Are you at all heartened by the knowledge that for each "spoiled brat" who signs with a major label and makes twice as much as you, there are a hundred bands that signed, worked their asses off, and still ended up tens of thousands of dollars in debt because the label couldn't make stars out of them like the A&R lackey promised?
I feel for them, but I also wish they had taken a statistics class and looked through the records (written not musical) of the other artists who signed. I feel the same thing for them as I do for a few of my family members who are positive that they'll get something back from the casino this week: Pity.
If it weren't for the life work of some of those technicians, you wouldn't HAVE the ability to make a decent-sounding recording on a $1500 budget. Technical innovation trickles down from the obscenely expensive professional studios to the obscenely cheap home recording rigs.
I'm glad it did... but if someone tried to convince me to used their building sized vacuum tube calculator, and pay for the electricity, and pay a usage fee, then pay some fees on top of that... I would just pull out my $9.95 scientific calculator that can do the same damn thing and say "Wow, maybe you should think about finding a new job."
(ps: I wouldn't give a shit less if the commercial top-50 music would die off,
since this is an artificial created beast from the recording industry without real grounds for art, only financial gain, which makes us with artistic intend look bad!)
Hit the nail on the head, my friend. I was attempting to say that very thing, only I just spewed a little too much venom. You are what I want to see, more independent producers creating as a work of passion. If you and your musicians are in my area and have local concerts, chances are I am buying your music.
I saw it happen, is all I have to say. The gentleman in question messed around with music editing and creation software for about a year, but when he *ahem*borrowed*ahem* a professional program suite from a friend, he had used it to create 3 amazing, polished songs by the end of the week (well, used it and ~$3000 worth of random musical equipment). One song got minor radio play in some city near the Oregon/Washington border, so I know someone thought of it as professional.
He only sleeps 3 hours a day and was in between jobs, so I will grant that the amount of time he spent learning that week would be considered abnormal. Still, I would say he came very close to the abilities of a
professional sound tech. That would be the entire point of creating better/stronger programs.
As for pay rates, I'm all for raising the salaries of anyone involved in the actual creation of music.
Most of us WANT you to lose your job. Nothing against you personally. A lot of us know how you feel, stuck in a dieing job with bosses who don't understand what is happening with/to the world.
I don't hate your musicians, I just hate the fact that some spoiled brat can make twice as much as me with half the effort and no college degree. I hate that those brats are being taken advantage of by overgrown bullies that make more money than I can, with low level degrees from classes whose main requirements to graduate are Show Up, and Bullshit Convincingly. I hate that there are sound technicians who took years out of their lives to learn how to use complex machines to make music sound better, when I can do the same damn thing with a $500 microphone, $1000 computer, and free/second-hand software that requires a week of spare time to master ($500 mic optional, I've heard some damn good professional-quality music come from a $25 mic).
Lucky for you for as bad as your industry's future looks, it will take quite a while to crash and burn. Enjoy it while it lasts.
What does it matter if it is perfect or not? Seems to me that it is much better than what we're working with now.
If we want to start talking in that tone, well our "micro" processors and new fangled technologies didn't solve the mysteries of the universe, so we should have stuck with computers the size of buildings that have trouble doing more than adding, subtracting, and multiplying. Hell - they were good enough to design the atomic bomb and our space program, and that's good enough for me!
Besides, does anyone seriously think that we'll gain God-Like-Powers from quantum computing? The only God Mode I expect from the computer starts with the phrase 'iddqd'.
If this really does ever happen I will have to surf the web proxied only. ...or just find a program that sends random website/search requests for set profiles (white male ~18 years old, black female ~30 years old), so that your ISP can never be sure what YOU are doing. Sort of like the program in Cory Doctorow's "Scroogled: What if Google were evil?" or Rudy Rucker's "Mathematicians in Love" (in which the main character gains privacy through obscurity in a simple world where the outcome of every action can be computed before it is started)
Just because it can be on demand, does not mean that is the way every establishment is using it. Just after a few seconds browsing the comments, I've found a comment about a local store that constantly runs it. Even if it was used "on demand," I would like you to think of it as selectively firing a flame thrower into the crowd that contains a criminal. It hits too many bystanders to seem practical or legal.
As I've said before I have no problems with the discipline of nasty little mis-behaving buggers, but I can not condone any punishment that will cause massive pain to anyone from ages 0 ~ 25 that are in the proximate area.
As for the chavs, sounds like y'all need to implement some forced child labor, set up a work hierarchy that allows some of them to preside over others, and make them work for their "rewards" - but, what do I know, I've never seen a chav in my life! (remember, if they have no way to get ahead within the system, they'll be forced to work outside of it)
I was being completely serious while using a quite hated phrase. These devices can bring a 20 year old to his knees from the pain. At 20, it would have taken a hit to the kidneys or the testicles to put me down like that. Now, imagine something that painful hitting every child under the age of five, within a decent sized area (it has to be a loud signal to get that splitting headache effect, so it will take a bit of distance before it isn't a bother). How many kids under the age of five do you personally know that could even take a decent slap on the hand without bursting into tears?
If a business owner used this when my small child was around, I would take this as personal as though the shop owner came out and smacked my baby on the face, and would feel the need to bring my device (the technical term would be "baseball bat") into contact with said owner's cranium.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with punishing hoodlums. Don't coddle the little bastards, tase them for all I care. Just make sure you aren't punishing others as well.
PS:What the Fuck does "born-again Christian" have to do with this? I wasn't aware off-topic flaming of religions somehow made a point more valid. Thank you for clarifying that.
Not my specialty but I'm sure hurting those that are not causing trouble, but will eventually be providing me money, that would be the antithesis of my plan.
Just thought I'd jump into the flame war you seem to be having.
Bush. Fucking. Admitted. The. War. Was. And. Is. About. Oil.
Beyond that, we are not winning. Even the damn army thinks we've been incompetent this whole time.
Who really gives a damn, is more what you should have said. Regardless of why we started this war, or how we've managed it up until this point, we don't have the choice to just pull out.
Do you think America will be stronger if all leading Republicans are frog-marched?
Disclaimer: I am an Independent. That being said, any republican that went along with the new party platform - that was written by the Bush administration when it first came into power - with out a fuss, when it obviously was 180 degrees away from the platform they ran on in 1996, yes. That would be a breach of trust between that official and every
single one of his constituents. Not that there seems to be much complaint from the sheeple of our country, who think "Republican" or "Democrat" is a set of ideals, not a constantly changing hive mind.
Oh, and "Taking down Bush" would go a long way towards bringing our country back to glory. NO ONE is above the law, even if there are separate laws for certain groups. I won't be truly happy until a few of our top brass and government officials are charged no only for their disregard for US law, but with War Crimes for the way we've handled enemy soldiers and civilians, and how we have broken international treaties.
...and Fuck posting this AC, if I have to I'll proudly take a Karma hit for my ideas/ideals.
Man, I will start taking you serious the moment my mind gets around the thought of a one-year-old Criminal.
This isn't stopping theft, it is torturing babies. The worst part? If the parents are too old to hear the sound, they. have. no. clue. what. you. are. doing. to. their. kid.
I'm assuming you don't have little ones of your own. Strike that, I'm hoping you don't have little ones of your own.
Also, on a side note, this seems very stupid from a business sense. Kids grow up to be consumers, and many companies spend massive amounts to burn brand loyalties into their young impressionable minds. How quick will that noise make a massive headache a Pavlovian response to anything related to your brand.
Seems more like they're shooting themselves in the foot, not protecting themselves.
Miss, I don't think you were listing to the right music. After all the loud amplified music I listened to in my youth, a high frequency ringing is just about all I hear.
I just had to deal with spending 3+ hours to download a 150MB file, due to my entire connection going down every time I have Bit Torrent up for more than ~5 minutes. From what I've read, Cox is supposedly using the same forging method as Comcast. When does the FCC start hanging other companies out to dry?...or, do they feel that putting pressure on only one company will solve the problem?
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You only get that kind of money for copyrights that have been registered with the government, a process which many non-label artists forgo.
...You're talking about (possible) DRM on a product given freely. This is about the only time I can accept DRM.
The books are part of an add campaign, and don't cost me a dime! I would be greedy to expect them to last beyond the the initial advertising push.
Sure, if I buy something I want complete control, but this seems more like borrowing.
This is just publicity until their new site is functional. They're not giving away an ebook a week, that is just till their real site comes online. Also, you have to read their newsletter they send to you to get the free ebook, so you'll be exposed to plenty of their products that you actually have to buy.
Too good to be true? What are you smoking - this is how I wish every publishing company worked (books, movies, music, art). Instead of just sending me crappy adds I haven't asked about, for products I don't want, they're paying me with free swag to view their adds that I actually asked to view. They are a business, so of course we'll have to pay for something eventually, but I'd be glad to give my money to a smart/savvy company with a good product.
I've been a huge fan of Baen since their free library, but on average I like Tor books better so this makes me much more happy.
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I feel for them, but I also wish they had taken a statistics class and looked through the records (written not musical) of the other artists who signed. I feel the same thing for them as I do for a few of my family members who are positive that they'll get something back from the casino this week: Pity.
If it weren't for the life work of some of those technicians, you wouldn't HAVE the ability to make a decent-sounding recording on a $1500 budget. Technical innovation trickles down from the obscenely expensive professional studios to the obscenely cheap home recording rigs.
I'm glad it did... but if someone tried to convince me to used their building sized vacuum tube calculator, and pay for the electricity, and pay a usage fee, then pay some fees on top of that... I would just pull out my $9.95 scientific calculator that can do the same damn thing and say "Wow, maybe you should think about finding a new job."
Hit the nail on the head, my friend. I was attempting to say that very thing, only I just spewed a little too much venom. You are what I want to see, more independent producers creating as a work of passion. If you and your musicians are in my area and have local concerts, chances are I am buying your music.
I saw it happen, is all I have to say. The gentleman in question messed around with music editing and creation software for about a year, but when he *ahem*borrowed*ahem* a professional program suite from a friend, he had used it to create 3 amazing, polished songs by the end of the week (well, used it and ~$3000 worth of random musical equipment). One song got minor radio play in some city near the Oregon/Washington border, so I know someone thought of it as professional.
He only sleeps 3 hours a day and was in between jobs, so I will grant that the amount of time he spent learning that week would be considered abnormal. Still, I would say he came very close to the abilities of a professional sound tech. That would be the entire point of creating better/stronger programs.
As for pay rates, I'm all for raising the salaries of anyone involved in the actual creation of music.
...to read an anti-racism AC post. Until you realize (s)he didn't read two comments down within the same thread for the obvious answer.
Smart, Private, Good-natured: You only get to pick two!
Most of us WANT you to lose your job. Nothing against you personally. A lot of us know how you feel, stuck in a dieing job with bosses who don't understand what is happening with/to the world.
I don't hate your musicians, I just hate the fact that some spoiled brat can make twice as much as me with half the effort and no college degree. I hate that those brats are being taken advantage of by overgrown bullies that make more money than I can, with low level degrees from classes whose main requirements to graduate are Show Up, and Bullshit Convincingly. I hate that there are sound technicians who took years out of their lives to learn how to use complex machines to make music sound better, when I can do the same damn thing with a $500 microphone, $1000 computer, and free/second-hand software that requires a week of spare time to master ($500 mic optional, I've heard some damn good professional-quality music come from a $25 mic).
Lucky for you for as bad as your industry's future looks, it will take quite a while to crash and burn. Enjoy it while it lasts.
I'd love to know how many AC posts are actually Anonymous in disguise!
Don't forget "and are willing to have sex with you"
What does it matter if it is perfect or not? Seems to me that it is much better than what we're working with now.
If we want to start talking in that tone, well our "micro" processors and new fangled technologies didn't solve the mysteries of the universe, so we should have stuck with computers the size of buildings that have trouble doing more than adding, subtracting, and multiplying. Hell - they were good enough to design the atomic bomb and our space program, and that's good enough for me!
Besides, does anyone seriously think that we'll gain God-Like-Powers from quantum computing? The only God Mode I expect from the computer starts with the phrase 'iddqd'.
Tell her you're not gay, you just got tricked into visiting goatse a few dozen times.
Just reason #86 to switch to Firefox with Adblock Plus (lets 86 those adds)!
That's nothing! I can perform for 3 seconds once every ten minutes!
Just because it can be on demand, does not mean that is the way every establishment is using it. Just after a few seconds browsing the comments, I've found a comment about a local store that constantly runs it. Even if it was used "on demand," I would like you to think of it as selectively firing a flame thrower into the crowd that contains a criminal. It hits too many bystanders to seem practical or legal.
As I've said before I have no problems with the discipline of nasty little mis-behaving buggers, but I can not condone any punishment that will cause massive pain to anyone from ages 0 ~ 25 that are in the proximate area.
As for the chavs, sounds like y'all need to implement some forced child labor, set up a work hierarchy that allows some of them to preside over others, and make them work for their "rewards" - but, what do I know, I've never seen a chav in my life! (remember, if they have no way to get ahead within the system, they'll be forced to work outside of it)
I was being completely serious while using a quite hated phrase. These devices can bring a 20 year old to his knees from the pain. At 20, it would have taken a hit to the kidneys or the testicles to put me down like that. Now, imagine something that painful hitting every child under the age of five, within a decent sized area (it has to be a loud signal to get that splitting headache effect, so it will take a bit of distance before it isn't a bother). How many kids under the age of five do you personally know that could even take a decent slap on the hand without bursting into tears?
If a business owner used this when my small child was around, I would take this as personal as though the shop owner came out and smacked my baby on the face, and would feel the need to bring my device (the technical term would be "baseball bat") into contact with said owner's cranium.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with punishing hoodlums. Don't coddle the little bastards, tase them for all I care. Just make sure you aren't punishing others as well.
PS:What the Fuck does "born-again Christian" have to do with this? I wasn't aware off-topic flaming of religions somehow made a point more valid. Thank you for clarifying that.
Not my specialty but I'm sure hurting those that are not causing trouble, but will eventually be providing me money, that would be the antithesis of my plan.
Bush. Fucking. Admitted. The. War. Was. And. Is. About. Oil.
Beyond that, we are not winning. Even the damn army thinks we've been incompetent this whole time.
Who really gives a damn, is more what you should have said. Regardless of why we started this war, or how we've managed it up until this point, we don't have the choice to just pull out.
Do you think America will be stronger if all leading Republicans are frog-marched?
Disclaimer: I am an Independent. That being said, any republican that went along with the new party platform - that was written by the Bush administration when it first came into power - with out a fuss, when it obviously was 180 degrees away from the platform they ran on in 1996, yes. That would be a breach of trust between that official and every single one of his constituents. Not that there seems to be much complaint from the sheeple of our country, who think "Republican" or "Democrat" is a set of ideals, not a constantly changing hive mind.
Oh, and "Taking down Bush" would go a long way towards bringing our country back to glory. NO ONE is above the law, even if there are separate laws for certain groups. I won't be truly happy until a few of our top brass and government officials are charged no only for their disregard for US law, but with War Crimes for the way we've handled enemy soldiers and civilians, and how we have broken international treaties.
Man, I will start taking you serious the moment my mind gets around the thought of a one-year-old Criminal.
This isn't stopping theft, it is torturing babies. The worst part? If the parents are too old to hear the sound, they. have. no. clue. what. you. are. doing. to. their. kid.
I'm assuming you don't have little ones of your own. Strike that, I'm hoping you don't have little ones of your own.
Also, on a side note, this seems very stupid from a business sense. Kids grow up to be consumers, and many companies spend massive amounts to burn brand loyalties into their young impressionable minds. How quick will that noise make a massive headache a Pavlovian response to anything related to your brand.
Seems more like they're shooting themselves in the foot, not protecting themselves.
Nope, he's just going to chase you off with his new-fangeled sound do-hicky.
Miss, I don't think you were listing to the right music. After all the loud amplified music I listened to in my youth, a high frequency ringing is just about all I hear.
A way to make you darn kids get off my lawn!
I just had to deal with spending 3+ hours to download a 150MB file, due to my entire connection going down every time I have Bit Torrent up for more than ~5 minutes. From what I've read, Cox is supposedly using the same forging method as Comcast. When does the FCC start hanging other companies out to dry? ...or, do they feel that putting pressure on only one company will solve the problem?
You only get that kind of money for copyrights that have been registered with the government, a process which many non-label artists forgo.
...You're talking about (possible) DRM on a product given freely. This is about the only time I can accept DRM.
The books are part of an add campaign, and don't cost me a dime! I would be greedy to expect them to last beyond the the initial advertising push.
Sure, if I buy something I want complete control, but this seems more like borrowing.
This is just publicity until their new site is functional. They're not giving away an ebook a week, that is just till their real site comes online. Also, you have to read their newsletter they send to you to get the free ebook, so you'll be exposed to plenty of their products that you actually have to buy.
Too good to be true? What are you smoking - this is how I wish every publishing company worked (books, movies, music, art). Instead of just sending me crappy adds I haven't asked about, for products I don't want, they're paying me with free swag to view their adds that I actually asked to view. They are a business, so of course we'll have to pay for something eventually, but I'd be glad to give my money to a smart/savvy company with a good product.
I've been a huge fan of Baen since their free library, but on average I like Tor books better so this makes me much more happy.