I would hereby like to officially propose to each of those potential train stops that they pay me a mere pittance of $25,000 for a legal and feasibility study to examine the possibility of a TELEPORTATION MACHINE at each stop which would provide *instantaneous* travel to any of the other stops.
You could get computers about 15 times more powerful than his old system with 1000 times as much storage for under $300. My guess is that the hard drives are definitely going to fail in 10-15 years -- possibly several times. You could get a motherboard with RAID 5 and that would help prevent data loss.
You would also need an install disk for Windows 95 or Windows 98 -- try to get the most recent operating system that this dinosaur can still run on.
I would also expect that the fans and the power supply might get kind of tired after 15 years.Another consideration is the connection technology of power supplies and hard drives. Hard drives are all SATA now. I'd bet that will change at least twice in 10-15 years so you might consider buying a few extra hard drives -- but only when the next big hard drive connect technology has been announced. They'll be cheaper then.
If you want to replace the software, you *might* consider migrating his data to the cloud or something (google docs or Amazon EC2 or something? I don't know what his software does). Changing his software setup is a lot more work though and you could incur significant time and effort and expense extracting the data from the legacy system and getting it into some new format. On the other hand, if you trust Google/Amazon/whoever to be your cloud provider for the next 10-15 years, you don't really have to worry about the machine.
I know what a pro workstation is. You're only showing your ignorance when you lionize the Dell and HP workstations. And to say that newegg components are cheap is just plain wrong.
Any workstation you buy from Dell or HP you can match with parts bought from newegg. At the moment, only Apple is offering the dual nehalem xeons, but that won't last long. In the meantime, you can't get the quadro 5800 from apple and you can't get any 15k drives.
Agreed Vista is P.O.S. There's always BSD or Linux or whatever. Going open source OS would drop the price another $200. Of course, you wouldn't be able to run those fancy multimedia applications like Premiere or After Effects on a *nix machine. I wish Apple had the balls to offer OS X for non-apple hardware.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Not only does newegg sell fully assembled Macs, it sells very pricey workstation components such as multi-thousand dollar RAID systems, video cards far faster than those available at apple.com, and motherboards with much faster RAM speeds than 1066MHz. What you might find even more interesting, is that if you knew how to install your own RAM, you could buy it from newegg for about 40% less than advertised on the apple store.
Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? It couldn't be worse than my morning. I literally awoke to a dog barfing on my head. I'm not making this up.
Anyways I know this is way off topic, but from my perspective, it is YOU who are being an annoying douche. I tried to provide some relevant information and you seem to be taking it personally for some reason. And, like I said, I have a Mac too. And an iPod touch. And I buy songs from iTunes. Last time I checked, slashdot was not a self-congratulatory Mac lover's circle jerk.
What annoys me about apple is exactly what I said -- the extras are over-priced. This is the very natural reason that every single Apple story has posts like this. What annoys me about you is that you are peevish and annoying. To me and people like me, my post was informative. For some reason it's griefing or gloating to you. WTF?
The economics of your cooking example are a poor analogy. I'd have to be able to make that bread in about a minute to justify saving $2. As I said in my other post, I'd be happy to make $3,000 in several hours though. It's different by orders of magnitude.
Even so, I'm currently growing dill, rosemary, basil, parsley, tomatoes, and some other stuff because I ENJOY growing things. Likewise, I enjoy tinkering with computer guts. I can appreciate that you might prefer to 'enjoy life' in some other way rather than assemble your own computer. My response to that is that you might save a great deal of money if you knew how to assemble your own machine. Enough, in fact, to buy a weeklong cruise. But maybe that's not your idea of a good time.
Because the pile of pieces can be assembled with the OS installed in under a few hours. An equivalent Mac (oh wait, there IS NO EQUIVALENT MAC AVAILABLE AS A TURNKEY SYSTEM) would easily cost you twice as much. Personally, I would consider myself lucky to make 3 grand in a few hours.
And, btw, I'm not anti-apple. I love OS X. I have an iMac on my desk right now. I do, however, hate the overpriced options in the apple store. While the baseline prices are not bad, everything else is easily 50% more than it needs to be.
Furthermore, I'm not a troll. I post here all the time. Just because you're afraid of the guts of a computer doesn't make me a troll. On the contrary, this is relevant information -- especially useful for folks wearing Mac blinders. You should take it to heart.
* 2.66 GHZ Nehalem 920, overclocked to well over 3.2GHZ. * ASUS p6t6 mobo with LOTS of features like SAS ports, RAID 0/1/5/10, at least 3 PCI-X x16 slots, eSATA connectors, etc. * ATI 4870 with 1GB DDR5 RAM * 12 GB RAM capable of 1600 Mhz (rather than 1066 avail on the Mac) * 750 Watt Corsair PSU with gobs of connecting cables * not one but FOUR WD 640 GB drive configured as RAID 0/1/5/10 * LG Bluray burner * Acer 23" monitor * Windows vista 64 * mouse, keyboard
Anyone know when Nehalem Xeon chips might be available for the rest of us? Then we'll compare apples to apples. Damn Mac tax!
To beat the dead horse of the 'Information Superhighway' analogy, let us compare the Internet as infrastructure to our roads as infrastructure. The Interstate Highway system was planned and funded by the federal government and has done more to enhance the economic growth of the United States than probably any other public investment in our history. Without the federal government feeling envy about Hitler's autobahn, the Interstate highway system would NEVER EVER have been built by private investment and we would likely be much less wealthy as a nation than we are today.
Let's also take a look at the list of 'most wired' countries. What strikes me immediately is that nearly all of them are much more socialist-leaning than the United States. Denmark, Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden, Finland, etc. South Korea's dramatic improvements lately have been attributed to that nation's deliberate subsidies and investements. They are also geographically quite small.
I'll be the first to complain about wasteful government programs (I LOATHE the California DMV more than nearly any agency on earth) but, having dealt with Adelphia, Time Warner, and AT&T in the past, I seriously doubt that the so-called 'competition' we have in the ISP industry is going to accomplish anything except higher prices and bandwidth caps. One might recall that the 700Mhz spectrum auction -- supposedly a panacea for lack of competition -- resulted in the incumbents buying everything up.
Let's face it. There is really no competition. I live in Los Angeles and my only option is Time Warner. This is some serious bullshit.
This is the first post in here which actually tries to answer the original question. I believe the answer is due to poor OS design. As far as I know, linux will much more effectively use nearly all of your RAM before it tries to swap anything out to disk. Not so with windows.
I'm truly shocked at all the pedantic nit picking that is going on in this thread. It was a simple question and we know what he's asking.
Overall revenues have definitely declined, but I can't help but wonder if the decline might be largely due to a more effective distribution system. When CDs are sold, the revenue is distributed among CD manufacturers, trucking companies, and record stores as well as a big team of employees at the record label who try and 'sell' the CDs to the record stores. If you can distribute your music without having to share revenue with all those chumps, I would imagine that profits at the artist level might be steady -- possibly even improved.
Does anyone have a more specific idea of how these revenues are broken out?
Gimme a break. 'Agile Programming' is just an appallingly pretentious buzzword describing a myopic development process which misappropriates components built by other people to a task they were never intended to solve. I.e., a circle jerk running down a blind alley, smearing lipstick on a colossal pig with terminal cancer.
I was an astrophysics major in college for about 2 years but gave up on it because it seemed so speculative. To infer the existence of a planet around a star from the 'wobble' we see in the position or spectrum of the star may be sound science but it hardly grabs the imagination.
THIS, on the other hand is truly awesome. Seeing is believing I guess. Unless some kid is dicking around with Photoshop -- or more likely GIMP.
Slashdot Mirror
Can you say DDoS? Obviously the top priority of the military in all other nations of the world should be learning how to hijack that beast.
Anyone have any clue how Nehalem and these multicore AMD beasts would compare for video editing or render farm applications?
I would hereby like to officially propose to each of those potential train stops that they pay me a mere pittance of $25,000 for a legal and feasibility study to examine the possibility of a TELEPORTATION MACHINE at each stop which would provide *instantaneous* travel to any of the other stops.
It's starting to sound like Takeshi's Castle ("Most Extreme Elimination Challenge") or Wipeout. Haha. Pirates are funny.
Like 'pick the pretty girl' or perhaps 'type the name of the object in the photo'.
You could get computers about 15 times more powerful than his old system with 1000 times as much storage for under $300. My guess is that the hard drives are definitely going to fail in 10-15 years -- possibly several times. You could get a motherboard with RAID 5 and that would help prevent data loss.
You would also need an install disk for Windows 95 or Windows 98 -- try to get the most recent operating system that this dinosaur can still run on.
I would also expect that the fans and the power supply might get kind of tired after 15 years.Another consideration is the connection technology of power supplies and hard drives. Hard drives are all SATA now. I'd bet that will change at least twice in 10-15 years so you might consider buying a few extra hard drives -- but only when the next big hard drive connect technology has been announced. They'll be cheaper then.
If you want to replace the software, you *might* consider migrating his data to the cloud or something (google docs or Amazon EC2 or something? I don't know what his software does). Changing his software setup is a lot more work though and you could incur significant time and effort and expense extracting the data from the legacy system and getting it into some new format. On the other hand, if you trust Google/Amazon/whoever to be your cloud provider for the next 10-15 years, you don't really have to worry about the machine.
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I know what a pro workstation is. You're only showing your ignorance when you lionize the Dell and HP workstations. And to say that newegg components are cheap is just plain wrong.
For example, a dual-socket intel Skulltrail mobo is $600:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121330
This asus mobo is also $600:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131287
There are 15k hard drives faster than anything you'll find in the apple store:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822332012
You can also get the nVidia quadro 5800 at newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133253
Any workstation you buy from Dell or HP you can match with parts bought from newegg. At the moment, only Apple is offering the dual nehalem xeons, but that won't last long. In the meantime, you can't get the quadro 5800 from apple and you can't get any 15k drives.
Agreed Vista is P.O.S. There's always BSD or Linux or whatever. Going open source OS would drop the price another $200. Of course, you wouldn't be able to run those fancy multimedia applications like Premiere or After Effects on a *nix machine. I wish Apple had the balls to offer OS X for non-apple hardware.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Not only does newegg sell fully assembled Macs, it sells very pricey workstation components such as multi-thousand dollar RAID systems, video cards far faster than those available at apple.com, and motherboards with much faster RAM speeds than 1066MHz. What you might find even more interesting, is that if you knew how to install your own RAM, you could buy it from newegg for about 40% less than advertised on the apple store.
Dell != Newegg
Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? It couldn't be worse than my morning. I literally awoke to a dog barfing on my head. I'm not making this up.
Anyways I know this is way off topic, but from my perspective, it is YOU who are being an annoying douche. I tried to provide some relevant information and you seem to be taking it personally for some reason. And, like I said, I have a Mac too. And an iPod touch. And I buy songs from iTunes. Last time I checked, slashdot was not a self-congratulatory Mac lover's circle jerk.
What annoys me about apple is exactly what I said -- the extras are over-priced. This is the very natural reason that every single Apple story has posts like this. What annoys me about you is that you are peevish and annoying. To me and people like me, my post was informative. For some reason it's griefing or gloating to you. WTF?
Another thing: A vanilla bean will set you back about $2.
The economics of your cooking example are a poor analogy. I'd have to be able to make that bread in about a minute to justify saving $2. As I said in my other post, I'd be happy to make $3,000 in several hours though. It's different by orders of magnitude.
Even so, I'm currently growing dill, rosemary, basil, parsley, tomatoes, and some other stuff because I ENJOY growing things. Likewise, I enjoy tinkering with computer guts. I can appreciate that you might prefer to 'enjoy life' in some other way rather than assemble your own computer. My response to that is that you might save a great deal of money if you knew how to assemble your own machine. Enough, in fact, to buy a weeklong cruise. But maybe that's not your idea of a good time.
Because the pile of pieces can be assembled with the OS installed in under a few hours. An equivalent Mac (oh wait, there IS NO EQUIVALENT MAC AVAILABLE AS A TURNKEY SYSTEM) would easily cost you twice as much. Personally, I would consider myself lucky to make 3 grand in a few hours.
And, btw, I'm not anti-apple. I love OS X. I have an iMac on my desk right now. I do, however, hate the overpriced options in the apple store. While the baseline prices are not bad, everything else is easily 50% more than it needs to be.
Furthermore, I'm not a troll. I post here all the time. Just because you're afraid of the guts of a computer doesn't make me a troll. On the contrary, this is relevant information -- especially useful for folks wearing Mac blinders. You should take it to heart.
* 2.66 GHZ Nehalem 920, overclocked to well over 3.2GHZ.
* ASUS p6t6 mobo with LOTS of features like SAS ports, RAID 0/1/5/10, at least 3 PCI-X x16 slots, eSATA connectors, etc.
* ATI 4870 with 1GB DDR5 RAM
* 12 GB RAM capable of 1600 Mhz (rather than 1066 avail on the Mac)
* 750 Watt Corsair PSU with gobs of connecting cables
* not one but FOUR WD 640 GB drive configured as RAID 0/1/5/10
* LG Bluray burner
* Acer 23" monitor
* Windows vista 64
* mouse, keyboard
Anyone know when Nehalem Xeon chips might be available for the rest of us? Then we'll compare apples to apples. Damn Mac tax!
To beat the dead horse of the 'Information Superhighway' analogy, let us compare the Internet as infrastructure to our roads as infrastructure. The Interstate Highway system was planned and funded by the federal government and has done more to enhance the economic growth of the United States than probably any other public investment in our history. Without the federal government feeling envy about Hitler's autobahn, the Interstate highway system would NEVER EVER have been built by private investment and we would likely be much less wealthy as a nation than we are today.
Let's also take a look at the list of 'most wired' countries. What strikes me immediately is that nearly all of them are much more socialist-leaning than the United States. Denmark, Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden, Finland, etc. South Korea's dramatic improvements lately have been attributed to that nation's deliberate subsidies and investements. They are also geographically quite small.
I'll be the first to complain about wasteful government programs (I LOATHE the California DMV more than nearly any agency on earth) but, having dealt with Adelphia, Time Warner, and AT&T in the past, I seriously doubt that the so-called 'competition' we have in the ISP industry is going to accomplish anything except higher prices and bandwidth caps. One might recall that the 700Mhz spectrum auction -- supposedly a panacea for lack of competition -- resulted in the incumbents buying everything up.
Let's face it. There is really no competition. I live in Los Angeles and my only option is Time Warner. This is some serious bullshit.
I wonder if they'll honor the open source license requirements and publish derivative code. Isn't Fedora GPL?
And yes, the almighty FSM does use Debian.
This is the first post in here which actually tries to answer the original question. I believe the answer is due to poor OS design. As far as I know, linux will much more effectively use nearly all of your RAM before it tries to swap anything out to disk. Not so with windows.
I'm truly shocked at all the pedantic nit picking that is going on in this thread. It was a simple question and we know what he's asking.
Overall revenues have definitely declined, but I can't help but wonder if the decline might be largely due to a more effective distribution system. When CDs are sold, the revenue is distributed among CD manufacturers, trucking companies, and record stores as well as a big team of employees at the record label who try and 'sell' the CDs to the record stores. If you can distribute your music without having to share revenue with all those chumps, I would imagine that profits at the artist level might be steady -- possibly even improved.
Does anyone have a more specific idea of how these revenues are broken out?
http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/magazine/16-05/ff_wozniak?currentPage=all
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/04/smart_software
Gimme a break. 'Agile Programming' is just an appallingly pretentious buzzword describing a myopic development process which misappropriates components built by other people to a task they were never intended to solve. I.e., a circle jerk running down a blind alley, smearing lipstick on a colossal pig with terminal cancer.
I know, flamebait. Flame away!
Somebody tell the BertIsEvil guy.
I was an astrophysics major in college for about 2 years but gave up on it because it seemed so speculative. To infer the existence of a planet around a star from the 'wobble' we see in the position or spectrum of the star may be sound science but it hardly grabs the imagination.
THIS, on the other hand is truly awesome. Seeing is believing I guess. Unless some kid is dicking around with Photoshop -- or more likely GIMP.
This will no doubt lead to the use of dogs to determine whether people are smokers when they establish a health insurance policy.