With all due respect to the learned individuals in question (to whom I have a great deal of admiration) the very point of the article is to point out that the Go language seems to have not benefited from some of the hard-earned experience of recent decades. A programmer experienced in C and its descendants C++, Java and C# for example, will have a personal litany of the good and bad things about the languages in question. I,for example, consider the generics of C++, Java and C# to be an improvement; while I also maintain that the multiple-inheritance of C++ was a mistake that was eventually remedied in languages like Java. Every programmer has his or her own take such things; but on some things there is broad consensus. Ubiquitous in post-C languages, inheritance, strong typing, assertions and exceptions are considered vital aspects of modern programming by such a broad consensus that they have become almost axiomatic. To dismiss such collective wisdom with remarks such as "programmers use these [assertions] as a crutch to avoid thinking about proper error handling and reporting" belies disregard or even ignorance of the hard-won experience of the decades since C was invented. This is the point the article and also of my post.
I draw no conclusion in my story. It is your comprehension or lack thereof that leads you to draw a conclusion that you think is "fail"; so... if you send me your microsoft.com email address, I can send though some kernel design ideas....
This is a blog, not an article written to journalistic standards. If your ire is an objection to what you perceive as "Google-bashing", then I assure you that my commentary is solely based on the merits of the Go language as I perceive them though my filter of 30 years experience as a programmer.
While "frickin" laser beams are awesome, especially ones that size, it is so much easier for a star with plenty of gravity that does all that particle squishing for free.
When I was young my dad and I built a go-kart that used the power train straight out of my grandmother's electric wheelchair. It was fast and looked cool and for a time I felt like the Alain Prost of my entire neighborhood. There was one small problem though... my grandmother was still using her wheelchair at the time. So when she wanted to go out, we would put the battery and motor back in the wheelchair and when I wanted to use the kart we would swap it back. It took about twenty minutes and since she only went out once or twice a week, it wasn't too much of a hassle (for me at least.) It is at this point in the story that my mother pointed out something so ridiculously obvious that it would probably baffle, disorient and possibly even permanently educate Microsoft kernel developers... you know who you are... you have been warned...
My dad, being an enthusiastic amateur engineer improved the swap out time by mounting the whole assembly to a bracket that we could take out of one and bolt into the other in under ten minutes. I remember him and me being excessively proud of this rapid start up time. But then my mother dropped a bombshell that changed the face of go-kart engineering in our household forever. She suggested that we use the DC motor and battery pack from the Flymo lawnmower that sat gathering dust in the garden shed because my Dad hated using it. The mower motor and battery were both lighter and with a bit of gearing, the kart was faster than ever. I was happy, granny was happy, dad was happy and the startup time was reduced from ten minutes to zero seconds.
Thank you Nike. We realize you had a choice of schmucks to freely promote your ridiculous looking new shoes. We thank you for using/. as your viral marketing conduit of choice.
Making a State Law that says you do is unconstitutional.
While I agree that a state court finding in conflict with a supreme court ruling is at best a parochial legal challenge and at worst a shameful waste of time and legal resource, it does not qualify as "unconstitutional".
The idiocy of politicians seems to rise to greater and greater heights.
"complex and sophisticated electronic crimes are rarely perpetrated by a lone individual"
This ridiculous statement is entirely redundant. It's like saying "organized crime is rarely committed by an individual". But what is fathomlessly ridiculous about this proposed legislation is that it imposes tougher penalties on ALL hackers, including graffiti-artist teenagers and undergrad pranksters, not because the punishment does not fit the severity of their crimes, but because there are criminals also called "hackers" that actually do commit serious crimes.
This is akin to giving a motorist jail time instead of a $50 speeding ticket because they could have used the car to commit vehicular homicide.
Agreed. And by this yard stick, shouldn't there be a distinction between organized terrorism and individuals doing the same? Pretty soon there will be enough of this legal nonsense to condemn anyone who speaks to someone that commits a crime as a mobster or terror cell. Hello fear, bye bye liberty.... wait... that's just what Bin Laden wanted wasn't it?
Surprised that someone hasn't pointed out this simple factoid in the last 204 comments: No matter how damaging it may be to the parties involved, the truth can never be defamatory.
The right to justice was won through centuries of suffering; but now history's sting appears dull. Liberties that great people died to protect we complacently let erode into ashes. Such prior restraint defiles the meaning of "Innocent until proven guilty," which we have all cherished as an underpinning of freedom. The due process of law is not a privilege, it is an entitlement of every free human being. Do not lightly surrender this right, especially at the bequest of the ignorant on behalf of the incompetent.
I suggest you look up the word "simile". The meaning hasn't changed in the 28 years since I was at school. Also, look up the meanings of the terms you are using before you post, because next time you are trolling you will make less of a fool of yourself.
Does this give anyone else the impression that we are like insects, living, moving, dying too fast to appreciate the slowly unfolding majesty of the Universe?
Slashdot Mirror
As I have always suspected, the financial markets attract sociopaths like flies to carrion
Yes, your family would become very wealthy if they can prove it was a falling piece of UARS that vaporized you.
Lying down might imperceptibly lower your odds odds of survival. The paper bag might be a good idea though.
I'll place a bet on that... what odds are you offering?
With all due respect to the learned individuals in question (to whom I have a great deal of admiration) the very point of the article is to point out that the Go language seems to have not benefited from some of the hard-earned experience of recent decades. A programmer experienced in C and its descendants C++, Java and C# for example, will have a personal litany of the good and bad things about the languages in question. I,for example, consider the generics of C++, Java and C# to be an improvement; while I also maintain that the multiple-inheritance of C++ was a mistake that was eventually remedied in languages like Java. Every programmer has his or her own take such things; but on some things there is broad consensus. Ubiquitous in post-C languages, inheritance, strong typing, assertions and exceptions are considered vital aspects of modern programming by such a broad consensus that they have become almost axiomatic. To dismiss such collective wisdom with remarks such as "programmers use these [assertions] as a crutch to avoid thinking about proper error handling and reporting" belies disregard or even ignorance of the hard-won experience of the decades since C was invented. This is the point the article and also of my post.
I draw no conclusion in my story. It is your comprehension or lack thereof that leads you to draw a conclusion that you think is "fail"; so ... if you send me your microsoft.com email address, I can send though some kernel design ideas....
This is a blog, not an article written to journalistic standards. If your ire is an objection to what you perceive as "Google-bashing", then I assure you that my commentary is solely based on the merits of the Go language as I perceive them though my filter of 30 years experience as a programmer.
He says "'It can't any longer be dismissed as something on the far distant horizon.'".. ;)
I agree, it is more like 20 years away
I know another form of fusion on the far distant horizon .... the sun (groan)
Yes. Figuring out artificial gravity would also be cake, if the cake wasn't a lie.
If we can no longer trust cake, then what food? WHAT FOOD?
While "frickin" laser beams are awesome, especially ones that size, it is so much easier for a star with plenty of gravity that does all that particle squishing for free.
Shudder... Go was an epic fail.
http://lexxical.universeii.com/2009/11/googles-new-language-go-please-stop.html was the link I forgot to post.
Shudder... Go was an epic fail.
When I was young my dad and I built a go-kart that used the power train straight out of my grandmother's electric wheelchair. It was fast and looked cool and for a time I felt like the Alain Prost of my entire neighborhood. There was one small problem though... my grandmother was still using her wheelchair at the time. So when she wanted to go out, we would put the battery and motor back in the wheelchair and when I wanted to use the kart we would swap it back. It took about twenty minutes and since she only went out once or twice a week, it wasn't too much of a hassle (for me at least.) It is at this point in the story that my mother pointed out something so ridiculously obvious that it would probably baffle, disorient and possibly even permanently educate Microsoft kernel developers... you know who you are... you have been warned...
My dad, being an enthusiastic amateur engineer improved the swap out time by mounting the whole assembly to a bracket that we could take out of one and bolt into the other in under ten minutes. I remember him and me being excessively proud of this rapid start up time. But then my mother dropped a bombshell that changed the face of go-kart engineering in our household forever. She suggested that we use the DC motor and battery pack from the Flymo lawnmower that sat gathering dust in the garden shed because my Dad hated using it. The mower motor and battery were both lighter and with a bit of gearing, the kart was faster than ever. I was happy, granny was happy, dad was happy and the startup time was reduced from ten minutes to zero seconds.
Which is fine. You and I are the ones actually "using" google's electricity.
I prefer the term "smoke" rather than use and I prefer the term "crack" rather than electricity.
Steve Ballmer's use of oxygen.
You have no proof of that
Al Gore didn't invent electricity to be wasted on the internet.
Thank you Nike. We realize you had a choice of schmucks to freely promote your ridiculous looking new shoes. We thank you for using /. as your viral marketing conduit of choice.
Making a State Law that says you do is unconstitutional.
While I agree that a state court finding in conflict with a supreme court ruling is at best a parochial legal challenge and at worst a shameful waste of time and legal resource, it does not qualify as "unconstitutional".
The idiocy of politicians seems to rise to greater and greater heights.
"complex and sophisticated electronic crimes are rarely perpetrated by a lone individual"
This ridiculous statement is entirely redundant. It's like saying "organized crime is rarely committed by an individual". But what is fathomlessly ridiculous about this proposed legislation is that it imposes tougher penalties on ALL hackers, including graffiti-artist teenagers and undergrad pranksters, not because the punishment does not fit the severity of their crimes, but because there are criminals also called "hackers" that actually do commit serious crimes.
This is akin to giving a motorist jail time instead of a $50 speeding ticket because they could have used the car to commit vehicular homicide.
Agreed. And by this yard stick, shouldn't there be a distinction between organized terrorism and individuals doing the same? Pretty soon there will be enough of this legal nonsense to condemn anyone who speaks to someone that commits a crime as a mobster or terror cell. Hello fear, bye bye liberty.... wait... that's just what Bin Laden wanted wasn't it?
Surprised that someone hasn't pointed out this simple factoid in the last 204 comments: No matter how damaging it may be to the parties involved, the truth can never be defamatory.
"hypocrisy" would be even more fitting. Why not coin a new word even, "Hypiracy"...
The right to justice was won through centuries of suffering; but now history's sting appears dull. Liberties that great people died to protect we complacently let erode into ashes. Such prior restraint defiles the meaning of "Innocent until proven guilty," which we have all cherished as an underpinning of freedom. The due process of law is not a privilege, it is an entitlement of every free human being. Do not lightly surrender this right, especially at the bequest of the ignorant on behalf of the incompetent.
I suggest you look up the word "simile". The meaning hasn't changed in the 28 years since I was at school. Also, look up the meanings of the terms you are using before you post, because next time you are trolling you will make less of a fool of yourself.
Does this give anyone else the impression that we are like insects, living, moving, dying too fast to appreciate the slowly unfolding majesty of the Universe?