. I dare you to try to compile X11 or mod_python from source. Doing either is a hard trek, if you can do it at all.
Regarding your sugar-gas analogy, the Mac can run on gas, sugar gas, or just sugar, whichever you prefer.
You misunderstand the point of the analogy: the car doesn't run on sugar; it runs on gas, and the sugar is an artificial limitation intentionally imposed by the manufacturer, just like Apple and their god-damned EFI chips.
That's why it's flexible. Get sick of OS X? Run Linux or Windows without a problem.
Why would I pay a premium for intentionallylimited hardware only to end up running an OS I could use on any other machine in the world?
I also feel I should point out, I am not a PC fan-boy. I use a dual-boot XP/Ubuntu PC at home and an iMac at work (which i'm using at the moment). My biggest problem with Apple is that they go out of their way to limit the capability of their products, to the detriment of the consumer (such as EFI). They've done the same intentional vendor lock-in for iPods and now for iPhones.
1. It is Unix so if are doing Unix server work this is a piece of cake.
It's Unix-ish. Try compiling X11 (or any of hundreds of other POSIX compliant software packages) from source on a Mac. I'll wait.
2. It will run Windows, Linux, BSD, and Mac OS/x so if you are going multi-platform on the PC it is the way to go.
It's capable of running its own proprietary OS that is specifically designed to not run on any otherwise capable hardware...That would be like Halliburton putting sugar in all its petroleum products and designing a car that runs on sugar-gas, calling it a "feature".
3. It will run the Google Phone development stack and the Iphone/IPod stack.
It is just more flexible. Makes me want to get one now.
Perhaps the reason for no lines may be that the suppliers were ready ahead of time for the consumer demand; something Apple deliberately does not do, in order to make their customers think "I have to get one NOW, before everyone else does!".
This also says something about the target audience for each product. A good portion of the Apple crowd needs to have the latest gadget or they won't be cool, whereas the people most interested in Android are more focused on the potential utility of the product.
The previous Republican majority was not conservative.
If by "previous" you mean "previous several, and current, and probably the next several". And to avoid coming off as simple flamebait, I know that just because all republican politicians are for expanding government control, that doesn't mean all republican voters are. Just like all democratic politicians are pussies, but not all democratic voters are.
Though really, if you're identifying yourself as either, you're voluntarily lumping yourself in with one crowd or the other, so don't get angry when assumptions are made. It's your own damned fault in that case.
I know this could sound weird to some, but every time he closes his eyes I just hope that he drifts away to a better place and stays there.
My grandfather suffered the same way, and I know exactly what you mean. It gets to a point where you think they (and you) would be better off once its over, as selfish as that may sound.
Keep in mind, you don't just pull an open source project out of your ass, you first must find a need, before you can fill it. This is not always so obvious or easy a thing for someone to do.
Not to mention, some people legitimately don't have the spare time. I myself was lucky that I worked on several open source projects here and there/before/ I started developing full-time, because now that I spend all day doing it, the last thing I want to do is spend all night doing it just to pad my resume. I still maintain my existing projects, but I don't go looking for more work.
If all I did was code 24 hours a day, I'd probably snap and murder my wife...
Or you could build your own souped up machine from scratch for the same as or less than a Mac mini, install OSX86 on it (with some minor finagling), and you're good to go. Of course, it's not suitable for the casual user, but for anyone who's had the occasion to install your typical linux distro, it's cake.
I have to say I like this one. It doesnt have the pronunciation problem that "Grassroutes" does, and non-technical people will actually get the meaning for it.
"Do you have comcast or what?" "Oh, we use OurNet."
There's only one way to deal with nutjobs that are so far removed from reality...Respond with an equally removed from reality response. And how pray tell do we, the tech community, do such a thing? By using technology to our advantage. I'm sure someone else remembers Scott Pakin's famous complaint letter generator:
http://www.pakin.org/complaint
And a quick search over the PTC's site reveals the email for "Letters to the Editor":
editor@parentstv.org
Now go forth, my tech brethren, and fight crazy with crazy!
Good point, but the example used in the post I was replying to (for linux) wouldn't work either. Sudo still asks for a password in default configurations.
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In retrospect, I will concede to the first point, that it is Unix certified. I was speaking primarily of Linux-designed software, so I was mistaken there. My other points, however, still stand.
OS X running on Intel is 100% UNIX 03 certified, not Unix-ish.
Compatibility is still iffy. I dare you to try to compile X11 or mod_python from source. Doing either is a hard trek, if you can do it at all.
Regarding your sugar-gas analogy, the Mac can run on gas, sugar gas, or just sugar, whichever you prefer.
You misunderstand the point of the analogy: the car doesn't run on sugar; it runs on gas, and the sugar is an artificial limitation intentionally imposed by the manufacturer, just like Apple and their god-damned EFI chips.
That's why it's flexible. Get sick of OS X? Run Linux or Windows without a problem.
Why would I pay a premium for intentionallylimited hardware only to end up running an OS I could use on any other machine in the world?
I also feel I should point out, I am not a PC fan-boy. I use a dual-boot XP/Ubuntu PC at home and an iMac at work (which i'm using at the moment). My biggest problem with Apple is that they go out of their way to limit the capability of their products, to the detriment of the consumer (such as EFI). They've done the same intentional vendor lock-in for iPods and now for iPhones.
More people are realizing that you don't need windows to read windows files. Just format your junk to FAT instead of NTFS.
Good points, but you better hope to hell that you don't have any windows files bigger than 2gb.
1. It is Unix so if are doing Unix server work this is a piece of cake.
It's Unix-ish. Try compiling X11 (or any of hundreds of other POSIX compliant software packages) from source on a Mac. I'll wait.
2. It will run Windows, Linux, BSD, and Mac OS/x so if you are going multi-platform on the PC it is the way to go.
It's capable of running its own proprietary OS that is specifically designed to not run on any otherwise capable hardware...That would be like Halliburton putting sugar in all its petroleum products and designing a car that runs on sugar-gas, calling it a "feature".
3. It will run the Google Phone development stack and the Iphone/IPod stack.
It is just more flexible. Makes me want to get one now.
See above.
Perhaps the reason for no lines may be that the suppliers were ready ahead of time for the consumer demand; something Apple deliberately does not do, in order to make their customers think "I have to get one NOW, before everyone else does!".
This also says something about the target audience for each product. A good portion of the Apple crowd needs to have the latest gadget or they won't be cool, whereas the people most interested in Android are more focused on the potential utility of the product.
But it is to conduct government business in said private account, moron.
Nonetheless, it's a somewhat plausible theory that warrants investigation before being disregarded completely.
The previous Republican majority was not conservative.
If by "previous" you mean "previous several, and current, and probably the next several". And to avoid coming off as simple flamebait, I know that just because all republican politicians are for expanding government control, that doesn't mean all republican voters are. Just like all democratic politicians are pussies, but not all democratic voters are.
Though really, if you're identifying yourself as either, you're voluntarily lumping yourself in with one crowd or the other, so don't get angry when assumptions are made. It's your own damned fault in that case.
If the article is accurate, they are, over the press' continued coverage of the Republicans.
True, but given the reputation of the site hosting TFA, I'm as skeptical as I would be of something from MoveOn.org
No disagreement, but you can say "fucking" here.
Heh, I apparently spend too much time in forums/sites with rules about obscenities.
The "liberals" are not the ones literally throwing a tantrum here. Both parties need to f***ing grow up.
I know this could sound weird to some, but every time he closes his eyes I just hope that he drifts away to a better place and stays there.
My grandfather suffered the same way, and I know exactly what you mean. It gets to a point where you think they (and you) would be better off once its over, as selfish as that may sound.
Keep in mind, you don't just pull an open source project out of your ass, you first must find a need, before you can fill it. This is not always so obvious or easy a thing for someone to do.
/before/ I started developing full-time, because now that I spend all day doing it, the last thing I want to do is spend all night doing it just to pad my resume. I still maintain my existing projects, but I don't go looking for more work.
Not to mention, some people legitimately don't have the spare time. I myself was lucky that I worked on several open source projects here and there
If all I did was code 24 hours a day, I'd probably snap and murder my wife...
Yes, that would be him. I don't really blame him, though. He's an actor who knows nothing about the specs of the machines he endorses.
Frankly, I'd probably do it too, if Apple also offered me obscene amounts of money to do so.
Flamewar in 3...2...1...
Or you could build your own souped up machine from scratch for the same as or less than a Mac mini, install OSX86 on it (with some minor finagling), and you're good to go. Of course, it's not suitable for the casual user, but for anyone who's had the occasion to install your typical linux distro, it's cake.
I have to say I like this one. It doesnt have the pronunciation problem that "Grassroutes" does, and non-technical people will actually get the meaning for it.
"Do you have comcast or what?"
"Oh, we use OurNet."
Let them hear it where it matters...email them in person: poshaughnessy(at)creativelabs.com.
There's only one way to deal with nutjobs that are so far removed from reality...Respond with an equally removed from reality response. And how pray tell do we, the tech community, do such a thing? By using technology to our advantage. I'm sure someone else remembers Scott Pakin's famous complaint letter generator:
http://www.pakin.org/complaint
And a quick search over the PTC's site reveals the email for "Letters to the Editor":
editor@parentstv.org
Now go forth, my tech brethren, and fight crazy with crazy!
Good point, but the example used in the post I was replying to (for linux) wouldn't work either. Sudo still asks for a password in default configurations.