is the build routine which is often so much more complicated than writing the code itself.
I *love* writing java when after I've changed a few files and maybe even added some files, all I have to do is
javac *.java
and everything is sorted out for me. It makes me cringe when I think about working in C++ again. automake/autoconf are not the answer.. when I have to go find a FAQ just to remember how to get it to compile after I add a new file, and the scripts they generate are bigger than my project.
Is there anything that makes compiling C/C++ as easy as java?
fyi moderators: parent is a valid question.. I've seen the issue first hand. i've seen questions asked about it on the mailing lists and the answer was something like (I don't remember who from) "why do you need to do that anyway?"
But besides that, using SDL for one of
my meager projects has been nice. I only wish it could come out of the box on some platforms.
The only thing that bugs me about these desktop environments is that they do not handle hidden/dot files very well. there can be a lot of dot files in your home directory but you don't nessisarily always want to see them. Especially with the way that all Gnome apps put their dot-directories in ~ and clutter things up. Some apps either show the dot files or don't and don't give you a choice.
It'd make it a little easier if dot files were displayed as if they were inside their own subdirectory, so you could expand it and see them if you need to, but otherwise they'll just be shown in a psuedo folder called maybe "Hidden files in this directory."
I always refer to software as "ghetto" too. The stuff with no hot keys and broken widgets and no help and no configuration options? People in my class always look at me funny when I say an application is "ghetto" though. Funny how many ghetto programs come with Gnome which is supposed to make stuff easier.
That said, I'm a lot more comfortable in Debian than Windows -- especially when writing code.
Totally OT: Do you know which version has the firewall? I'm using 7.0 but the class is being taught is for 6.1. I was hoping there were no big differences in the networking.
Hopefully it's something I can spot in ipchains or whatever.
Installing Red Hat is much the same. Put the CD in, choose all the defaults, and pow: you're running a web server.
Only administrating it isn't quite as easy as Microsoft Management Console makes it. I just got done with the IIS half of a web server class (an elective) and it was completely easy. Now we are starting on Apache on Red Hat which I hope is more of a challenge.
only I can't figure out how to actually use the backdoor.
you get "c:\inetpub\scripts>" but just typing commands does nothing.
perhaps it's only the illusion of a backdoor, maybe root.exe is just a text file containing "c:\inetpub\scripts>".. though there is always a delay before it pops up.
i guess i can stop messing with peoples poor computers and let somebody else figure it out.
It is installed because the adults in the institutions can't adapt.
When I was in grade school, my entire class learned LOGO by typing commands at a command prompt. This was not a room full of geniuses or computer freaks, it was just an average grade school class. This is the reason why I am a programmer today (along with some help from my NES)
Gnome might not be ready for the teachers and administrators of the schools, but the kids are ready. Where the desktop fails, a terminal will always come through. It will scare some of the adults, but the kids can handle it. They need the typing practice anyway.
Microsoft Office and Internet Explorer are not learning tools.
Yes. I posted something similar on Linux Today, but it's my opinion.
Though you can't exactly say it's suprising that most people don't spend any money on Windows.. especially here on Slashdot.
I paid about 40 bucks for Red Hat 5.something which included a book but that was more than two years ago.
I paid my ISP 4 bucks to burn me a copy of Debian 2.1 (they don't do this anymore, which sucks because it was so useful), and then I bought Debian 2.2 from Linux System Labs for about 10 dollars including shipping. The book for my Red Hat class came with Red Hat but I'm not sure if that was part of the price of the book.
The last version of Windows I used at home was 3.11, and I sure didn't pay for that. I suppose my tuition is paying for all the NT licences at school, but I can't quantify that.
bahaha. Old computers with zero sense of security are fun.
What would the modern day equivalent be? Does Windows come with the scripting engine out of the box these days? Could make for some fun at the computer store display.
Mono is a GNU port of C# and the CLI runtime. What people think this has to do with authentication, I have no idea.
Porting a language means making it available to another platform. With mono, you can develop C# on gnu/linux. Why is this such a terrible and confusing thing to so many slashdotters? Is the availability of another development platform a bad thing? The only thing that would really bug me is if the KDE team decides to write their own separate implementation. The fact that Mono will be tied to Gnome is iffy, but what are you gonna do? Gnome has to make strides of some kind or another to stand out.
When Gnome says they have customers, I believe them.
I don't give a shit if my Mono applications don't even work on Windows. I'd like an alternative to Java that doesn't feel like a toy.
I don't know if dotGNU is needed. I guess if it means I only need one username and password to log into any sites that have accepted their standard, then that's just super.
But wether or not I am going to be able to go to Amazon.com and identify myself with a dotGNU login, I don't know. Frankly, I don't care.
Or: Why don't people just patch their god damned servers?
I think the "virus killing virus" idea could backfire. We could be stuck with a virus running around trying to "cure" machines at an alarming, growing rate and clogging up the pipes. All it would take is a small mistake.
But so far she has only managed to figure out is that censoring internet porn in Utah is not possible.
I don't know where they dug up those teenagers who are rallying against porn -- I saw a news report on TV with these kids and parents saying they want to stop all porn access in UT completely -- but they can rally all day.. my ISP isn't going to start using blocking software because the moment they do, I know they will go out of business.
All the reports about her only say that she's figured out that it is impossible to block porn over [the web|e-mail|].. that's all she's done. I could have told Utah that for a hell of a lot less than her salary.
Paula Houston is nothing but a figurehead to show parents that somebody is supposedly doing something.
Is the thing about giving the disabled access to eBooks 100% true? Is that the sole intent and purpose of the software? If not, you might consider rephrasing that part. But I don't doubt that AeBP allows anybody who can read pdf's access to eBooks.
It isn't nice to troll friends and family.
Find some (a lot of) thick plate steel/iron/whatever scrap.
Make several cut-outs the depth and height of the box, then weld them all together like a big sandwich.
I'm not sure how to get it stuck into the case for good, if you can't weld it in then maybe pour concrete around the edges.
200+ lbs easy. Cheaper than molten lead.
I have this problem where I havn't been able to solve any interactive fiction games. I've put all of my efforts into Jigsaw lately, because it's rather big but the sub-plots are small. Maybe I'll finish it someday... I even gave up on the Kings Quest series.
Of course! And the summary would say "The Man is trying to make him change his name." and everybody gets upset about a company trying to get somebody to change their name because of copyright infringement and people start 100 threads about naming their children "Microsoft" or "Adobe" and then a few people who actually read the article respond saying that it wasn't "his" name they wanted to change, it was his program's name, but they get moderated (-1, Offtopic). And the trolls have a hey-day getting everybody in an uproar with petitions to sign and rallys that nobody attends and so it's slashdot as usual.
You have to remember how few people are in many parts of the Rocky Mountain area compared to the rest of the world. It's just hours and hours of desert.
There's a few spots around the Great Salt Lake though.
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is the build routine which is often so much more complicated than writing the code itself.
I *love* writing java when after I've changed a few files and maybe even added some files, all I have to do is
javac *.java
and everything is sorted out for me. It makes me cringe when I think about working in C++ again. automake/autoconf are not the answer.. when I have to go find a FAQ just to remember how to get it to compile after I add a new file, and the scripts they generate are bigger than my project.
Is there anything that makes compiling C/C++ as easy as java?
OT: I don't get the entries for Java. Why not:
You try to point the gun at your foot, but when you pull the trigger you find you've actually grown a new foot and shot it instead.
But besides that, using SDL for one of my meager projects has been nice. I only wish it could come out of the box on some platforms.
The only thing that bugs me about these desktop environments is that they do not handle hidden/dot files very well. there can be a lot of dot files in your home directory but you don't nessisarily always want to see them. Especially with the way that all Gnome apps put their dot-directories in ~ and clutter things up. Some apps either show the dot files or don't and don't give you a choice.
It'd make it a little easier if dot files were displayed as if they were inside their own subdirectory, so you could expand it and see them if you need to, but otherwise they'll just be shown in a psuedo folder called maybe "Hidden files in this directory."
I always refer to software as "ghetto" too. The stuff with no hot keys and broken widgets and no help and no configuration options? People in my class always look at me funny when I say an application is "ghetto" though. Funny how many ghetto programs come with Gnome which is supposed to make stuff easier.
That said, I'm a lot more comfortable in Debian than Windows -- especially when writing code.
Totally OT: Do you know which version has the firewall? I'm using 7.0 but the class is being taught is for 6.1. I was hoping there were no big differences in the networking.
Hopefully it's something I can spot in ipchains or whatever.
Installing Red Hat is much the same. Put the CD in, choose all the defaults, and pow: you're running a web server.
Only administrating it isn't quite as easy as Microsoft Management Console makes it. I just got done with the IIS half of a web server class (an elective) and it was completely easy. Now we are starting on Apache on Red Hat which I hope is more of a challenge.
only I can't figure out how to actually use the backdoor.
you get "c:\inetpub\scripts>" but just typing commands does nothing.
perhaps it's only the illusion of a backdoor, maybe root.exe is just a text file containing "c:\inetpub\scripts>".. though there is always a delay before it pops up.
i guess i can stop messing with peoples poor computers and let somebody else figure it out.
It is installed because the adults in the institutions can't adapt.
When I was in grade school, my entire class learned LOGO by typing commands at a command prompt. This was not a room full of geniuses or computer freaks, it was just an average grade school class. This is the reason why I am a programmer today (along with some help from my NES)
Gnome might not be ready for the teachers and administrators of the schools, but the kids are ready. Where the desktop fails, a terminal will always come through. It will scare some of the adults, but the kids can handle it. They need the typing practice anyway.
Microsoft Office and Internet Explorer are not learning tools.
Yes. I posted something similar on Linux Today, but it's my opinion.
Though you can't exactly say it's suprising that most people don't spend any money on Windows.. especially here on Slashdot.
I paid about 40 bucks for Red Hat 5.something which included a book but that was more than two years ago.
I paid my ISP 4 bucks to burn me a copy of Debian 2.1 (they don't do this anymore, which sucks because it was so useful), and then I bought Debian 2.2 from Linux System Labs for about 10 dollars including shipping. The book for my Red Hat class came with Red Hat but I'm not sure if that was part of the price of the book.
The last version of Windows I used at home was 3.11, and I sure didn't pay for that. I suppose my tuition is paying for all the NT licences at school, but I can't quantify that.
I'm not sure about that.
Otherwise, all that chip music would have destroyed my sound card, and my NES would have destroyed my television.
Don't want anybody trying to sell things to the students?
I guess it would get in the way of Channel One.
bahaha. Old computers with zero sense of security are fun.
What would the modern day equivalent be? Does Windows come with the scripting engine out of the box these days? Could make for some fun at the computer store display.
Mono is a GNU port of C# and the CLI runtime. What people think this has to do with authentication, I have no idea.
Porting a language means making it available to another platform. With mono, you can develop C# on gnu/linux. Why is this such a terrible and confusing thing to so many slashdotters? Is the availability of another development platform a bad thing? The only thing that would really bug me is if the KDE team decides to write their own separate implementation. The fact that Mono will be tied to Gnome is iffy, but what are you gonna do? Gnome has to make strides of some kind or another to stand out.
When Gnome says they have customers, I believe them.
I don't give a shit if my Mono applications don't even work on Windows. I'd like an alternative to Java that doesn't feel like a toy.
I don't know if dotGNU is needed. I guess if it means I only need one username and password to log into any sites that have accepted their standard, then that's just super.
But wether or not I am going to be able to go to Amazon.com and identify myself with a dotGNU login, I don't know. Frankly, I don't care.
Mono interests me, dotGNU doesn't.
Or: Why don't people just patch their god damned servers?
I think the "virus killing virus" idea could backfire. We could be stuck with a virus running around trying to "cure" machines at an alarming, growing rate and clogging up the pipes. All it would take is a small mistake.
I don't know where they dug up those teenagers who are rallying against porn -- I saw a news report on TV with these kids and parents saying they want to stop all porn access in UT completely -- but they can rally all day.. my ISP isn't going to start using blocking software because the moment they do, I know they will go out of business.
All the reports about her only say that she's figured out that it is impossible to block porn over [the web|e-mail|].. that's all she's done. I could have told Utah that for a hell of a lot less than her salary.
Paula Houston is nothing but a figurehead to show parents that somebody is supposedly doing something.
Is the thing about giving the disabled access to eBooks 100% true? Is that the sole intent and purpose of the software? If not, you might consider rephrasing that part. But I don't doubt that AeBP allows anybody who can read pdf's access to eBooks.
It isn't nice to troll friends and family.
Find some (a lot of) thick plate steel/iron/whatever scrap.
Make several cut-outs the depth and height of the box, then weld them all together like a big sandwich.
I'm not sure how to get it stuck into the case for good, if you can't weld it in then maybe pour concrete around the edges.
200+ lbs easy. Cheaper than molten lead.
That is, if you can get anywhere with them.
I have this problem where I havn't been able to solve any interactive fiction games. I've put all of my efforts into Jigsaw lately, because it's rather big but the sub-plots are small. Maybe I'll finish it someday... I even gave up on the Kings Quest series.
They can't do anything *too* malicious without calling enough attention to it that the spreading slows down.
There has to be a balance.
Sure, Melissa could have wreaked much much much more havoc than it did and got away with it, but that's hindsight for you.
Nowadays people are slightly more clueful and I don't think a HD reformatting worm would propegate very far.
Is that I've never recieved one.
:(
Nobody has me in their contact list
Because he believes that conventions in the US are putting people at risk, and that having more programmers go to jail isn't going to help the cause.
Perhaps he thinks there is a better way to get information about the issue out there.
Of course! And the summary would say "The Man is trying to make him change his name." and everybody gets upset about a company trying to get somebody to change their name because of copyright infringement and people start 100 threads about naming their children "Microsoft" or "Adobe" and then a few people who actually read the article respond saying that it wasn't "his" name they wanted to change, it was his program's name, but they get moderated (-1, Offtopic). And the trolls have a hey-day getting everybody in an uproar with petitions to sign and rallys that nobody attends and so it's slashdot as usual.
The results show more than 60% Germany for both nationality and country.
Being on a German site is much more likely to skew the results, and it has so far.
You have to remember how few people are in many parts of the Rocky Mountain area compared to the rest of the world. It's just hours and hours of desert.
There's a few spots around the Great Salt Lake though.