If he is not an intelligent man... how did he reach the top of his field as he did?
A physical skill. A very dexterous person
I doubt that he is or was stupid. I suspect he might be showing some cognitive decline however. Seems like a nice and kind fellow with a few odd ideas.
Just because they're allowed to do that, doesn't mean it's not censorship.
Yeah, its censorship. There is a difference between censorship of fake news or calls to arms to fight (insert target here) or censoring kiddie porn, with suppressing an otherwise legal POV. And its probably not a good idea to pull ye olde slippery slope argument.
Who was it that said, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."?
SpongeBob SquarePants if I recall correctly. Too bad Evelyn B. Hall wasn't allowed to prove her boast. Are you of similar mind? Would you commit suicide or kill someone to allow me to say "I have a lovely bunch of coconuts" if someone tried to stop me?
This whole subject gets bandied about like a litmus test, with a digital free speech versus the vile censors, where if you dare to say that there are any cases where a person is not allowed to say whatever they want to say, we've just fallen down the slope to 1984. Stop that - just stop it.
There is a world of difference between suppressing news to a country and forcing NASA to provide a safe space for Moon landing deniers.
Our schools unfortunately no longer teach critical thinking, instead they go for coddling precious snowflakes. So much so that those precious snowflakes can't handle the truth, much less find it for themselves.
Wow, best non-sequitur ever. So what you are saying is that propaganda or censorshipp never existed until the rise of the self esteem movement? There has been a terrible outcome to that bit of silliness, but no, the problems of censorship are kind of hard to pin on the snowflakes and their well intentioned but stupid teachers and the stupid idea that self esteem could be instilled rather than achieved.
And who controls the school system in the US?
Whoever wants to control it. If a politically inclined group, say, the social conservatives wanted to control the education system, their best bet is to have as many social conservatives become teachers and administrators.
So we are back to personal responsibility and vigilance, instead of trusting a free content host not to enforce its terms of service?
Yawn. It's not censorship, you're playing in their yard, and you are free to start a competitor if it seems like they overstep.
This. Your right to free speech ends at my property line. You cannot come into my house and force me to listen to your speech. The censorship zealots have strange ideas about what "free speech" even means.
It doesn't mean that you are allowed so say whatever you want to say, but others are not allowed to react.
It doesn't mean that you are allowed to threaten death or injury to people.
It doesn't mean that you can take over a venue as your own - imagine Sport's Illustrated being forced by some fringe group to fill their pages with jihadist yammering, or political crap.
It doesn't mean that you must be provided with a vehicle for your speech.
It only means that the government cannot arrest you for expressing yourself in a civil manner. That is all.
I had to open a Facebook page as part of a project I am working on. And there is a problem. Outside of my groups, which are protected realms catering to specific things, its an unholy mess. A tragedy of the commons where you see two opposite articles beside each other, and neither true. Often both claiming censorship - oddly enough, you can see both lies, claiming that their lie is being suppressed.
So while yes, its all possible to block content. As I noted in an earlier post about the tragedy of the commons and the destruction of Usenet, eventually people just drift away because the bullshit to content ratio is simply not worth the effort. Which kills the goose.
Meanwhile I have a thriving little technical community, where people don't have to deal with politics, or religion. People are free to express themselves any way they want to. Just not in the group, where the rules are well known.
The same can be said about each other, but your lack of seeing that makes you a tool.
Same thing makes you rather limited, but hey, thanks for letting me know I'm annoying, because I was only half trying so far. when I'm hitting on all cylinders, I make Torvalds look like Mother Theresa, and that's just how I like it. Ciao, my chachalaca.
If it isn't ruining investment for the middle class purposely, its serving the same function.
and unless I'm wrong Trump is about to print a whole load more money to fund his infrastructure plans.
I'm curious about his weird obsession with pissing off the Chinese. Our two countries are in a codependent relationship now, with China needing us to buy their stuff, and the US needing China not to call their debt. Who the hell knows? Guess we'll fall off that cliff when we get to it.
We didn't avoid catastrophe with the bailouts, we delayed it. I really doubt the US keeps it's position as the world's reserve currency after the next crash.
Well, China wants to replace the dollar with the yen for international trading. Interesting times lie ahead.
Sorry, but those sucking estates dry are busy dealing with FOMO living the YOLO life to plan for the future. Tomorrow is irrelevant.
i gotta agree, but just like the people in my generatino that thought that the future was a Mad Max world, and lived to regret their not planning for the future, these kids will find out one day that they grow too soon old, and too late smart.
If not checked somehow, the last free market transaction will be a mugging. Two people who each own half of everything and need nothing that the other has..
They'll sell each other the bullets they use to kill each other.
As well, the people who want to whine about systmed want to be able to whine about systemd. There are other distros before this one that were free of systemd. They didn't stop the whining. Because the whining, the line in the sand, and the declared target was systemd.
Ah. lookks like I hit a real nerve with someone calling my post flamebait.
Risk losing yur mod point dear moderator, and tell me exactly why simply noting that people complaining about systemd might make themselves much happier by using any of the fine systemd free distros out there. t's not a requirement to use systemd Linux on your computer.
This is a race to the bottom where stopping it is in the interest of everyone involved.
Imagine if you will, the coming brain drain. As there are less and less opportunies for the best and brightest, many will leave. Considering the present hatred towards science, there will be a short time of wild applause for the loss.
http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/con... is very interesting, as it speaks to a coming brain drain, as foreign born students in the US opt out of staying here and go back to their own countries to work their careers. Interesting in that these are not regular Americans! So where are the smart Americans going?
Well, that's kinda nice now isn't it? Smart kid. Goes and gets get holed up in a cubicle at Goldman Sachs, and creates and innovates...... nothing.
I forsee the day where a bright young US student interested in science or technology relocates to China or India, while the US tries to make money selling our hats to each other. Meanwhile an increasingly poor and uneducated public cheers the loss of the liberal egghead with his bible and common sense defying ideas. https://newrepublic.com/articl... Yeah, I know - it's New Republic. Bigthink has an article as well http://bigthink.com/dr-kakus-u... . Its a little older but still good food for thought.
Every value in any economy is derived from a combination of resources and human labour.
We are at the edge of a new "revolution", like the industrial revolution, and agricultural revolution. The information revolution is also tied in here.
The issues are that labor is becoming unnecessary for survival. Its been edging that way for years, but is picking up speed.
And even in fields that we can't imagine ever being fully unmanned, we are seeing less and less people needed to do the stuff.
It's hard to imagine how this will work out. I do know however, if we attempt to go back to the 1940's, we better figure out some way to take the rest of the world back with us.
In a recent election, one of the promises made was to give unemployed coal miners their jobs back. This can only be achieved by forcing out automation in th ecoal fields, and forcing the use of coal upon industry. And the first one isn't going to happen, because the cost of automation replaces the cost of a lot of miners. Its the same with so many unskilled jobs - I'm a little loathe to call mining unskilled, but if we go back to the early 20th century version of mining it sure will be less skills needed.
The idea that enough new jobs will be created to replace all of the people who lose their jobs to automation is not realistic either. And if we force the old paradigm other countries will be happy to take our place, as we introduce old inefficiencies
This is real, this is happening. What we do with the situation will tell us a lot about our survival in the future. Will we decide that people are redundant, and need exterminated to reduce the surplus population? Will we try to make a population soft landing? Will we make work voluntary, and allow the more talented people to make more of their own choices about labor?
It is interesting times ahead of us. Perhaps we shall survive, perhaps we will thrive.
Wil we decide to bomb ourselves back to the stone age? One thing is for certain, we can't have large population of idle young unemployed people.
If you have trouble with Linux, it isn't Linux's fault.
Go reply to all the countless Linux forum support threads telling them that they idiots and Linux just works. LOL.
Well, first off, I seldom call people idiots. But having helped a lot of people, the problems are generally either from trying to impose Windows on Linux, especially at install.
Why I've used the forums myself on occasion. That isn't even at issue because there are help forums for everything. That's how we find bugs, that's how we learn details.Few of us were born knowing how to do this stuff. But if you cannot produce aworking Linux install from a Live distro, it's probably because you didn't follow the directions. Big issues are trying to install while not on the internet, not allowing the install to update while installing, and killing the install when getting warnings - warnings are seldom a problem. A few years back, some people got confused about the different partitions and sizes needed, but that could be an issue that caused problems at one time.
Really.. I discount anybody who says "I tried Linux and it didn't work..." Unless you've got some seriously WEIRD hardware, any of the more popular Linux distros are gonna work great.. Especially those who gripe about Windows problems and then also gripe that Linux doesn't work.. Umm, I think it might be YOU (the complainer) that is the problem vs Linux...
We get this same thing with an SDR Radio that I own. In our community group, People come in breathing fire, wondering why they bought such a piece of shit radio from a bunch of crooks and us assholes who help them support the crap, and 99 times out of 100, its pilot error.
And I've had to as gently as I could on a number of occasions, let them know that if everyone else has a working setup, the problem is probably on their end.
heh.. I like your comment "My present "Windows experience" consists almost totally of repaiing other people's update damage".. Thats me also.. I supported/used Windows for 20 years as a sysadmin, but when I retired in 2010, I decided I was done with using it on my personal systems. At the time I dualbooted Linux and Win7, and it was a piece of cake, and quite cathartic to fire up gparted and delete the Win7 partition.. Just for drill, I do keep a Win7 virtualbox vm, but I don't recall the last time I fired it up.. From the sound of the updates situation, and MS putting all updates into a big blob, so its impossible to see whats needed AND whats NOT, I guess I may as well just delete the VM also.. Of the friends/neighbors/family that I haven't been able to migrate over Linux, that is my only connection with any MS products any longer.. As far as I'm concerned, MS can FOAD....
My Windows support days were pretty strange, since technically I wan't even a computer person. But a large part of the job was being the guy at the meeting who was there to make certain that shit worked. A lot of the official IT guys hated me because they had to listen to an outsider like me. The smart ones knew I was saving their asses. But the suits had a wide range of programs that needed to run, and the regular IT people tended to piss themselves when the suits told them they needed something fixed ASAP.
So they didn't like me, but I saved the IT guys and gals money on Depends adult diapers, and I became a suit of sorts. They liked me. But one of the things a person learns really quickly about Windows is that Updates kill. Even back in XP days. And even thought the IT folks would hold an update for testing before release, they didn't test for much beyond making sure the Staff assistants and accountants had the office suite.
Then there was the time Windows had a bitchfight with a codec vendor and removed the codec during an update. Fortunately, I had my own company laptop that I controlled the update process and looked like a genius because mine was the only computer in the place that could play the vids every visiting suit brought with them.
But I sure as hell don't need to put up that kind of Microsoft shennanigans now that I'm retired. OS X and Linux - the Unix twins - serve me just fine now.
In the short term, you will be seeing people end up in massive debt as the problem gets ignored until we hit a point...
We already had that in the early 2000's, when people tried to live in debt forever. Several CC'c all maxed out, multiply refied houses - my sister in law refied her place so many times that even though she bought a house 10 years before us, by the time we had ours paid off in 15 years, she still had 30 years to go. And yeah, she went Bankrupt. Hopefully that won't happen again. But it will.
Obviously, many companies on this planet are built for a market to service the needs of many of comparatively poor people. Its a classical tragedy of the commons problem: the individual company benefits from layoffs as it has to pay less to its workers. But when too many companies do layoffs, and workers can't find (well paid) jobs, each company suffers from less customers. However, note that there was a car economy before Ford, before "I want to build cars that my workers can afford". Cars were simply reserved for rich people. If the government doesn't intervene (I don't see any other entity with as much power here), we will revert to such a society.
Problem is, overall there is less money, and the wealthy start to prey upon themselves, further reducing the amount of available money.
That's why altogether too many people have this incredibly unsustainable idea that we need to make the majority of us as poor as possible.
When in fact, we need as many people making as much as possible. The wealthier the lower and middle classes can be, the wealthier the higher classes can be. Simple math, because there is more economy to be tapped into. In the short term, you can extract more money by politically causing people to be poorer (except you and your upper class folks. But as people drop out of the useful economy, that mofo over there who only has a billion needs to have it taken from him. And you are just the person who needs to get it.
I'll ask this question, which has come up before: If nobody has a job, then where the [bad language redacted] will they find CUSTOMERS?
If you're wondering what the future definition of "customer" is, ask any Millennial. They don't even remember a time where you actually had to pay for services like email (Gmail), or a web server, even if you were running a business (Facebook).
Yeah, but eventually their parents will die, and since they sucked their parents estates dry, what happens then?
We are only a means of production. If all of the means of production are automated, then we employees will be useless. The machines will do the production part. Why bother with employees when the machines will just create what their owners want? We will be cut out completely, and we will no longer have value.
Is this a Poe situation?
So lets say for the sake of argument that 100 percent of jobs are automated. Just imagine the profit margin of machinery doing all of the jobs - People will be able to buy everything for nothing, and profit will soar because you don't have to pay for the people who aren't costing anything in labor any more. Sounds like heaven, right?
Along with every drivers who breaks the traffic laws.
This should be a new fund raising model. Go 1 mph over the speed limit, and your car takes over locks you in, and drives you to the local station where they won't unlock it until you pay the fine.
I use OpenDNS and have removed access to the latest list of MS telemetry servers. I use Windows 10 (sparingly) for games, and the odd application that actually does require windows. Yet I'm still able to update. Yes, it has managed to piss me off a couple times... but nowhere near the point of overhauling the box with Linux. Partially because the last time I tried to use Linux with this hardware it was even more of a pain to get to work, so I went with the path of least resistance.
Isn't it odd that people go through gyrations in order to get W10 useable, yet any issue at all with Linux makes it a non-starter?
If you have trouble with Linux, it isn't Linux's fault. Millions of us install and use and update all the time, yet you hve conclusively proven by your singular experience that
Linux
Does
not
Work!
So what are the rest of us doing wrong that makes our Linux installs so easy?
Good for the guy who got his car back, and good that they put the would be thief away, but still, can't say I much like the idea that our corporate overlords can track your car (and therefore movements) and remotely lock down your vehicle.
And when autonomous vehicles become common, they'll drive the perp to the precinct station.
But if you live in Seattle you would never actually use an umbrella.
This is true. I haven't owned an umbrella in at least 30 years; a good Goretex parka is all you really need.
I stopped when the yuppies started using golf umbrellas that took up the entire sidewalk.
Next up, silverware that tells you if there is food on your plate, and an implant sensor in your legs to tell you is you have pants on or not.
What about supressing news to the world? If I provide news via Facebook and they block it, they have denied the news to the world.
You can always get your own website.
If he is not an intelligent man... how did he reach the top of his field as he did?
A physical skill. A very dexterous person
I doubt that he is or was stupid. I suspect he might be showing some cognitive decline however. Seems like a nice and kind fellow with a few odd ideas.
Just because they're allowed to do that, doesn't mean it's not censorship.
Yeah, its censorship. There is a difference between censorship of fake news or calls to arms to fight (insert target here) or censoring kiddie porn, with suppressing an otherwise legal POV. And its probably not a good idea to pull ye olde slippery slope argument.
Who was it that said, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."?
SpongeBob SquarePants if I recall correctly. Too bad Evelyn B. Hall wasn't allowed to prove her boast. Are you of similar mind? Would you commit suicide or kill someone to allow me to say "I have a lovely bunch of coconuts" if someone tried to stop me?
This whole subject gets bandied about like a litmus test, with a digital free speech versus the vile censors, where if you dare to say that there are any cases where a person is not allowed to say whatever they want to say, we've just fallen down the slope to 1984. Stop that - just stop it.
There is a world of difference between suppressing news to a country and forcing NASA to provide a safe space for Moon landing deniers.
Our schools unfortunately no longer teach critical thinking, instead they go for coddling precious snowflakes. So much so that those precious snowflakes can't handle the truth, much less find it for themselves.
Wow, best non-sequitur ever. So what you are saying is that propaganda or censorshipp never existed until the rise of the self esteem movement? There has been a terrible outcome to that bit of silliness, but no, the problems of censorship are kind of hard to pin on the snowflakes and their well intentioned but stupid teachers and the stupid idea that self esteem could be instilled rather than achieved.
And who controls the school system in the US?
Whoever wants to control it. If a politically inclined group, say, the social conservatives wanted to control the education system, their best bet is to have as many social conservatives become teachers and administrators.
So we are back to personal responsibility and vigilance, instead of trusting a free content host not to enforce its terms of service?
Yawn. It's not censorship, you're playing in their yard, and you are free to start a competitor if it seems like they overstep.
This. Your right to free speech ends at my property line. You cannot come into my house and force me to listen to your speech. The censorship zealots have strange ideas about what "free speech" even means.
It doesn't mean that you are allowed so say whatever you want to say, but others are not allowed to react.
It doesn't mean that you are allowed to threaten death or injury to people.
It doesn't mean that you can take over a venue as your own - imagine Sport's Illustrated being forced by some fringe group to fill their pages with jihadist yammering, or political crap.
It doesn't mean that you must be provided with a vehicle for your speech.
It only means that the government cannot arrest you for expressing yourself in a civil manner. That is all.
I had to open a Facebook page as part of a project I am working on. And there is a problem. Outside of my groups, which are protected realms catering to specific things, its an unholy mess. A tragedy of the commons where you see two opposite articles beside each other, and neither true. Often both claiming censorship - oddly enough, you can see both lies, claiming that their lie is being suppressed.
So while yes, its all possible to block content. As I noted in an earlier post about the tragedy of the commons and the destruction of Usenet, eventually people just drift away because the bullshit to content ratio is simply not worth the effort. Which kills the goose.
Meanwhile I have a thriving little technical community, where people don't have to deal with politics, or religion. People are free to express themselves any way they want to. Just not in the group, where the rules are well known.
Fuck, you're annoying.
Fuckin-A right I'm annoying!
The same can be said about each other, but your lack of seeing that makes you a tool.
Same thing makes you rather limited, but hey, thanks for letting me know I'm annoying, because I was only half trying so far. when I'm hitting on all cylinders, I make Torvalds look like Mother Theresa, and that's just how I like it. Ciao, my chachalaca.
Interest rates are still near 0,
If it isn't ruining investment for the middle class purposely, its serving the same function.
and unless I'm wrong Trump is about to print a whole load more money to fund his infrastructure plans.
I'm curious about his weird obsession with pissing off the Chinese. Our two countries are in a codependent relationship now, with China needing us to buy their stuff, and the US needing China not to call their debt. Who the hell knows? Guess we'll fall off that cliff when we get to it.
We didn't avoid catastrophe with the bailouts, we delayed it. I really doubt the US keeps it's position as the world's reserve currency after the next crash.
Well, China wants to replace the dollar with the yen for international trading. Interesting times lie ahead.
Sorry, but those sucking estates dry are busy dealing with FOMO living the YOLO life to plan for the future. Tomorrow is irrelevant.
i gotta agree, but just like the people in my generatino that thought that the future was a Mad Max world, and lived to regret their not planning for the future, these kids will find out one day that they grow too soon old, and too late smart.
If not checked somehow, the last free market transaction will be a mugging. Two people who each own half of everything and need nothing that the other has..
They'll sell each other the bullets they use to kill each other.
As well, the people who want to whine about systmed want to be able to whine about systemd. There are other distros before this one that were free of systemd. They didn't stop the whining. Because the whining, the line in the sand, and the declared target was systemd.
Ah. lookks like I hit a real nerve with someone calling my post flamebait.
Risk losing yur mod point dear moderator, and tell me exactly why simply noting that people complaining about systemd might make themselves much happier by using any of the fine systemd free distros out there. t's not a requirement to use systemd Linux on your computer.
This is a race to the bottom where stopping it is in the interest of everyone involved.
Imagine if you will, the coming brain drain. As there are less and less opportunies for the best and brightest, many will leave. Considering the present hatred towards science, there will be a short time of wild applause for the loss.
http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/con... is very interesting, as it speaks to a coming brain drain, as foreign born students in the US opt out of staying here and go back to their own countries to work their careers. Interesting in that these are not regular Americans! So where are the smart Americans going?
Here: http://www.npr.org/2012/02/05/... The finance sector.
Well, that's kinda nice now isn't it? Smart kid. Goes and gets get holed up in a cubicle at Goldman Sachs, and creates and innovates. ..... nothing.
I forsee the day where a bright young US student interested in science or technology relocates to China or India, while the US tries to make money selling our hats to each other. Meanwhile an increasingly poor and uneducated public cheers the loss of the liberal egghead with his bible and common sense defying ideas. https://newrepublic.com/articl... Yeah, I know - it's New Republic. Bigthink has an article as well http://bigthink.com/dr-kakus-u... . Its a little older but still good food for thought.
Every value in any economy is derived from a combination of resources and human labour.
We are at the edge of a new "revolution", like the industrial revolution, and agricultural revolution. The information revolution is also tied in here.
The issues are that labor is becoming unnecessary for survival. Its been edging that way for years, but is picking up speed.
And even in fields that we can't imagine ever being fully unmanned, we are seeing less and less people needed to do the stuff.
It's hard to imagine how this will work out. I do know however, if we attempt to go back to the 1940's, we better figure out some way to take the rest of the world back with us.
In a recent election, one of the promises made was to give unemployed coal miners their jobs back. This can only be achieved by forcing out automation in th ecoal fields, and forcing the use of coal upon industry. And the first one isn't going to happen, because the cost of automation replaces the cost of a lot of miners. Its the same with so many unskilled jobs - I'm a little loathe to call mining unskilled, but if we go back to the early 20th century version of mining it sure will be less skills needed.
The idea that enough new jobs will be created to replace all of the people who lose their jobs to automation is not realistic either. And if we force the old paradigm other countries will be happy to take our place, as we introduce old inefficiencies
This is real, this is happening. What we do with the situation will tell us a lot about our survival in the future. Will we decide that people are redundant, and need exterminated to reduce the surplus population? Will we try to make a population soft landing? Will we make work voluntary, and allow the more talented people to make more of their own choices about labor?
It is interesting times ahead of us. Perhaps we shall survive, perhaps we will thrive. Wil we decide to bomb ourselves back to the stone age? One thing is for certain, we can't have large population of idle young unemployed people.
If you have trouble with Linux, it isn't Linux's fault.
Go reply to all the countless Linux forum support threads telling them that they idiots and Linux just works. LOL.
Well, first off, I seldom call people idiots. But having helped a lot of people, the problems are generally either from trying to impose Windows on Linux, especially at install.
Why I've used the forums myself on occasion. That isn't even at issue because there are help forums for everything. That's how we find bugs, that's how we learn details.Few of us were born knowing how to do this stuff. But if you cannot produce aworking Linux install from a Live distro, it's probably because you didn't follow the directions. Big issues are trying to install while not on the internet, not allowing the install to update while installing, and killing the install when getting warnings - warnings are seldom a problem. A few years back, some people got confused about the different partitions and sizes needed, but that could be an issue that caused problems at one time.
Really.. I discount anybody who says "I tried Linux and it didn't work..." Unless you've got some seriously WEIRD hardware, any of the more popular Linux distros are gonna work great.. Especially those who gripe about Windows problems and then also gripe that Linux doesn't work.. Umm, I think it might be YOU (the complainer) that is the problem vs Linux...
We get this same thing with an SDR Radio that I own. In our community group, People come in breathing fire, wondering why they bought such a piece of shit radio from a bunch of crooks and us assholes who help them support the crap, and 99 times out of 100, its pilot error.
And I've had to as gently as I could on a number of occasions, let them know that if everyone else has a working setup, the problem is probably on their end.
heh.. I like your comment "My present "Windows experience" consists almost totally of repaiing other people's update damage".. Thats me also.. I supported/used Windows for 20 years as a sysadmin, but when I retired in 2010, I decided I was done with using it on my personal systems. At the time I dualbooted Linux and Win7, and it was a piece of cake, and quite cathartic to fire up gparted and delete the Win7 partition.. Just for drill, I do keep a Win7 virtualbox vm, but I don't recall the last time I fired it up.. From the sound of the updates situation, and MS putting all updates into a big blob, so its impossible to see whats needed AND whats NOT, I guess I may as well just delete the VM also.. Of the friends/neighbors/family that I haven't been able to migrate over Linux, that is my only connection with any MS products any longer.. As far as I'm concerned, MS can FOAD....
My Windows support days were pretty strange, since technically I wan't even a computer person. But a large part of the job was being the guy at the meeting who was there to make certain that shit worked. A lot of the official IT guys hated me because they had to listen to an outsider like me. The smart ones knew I was saving their asses. But the suits had a wide range of programs that needed to run, and the regular IT people tended to piss themselves when the suits told them they needed something fixed ASAP.
So they didn't like me, but I saved the IT guys and gals money on Depends adult diapers, and I became a suit of sorts. They liked me. But one of the things a person learns really quickly about Windows is that Updates kill. Even back in XP days. And even thought the IT folks would hold an update for testing before release, they didn't test for much beyond making sure the Staff assistants and accountants had the office suite.
Then there was the time Windows had a bitchfight with a codec vendor and removed the codec during an update. Fortunately, I had my own company laptop that I controlled the update process and looked like a genius because mine was the only computer in the place that could play the vids every visiting suit brought with them.
But I sure as hell don't need to put up that kind of Microsoft shennanigans now that I'm retired. OS X and Linux - the Unix twins - serve me just fine now.
In the short term, you will be seeing people end up in massive debt as the problem gets ignored until we hit a point...
We already had that in the early 2000's, when people tried to live in debt forever. Several CC'c all maxed out, multiply refied houses - my sister in law refied her place so many times that even though she bought a house 10 years before us, by the time we had ours paid off in 15 years, she still had 30 years to go. And yeah, she went Bankrupt. Hopefully that won't happen again. But it will.
Obviously, many companies on this planet are built for a market to service the needs of many of comparatively poor people. Its a classical tragedy of the commons problem: the individual company benefits from layoffs as it has to pay less to its workers. But when too many companies do layoffs, and workers can't find (well paid) jobs, each company suffers from less customers. However, note that there was a car economy before Ford, before "I want to build cars that my workers can afford". Cars were simply reserved for rich people. If the government doesn't intervene (I don't see any other entity with as much power here), we will revert to such a society.
Problem is, overall there is less money, and the wealthy start to prey upon themselves, further reducing the amount of available money.
That's why altogether too many people have this incredibly unsustainable idea that we need to make the majority of us as poor as possible.
When in fact, we need as many people making as much as possible. The wealthier the lower and middle classes can be, the wealthier the higher classes can be. Simple math, because there is more economy to be tapped into. In the short term, you can extract more money by politically causing people to be poorer (except you and your upper class folks. But as people drop out of the useful economy, that mofo over there who only has a billion needs to have it taken from him. And you are just the person who needs to get it.
I'll ask this question, which has come up before: If nobody has a job, then where the [bad language redacted] will they find CUSTOMERS?
If you're wondering what the future definition of "customer" is, ask any Millennial. They don't even remember a time where you actually had to pay for services like email (Gmail), or a web server, even if you were running a business (Facebook).
Yeah, but eventually their parents will die, and since they sucked their parents estates dry, what happens then?
We are only a means of production. If all of the means of production are automated, then we employees will be useless. The machines will do the production part. Why bother with employees when the machines will just create what their owners want? We will be cut out completely, and we will no longer have value.
Is this a Poe situation?
So lets say for the sake of argument that 100 percent of jobs are automated. Just imagine the profit margin of machinery doing all of the jobs - People will be able to buy everything for nothing, and profit will soar because you don't have to pay for the people who aren't costing anything in labor any more. Sounds like heaven, right?
worse yet, your autonomous Uber will scan your face when you get in and take you directly to the police if you have any outstanding warrants.
Disturbingly enough, that is technically feasible.
Along with every drivers who breaks the traffic laws.
This should be a new fund raising model. Go 1 mph over the speed limit, and your car takes over locks you in, and drives you to the local station where they won't unlock it until you pay the fine.
"How much is the fine?"
"How much do you have?"
I use OpenDNS and have removed access to the latest list of MS telemetry servers. I use Windows 10 (sparingly) for games, and the odd application that actually does require windows. Yet I'm still able to update. Yes, it has managed to piss me off a couple times... but nowhere near the point of overhauling the box with Linux. Partially because the last time I tried to use Linux with this hardware it was even more of a pain to get to work, so I went with the path of least resistance.
Isn't it odd that people go through gyrations in order to get W10 useable, yet any issue at all with Linux makes it a non-starter?
If you have trouble with Linux, it isn't Linux's fault. Millions of us install and use and update all the time, yet you hve conclusively proven by your singular experience that
Linux
Does
not
Work!
So what are the rest of us doing wrong that makes our Linux installs so easy?
This is why you should have an emergency hammer in your car, preferably one with a belt slicer in the handle.
Another cheap bit of insurance is a spring loaded counterpunch. I have one in all of my vehicles.
Good for the guy who got his car back, and good that they put the would be thief away, but still, can't say I much like the idea that our corporate overlords can track your car (and therefore movements) and remotely lock down your vehicle.
And when autonomous vehicles become common, they'll drive the perp to the precinct station.