It's just dumb to say that we need this kind of thing. What about your house? Do we let authorities break in to our houses undetected? Seeing how virtual things are getting these days, your house might as well be your computer in a few metaphorical ways. Your statement reeks of uninforment... governments don't NEED to do this, if they NEEDed to do this, we'd all be in a way more worse world than we are. In addition to that, once you open the floodgates, it allows just yet another avenue to have the man control your life, snoop in on your personal stuff, hell, even allowing corrupt indiviuals STEAL from you!
Every's reflections are indicative of the confusion Mac and Windows specialists must feel as they survey the changing state of the industry.
Ahahahaha...
That must be a blow to Every's pride. It's true tho - I think that a lot of "computer specalists" have trouble grasping the concept that everything doesn't come in a pretty little package for them.. or that they don't even have enough patience to actually put everything together that they need to actually have a excellent open source system going. Some specalists!
It's kinda funny tho, this is happening everywhere now. Software cracking. DVD encryption decoding. Domain wars. Very intresting stuff...
I think a lot of companies are *just* figuring out that the interent is a totally different communication beast then they've ever expirienced. Companies like eToys are shocked and apalled when they get a letter from some grandpa saying that he's not shopping at thier site ever again because he was the moron that typed the name wrong. A large number of the DVD encryption keys are cracked because some company didn't hide thier key properly. So instead of trying to fix the problems, they decide to do what they do best: point the finger. It's easy enough to do that but until you actually FIX the problem, they're just gonna keep coming and coming. It'll happen even if you do fix it.
Time to wake up and smell the silicon, uncle money bags.
The actual constituent for full-time labor in Canada is 40.. I work that, but I'm not even technically full time yet. Amazing eh? The funny part is if I make a fuss about it the matter just gets heard by upper managment and I get canned... I could screw my company over big time right now with the LRB but of course who wants that hanging over thier head when you're trying to look for a job in a field where your work rights are never looked after (non union)... I'm sure there's other people in this same fix.
Course, my direct managment and supervisors are sympathetic to this and don't kill me at my job.. heh.
In any case, there is no way they'd get me to work outside those hours, and they don't try to.. but outside of that, I'm also a DJ and promote and throw raves. I put those hours into that entirely because I want to, no one's forcing me to work them. I'm hoping one day to go back to school for sound programming and stuff like that, and this might as well be my second job.
So really... outside of 2-3 hours in my waking day, I'm pretty much working.
Why anyone would moderate up a AC troll is beyond me.
So esentially, a moderator could browse at 1, and mark up and down whatever they see fit.
Only problem with this is that a moderator could abuse thier power, making biased decisions.. I'm assuming that's what the karma system is supposed to prevent. Which makes it not fair.
But you can't have both. I still strongly disagree what the root message of this thread suggests. It's too much of a Nazi approach and personally, one day I'd like my 15 minuites of fame.
The ever-growing section of the internet that blantantly disobey the rules of nettiquite and then turn around and act like brats when they get told off ("Well, I'll do whatever I want, you're not the administrator, you can't tell me what to do!!"), blah...
And LARTNet, the place where the administrators send them when they finally get on thier nerves one time too many.;)
I've always believed that video games are the best programs that you can use to test the performance boundaries of your PC. Where the average spreadsheet application or word processor would run on almost any old system, it usually takes the top of the line powerhouse to run the newer, cutting-edge games of the time.
Well, IMO, things are just the way they are. It is in the general best intrest of the companies that are represented in the RIAA to have thier legal representatives lobby for the control of layer-3 audio, because of the rampant "piracy" of music on the internet (the digital equivalent of getting a copy of a taped album off you buddy.. esentially, how different is it?)
Now the FCC, probably backed and pressured by companies that is *thier* best intrests to control the distribution of digital video, are calling for copy protection of digital tv. I mean, what's really stopping someone from jimmying thier box to thier computers and ripping the programmnig to mpeg? Not much, and if there is right now, then it probably won't be for long.
It's the same old same old, where large companies fight and struggle as they lose thier grip on a monopoly of a distribution format. Only thing now is it's happening on a digital level instead of a analog level. It makes more news now too because it spreads faster.
Well, IMO, things are just the way they are. It is in the general best intrest of the companies that are represented in the RIAA to have thier legal representatives lobby for the control of layer-3 audio, because of the rampant "piracy" of music on the internet (the digital equivalent of getting a copy of a taped album off you buddy.. esentially, how different is it?)
Now the FCC, probably backed and pressured by companies that is *thier* best intrests to control the distribution of digital video, are calling for copy protection of digital tv. I mean, what's really stopping someone from jimmying thier box to thier computers and ripping the programmnig to mpeg? Not much, and if there is right now, then it probably won't be for long.
It's the same old same old, where large companies fight and struggle as they lose thier grip on a monopoly of a distribution format. Only thing now is it's happening on a digital level instead of a analog level. It makes more news now too because it spreads faster.
If that's the case, then there should be provisions in place that allow @home to work directly with the local cable companies to cut off access to abusive customers.. because even if thier news access does get cut off, what's stopping them from spamming? They can still unload a ton of mail to a mail server via pop3 or anything.. I get spam relays from @home IPs all the time. Crack down time.
I know this is a little on a larger scale, but this is probably the metaphorical equivalent of "don't spank me mommy, I won't do it again!!"
Does this mean that @home should not still be punished? The damage has been done, and has been done for a very long time. Like someone said on NANA.usenet, it took 2-3 years of net abuse by @home to have a UDP put on them. 3 years of spam? And finally action has been taken on it.. only to have it blown off by a press release?
IMO I think @home needs a little time to think about what it did.
Oh, and on another note, aren't these people using residential accounts? Last time I checked, accounts that were spamming were cancelled. Flat out, all across the board. Not "Once these customers are identified, we are suspending their news service immediately."
This is exactly why cable should not be a monopoly. In Canada @home has a grip on the whole cable market (there are CRTC proposals in place that are trying to fix that, but nothing's happening for now), so every cable subscriber in canada will be affected pretty much (with the exception of smaller ones in private cable areas, like dccNet here Delta BC). If people had options, they could be using another ISP that gives 2 shakes about nettiquite and would not be affected.
I'd really like to see shorts from this festival archived on the web. I went to the one this year for the first time and it was just pure chaos, and the cartoons were friggin hillarous!! Anyone got any links where I might be able to find some of them? (I know Beyond Grandpa is on the web at http://www.beyondgrandpa.com/, but my friggin terminal here doesn't have quicktime, and I can't install it either... argh)
No kidding. If you think this is a funny point against microsoft, yer probably wrong.. I mean, look how standard the name has become now.. baically he's won them over psychologically now. What's next?
A company sees its stock dropping, hate mail pours in, and threats of DoS attacks on thier networks are looming over thier heads.
Why not try to weasel yourself out of a situation?
They're just like children. You punish them, but when you're not around, they do the same thing all over again.
The next step? Punish them again. They learn eventually.
Re:ETOYS BACKS DOWN? -- Don't be so sure
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Etoy Update
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· Score: 2
From the article:
eToys said it would immediately notify etoy of its decision. Cutler stopped short of saying the lawsuit would be dropped, saying instead the company would not "press" the suit.
"We're moving away from the suit, and that's all I can say at this point," Cutler said.
Don't nessecarily trust your eyes. They did not give word whether or not the suit would be dropped.. and the other article does state that eToys's stock *has* been dropping since the beginning of the month. A simple ploy to give them some good publicity, reduce the amount of hate mail that's been bogging thier system and bring thier stock back up? You decide.
No kidding from a different world - I actually remember reading a business mag once with this real butt-kissing article regarding a "business's legal rights" regardning the taking down of paradoy sites. Creepy stuff.
The were probably whack-a-mole spammers - using free internet access packages to do thier dirty work. Once that account is killed, they move on to the next one.
Slashdot Mirror
Heh... true. But isn't that exactly what I was talking about?
:P
Ah well. Ignorance is bliss, I guess
Just remember - big brother is watching you.
Seriously.
It's just dumb to say that we need this kind of thing. What about your house? Do we let authorities break in to our houses undetected? Seeing how virtual things are getting these days, your house might as well be your computer in a few metaphorical ways. Your statement reeks of uninforment... governments don't NEED to do this, if they NEEDed to do this, we'd all be in a way more worse world than we are. In addition to that, once you open the floodgates, it allows just yet another avenue to have the man control your life, snoop in on your personal stuff, hell, even allowing corrupt indiviuals STEAL from you!
Every's reflections are indicative of the confusion Mac and Windows specialists must feel as they survey the changing state of the industry.
Ahahahaha...
That must be a blow to Every's pride. It's true tho - I think that a lot of "computer specalists" have trouble grasping the concept that everything doesn't come in a pretty little package for them.. or that they don't even have enough patience to actually put everything together that they need to actually have a excellent open source system going. Some specalists!
About time the tables were turned.
It's kinda funny tho, this is happening everywhere now. Software cracking. DVD encryption decoding. Domain wars. Very intresting stuff...
I think a lot of companies are *just* figuring out that the interent is a totally different communication beast then they've ever expirienced. Companies like eToys are shocked and apalled when they get a letter from some grandpa saying that he's not shopping at thier site ever again because he was the moron that typed the name wrong. A large number of the DVD encryption keys are cracked because some company didn't hide thier key properly. So instead of trying to fix the problems, they decide to do what they do best: point the finger. It's easy enough to do that but until you actually FIX the problem, they're just gonna keep coming and coming. It'll happen even if you do fix it.
Time to wake up and smell the silicon, uncle money bags.
...after all, we're all alike.
The actual constituent for full-time labor in Canada is 40.. I work that, but I'm not even technically full time yet. Amazing eh? The funny part is if I make a fuss about it the matter just gets heard by upper managment and I get canned... I could screw my company over big time right now with the LRB but of course who wants that hanging over thier head when you're trying to look for a job in a field where your work rights are never looked after (non union)... I'm sure there's other people in this same fix.
Course, my direct managment and supervisors are sympathetic to this and don't kill me at my job.. heh.
In any case, there is no way they'd get me to work outside those hours, and they don't try to.. but outside of that, I'm also a DJ and promote and throw raves. I put those hours into that entirely because I want to, no one's forcing me to work them. I'm hoping one day to go back to school for sound programming and stuff like that, and this might as well be my second job.
So really... outside of 2-3 hours in my waking day, I'm pretty much working.
Why anyone would moderate up a AC troll is beyond me.
So esentially, a moderator could browse at 1, and mark up and down whatever they see fit.
Only problem with this is that a moderator could abuse thier power, making biased decisions.. I'm assuming that's what the karma system is supposed to prevent. Which makes it not fair.
But you can't have both. I still strongly disagree what the root message of this thread suggests. It's too much of a Nazi approach and personally, one day I'd like my 15 minuites of fame.
Actually, I think it works quite well, switch your threshold to 2, and all of a sudden you have signifigantly less stuff to deal with.
The ever-growing section of the internet that blantantly disobey the rules of nettiquite and then turn around and act like brats when they get told off ("Well, I'll do whatever I want, you're not the administrator, you can't tell me what to do!!"), blah...
;)
And LARTNet, the place where the administrators send them when they finally get on thier nerves one time too many.
I've always believed that video games are the best programs that you can use to test the performance boundaries of your PC. Where the average spreadsheet application or word processor would run on almost any old system, it usually takes the top of the line powerhouse to run the newer, cutting-edge games of the time.
It's all about pushing the envelope. *grin*
oh no way.. I can't belive I just did that. *sigh*
Well, IMO, things are just the way they are. It is in the general best intrest of the companies that are represented in the RIAA to have thier legal representatives lobby for the control of layer-3 audio, because of the rampant "piracy" of music on the internet (the digital equivalent of getting a copy of a taped album off you buddy.. esentially, how different is it?)
Now the FCC, probably backed and pressured by companies that is *thier* best intrests to control the distribution of digital video, are calling for copy protection of digital tv. I mean, what's really stopping someone from jimmying thier box to thier computers and ripping the programmnig to mpeg? Not much, and if there is right now, then it probably won't be for long.
It's the same old same old, where large companies fight and struggle as they lose thier grip on a monopoly of a distribution format. Only thing now is it's happening on a digital level instead of a analog level. It makes more news now too because it spreads faster.
*/rant*
Well, IMO, things are just the way they are. It is in the general best intrest of the companies that are represented in the RIAA to have thier legal representatives lobby for the control of layer-3 audio, because of the rampant "piracy" of music on the internet (the digital equivalent of getting a copy of a taped album off you buddy.. esentially, how different is it?)
Now the FCC, probably backed and pressured by companies that is *thier* best intrests to control the distribution of digital video, are calling for copy protection of digital tv. I mean, what's really stopping someone from jimmying thier box to thier computers and ripping the programmnig to mpeg? Not much, and if there is right now, then it probably won't be for long.
It's the same old same old, where large companies fight and struggle as they lose thier grip on a monopoly of a distribution format. Only thing now is it's happening on a digital level instead of a analog level. It makes more news now too because it spreads faster.
If that's the case, then there should be provisions in place that allow @home to work directly with the local cable companies to cut off access to abusive customers.. because even if thier news access does get cut off, what's stopping them from spamming? They can still unload a ton of mail to a mail server via pop3 or anything.. I get spam relays from @home IPs all the time. Crack down time.
So does this mean that the UDP will be lifted?
I know this is a little on a larger scale, but this is probably the metaphorical equivalent of "don't spank me mommy, I won't do it again!!"
Does this mean that @home should not still be punished? The damage has been done, and has been done for a very long time. Like someone said on NANA.usenet, it took 2-3 years of net abuse by @home to have a UDP put on them. 3 years of spam? And finally action has been taken on it.. only to have it blown off by a press release?
IMO I think @home needs a little time to think about what it did.
Oh, and on another note, aren't these people using residential accounts? Last time I checked, accounts that were spamming were cancelled. Flat out, all across the board. Not "Once these customers are identified, we are suspending their news service immediately."
*sigh*
This is exactly why cable should not be a monopoly. In Canada @home has a grip on the whole cable market (there are CRTC proposals in place that are trying to fix that, but nothing's happening for now), so every cable subscriber in canada will be affected pretty much (with the exception of smaller ones in private cable areas, like dccNet here Delta BC). If people had options, they could be using another ISP that gives 2 shakes about nettiquite and would not be affected.
I'd really like to see shorts from this festival archived on the web. I went to the one this year for the first time and it was just pure chaos, and the cartoons were friggin hillarous!! Anyone got any links where I might be able to find some of them? (I know Beyond Grandpa is on the web at http://www.beyondgrandpa.com/, but my friggin terminal here doesn't have quicktime, and I can't install it either... argh)
What would the RIAA have to do with video and pictures? Just curious because the RIAA stands for:
(R)ecording
(I)ndustry
(A)ssociation of
(A)merica.
Their beef is with Layer-3 and variants because it allows for the easy piracy of music.
No kidding. If you think this is a funny point against microsoft, yer probably wrong.. I mean, look how standard the name has become now.. baically he's won them over psychologically now. What's next?
Heh
Well.. technically the millenium isn't till another year, so save the off topic posting till then eh?
Nuff said.
A company sees its stock dropping, hate mail pours in, and threats of DoS attacks on thier networks are looming over thier heads.
Why not try to weasel yourself out of a situation?
They're just like children. You punish them, but when you're not around, they do the same thing all over again.
The next step? Punish them again. They learn eventually.
From the article:
eToys said it would immediately notify etoy of its decision. Cutler stopped short of saying the lawsuit would be dropped, saying instead the company would not "press" the suit.
"We're moving away from the suit, and that's all I can say at this point," Cutler said.
Don't nessecarily trust your eyes. They did not give word whether or not the suit would be dropped.. and the other article does state that eToys's stock *has* been dropping since the beginning of the month. A simple ploy to give them some good publicity, reduce the amount of hate mail that's been bogging thier system and bring thier stock back up? You decide.
Money talks :|
No kidding from a different world - I actually remember reading a business mag once with this real butt-kissing article regarding a "business's legal rights" regardning the taking down of paradoy sites. Creepy stuff.
The were probably whack-a-mole spammers - using free internet access packages to do thier dirty work. Once that account is killed, they move on to the next one.
Just like the way it causes stock to drop.