If it were something like "Disasteroid", I doubt that the world would come together to save the planet like they did there. What is more likely to happen is that the Big Powers That Be(TM) will just go ahead and launch their own independent planet-saving operations. And then something really bad would eventually happen. Like each of the pieces of the shattered asteroid would impact the Earth and shatter the planet anyway.
I'm surprised that everybody seems to forget the fact that Netbooks are still computers, just computers that are purposely emphasizing price over power. They can still be used to do quite a bit of the stuff that regular laptops can do. The main limitation is screen size. It is rather difficult to do anything artistic with a reasonable amount of detail on such a small screen.
This is silly. Nobody even distributes Linux binaries. They distribute Linux packages. Hell, even on Windows, the number of distributed.exe's has gone down. Most things get packaged into MSI. This is fine.
Maybe what he wants is an easier way for developers to package their stuff for many distros.
Actually, most commercial Linux applications come in two flavors: packaged and tarball.
There is a whole section of Linux distros that do not use any formal binary package management, so a non-packaged version is always made available.
FatELF would be immensely useful for that.
It's still an idea. Anyway, it still doesn't preclude that aliens could have technology that manipulates time or space even if we don't. And additionally, its only talking about our galaxy, not the whole universe.
A theory is something that has been mathematically proven. But any theory done relies on assumptions that we make, so it is still possible to be wrong.
But that assumes that we have the correct information for the "big bang" theory. The universe could have started far earlier, and we wouldn't really know. It's only a theory, not fact.
This is also assuming that alien science matches our own. Aliens could be far further ahead or far behind us in terms of technology and advancements in space travel.
Actually, that might be unenforceable... I think there was a court case a few years ago that decided that "shrinkwrap" licenses like that were technically invalid, since the user never explicitly agreed to it. And to remove the ability to refund if you don't want to agree to it would make people really angry.
Well put! I wondered when somebody would pull something like this out
of their hat.
My Linux box runs:
Fedora 11
OpenOffice
Blender
VMware Workstation ($190)
GIMP
Apache/PHP/MySQL/PgSQL
Mono & MonoDevelop
GNU compiler collection toolkit
Qt & GTK+
Firefox 3.5
Opera
VLC
CrossOver Linux Professional ($80)
With all those applications, adding in the $1000 cost of my computer
hardware, I only had to buy a license for VMware ($190) and since I
play games to, I opted for CrossOver Linux Professional too ($80). Only
$1210.
Now, lets compare that with comparable systems in Windows:
Windows Server 2008 w/ 5 CALs ($840)
Microsoft Office 2007 Ultimate ($680)
3ds MAX ($3500)
VMware Workstation ($190)
Adobe Photoshop ($700)
IIS/ASP.net/PHP/MySQL/PgSQL (Included with OS cost)
Visual Studio 2008 Professional ($800)
Qt
Internet Explorer 8 & Firefox 3.5
Opera
Windows Media Player & VLC
Now, with that system, adding in $1000 hardware cost, would total to be
about $7710. Now, you could cut some of these costs by replacing them
with cross-platform open source versions, like 3ds MAX with Blender and
Photoshop with GIMP, which would be $2510. Cutting out Office 2007 and
replacing it with OpenOffice would bring it down to $1830.
In the end, the initial cost of ownership is quite a bit higher for a
Windows based system over a Linux one. But, that is to be expected,
given that Windows isn't free. And on a Windows based system, its much
more likely they will buy the software suggested on the list that would
bring it to about $7710, rather than compromise and cut it down. If you
needed Microsoft's SQL Server 2008 Standard, that would set you back at
least another $2000 or at most $6000.
Additionally, if you wanted to bring the initial software cost to zero
on a Linux box, you could use Sun's xVM VirtualBox instead of VMware
Workstation. I picked VMware because it was the best. Also, some of the
Windows software, like Photoshop, might be usable under Linux when
combined with either CrossOver or Wine in addition to video games.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this what PolicyKit is all about?
I think it is... I believe Red Hat and Fedora have the ability to use PolicyKit/ConsoleKit to lock down GNOME and console. I'm not so sure about KDE, though.
That is great to know... Because I was worried that id Software would start abandoning its Linux versions.... And that would make me a very sad camper:'(
I don't buy games very often, but when I do, usually I buy PC games that are cross-platform, or games for my console (currently Nintendo Wii)
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If it were something like "Disasteroid", I doubt that the world would come together to save the planet like they did there. What is more likely to happen is that the Big Powers That Be(TM) will just go ahead and launch their own independent planet-saving operations. And then something really bad would eventually happen. Like each of the pieces of the shattered asteroid would impact the Earth and shatter the planet anyway.
I'm surprised that everybody seems to forget the fact that Netbooks are still computers, just computers that are purposely emphasizing price over power. They can still be used to do quite a bit of the stuff that regular laptops can do. The main limitation is screen size. It is rather difficult to do anything artistic with a reasonable amount of detail on such a small screen.
This is silly. Nobody even distributes Linux binaries. They distribute Linux packages. Hell, even on Windows, the number of distributed .exe's has gone down. Most things get packaged into MSI. This is fine.
Maybe what he wants is an easier way for developers to package their stuff for many distros.
Actually, most commercial Linux applications come in two flavors: packaged and tarball. There is a whole section of Linux distros that do not use any formal binary package management, so a non-packaged version is always made available. FatELF would be immensely useful for that.
We're probably too uninteresting for them
It's still an idea. Anyway, it still doesn't preclude that aliens could have technology that manipulates time or space even if we don't. And additionally, its only talking about our galaxy, not the whole universe.
A theory is something that has been mathematically proven. But any theory done relies on assumptions that we make, so it is still possible to be wrong.
But that assumes that we have the correct information for the "big bang" theory. The universe could have started far earlier, and we wouldn't really know. It's only a theory, not fact.
This is also assuming that alien science matches our own. Aliens could be far further ahead or far behind us in terms of technology and advancements in space travel.
Actually, that might be unenforceable... I think there was a court case a few years ago that decided that "shrinkwrap" licenses like that were technically invalid, since the user never explicitly agreed to it. And to remove the ability to refund if you don't want to agree to it would make people really angry.
Oops, also, to drop the initial software cost on Linux to zero, you could use Wine instead of CrossOver Linux.
Well put! I wondered when somebody would pull something like this out of their hat.
My Linux box runs:
Fedora 11
OpenOffice
Blender
VMware Workstation ($190)
GIMP
Apache/PHP/MySQL/PgSQL
Mono & MonoDevelop
GNU compiler collection toolkit
Qt & GTK+
Firefox 3.5
Opera
VLC
CrossOver Linux Professional ($80)
With all those applications, adding in the $1000 cost of my computer hardware, I only had to buy a license for VMware ($190) and since I play games to, I opted for CrossOver Linux Professional too ($80). Only $1210.
Now, lets compare that with comparable systems in Windows:
Windows Server 2008 w/ 5 CALs ($840)
Microsoft Office 2007 Ultimate ($680)
3ds MAX ($3500)
VMware Workstation ($190)
Adobe Photoshop ($700)
IIS/ASP.net/PHP/MySQL/PgSQL (Included with OS cost)
Visual Studio 2008 Professional ($800)
Qt
Internet Explorer 8 & Firefox 3.5
Opera
Windows Media Player & VLC
Now, with that system, adding in $1000 hardware cost, would total to be about $7710. Now, you could cut some of these costs by replacing them with cross-platform open source versions, like 3ds MAX with Blender and Photoshop with GIMP, which would be $2510. Cutting out Office 2007 and replacing it with OpenOffice would bring it down to $1830.
In the end, the initial cost of ownership is quite a bit higher for a Windows based system over a Linux one. But, that is to be expected, given that Windows isn't free. And on a Windows based system, its much more likely they will buy the software suggested on the list that would bring it to about $7710, rather than compromise and cut it down. If you needed Microsoft's SQL Server 2008 Standard, that would set you back at least another $2000 or at most $6000.
Additionally, if you wanted to bring the initial software cost to zero on a Linux box, you could use Sun's xVM VirtualBox instead of VMware Workstation. I picked VMware because it was the best. Also, some of the Windows software, like Photoshop, might be usable under Linux when combined with either CrossOver or Wine in addition to video games.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this what PolicyKit is all about?
I think it is... I believe Red Hat and Fedora have the ability to use PolicyKit/ConsoleKit to lock down GNOME and console. I'm not so sure about KDE, though.
That is great to know... Because I was worried that id Software would start abandoning its Linux versions.... And that would make me a very sad camper :'(
I don't buy games very often, but when I do, usually I buy PC games that are cross-platform, or games for my console (currently Nintendo Wii)