> It's pretty much a stretch to call Android Linux
Android is as much Linux as Red Hat or Ubuntu, they all use the same Linux (which is the kernel). Your confusion is because you don't understand that Linux operating systems destined for the desktop are not just 'Linux' (the kernel) but also contain hundreds of other pieces of software and should be refereed to by their brand name.
I'm going to go run all my linux apps on my Android tablet. Afdter all It is exactly Linux. Who knew? Thank you for clearing up my confusion.
It's all 1's and 0's, so all operating systems are the same.
because you would not want to tax the ultra mega rich people that actually have enough money to help feed & house the disabled, poor & homeless, they need to buy that new yacht, jet and new limo every year
Mistake number one is calling it a tax, Taxes are evil and bad. If you call it a users fee, or a toll, people will line right up.
As I've posted a number of times already, some people even had the choice between an installed LO Writer and Word. And they chose LO because the interface was more constant (i.e., commands were easier to find).
Now LO is offering a ribbon for people to use and learn why it is not better.
That last brings up another point for me. One of the odd side duties at work I ended up with was as computer fix-all for the suits. Microsoft Office allows customization of the interface. This isn't necessarily bad, but this customization came along with documents. So here we were, having a meeting, and some suit has a problem with his or her PowerPoint. So its up to me to get it running right.
All this customization meant that if I didn't have a menu fallback, I had to figure out how they had their stuff configured, which made getting things running right always took longer.
I'm assuming you mean desktop Linux, because Microsoft Office is available for Android and is free on that platform.
What do you think I meant?
Android has what, 99.9% of the Linux market?
Well now! It also has 100 percent of the Android market! It's pretty much a stretch to call Android Linux, and toys are not included, except for the masochistic.
Amazing the lengths some folks will go to just to make an argument. Someone is trying to make me talk about those cute little toys. But they're still toys and not production devices other than for trying to prove people wrong. Dunno if anyone is going to write a War and Peace type novel on their smartphone.
BTW, my Samsung Galaxy Tab sits with a copy of Open Office on it. Mainly as a way to quickly look at something, because I'd never dream of creating work on it. Want some fun? Create a spreadsheet with calculations on a tablet.
But your LO document doesn't show the same as your co-worker's MSOffice.
Right. That's my point. MSO is the outlier, the program that just isn't compatible with anyone else, and often not with itself. My answer was to the question of why the users shouldn't just pick and choose their Office suites.
Unless you are going to dictate the platform as Windows only, and dictate MSO down to the version level, and dictate the printer used, you're going to be spending some time fixing documents that shouldn't need fixed.
And that's a pretty good reason to use software available on multiple platforms. I'm not telling someone they can't use Linux at all because Microsoft doesn't have a solution at all, or that they shouldn't use a Mac because they will then waste time re-formatting other people's work.
We've known for a long time, at least in my recollection since the '70s, that daylight savings time didn't do much other than cause problems. Since our Nation really isn't based on agricultural production anymore maybe it's time we just give it up. I'm sure the farmers, chickens and local schools can get it sorted out okay.
It's another case of Government over-reach. No one tells me what to do. We have the right to make it whatever time we want it to be.
I use the metric minute, hours and days, but in every other letter of the greek alphabet.
Actually, I find LO to be easier to use than MS Office (365 or otherwise). Office has buried many things in places where you have to use the Help (which only works when online) to find it. LO still has them on menus that can be accessed the way they always were, if you can't find it on the ribbon/taskbar. LO does take up space on the local disk, but that's a Good Thing if you're using it on a tablet or laptop where the internet connection isn't Always On.
After having to obtain a fair knowledge of both ribbon and menu during the days of transition when both the menu and ribbons were in use. The problem with the Ribbon is that unless you use it for hours a day, the menu is faster, because you can find the items much more easily.
Usually the people who complain that software B is hard to use have been using software A for 10 years and B is just different enough to throw them off constantly.
Exactly. I made the transition from Microsoft's suite to AO and LO almost seamlessly. I had to look up some things in their spreadsheet, but that might have taken up 15 minutes. since then. On the other hand, fixing documents from Windows to OSX was a regular part of operation, I probably spent months overall.
Whenever I read stories like this, ie. Windows vs. Linux vs. OSX vs. it seems to always be from the perspective of the implementers or those looking to make a point about whether it can be done. Why not offer choice?
If you use Microsoft office, you put a straitjacket on your system. Not compatible with OSX version of Office, no software at all for Linux.
Choice is nice, but why choose the most limiting OS and Office Suite?
I run LO, and my Mac shows the same as my Windows shows the same as my Linux shows the same.
Libre/OpenOffce perhaps, GIMP for sure, and KiCAD a little... but they aren't that bad. I have used very expensive software that was no better... OrCAD for instance (whatever it is called now, Xilinx's toolcina etc..Visual Studio crashes on a whim...
Why is Office 365 so much easier to use than Libre? This is surprising to me. Gimp just doesn't have the tools I need, but Microsoftt Office is at the bottom of my Office suite list.
Uh huh... right.. and guess which party is the one who created this bill? Whatever nonsense your spouting, so far as far as actions go, only one party has been doing that. So please piss off with your both sides bullshit.
Anyone who uses the "Everyone is bad, and they al agree" excuse is promoting that they are perfectly accepting of the bad behavior.
It takes a secial kind of stupid to say that a bill introduced by one party, supported unanimously and opposed by every member of the other party means tat both parties are in agreement.
Then again, America's mistaken idea that the thoughts of the stupid are equal to the thoughts of the intelligent are exactly why we have fucked ourselves severely. AC is the epitome of the stupid side.
Two women who were his employees. Note that when that sort of thing happened in industry, it was a slam-dunk for a sexual harassment suit. But people REALLY like Bill. Enough that they gave him a pass on something that would've gotten any CEO in the country in trouble....
You must have missed the consensual part. If Lewinsky was harassed or raped by Mr Clinton, or otherwise forced to engage in sexual activity. Especially since there were at least 9 times this happened, it is pretty hard to argue that it wasn't consensual.
Even in the liberal hotbed where I last worked, if a female employee enters into a consensual romantic relationship with her supervisor, or vice versa, the subordinate is transferred to a different department, outside of the chain of command. No one is fired, no one goes to jail.
While I'm no Democrat, I find some folks do save their moral outrage for the party they consider the enemy. Both sides have enough human activity to make the prudes do their tsk tsk thing.
People who are carve out a high moral ground because President Clinton cot a consensual blowjob are remarkably silent on another occupant of the White House who has done some same sex porn.
I don't particularly care, but will be fascinated to hear your defense of that.
The committee is not the entire House. If you think all GOP are going to support it you're insane. If you think all Dems will oppose it, let's wait till the bribes get handed out.
So what you're saying is there is still time to make this another example of the Democrat's utter moral bankruptcy? Thank Gawd, I was getting worried there. I'll get back to you after I talk to Kellyanne. She'll have the straight scoop - probably something Obama or FDR did.
The bill, HR 1313, was approved by a House committee on Wednesday, with all 22 Republicans supporting it and all 17 Democrats opposed.
But remember, folks: both sides are bad and all truly intelligent people choose not to vote.
Don't worry, the Democrats want to control your every move, but the freedom loving Republicans will make certain y this will make...... Hey! That brown person over there is a-tryin' to take yer guns away - Get 'im And Besides, abortion, and the death tax.
How exactly do these wifi cameras get exposed to public hacking? Are these cameras that you configure to use your own wifi network, and that automatically makes them visible outside your network?
I have two wifi baby monitors in my home, but they both generate their own wifi signal are not on my home network. I am comfortable with the risk that someone could theoretically walk up to my house, hack the (random) factory password, and watch the baby in its crib. Is there some magic I don't know about that connects them to the internet?
https://krebsonsecurity.com/20...
If your cams never attach to the internet, it's cool, but most cameras these days are IP, and they are the STD's of the web.
If you don't want somebody knowing what you bought, you absolutely have to use cash.
That's gone by the wayside. For some reason I had to buy something around a hundred dollars or so with cash. I had to show them ID and give a phone number.
I suspect a lot of Slashdotters are going to have to sell everything, and move to a compound in remote Idaho, only barter, tear up their SS card, and go back to subsistence living.
I wonder if the 1840's were really that much better than today.
Where I work at we have both password rules AND mandatory password change every month... MONTH! Who the hell comes up with these stupid arbitrary ideas about security?
Who? Probably someone who doesn't use a computer.
Arrgh, what a system. Now you probably have people writing down their passwords, and storing them in their wallet or purse, or worse, the traditional "under the keyboard". Then the IT department is probably spending a lot of time resetting passwords when the people who do it correctly forget their password. Over and over
It's just that these cameras, like the ovwewhelming majority of the Internet of Things, is 100 percent insecure. Real hackers probably are insulted by the insinuation that you actually have to hack anything.
And y'all better get used to it folks. THe manufacturers are pushing this, and the consumers are buying this, and it's not going away.
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> It's pretty much a stretch to call Android Linux
Android is as much Linux as Red Hat or Ubuntu, they all use the same Linux (which is the kernel). Your confusion is because you don't understand that Linux operating systems destined for the desktop are not just 'Linux' (the kernel) but also contain hundreds of other pieces of software and should be refereed to by their brand name.
I'm going to go run all my linux apps on my Android tablet. Afdter all It is exactly Linux. Who knew? Thank you for clearing up my confusion.
It's all 1's and 0's, so all operating systems are the same.
Had to chuckle - I'd probably type in "tear my air out" some days........
because you would not want to tax the ultra mega rich people that actually have enough money to help feed & house the disabled, poor & homeless, they need to buy that new yacht, jet and new limo every year
Mistake number one is calling it a tax, Taxes are evil and bad. If you call it a users fee, or a toll, people will line right up.
cause they are m$ shills. Most people use google docs. I use libreoffice.
Yeah you're right. I kinda asked the question already knowing what the answer was. 8^)
As I've posted a number of times already, some people even had the choice between an installed LO Writer and Word. And they chose LO because the interface was more constant (i.e., commands were easier to find).
Now LO is offering a ribbon for people to use and learn why it is not better.
That last brings up another point for me. One of the odd side duties at work I ended up with was as computer fix-all for the suits. Microsoft Office allows customization of the interface. This isn't necessarily bad, but this customization came along with documents. So here we were, having a meeting, and some suit has a problem with his or her PowerPoint. So its up to me to get it running right.
All this customization meant that if I didn't have a menu fallback, I had to figure out how they had their stuff configured, which made getting things running right always took longer.
"no software at all for Linux."
I'm assuming you mean desktop Linux, because Microsoft Office is available for Android and is free on that platform.
What do you think I meant?
Android has what, 99.9% of the Linux market?
Well now! It also has 100 percent of the Android market! It's pretty much a stretch to call Android Linux, and toys are not included, except for the masochistic.
Amazing the lengths some folks will go to just to make an argument. Someone is trying to make me talk about those cute little toys. But they're still toys and not production devices other than for trying to prove people wrong. Dunno if anyone is going to write a War and Peace type novel on their smartphone.
BTW, my Samsung Galaxy Tab sits with a copy of Open Office on it. Mainly as a way to quickly look at something, because I'd never dream of creating work on it. Want some fun? Create a spreadsheet with calculations on a tablet.
But your LO document doesn't show the same as your co-worker's MSOffice.
Right. That's my point. MSO is the outlier, the program that just isn't compatible with anyone else, and often not with itself. My answer was to the question of why the users shouldn't just pick and choose their Office suites.
Unless you are going to dictate the platform as Windows only, and dictate MSO down to the version level, and dictate the printer used, you're going to be spending some time fixing documents that shouldn't need fixed.
And that's a pretty good reason to use software available on multiple platforms. I'm not telling someone they can't use Linux at all because Microsoft doesn't have a solution at all, or that they shouldn't use a Mac because they will then waste time re-formatting other people's work.
We've known for a long time, at least in my recollection since the '70s, that daylight savings time didn't do much other than cause problems. Since our Nation really isn't based on agricultural production anymore maybe it's time we just give it up. I'm sure the farmers, chickens and local schools can get it sorted out okay.
It's another case of Government over-reach. No one tells me what to do. We have the right to make it whatever time we want it to be.
I use the metric minute, hours and days, but in every other letter of the greek alphabet.
Actually, I find LO to be easier to use than MS Office (365 or otherwise). Office has buried many things in places where you have to use the Help (which only works when online) to find it. LO still has them on menus that can be accessed the way they always were, if you can't find it on the ribbon/taskbar. LO does take up space on the local disk, but that's a Good Thing if you're using it on a tablet or laptop where the internet connection isn't Always On.
After having to obtain a fair knowledge of both ribbon and menu during the days of transition when both the menu and ribbons were in use. The problem with the Ribbon is that unless you use it for hours a day, the menu is faster, because you can find the items much more easily.
Usually the people who complain that software B is hard to use have been using software A for 10 years and B is just different enough to throw them off constantly.
Exactly. I made the transition from Microsoft's suite to AO and LO almost seamlessly. I had to look up some things in their spreadsheet, but that might have taken up 15 minutes. since then. On the other hand, fixing documents from Windows to OSX was a regular part of operation, I probably spent months overall.
Whenever I read stories like this, ie. Windows vs. Linux vs. OSX vs. it seems to always be from the perspective of the implementers or those looking to make a point about whether it can be done. Why not offer choice?
If you use Microsoft office, you put a straitjacket on your system. Not compatible with OSX version of Office, no software at all for Linux.
Choice is nice, but why choose the most limiting OS and Office Suite? I run LO, and my Mac shows the same as my Windows shows the same as my Linux shows the same.
That's why I use it.
Better than Micro$oft Office 365.
By a country mile.
Libre/OpenOffce perhaps, GIMP for sure, and KiCAD a little... but they aren't that bad. I have used very expensive software that was no better... OrCAD for instance (whatever it is called now, Xilinx's toolcina etc..Visual Studio crashes on a whim...
Why is Office 365 so much easier to use than Libre? This is surprising to me. Gimp just doesn't have the tools I need, but Microsoftt Office is at the bottom of my Office suite list.
Uh huh... right.. and guess which party is the one who created this bill? Whatever nonsense your spouting, so far as far as actions go, only one party has been doing that. So please piss off with your both sides bullshit.
Anyone who uses the "Everyone is bad, and they al agree" excuse is promoting that they are perfectly accepting of the bad behavior.
It takes a secial kind of stupid to say that a bill introduced by one party, supported unanimously and opposed by every member of the other party means tat both parties are in agreement.
Then again, America's mistaken idea that the thoughts of the stupid are equal to the thoughts of the intelligent are exactly why we have fucked ourselves severely. AC is the epitome of the stupid side.
Two women who were his employees. Note that when that sort of thing happened in industry, it was a slam-dunk for a sexual harassment suit. But people REALLY like Bill. Enough that they gave him a pass on something that would've gotten any CEO in the country in trouble....
You must have missed the consensual part. If Lewinsky was harassed or raped by Mr Clinton, or otherwise forced to engage in sexual activity. Especially since there were at least 9 times this happened, it is pretty hard to argue that it wasn't consensual.
Even in the liberal hotbed where I last worked, if a female employee enters into a consensual romantic relationship with her supervisor, or vice versa, the subordinate is transferred to a different department, outside of the chain of command. No one is fired, no one goes to jail.
While I'm no Democrat, I find some folks do save their moral outrage for the party they consider the enemy. Both sides have enough human activity to make the prudes do their tsk tsk thing.
People who are carve out a high moral ground because President Clinton cot a consensual blowjob are remarkably silent on another occupant of the White House who has done some same sex porn.
I don't particularly care, but will be fascinated to hear your defense of that.
You earned a Troll vote already? Looks like the downmodders are staying in tonight.
The way things are these days, I wouldn't be surprised if people weren't modded down before they finish typing.
I predict this will hit -1 within 5 minutes of posting.
The committee is not the entire House. If you think all GOP are going to support it you're insane. If you think all Dems will oppose it, let's wait till the bribes get handed out.
So what you're saying is there is still time to make this another example of the Democrat's utter moral bankruptcy? Thank Gawd, I was getting worried there. I'll get back to you after I talk to Kellyanne. She'll have the straight scoop - probably something Obama or FDR did.
The bill, HR 1313, was approved by a House committee on Wednesday, with all 22 Republicans supporting it and all 17 Democrats opposed.
But remember, folks: both sides are bad and all truly intelligent people choose not to vote.
Don't worry, the Democrats want to control your every move, but the freedom loving Republicans will make certain y this will make...... Hey! That brown person over there is a-tryin' to take yer guns away - Get 'im And Besides, abortion, and the death tax.
How exactly do these wifi cameras get exposed to public hacking? Are these cameras that you configure to use your own wifi network, and that automatically makes them visible outside your network? I have two wifi baby monitors in my home, but they both generate their own wifi signal are not on my home network. I am comfortable with the risk that someone could theoretically walk up to my house, hack the (random) factory password, and watch the baby in its crib. Is there some magic I don't know about that connects them to the internet?
https://krebsonsecurity.com/20... If your cams never attach to the internet, it's cool, but most cameras these days are IP, and they are the STD's of the web.
If you don't want somebody knowing what you bought, you absolutely have to use cash.
That's gone by the wayside. For some reason I had to buy something around a hundred dollars or so with cash. I had to show them ID and give a phone number.
I suspect a lot of Slashdotters are going to have to sell everything, and move to a compound in remote Idaho, only barter, tear up their SS card, and go back to subsistence living.
I wonder if the 1840's were really that much better than today.
But is it compatible with Internet Explorer 6? W have to use IE6.
Cornish Pasty is the English version. It's a Space Cornish Pasty.
So strippers wear them on their nipples?
There's a word, you don't know what it means, you're asking what it means, but you can't even transcribe the letters correctly. Talk about fail.
I was going to tell AC it was kinda like a perogi. But that's not speaking American either.
Where I work at we have both password rules AND mandatory password change every month... MONTH! Who the hell comes up with these stupid arbitrary ideas about security?
Who? Probably someone who doesn't use a computer.
Arrgh, what a system. Now you probably have people writing down their passwords, and storing them in their wallet or purse, or worse, the traditional "under the keyboard". Then the IT department is probably spending a lot of time resetting passwords when the people who do it correctly forget their password. Over and over
It's just that these cameras, like the ovwewhelming majority of the Internet of Things, is 100 percent insecure. Real hackers probably are insulted by the insinuation that you actually have to hack anything.
And y'all better get used to it folks. THe manufacturers are pushing this, and the consumers are buying this, and it's not going away.