> iPod market will never be replaced by the phone market.
I disagree: phone manufacturers have been able to embed a camera (low quality ok), but do you really think that they won't be able to embed instead mini-hard drives?
As for the quality, which quality, the interface? the sound quality? Both should be ok (with headphone for the sound of course).
The only problem I can foresee is the battery: people don't like to have the battery totally discharged on phones as it means they can not be joined anymore: but this can be solved with a 'reserve' dedicated to the phone functionality.
>Now you have to have 2 drivers for every 1 video card... one for 2-d and one for 3-d.
Well at least this allow bug reports to the kernel!
As recent videocard have all closed-source drivers for 3D, if X becomes dependent of OpenGL maybe this will be difficult to have an 'untainted' kernel to report bug, no?
But for me, agnosticism and 'Occam's razor' are a bit incompatible as it is possible to interpret to the 'Occam razor' as to implies atheism: God(s) are complex concept which doesn't solve anything (ok so they created the universe, who created the gods?), so no gods --> atheism.
I agree that multithreading is hard, but it depends also of the problem: let's suppose you have two totally independant task to complete, firing two thread to do it won't be complicated whereas if you have two closely related task a synchronisation nightmare is in order..
I'm not convinced that X composition will be as good as the multithreading of BeOS, it may help a little but if your application is busy doing something complex the UI will not be responsive even if the window won't be "rubbed out".
Now how complicated it is to put in separate thread the UI handling and the real work, only BeOS programmers can tell..
I grant you that there are more honest people than dishonest, but is-it really enough to weed out errors (introduced volontarily or not)?
If people don't consider the wiki as authorative sources and make the effort to check and correct whatever mistake they may find, the quality will be good, now if people don't check what they found and consider it true, errors could stay a looonnng time..
Given the widespread beliefs in astrology, telepathy, UFO (and I would add religions myself).. I'm not so sure that 'critical thinking' is very widespread!
Changing of Linux applications to become multithreaded is obviously a *huge* task (3 and 4 are also complicated), but I wonder why the point 2 hasn't been solved yet?
Has someone tried to replicate BeOS scheduler on Linux? Is BeOS's scheduler described somewhere?
Personnaly it is 3) that bother me the most in many applications: Mozilla also freeze way too often when it opens a new page, which of course reduce the "user's experiment" of having several tabs or window at the same time (BeOS was great in this regards: very responsive)..
Changing applications to use more multithreading to improve "user's experiment" is unfortunately a very big job, which won't happen soon, but I hope that with the multi-core CPU coming soon, perhaps developpers will be more receptive for using more threads in their application..
As for 1) if the menu you're talking about contains only icons, I don't think that there can be much things to do: - if you wait until all the icons are retrieved before displaying the menu, it feels slow. - if you display an empty menu, then it feels slow too. - the only solution would be to preload in memory the menu, but this would lead to too much memory usage IMHO.
Now if the menu contains mixed entries: icons and text, then there is a good solution which is sometimes used: display the menus with the text and a generic icon on each entry and then replace as retrieved the generic icons with the correct one. Of course the menu should be fully functionnal even if some icons are not retrieved yet..
Well, let's not be too proud here (I'm French): France has still not dismantled any nuclear power plant and AFAIK the long term storage of nuclear left-off has not been decided yet..
So while I think that the nuclear program may be a success but we won't really know until a nuclear power plant has been fully dismantled!
I think that all Mozilla developpers should thank Microsoft: thanks to the all-in-one concept in Mozilla with one application you can have a web browser, an email client, IRC client.
Otherwise, users would go mad stopping and starting applications..
I wonder if this is true or if Windows think that Mozilla web browser and email client count for two application?
> I think that in the next few years there is a real opportunity for somebody to take over the PC operating system market.
You fail to provide any "proof" of this.. Even if Longhorn was never released or a flop (doubtfull: Microsoft monopoly ensure more or less that the new version is installed in all the new PCs), why do you think people need something better than XP??
I don't think XP is perfect, just that it is "good enough" for the majority of people and any new OS would suffer from the lack of drivers or the lack of application, hell even Linux suffer from lack of drivers: it is much better to select the HW before buying to be sure that the compatibility is good, otherwise there can be surprise..
Why do you call these problems "fully interacting"?
Usually a location will only interacts with its neighbours, so you can subdivide the mesh into chunks which runs on different nodes, of course the communications between nodes are still quite high for "frontier" communication, but you can't really say that it is "fully interacting"..
It could be "fully interacting" if your timesteps is bigger than the propagation time of course, but usually this is not the case..
> Look at Apple. They are interested in being the best, not in getting the biggest share of the market.
Uh? That's not true, they just failed to get the 'biggest share'..
And as for "being Microsoft", helping 95% of users for migrating to a new UI is quite sensible.
Of course, if there is a logic behind things it should not be broken to be like windows, but I'm thinking as thinks quite arbitrary like some keyboard shortcuts for exemple: 'Win+D' should by default iconify all the windows in KDE like in Windows, why not?
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What I find funny is that you're atheist but you think that the "mass" should become religious to "fix" the society.. A bit egocentric maybe?
And how the society is going to fix itself by adding religion when apparently it isn't capable to fix the schools?
And a religious society with broken school and parent/child relations is still a broken society.
> Religion also adds meaning to life, and when this meaning goes away, fundamentalism comes to fill the need.
A false assertion, while France has become mostly a-religious, a very,very tiny percentage has become fundamentalist.. So while this *may* happen, this is not at all automatic.
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>Though I think God is God, whether you view him/her/it as personal or not.
That's a view I don't share: do not forget that some people beleive in several Gods! And there are many difference between a "non-personnal God" and a God: for example it means no religion, it is a very different view..
> I think our culture (Americans at least) do, being that we're in sever need of some form of moral influence, or at least our children are.
Why do you equal "need of moral" with "need of moral spirituality"? The first is not linked with religion, the second is.
> school is not the proper institution for it.
Home is but school should complement it, school is not only for teaching skills, you know..
>How is my last comment trolling?
Because the view of having any governement being "supported by God" is quite funny for me: are the goverment of other people which disagree with your government supported by the Devil?:-)
> some form of spirituality is needed on behalf of the masses, since there is no secular moral education in the US (as of yet)
Well, in France religion is not very popular currently since a long time now (the 70s, I'd say), but apparently it has not created problems, so IMHO the USA could become also areligious in a similar way, nothing prevents it..
What has created problems in France and elsewhere are: poverty, lack of education, lack of parent/child relationship, lack of proper education (too strict is not good, too lax is not good either) so to fix the problems, the need is to fix the root of the problems not to add "religious moral" as a band-aid..
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> Einstien was a christian, hence the "god does not play dice" comment.
No, I've read a few books on Einstein, he beleived in a "non-personnal" God: a God of Nature, if you wish. Which is very different from being Christian, I'd call this "deism" myself.
> Actually most intelligent men of the past were religious.
Well, most men were religious in the past, and they really had not too much choice.
> And most scientists now are christian.
Well on average most people are christian now, I think so..
I don't think that such a "global" average is very interesting though: in France, many people are not religious anymore and on average scientists are less religious than less-educated people, can you extrapolate this to all the country? No..
> I just think that some form of moral spirituality is needed. Well, I don't feel this need myself and many do not either, so while you're free of course to need some form of moral spirituality, I don't see why other should follow and have the same needs as yours.
> great government (like the US, and its GOD GIVEN rights) Up until now, you're post was reasonable but here I'd say you're trolling, bah.
While I agree with nearly all your comment, I disagree with this one: > I can't think of anything in the Java Class library that is not in the Python Standard Library.
Well Swing and AWT belongs to the Java "standard" class, IMHO both are worthless: -AWT is ugly -Swing was (is still?) buggy as hell: I tried programming in Java a long time ago and Sun took *years* to correct serious bugs.
But still Python standard library doesn't have the equivalent of Swing as far as I know.. wxWindows doesn't belong to Python standard library.
Notice, that I'm not saying that I personnaly hate Americans or view them as arrogant, I'm just trying to explain why some French don't like Americans, how that makes me ignorant?
From French viewpoint the invasion of Irak was deemed as arrogant or stupid: when you distroy a dictator, the problem is not killing the dictator, the problem is what happens next: the situation could easily become a civil war with even Turquie's intervention if the Kurdes start an independ country inside Irak..
The US army apparently didn't even anticipate the pillaging, after the war or didn't care to prevent it, somehow this doesn't make people here very optimistic for the future of Irak, let's hope that we're wrong.. And if memory serves a majority of Americans were in favor of this war, so this is not only the problem of the president..
Well as a French, I agree that some people are jealous of the fact that some americans are very rich, but French don't hate Americans because of their fatness, make fun yes (and even not too loud because we have also the problem..), hate no.
Anyway, the "hate" is more linked to Americans being perceived as being arrogant: "American's imperialism" is the major reason. The recent war with Irak is a good example of this domination in action: America wants to go to war with Irak, show unconvincing proof to NATA and when told that these proof are not convincing enough, goes to war alone.. That is what French people hate about Americans.
Well, it also depends on "society values": here in France half-naked women are expected in almost every magazines, even those targetted to women: for example "Elle magazine" has no problem at all with women's nudity..
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>And the "ORIGINAL goal" of the Gnu project was actually achieved,
That's why the Hurd has been killed, right?
Umm, except it still alive (well more or less)!
> iPod market will never be replaced by the phone market.
I disagree: phone manufacturers have been able to embed a camera (low quality ok), but do you really think that they won't be able to embed instead mini-hard drives?
As for the quality, which quality, the interface? the sound quality? Both should be ok (with headphone for the sound of course).
The only problem I can foresee is the battery: people don't like to have the battery totally discharged on phones as it means they can not be joined anymore: but this can be solved with a 'reserve' dedicated to the phone functionality.
>Now you have to have 2 drivers for every 1 video card... one for 2-d and one for 3-d.
Well at least this allow bug reports to the kernel!
As recent videocard have all closed-source drivers for 3D, if X becomes dependent of OpenGL maybe this will be difficult to have an 'untainted' kernel to report bug, no?
Unfortunately CD-R are not especially reliable either in my experience, I hear that USB flash is quite reliable, which is a welcome change!
OK, I understand.
But for me, agnosticism and 'Occam's razor' are a bit incompatible as it is possible to interpret to the 'Occam razor' as to implies atheism: God(s) are complex concept which doesn't solve anything (ok so they created the universe, who created the gods?), so no gods --> atheism.
> The scientific view of religion is not atheism. The scientific view is agnosticism and simplicity.
I more or less agree for the agnosticism part, but what do you mean by the 'simplicity' part?
I agree that multithreading is hard, but it depends also of the problem: let's suppose you have two totally independant task to complete, firing two thread to do it won't be complicated whereas if you have two closely related task a synchronisation nightmare is in order..
I'm not convinced that X composition will be as good as the multithreading of BeOS, it may help a little but if your application is busy doing something complex the UI will not be responsive even if the window won't be "rubbed out".
Now how complicated it is to put in separate thread the UI handling and the real work, only BeOS programmers can tell..
I grant you that there are more honest people than dishonest, but is-it really enough to weed out errors (introduced volontarily or not)?
If people don't consider the wiki as authorative sources and make the effort to check and correct whatever mistake they may find, the quality will be good, now if people don't check what they found and consider it true, errors could stay a looonnng time..
Given the widespread beliefs in astrology, telepathy, UFO (and I would add religions myself)..
I'm not so sure that 'critical thinking' is very widespread!
Changing of Linux applications to become multithreaded is obviously a *huge* task (3 and 4 are also complicated), but I wonder why the point 2 hasn't been solved yet?
Has someone tried to replicate BeOS scheduler on Linux? Is BeOS's scheduler described somewhere?
Personnaly it is 3) that bother me the most in many applications: Mozilla also freeze way too often when it opens a new page, which of course reduce the "user's experiment" of having several tabs or window at the same time (BeOS was great in this regards: very responsive)..
Changing applications to use more multithreading to improve "user's experiment" is unfortunately a very big job, which won't happen soon, but I hope that with the multi-core CPU coming soon, perhaps developpers will be more receptive for using more threads in their application..
As for 1) if the menu you're talking about contains only icons, I don't think that there can be much things to do:
- if you wait until all the icons are retrieved before displaying the menu, it feels slow.
- if you display an empty menu, then it feels slow too.
- the only solution would be to preload in memory the menu, but this would lead to too much memory usage IMHO.
Now if the menu contains mixed entries: icons and text, then there is a good solution which is sometimes used: display the menus with the text and a generic icon on each entry and then replace as retrieved the generic icons with the correct one.
Of course the menu should be fully functionnal even if some icons are not retrieved yet..
Well, let's not be too proud here (I'm French): France has still not dismantled any nuclear power plant and AFAIK the long term storage of nuclear left-off has not been decided yet..
So while I think that the nuclear program may be a success but we won't really know until a nuclear power plant has been fully dismantled!
You're probably right, if this is the case, I wonder if this can be considered as an abuse of monopoly?
Not that Microsoft particulary cases about avoiding 'monopoly abuses'..
I think that all Mozilla developpers should thank Microsoft: thanks to the all-in-one concept in Mozilla with one application you can have a web browser, an email client, IRC client.
Otherwise, users would go mad stopping and starting applications..
I wonder if this is true or if Windows think that Mozilla web browser and email client count for two application?
> I think that in the next few years there is a real opportunity for somebody to take over the PC operating system market.
You fail to provide any "proof" of this..
Even if Longhorn was never released or a flop (doubtfull: Microsoft monopoly ensure more or less that the new version is installed in all the new PCs), why do you think people need something better than XP??
I don't think XP is perfect, just that it is "good enough" for the majority of people and any new OS would suffer from the lack of drivers or the lack of application, hell even Linux suffer from lack of drivers: it is much better to select the HW before buying to be sure that the compatibility is good, otherwise there can be surprise..
Why do you call these problems "fully interacting"?
Usually a location will only interacts with its neighbours, so you can subdivide the mesh into chunks which runs on different nodes, of course the communications between nodes are still quite high for "frontier" communication, but you can't really say that it is "fully interacting"..
It could be "fully interacting" if your timesteps is bigger than the propagation time of course, but usually this is not the case..
Bah, going on the moon has also a huge symbolic value, are humans able to go on the moon now?
No, not any more: we'd need years of effort and huge spending to be able to go back again on the moon, and I see few people complaining about this.
So why should it matters whether there is a permanent presence of people in the space or not?
> Look at Apple. They are interested in being the best, not in getting the biggest share of the market.
Uh? That's not true, they just failed to get the 'biggest share'..
And as for "being Microsoft", helping 95% of users for migrating to a new UI is quite sensible.
Of course, if there is a logic behind things it should not be broken to be like windows, but I'm thinking as thinks quite arbitrary like some keyboard shortcuts for exemple: 'Win+D' should by default iconify all the windows in KDE like in Windows, why not?
What I find funny is that you're atheist but you think that the "mass" should become religious to "fix" the society.. A bit egocentric maybe?
And how the society is going to fix itself by adding religion when apparently it isn't capable to fix the schools?
And a religious society with broken school and parent/child relations is still a broken society.
> Religion also adds meaning to life, and when this meaning goes away, fundamentalism comes to fill the need.
A false assertion, while France has become mostly a-religious, a very,very tiny percentage has become fundamentalist..
So while this *may* happen, this is not at all automatic.
>Though I think God is God, whether you view him/her/it as personal or not.
:-)
That's a view I don't share: do not forget that some people beleive in several Gods!
And there are many difference between a "non-personnal God" and a God: for example it means no religion, it is a very different view..
> I think our culture (Americans at least) do, being that we're in sever need of some form of moral influence, or at least our children are.
Why do you equal "need of moral" with "need of moral spirituality"? The first is not linked with religion, the second is.
> school is not the proper institution for it.
Home is but school should complement it, school is not only for teaching skills, you know..
>How is my last comment trolling?
Because the view of having any governement being "supported by God" is quite funny for me: are the goverment of other people which disagree with your government supported by the Devil?
> some form of spirituality is needed on behalf of the masses, since there is no secular moral education in the US (as of yet)
Well, in France religion is not very popular currently since a long time now (the 70s, I'd say), but apparently it has not created problems, so IMHO the USA could become also areligious in a similar way, nothing prevents it..
What has created problems in France and elsewhere are: poverty, lack of education, lack of parent/child relationship, lack of proper education (too strict is not good, too lax is not good either) so to fix the problems, the need is to fix the root of the problems not to add "religious moral" as a band-aid..
> Einstien was a christian, hence the "god does not play dice" comment.
No, I've read a few books on Einstein, he beleived in a "non-personnal" God: a God of Nature, if you wish.
Which is very different from being Christian, I'd call this "deism" myself.
> Actually most intelligent men of the past were religious.
Well, most men were religious in the past, and they really had not too much choice.
> And most scientists now are christian.
Well on average most people are christian now, I think so..
I don't think that such a "global" average is very interesting though: in France, many people are not religious anymore and on average scientists are less religious than less-educated people, can you extrapolate this to all the country? No..
> I just think that some form of moral spirituality is needed.
Well, I don't feel this need myself and many do not either, so while you're free of course to need some form of moral spirituality, I don't see why other should follow and have the same needs as yours.
> great government (like the US, and its GOD GIVEN rights)
Up until now, you're post was reasonable but here I'd say you're trolling, bah.
While I agree with nearly all your comment, I disagree with this one:
> I can't think of anything in the Java Class library that is not in the Python Standard Library.
Well Swing and AWT belongs to the Java "standard" class, IMHO both are worthless:
-AWT is ugly
-Swing was (is still?) buggy as hell: I tried programming in Java a long time ago and Sun took *years* to correct serious bugs.
But still Python standard library doesn't have the equivalent of Swing as far as I know.. wxWindows doesn't belong to Python standard library.
Which part of the comment exactly?
Notice, that I'm not saying that I personnaly hate Americans or view them as arrogant, I'm just trying to explain why some French don't like Americans, how that makes me ignorant?
From French viewpoint the invasion of Irak was deemed as arrogant or stupid: when you distroy a dictator, the problem is not killing the dictator, the problem is what happens next: the situation could easily become a civil war with even Turquie's intervention if the Kurdes start an independ country inside Irak..
The US army apparently didn't even anticipate the pillaging, after the war or didn't care to prevent it, somehow this doesn't make people here very optimistic for the future of Irak, let's hope that we're wrong..
And if memory serves a majority of Americans were in favor of this war, so this is not only the problem of the president..
Well as a French, I agree that some people are jealous of the fact that some americans are very rich, but French don't hate Americans because of their fatness, make fun yes (and even not too loud because we have also the problem..), hate no.
Anyway, the "hate" is more linked to Americans being perceived as being arrogant: "American's imperialism" is the major reason.
The recent war with Irak is a good example of this domination in action: America wants to go to war with Irak, show unconvincing proof to NATA and when told that these proof are not convincing enough, goes to war alone..
That is what French people hate about Americans.
Well you can do a human recount as the ballot are also human readable.
But I agree that devils are in the details, and that badly printed ballot are a problem.
Well, it also depends on "society values": here in France half-naked women are expected in almost every magazines, even those targetted to women: for example "Elle magazine" has no problem at all with women's nudity..