Then I can charge the bluetooth headphones while charging the Apple Phone while listening to music. Who woulda guessed life could be so grand!?!
Oh my.that's what started the Bowling green massacre. Seriously dude, It's the wrong color for you, Steve Jobs is an asshole and your Chevvie can run circles around my Ford.
If the 10 dollar set of headphones is the determinant factor, then but a Samsung phone and revel in your wise purchase.
They screwed up with deleting the headphone jack. I have an iPhone 6 and I can charge and listen to sounds in the privacy of my own head.
No headphone jack, no sale. I'll just go back Android.
Isn't it amazing? Completely impossible to listen to an iPhone 7 on any headsets whatsoever. Go figure. I have a bluetooth - Works. I have Apple's headset - it works. I have the 10 dollar pair of cheap mini stereo plugged headset that is the gold standard of Slashdot users - why it even works. There is something in you folks heads, but it's alternative facts.
Like I said, and you've just demonstrated, you're not ready for that just yet.
Do some reading on your own, if you think you can handle it.
Thank you for admitting that you have no argument, you merely disagree. Good luck with that. I challenge you to put forth a good argument. I am perhaps more ready than you could ever imagine. So far, you have provided nothing, is that all you have?
If you would get fired for wearing certain attire at your job, a woman would similarly get fired for wearing similar attire. Companies would be sued out of existence if they did not have measurably similar standards for their dress code. Your claim is a complete fabrication.
There are plenty of women who want to model and make a very good living doing just that. In fact women make on average over 10 times more than men for modeling work. Face it: You wish to deny women the right to work in a job of their choosing and force them into STEM jobs. You are a misogynist who does not believe in a woman's liberty. Shame on you!
Allow me to express this in a non-sexual obsessed context. It is the matter of dressing appropriately for the occasion. It is pretty obvious in a corporate, or educational system, that there are various mores that people use. That is why with the semi-random nature of what I was called on to do, I kept both a suit white shirt and tie in my office, and a pair of jeans and a work shirt. Some times I would get a call to come and do a meeting that was going on at the moment.
So I suited up and did it. I might get a call to crawl around in a dirty or otherwise nasty space later in the day, so on went the Jeans and T-Shirt. I dressed the way one dressed for the job.
Now where it gets interesting is a co-worker was the blue jeans and t-shirt type. She didn't present, but was sometimes asked to hang out at a meeting for a while. So she went up in her jeans and t-shirt. Which was not appropriate dress. One time it was mentioned to her about that, and she complained to me. I told her what I did, which was bring different clothes to change into, and she said "No way will I do that!" So when times got lean, her non-professional dress got her terminated. We need to dress for the occasion.
Now while I have always maintained that booth babes are silly, it's obvious that they serve some purpose. and that is to attract the attention of people at trade shows, and to keep them occupied until a sales rep could relieve them. To schmooze, so to speak. So they dress a certain way.
So to relate this back to the regular workplace, there really isn't a function in the workplace for women to dress like Hooter's girls (except at Hooter's)
So it's pretty simple. The maintenance staff dress in sturdy work cloths, the machinists dress in sturdy work clothes with short sleeves and no ties - a big danger. Staff Assistants and HR people dress in more dressy Professional, The suits dressed in conservative professional fashion, and the semi-professionals tended to blue jeans and T's or cotton shirts. The only thing I ever strayed from the suits norm as needed was that I wear black New Balance sneakies because of a fasciitis issue. But they were black and almost no one noticed. Booth babe is not a normal work dress standard.
Did you note the most subtle things about Mosuo culture, you are not breaking families to make families, creating enduring family stability over many generations. No divorce, no orphans, continual adult support for child development and from child to adult the familial structure provides support and structure for contributing support, really much more sensible.
It does make a certain amount of sense, and stands in contrast to the stark and cruel Abrahamic family values. Oh boy am I going to catch hell for writing that
The purpose of employment is the production of goods and services, not "keeping people busy". Elimination of unproductive jobs is a GOOD THING, since it allows those people to be employed elsewhere doing something that actually makes sense.
So when you retire, are you going to demand to be euthanized because of your lack of productivity? I'm retired, and the only thing I'm adding to the economy is spending money, so by your definition I need to be eliminated - granted, probably a popular mood on new slashdot.
Regardless, your concept of eliminating jobs that are not productive is interesting, and if the logical place is to start with booth babes - Sounds legit.
Will we soon be banning attractive women because they are attractive?? Or strictly enforcing a dress code?
RTFA. It is a dress code.
These women are not performing illegal sexual favors, sex acts for the attendees, and are not nude. A dress code to eliminate the concept of - oh hell, what is it supposed to eliminate - men showing interest in an attractive woman, or women wanting attractive women to be punished? Will we be demanding that waitresses in bars dress in a manner that is not attractive to anyone? Seriously, I was at a beach bar this evening, and the waitresses were wearing tight jeans and t-shirts, and a number of them I found quite fetching. If they were in skimpy outfits, I would likely have ignored them. And a lot of guys are like that. But that's just them and me, These tight jeans and T-Shirts are kinda revealing, and sexy in their own way. We better get on this right away - perhaps make them wear flimsy burnooses? Maybe the bar should just use male staff. Can't afford to offend anyone.
They are only setting limits for the event they are running. The reason is to avoid having women being required to dress in a certain manner in order to get paid. They are running the event, they can set the rules for the event.
If I showed up and set up a stand to sell popcorn and they said no, does that mean that they're denying people the right to earn a living?
If a man showed up wearing only a Tarzan loincloth and was told that was not appropriate would it be fair to say that now they're denying men the right to dress as they like?
Wow, these things have changed a lot. I had no idea that the booth babes were wearing only loincloth and nothing else.
and is not required to dress like a stripper to do the job
See that word? It's VERY important. How do you think that word changes the meaning of the AC's sentence from your interpretation?
There's a host of other issues with booth-babe style exploitation, naturally, but you might not be ready for those just yet...
Explain how they are exploited. Are they kidnapped and forced to do this job? Forced at gunpoint? To me, booth babes are silly. But they are getting paid to do a legitimate job, not forced to do it, they pay taxes, and are not a burden to society. They are the victims of this, and just because for some warped reason, these women losing their jobs makes you feel good, perhaps some day, some one will celebrate when you lose your job . But hey, some folks become screaming angry at halloween costumes . Petty is as petty does. so celebrate!
If the woman is knowledgeable in the area, and is not required to dress like a stripper to do the job, she can still do the job. It really isn't complicated.
Are you denying a woman the right to dress as she likes? Define dressing like a stripper in a manner that will accommodate all cultures.
Fascinating that the people who are demanding this are ending up acting exactly like cultures that demand that women dress in a specific and asexual manner for their religious values.
Really this is taking away women's rights not enhancing them. Now they can't wear whatever they want.
Not just rights, this is just more misogynistic basement-nerds taking jobs away from women!
In a strange way - it is taking away jobs. While I don't see much of a purpose for them, yeah, some women are losing their jobs.
Here's an interesting question. Let us take someone like my favorite pretty lady - Sophia Vergara. Say she worked for one of these companies, and was a perfectly competent employee. She could wear a horse blanket, and still look good enough to make most men stupid. Will we soon be banning attractive women because they are attractive?? Or strictly enforcing a dress code? Or we in the name of whatever the hell we are calling what we are doing, make women cover their heads in order to not use attractiveness in any way because then we can't see her face, and she will not be inciting lust in males?
That's true, slashdot isn't a bastion of special snowflake liberals, but what is so interesting is that it used to be far more left wing than it is now.
And of course you're right about the fringe groups hating science.
Now it is time for me to piss them off. The presumptive far right Trumpists, and the so called social justice warriors are actually almost identical in idealization, and with how they demand things to be run, even if they fight each other tooth and nail over silly little details. They demand freedom over some things, while demanding a hard fist or refusing other things - big deal, all of them are dangerous anti freedom groups who demand to rule everyone's lives. With either group, you end up with no freedom over anything.
At least the libertarians - real ones, not the Republicans who try to tap dance their beating their meat while thinking of Ayn Rand, and opposing most everything she stood for - actually try to think in terms of allowing individuals to run their lives as they see fit.
And that's why idealists hate scientists. Seeking for truth is almost always in direct conflict with ideology. When evolution is replaced by Lysenkoism or creationism, or people deny that the actions of the so-called greenhouse gases and anti-greenhouse gases exist, or that if a few people are given all of the money, it means they will naturally share it with people who don't, and all will become well to do, or that vaccines cause autism, and hold that belief long after every proof has been given that they don't or that you can rule with an iron fist forever - well, science just doesn't fit with those political ideologues.
Actually what I am doing is telling you something you don't want to hear, and it is making you angry.
I'm not angry at all, why you would say such a thing makes me think your ability to reason is extremely flawed.
Make no mistake, I am almost always wrong an all matters. You can make a lot of money betting against all of my opinions. Millions have made their fortunes that way. I also insulted you to hell and back didn't I? Perhaps my ability to reason is deeply flawed. Perhaps I am prematurely senile and no longer capable of reasoned thought. Perhaps indeed.
That's what I do, and it irritates a lot of people.
What do you do, make wild assumptions and get them completely wrong? If that's your party trick I'd maybe look for something else...
Then use a reasoned argument to prove me wrong!
With all due respect, I often get better arguments from people on Youtube comment boards. I suspect you are an intelligent person, in which case I believe you can do better, possibly without the personal forays into negative presumptions about our mental states. That's why I said earlier I was getting gibberish - you can do better.
So Have a last post, and we'll just accept that you say I am wrong because you say I am wrong. That's the extent of your argument so far, so declare yourself the winner, and do whatever you do. If you simply must summarily reject what I write, I could do the same. But that's like two 5 year olds arguing in the playground over who is a poopyhead and who is a doodooface. Good day!
... one new way of obtaining the coal that is left is you tear off the top of a mountain, and dump the tailings in the next valley over. Aside from freaking people out with the look, it pretty much completely destroys the local ecosystem that cannot be mitigated.
Don't forget water pollution from the runoff !!
Ugh. Usually there is a stream exiting the valley that gets filled in. Then we get orangewater. Fish love it! Great for people to drink too - just like sulfuric acid koolaid.
I searched for, "stocking just in time inventory."
Up came a photo of a major trophy babe in fishnet stockings and little else at a site selling "Stockings just in time for Christmas and we have a huge inventory."
HAH! Well, sales probably went up, and I guess the presentation was kind of prophetic about the internet. "Yikes!" used to be a pretty risky search word - dunno, I haven't included it for years.
It's kind of like the situation of a moth going to flame. Coal smoke may or may not smell good, but it's definitely full of carcinogens, heavy metals and other toxic shit and you should NOT be breathing it if you value your health.
But it is the tragedy of people not knowing or understanding, and yes for some even caring. If the air is clean because of working to keep it clean, people will wonder why we are spending money on it. So we are poised to return to the glory days.
Meanwhile, a vision of back to the future The Cuyahoga river. A river that caught on fire more than once. This is from 1969. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... Just remember,regulations kill business. So when it catches on fire again, everyone bend over and take a hundred deep breaths, and revel in it.
tor bridges just look like one a address ie like vpn but is tor. and vpns all your isps see is that you connect to that one address and its encrypted almost always and takes certs and logins as well as tor.
Just me when I hear suppositions that suggest that. With all of my changes I made to my house, I now use less electricity than in 1993 when I bought it. My quality of life if you will, is much better, and Overall energy consumption electrical and heat via NatGas is way down. I do not consider the idea that energy use will always have to go up as inevitable.
Our energy use will almost certainly continue to increase until it rather precipitously drops to either zero or something close to it. As long as our society holds together we should expect our energy use to increase. If energy use actually falls significantly it probably means something very bad has happened to the human race.
As we shift to solar and wind perhaps the small nuc station here and there, we'll have to redefine energy use. The grid however, is probably in deep yogurt, because it is a strategically vulnerable area that has pretty much outlived it's original purpose. That was a fairly centralized and synchronized system that fed power out over large distances, and lost a lot of that power in lines and transformers that compensated for the losses. We are moving toward a point source power generation system where individual households are not affected by what happens on the grid.
So really, if I am not connected to a grid sourced power system, and later, most people aren't, what does that mean for energy use?
Because I'm talking about trends, not individuals.
No you aren't, you're talking a handful of extremist opinions, which are about the handful of of extremists at the other end of the spectrum, and tried to pass this off as behaviour from the normal range. And you fail to see the irony in doing the exact same thing in reverse.
Actually what I am doing is telling you something you don't want to hear, and it is making you angry. That's what I do, and it irritates a lot of people. If you want to continue the discussion, fine - but I will not say what you want to hear.
Tell me, do you also think all the world's entire 1.6 Billion Muslims are all terrorists that want to kill you?
Well now - there is a fine non-sequitur. To answer your question no. I worked with a number of people of different religions, and as far as I know, none of them wanted to kill me. Never came up, and I knew that some of them were followers of Islam.
Even my personal experiences aside, no, there are a lot of Muslims in this world, and while many might want to deny it, there is a subset of them who are preying on other people, and the people they are preying on are likewise Muslims. Does that fit into your belief structure and therefore allowable to post without offending you so? If so, tell me what I wrote that is a lie.
Is it an extremist position when there are laws against manspreading? So who were the extremists who wrote this law, and who were the extremists who wanted them to write it? Explain in a manner that is not simply saying that I am wrong. I give citations, and you seem to think that you can prove me wrong just by disagreeing. Sounds pretty Trumpist to me. If not in left or right, very much in your desire to hear only what you want to hear.
When the NatGas Frackers came through my area, they employed a lot of people for a few years. Then the wells were built, and they moved to another state.
Are you sure about that? Where are you located? In most places, the frackers ceased operations because the price of oil fell through the floor and it stopped being economical to drill new wells.
Northern PA. You are right, they did overdrill and the bottom dropped out of the gas market. But the concept still holds. Once the drilling and pipeline is done for whatever reason, the majority of the jobs go away. What is left is a few people who check on the wellheads and brines if any, and the collection pads. It's just the nature of the work. Unfortunately, a lot of people fooled themselves into the idea that this would create careers.
When I lived in West Virginia, coal stoves were very common (wood stoves too).
On a cold and damp bone chilling winter day, nothing warms as well as a coal stove. Coal smoke smells good too, sweet and not as acrid as wood smoke. Seriously, can you imagine someone warming themself next to a solar panel? Ha. You can't get enough electricity out of a solar panel to warm a house in cold weather, certainly not at the favorable cost/benefit ratio which coal provides.
O RLY? We had coal heat when I was a kid, and that stuff had an acrid, acidic smell that brings back bad memories when I smell coal smoke even today. Stoking, removal of the ashes - a major pain in the ass. And the reason you got to feel the heat in the morning was that unless someone got up every three hours, the fire would burn out. Or you could bank it and get cold anyhow.
My NatGas super efficient furnace doesn't require me to warm up on damp bone chilling days because I'm already there. Seems like celebrating old hand cranked cars.
Unless you were trying to be funny - then Okay, carry on..
Oh please...coal mining has become too expensive and unproductive to sustain itself in any reasonable way.
Mining it isn't quite like it used to be either. Even though it dosn't employ many people to do the work, one new way of obtaining the coal that is left is you tear off the top of a mountain, and dump the tailings in the next valley over. Aside from freaking people out with the look, it pretty much completely destroys the local ecosystem that cannot be mitigated. All in all, not something most of us want in our ex-backyard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
When you have an administration who effectively declared war on coal and coal producers, and shoveled billions of tax dollars in to various (mostly failed) solar companies - to launder the money - it's not a shock that there are more solar jobs.
Bullshit.
What were all of these failed companies? And what was the path of th laundered money?
I'll bet you woulld have really been pissed off when coal replaced wood. One time wood was king, and when coal came along, it killed a lot of lumbereer's jobs.By the way, this is true, not bullshit http://explorepahistory.com/st... Fortunately however, all of the coal barons were of impeccable character and honesty, unlike these criminals who are so unamerican that they eschew black lung disease.
Alternative news report - O'Blama was seen at the great Bowling Green Massacre killing honest out of work coal workers with a broken solar panel, then holding up hhis mooslim birth certificate chanting to Allah, and giving his wholee classified information collection to Hellary, while he drank the blood of his victims.
But that's just how these things work. Once upon a time, coal was king. But now it's falling. When the NatGas Frackers came through my area, they employed a lot of people for a few years. Then the wells were built, and they moved to another state.
Even if by some Executive fiat, we moved back to coal, we'd have to deal with the combined effects of automation and that the rest of the world is dropping it. So we won't get exports.
In other words, like you said, the jobs are gone.
But people tend not to think much beyond next month. When the Frackers came to the area, all you heard about was jerbs, Jerbs, JERBS! As if Fracking was the majic pill that was going to give these folks jobs for the rest of their days.
But the wells were drilled, new pipelines were laid, collctors and compressors, and the system doesn't need many people to keep it up and running - at least compared to the initial jobs.
So yeah, solar industry jobs wil probably follow a similar pattern. A huge boom, then trailing off. The days of thinking that a person is going to do one job, the same job, live in the same town in the same houhse your entire life, and not have to learn to do anything else is no longer a rational idea. Things change too quickly.
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Then I can charge the bluetooth headphones while charging the Apple Phone while listening to music. Who woulda guessed life could be so grand!?!
Oh my.that's what started the Bowling green massacre. Seriously dude, It's the wrong color for you, Steve Jobs is an asshole and your Chevvie can run circles around my Ford.
If the 10 dollar set of headphones is the determinant factor, then but a Samsung phone and revel in your wise purchase.
Exactly. Accept those apple compromises.
Tell me what the compromises are AC.
They screwed up with deleting the headphone jack. I have an iPhone 6 and I can charge and listen to sounds in the privacy of my own head.
No headphone jack, no sale. I'll just go back Android.
Isn't it amazing? Completely impossible to listen to an iPhone 7 on any headsets whatsoever. Go figure. I have a bluetooth - Works. I have Apple's headset - it works. I have the 10 dollar pair of cheap mini stereo plugged headset that is the gold standard of Slashdot users - why it even works. There is something in you folks heads, but it's alternative facts.
Like I said, and you've just demonstrated, you're not ready for that just yet.
Do some reading on your own, if you think you can handle it.
Thank you for admitting that you have no argument, you merely disagree. Good luck with that. I challenge you to put forth a good argument. I am perhaps more ready than you could ever imagine. So far, you have provided nothing, is that all you have?
If you would get fired for wearing certain attire at your job, a woman would similarly get fired for wearing similar attire. Companies would be sued out of existence if they did not have measurably similar standards for their dress code. Your claim is a complete fabrication.
There are plenty of women who want to model and make a very good living doing just that. In fact women make on average over 10 times more than men for modeling work. Face it: You wish to deny women the right to work in a job of their choosing and force them into STEM jobs. You are a misogynist who does not believe in a woman's liberty. Shame on you!
Allow me to express this in a non-sexual obsessed context. It is the matter of dressing appropriately for the occasion. It is pretty obvious in a corporate, or educational system, that there are various mores that people use. That is why with the semi-random nature of what I was called on to do, I kept both a suit white shirt and tie in my office, and a pair of jeans and a work shirt. Some times I would get a call to come and do a meeting that was going on at the moment.
So I suited up and did it. I might get a call to crawl around in a dirty or otherwise nasty space later in the day, so on went the Jeans and T-Shirt. I dressed the way one dressed for the job.
Now where it gets interesting is a co-worker was the blue jeans and t-shirt type. She didn't present, but was sometimes asked to hang out at a meeting for a while. So she went up in her jeans and t-shirt. Which was not appropriate dress. One time it was mentioned to her about that, and she complained to me. I told her what I did, which was bring different clothes to change into, and she said "No way will I do that!" So when times got lean, her non-professional dress got her terminated. We need to dress for the occasion.
Now while I have always maintained that booth babes are silly, it's obvious that they serve some purpose. and that is to attract the attention of people at trade shows, and to keep them occupied until a sales rep could relieve them. To schmooze, so to speak. So they dress a certain way.
So to relate this back to the regular workplace, there really isn't a function in the workplace for women to dress like Hooter's girls (except at Hooter's)
So it's pretty simple. The maintenance staff dress in sturdy work cloths, the machinists dress in sturdy work clothes with short sleeves and no ties - a big danger. Staff Assistants and HR people dress in more dressy Professional, The suits dressed in conservative professional fashion, and the semi-professionals tended to blue jeans and T's or cotton shirts. The only thing I ever strayed from the suits norm as needed was that I wear black New Balance sneakies because of a fasciitis issue. But they were black and almost no one noticed. Booth babe is not a normal work dress standard.
Did you note the most subtle things about Mosuo culture, you are not breaking families to make families, creating enduring family stability over many generations. No divorce, no orphans, continual adult support for child development and from child to adult the familial structure provides support and structure for contributing support, really much more sensible.
It does make a certain amount of sense, and stands in contrast to the stark and cruel Abrahamic family values. Oh boy am I going to catch hell for writing that
In a strange way - it is taking away jobs.
The purpose of employment is the production of goods and services, not "keeping people busy". Elimination of unproductive jobs is a GOOD THING, since it allows those people to be employed elsewhere doing something that actually makes sense.
So when you retire, are you going to demand to be euthanized because of your lack of productivity? I'm retired, and the only thing I'm adding to the economy is spending money, so by your definition I need to be eliminated - granted, probably a popular mood on new slashdot.
Regardless, your concept of eliminating jobs that are not productive is interesting, and if the logical place is to start with booth babes - Sounds legit.
Will we soon be banning attractive women because they are attractive?? Or strictly enforcing a dress code?
RTFA. It is a dress code.
These women are not performing illegal sexual favors, sex acts for the attendees, and are not nude. A dress code to eliminate the concept of - oh hell, what is it supposed to eliminate - men showing interest in an attractive woman, or women wanting attractive women to be punished? Will we be demanding that waitresses in bars dress in a manner that is not attractive to anyone? Seriously, I was at a beach bar this evening, and the waitresses were wearing tight jeans and t-shirts, and a number of them I found quite fetching. If they were in skimpy outfits, I would likely have ignored them. And a lot of guys are like that. But that's just them and me, These tight jeans and T-Shirts are kinda revealing, and sexy in their own way. We better get on this right away - perhaps make them wear flimsy burnooses? Maybe the bar should just use male staff. Can't afford to offend anyone.
They are only setting limits for the event they are running. The reason is to avoid having women being required to dress in a certain manner in order to get paid. They are running the event, they can set the rules for the event.
If I showed up and set up a stand to sell popcorn and they said no, does that mean that they're denying people the right to earn a living?
If a man showed up wearing only a Tarzan loincloth and was told that was not appropriate would it be fair to say that now they're denying men the right to dress as they like?
Wow, these things have changed a lot. I had no idea that the booth babes were wearing only loincloth and nothing else.
I think I can help you:
and is not required to dress like a stripper to do the job
See that word? It's VERY important. How do you think that word changes the meaning of the AC's sentence from your interpretation?
There's a host of other issues with booth-babe style exploitation, naturally, but you might not be ready for those just yet...
Explain how they are exploited. Are they kidnapped and forced to do this job? Forced at gunpoint? To me, booth babes are silly. But they are getting paid to do a legitimate job, not forced to do it, they pay taxes, and are not a burden to society. They are the victims of this, and just because for some warped reason, these women losing their jobs makes you feel good, perhaps some day, some one will celebrate when you lose your job . But hey, some folks become screaming angry at halloween costumes . Petty is as petty does. so celebrate!
If the woman is knowledgeable in the area, and is not required to dress like a stripper to do the job, she can still do the job. It really isn't complicated.
Are you denying a woman the right to dress as she likes? Define dressing like a stripper in a manner that will accommodate all cultures.
Fascinating that the people who are demanding this are ending up acting exactly like cultures that demand that women dress in a specific and asexual manner for their religious values.
Really this is taking away women's rights not enhancing them. Now they can't wear whatever they want.
Not just rights, this is just more misogynistic basement-nerds taking jobs away from women!
In a strange way - it is taking away jobs. While I don't see much of a purpose for them, yeah, some women are losing their jobs. Here's an interesting question. Let us take someone like my favorite pretty lady - Sophia Vergara. Say she worked for one of these companies, and was a perfectly competent employee. She could wear a horse blanket, and still look good enough to make most men stupid. Will we soon be banning attractive women because they are attractive?? Or strictly enforcing a dress code? Or we in the name of whatever the hell we are calling what we are doing, make women cover their heads in order to not use attractiveness in any way because then we can't see her face, and she will not be inciting lust in males?
tl;dr version. What a sexist move.
That's true, slashdot isn't a bastion of special snowflake liberals, but what is so interesting is that it used to be far more left wing than it is now. And of course you're right about the fringe groups hating science.
Now it is time for me to piss them off. The presumptive far right Trumpists, and the so called social justice warriors are actually almost identical in idealization, and with how they demand things to be run, even if they fight each other tooth and nail over silly little details. They demand freedom over some things, while demanding a hard fist or refusing other things - big deal, all of them are dangerous anti freedom groups who demand to rule everyone's lives. With either group, you end up with no freedom over anything.
At least the libertarians - real ones, not the Republicans who try to tap dance their beating their meat while thinking of Ayn Rand, and opposing most everything she stood for - actually try to think in terms of allowing individuals to run their lives as they see fit.
And that's why idealists hate scientists. Seeking for truth is almost always in direct conflict with ideology. When evolution is replaced by Lysenkoism or creationism, or people deny that the actions of the so-called greenhouse gases and anti-greenhouse gases exist, or that if a few people are given all of the money, it means they will naturally share it with people who don't, and all will become well to do, or that vaccines cause autism, and hold that belief long after every proof has been given that they don't or that you can rule with an iron fist forever - well, science just doesn't fit with those political ideologues.
Actually what I am doing is telling you something you don't want to hear, and it is making you angry.
I'm not angry at all, why you would say such a thing makes me think your ability to reason is extremely flawed.
Make no mistake, I am almost always wrong an all matters. You can make a lot of money betting against all of my opinions. Millions have made their fortunes that way. I also insulted you to hell and back didn't I? Perhaps my ability to reason is deeply flawed. Perhaps I am prematurely senile and no longer capable of reasoned thought. Perhaps indeed.
That's what I do, and it irritates a lot of people.
What do you do, make wild assumptions and get them completely wrong? If that's your party trick I'd maybe look for something else...
Then use a reasoned argument to prove me wrong!
With all due respect, I often get better arguments from people on Youtube comment boards. I suspect you are an intelligent person, in which case I believe you can do better, possibly without the personal forays into negative presumptions about our mental states. That's why I said earlier I was getting gibberish - you can do better.
So Have a last post, and we'll just accept that you say I am wrong because you say I am wrong. That's the extent of your argument so far, so declare yourself the winner, and do whatever you do. If you simply must summarily reject what I write, I could do the same. But that's like two 5 year olds arguing in the playground over who is a poopyhead and who is a doodooface. Good day!
... one new way of obtaining the coal that is left is you tear off the top of a mountain, and dump the tailings in the next valley over. Aside from freaking people out with the look, it pretty much completely destroys the local ecosystem that cannot be mitigated.
Don't forget water pollution from the runoff !!
Ugh. Usually there is a stream exiting the valley that gets filled in. Then we get orangewater. Fish love it! Great for people to drink too - just like sulfuric acid koolaid.
I searched for, "stocking just in time inventory."
Up came a photo of a major trophy babe in fishnet stockings and little else at a site selling "Stockings just in time for Christmas and we have a huge inventory."
HAH! Well, sales probably went up, and I guess the presentation was kind of prophetic about the internet. "Yikes!" used to be a pretty risky search word - dunno, I haven't included it for years.
There are different types of coal. Some smell different from others.
Also, individual senses and tastes may vary.
This has been a public service announcement.
And it makes a great dessert topping as well - try it!
It's kind of like the situation of a moth going to flame. Coal smoke may or may not smell good, but it's definitely full of carcinogens, heavy metals and other toxic shit and you should NOT be breathing it if you value your health.
A lot of it is radioactive as well.
Let us not forget the great London smog of 1952 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... - largely because of coal smoke.
But it is the tragedy of people not knowing or understanding, and yes for some even caring. If the air is clean because of working to keep it clean, people will wonder why we are spending money on it. So we are poised to return to the glory days.
Meanwhile, a vision of back to the future The Cuyahoga river. A river that caught on fire more than once. This is from 1969. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... Just remember,regulations kill business. So when it catches on fire again, everyone bend over and take a hundred deep breaths, and revel in it.
tor bridges just look like one a address ie like vpn but is tor. and vpns all your isps see is that you connect to that one address and its encrypted almost always and takes certs and logins as well as tor.
M'Kay.
So when do you figure we'll be at infinity?
Who said anything about foolish extrapolations?
Just me when I hear suppositions that suggest that. With all of my changes I made to my house, I now use less electricity than in 1993 when I bought it. My quality of life if you will, is much better, and Overall energy consumption electrical and heat via NatGas is way down. I do not consider the idea that energy use will always have to go up as inevitable.
Our energy use will almost certainly continue to increase until it rather precipitously drops to either zero or something close to it. As long as our society holds together we should expect our energy use to increase. If energy use actually falls significantly it probably means something very bad has happened to the human race.
As we shift to solar and wind perhaps the small nuc station here and there, we'll have to redefine energy use. The grid however, is probably in deep yogurt, because it is a strategically vulnerable area that has pretty much outlived it's original purpose. That was a fairly centralized and synchronized system that fed power out over large distances, and lost a lot of that power in lines and transformers that compensated for the losses. We are moving toward a point source power generation system where individual households are not affected by what happens on the grid.
So really, if I am not connected to a grid sourced power system, and later, most people aren't, what does that mean for energy use?
Because I'm talking about trends, not individuals.
No you aren't, you're talking a handful of extremist opinions, which are about the handful of of extremists at the other end of the spectrum, and tried to pass this off as behaviour from the normal range. And you fail to see the irony in doing the exact same thing in reverse.
Actually what I am doing is telling you something you don't want to hear, and it is making you angry. That's what I do, and it irritates a lot of people. If you want to continue the discussion, fine - but I will not say what you want to hear.
Tell me, do you also think all the world's entire 1.6 Billion Muslims are all terrorists that want to kill you?
Well now - there is a fine non-sequitur. To answer your question no. I worked with a number of people of different religions, and as far as I know, none of them wanted to kill me. Never came up, and I knew that some of them were followers of Islam.
Even my personal experiences aside, no, there are a lot of Muslims in this world, and while many might want to deny it, there is a subset of them who are preying on other people, and the people they are preying on are likewise Muslims. Does that fit into your belief structure and therefore allowable to post without offending you so? If so, tell me what I wrote that is a lie.
Is it an extremist position when there are laws against manspreading? So who were the extremists who wrote this law, and who were the extremists who wanted them to write it? Explain in a manner that is not simply saying that I am wrong. I give citations, and you seem to think that you can prove me wrong just by disagreeing. Sounds pretty Trumpist to me. If not in left or right, very much in your desire to hear only what you want to hear.
When the NatGas Frackers came through my area, they employed a lot of people for a few years. Then the wells were built, and they moved to another state.
Are you sure about that? Where are you located? In most places, the frackers ceased operations because the price of oil fell through the floor and it stopped being economical to drill new wells.
Northern PA. You are right, they did overdrill and the bottom dropped out of the gas market. But the concept still holds. Once the drilling and pipeline is done for whatever reason, the majority of the jobs go away. What is left is a few people who check on the wellheads and brines if any, and the collection pads. It's just the nature of the work. Unfortunately, a lot of people fooled themselves into the idea that this would create careers.
When I lived in West Virginia, coal stoves were very common (wood stoves too).
On a cold and damp bone chilling winter day, nothing warms as well as a coal stove. Coal smoke smells good too, sweet and not as acrid as wood smoke. Seriously, can you imagine someone warming themself next to a solar panel? Ha. You can't get enough electricity out of a solar panel to warm a house in cold weather, certainly not at the favorable cost/benefit ratio which coal provides.
O RLY? We had coal heat when I was a kid, and that stuff had an acrid, acidic smell that brings back bad memories when I smell coal smoke even today. Stoking, removal of the ashes - a major pain in the ass. And the reason you got to feel the heat in the morning was that unless someone got up every three hours, the fire would burn out. Or you could bank it and get cold anyhow.
My NatGas super efficient furnace doesn't require me to warm up on damp bone chilling days because I'm already there. Seems like celebrating old hand cranked cars.
Unless you were trying to be funny - then Okay, carry on..
Oh please...coal mining has become too expensive and unproductive to sustain itself in any reasonable way.
Mining it isn't quite like it used to be either. Even though it dosn't employ many people to do the work, one new way of obtaining the coal that is left is you tear off the top of a mountain, and dump the tailings in the next valley over. Aside from freaking people out with the look, it pretty much completely destroys the local ecosystem that cannot be mitigated. All in all, not something most of us want in our ex-backyard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Nookyler is a much better option than this: http://ohvec.org/high-resoluti...
When you have an administration who effectively declared war on coal and coal producers, and shoveled billions of tax dollars in to various (mostly failed) solar companies - to launder the money - it's not a shock that there are more solar jobs.
Bullshit.
What were all of these failed companies? And what was the path of th laundered money?
I'll bet you woulld have really been pissed off when coal replaced wood. One time wood was king, and when coal came along, it killed a lot of lumbereer's jobs.By the way, this is true, not bullshit http://explorepahistory.com/st... Fortunately however, all of the coal barons were of impeccable character and honesty, unlike these criminals who are so unamerican that they eschew black lung disease.
Alternative news report - O'Blama was seen at the great Bowling Green Massacre killing honest out of work coal workers with a broken solar panel, then holding up hhis mooslim birth certificate chanting to Allah, and giving his wholee classified information collection to Hellary, while he drank the blood of his victims.
See, I can spout bullshit too!
the jobs are gone. Just like everything else.
Insightful enough.
But that's just how these things work. Once upon a time, coal was king. But now it's falling. When the NatGas Frackers came through my area, they employed a lot of people for a few years. Then the wells were built, and they moved to another state.
Even if by some Executive fiat, we moved back to coal, we'd have to deal with the combined effects of automation and that the rest of the world is dropping it. So we won't get exports.
In other words, like you said, the jobs are gone.
But people tend not to think much beyond next month. When the Frackers came to the area, all you heard about was jerbs, Jerbs, JERBS! As if Fracking was the majic pill that was going to give these folks jobs for the rest of their days.
But the wells were drilled, new pipelines were laid, collctors and compressors, and the system doesn't need many people to keep it up and running - at least compared to the initial jobs.
So yeah, solar industry jobs wil probably follow a similar pattern. A huge boom, then trailing off. The days of thinking that a person is going to do one job, the same job, live in the same town in the same houhse your entire life, and not have to learn to do anything else is no longer a rational idea. Things change too quickly.