Yeah. I've survived several layoffs. A big part of that was being the one that was fixing the issue at 5:01pm. And may or may not come in the next day. It takes a while for mgmt to learn to trust an employee for one to be able to do that. Typically when they gain that trust the emp will get changed from hourly to salaried.
There are rewards, and they aren't that insignificant. It's good to see someone else here on Slashdot that has this figured out. Seems like most of these people hate work and their employers so much that they turn their careers into self fulfilling prophecies.
In my country if you work 40 hours, you get paid for 40 hours, if you work 60, you get paid for 60.
Why would anyone in their right mind work 60 hours to get paid for 40? That is beyond retarded. You are actually a retard for working more than you are paid for.
Because my little sweet potato, if you had paid attention, I was getting paid a lot more than if I was paid their wages plus overtime. I may be a "retard", but I can definitely do better math than you can.
It i very common that unmarried/kidless people get asked to work extra, whereas their married counterparts do not. Everyone thinks it is more evil to ask a parent to sacrifice family time for work than to ask some reproductive failure who would just be wasting that free time anyway (though they don't consciously think of it in such terms).
While I understand where you are coming from, I managed to have my long work week, have a wife and 1 child and even play Ice Hockey and be president of the local Youth Ice hockey league. It was a lot of work, and I was probably capable of a bit more of that than the average person. I don't sleep all that much. That's why I never had much sympathy for the people who are "too busy".
It is considered even MORE evil to ask a mother to sacrifice family time, because mothers are sacred in our society.
And that is okay, as long as people understand that if a woman makes the choice to have her family take precedence over all else, it's okay. Or a guy even.
But I draw the line at the place where someone decides that the person with other priorities must be paid the same as me. Probably the best example of why I have that opinion was when there was a tight deadline, and the evening before, I got to stay late and finish other people's work who couldn't be bothered to finish it themselves. Happened a lot.
Yeah - they should be paid the exact same wages as me? I don't think so.
I agree there is no difference morally, but there is a big difference societally. A female who decides all men are rapists gets rewarded with Title IX kangaroo courts in universities where the man's right to trial by jury is denied.
By the way, in the citadels of learning where much of the misandry is enabled, there are cracks in the foundations. The University of Chicago sent a letter to all incoming students that included in part:
"Our commitment to academic freedom means that we do not support so-called 'trigger warnings,' we do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial, and we do not condone the creation of intellectual 'safe spaces' where individuals can retreat from ideas and perspectives at adds with their own," the letter from Dean John Ellison said, sent Wednesday to the class of 2020.
"Members of our community are encouraged to speak, write, listen, challenge and learn, without fear of censorship," the letter also said. "You will find that we expect members of our community to be engaged in rigorous debate, discussion, and even disagreement. At times this may challenge you and even cause discomfort."
The problem of course is that in earlier attempts to be inclusive of other viewpoints, Universities have found that many of those who desired inclusiveness had no intention of granting it to others. Not only that, but the denials of expression that the snowflake crowd demanded started to extend into ridiculous areas, such as chasing comedians off campus, and while one could find Bill Maher offensive - of course, that's what he's trying to do, be offensive , funny and make you think, but their outrage extended to Jerry Seinfeld. Seinfeld and others don't even play college campuses any more.
The snowflakes even extended their umbrage unbrella toward Halloween costumes. They would deny others what they demand for themselves.
This might be coming to an end, as Universities are figuring out that the model is a tyranny of the presumably oppressed. Expect to see the whackadoodle element scramble to find other places where they can act all outraged.
I am a single white male, and while I've never cried about it, I have griped about it. You may like being told to bend over and take it up the ass, but not everyone does. Some of us still believe that the 40 hour work week should be a thing.
That's because you are not professional. And are completely unable to comprehend that not everyone has your McDonald's employee outlook. And I'm not even going to say that's a bad thing.It weeds out the people I would otherwise have ot compete with.
We had a few folks like you. They ended up unemployed. But, the food stamp lifestyle may be just your thing.
What about option 3? Instead of you both being salary, you are instead both hourly. That way, you are both "paid the same", but you still get paid more because you worked more time.
People will complain about that as well Why should I have to always work the extra? Even though I did a lot, I still got paid the same even if I didn't.
Why? Because they knew they could depend on me when business needed that.
At least until you are disallowed from working overtime. Which yes I think you should be. We've already been down that road, we don't need to revisit it.
Too bad charlie. It's a competitive world out there, and if you can't keep up, well then, sink to your lowest sustainable level, and have your pride and no one is gonna take advantage of me!" for lunch. No one had to be exactly like me. But there is a whole spectrum between the person who thinks anything extra is getting boned, and the Ol Olsoc types. If there is a big meeting tomorrow, and a couple hours extra work needed, the person who does that work it the valuable one, not you. All a matter of attitude, and rewards.
I've seen your type come and go over the years. Too proud or too something to work any extra at all. Do as little as possible to collect that paycheck. The bosses are all assholes and pricks. And anyone lifting a finger to do anything extra is stupid.
I've also seen them be the first our the door when times get rough. And they can take their ideas that I was getting boned and deposit that in the bank. I retired early, and they are still working, most a few rungs down on the food chain. Who's getting boned now? One fell the whole way to being a waitress - not a bad place to start and all, as a waitress/waiter is a perfectly good thing to do, if a tough way to make a living - but in general, moving up is considered a career move, not starting all over again. I guess that's what happens when you aren't gonna let anyone take advantage of ya. Let us know how that works out for ya.
Yet another thing women fail at, killing themselves.
But they succeeded at getting media attention and suicide prevention support groups just for them. I guess if that was their goal, then a hardy bravo is in order.
Considering the latest form of feminism, the "I am too weak to withstand any negativity, people need to check their speech so I am not triggered, and I need a safe place where only people that agree with me can be around me, and the special women's help because we experience enverything harder feminism - well, it's a short drive to burkha land, where the women are considered too weak to be around the men. And almost completely apart.
Why does the progressive left always require other people to suffer to make up for suffering their policies have caused?
I'm curious. Why does it make you "suffer" because someone else gets paid as much as you do?
How does equal pay make you suffer?
Imagine me making a pro free market statement - so hold on to your hats!!!
In my situation I was very well paid - over 3 times what most of the people in my department of the same position.
But there was a reason for this. I worked outside my job definition as needed, I participated in research and coauthored papers, I interfaced effectively with all levels from the janitors to visiting dignitaries. I'd travel and work offsite, and spend as much time needed to get the job done. It was a very fluid situation, so you couldn't just throw more people at it - you needed that sort of dedication. And heaven help HR if they tried to make a job description.
So now we have to make an argument for a new person coming in being compensated the same as me. Or if the new person is female and doesn't want to work more than 40 hours a week. THe only female I know that regularly did that is my wife, an alpha chick of the "we are equal" variety, and I've worked with many.
Should this new person get the same pay as me? All of the typical suit's arguments asitde, that could be done. They could triple their wages.
But now there is me. My contribution was indeed worth more than theirs. I knew that, the people I worked for knew that. I would exercise my free market value and leave for higher pay somewhere else if the noob who wouldn't work more than 40 hours a week or work as hard or in as many areas with an expanded skillset. Or just work at the same level as they did.
On the other hand, there is no reason that a female doing the same thing shouldn't be compensated as much.
So they paid me more.
I do not know all of the details of this equal pay business, so I could be talking out of my ass - wouldn't be the first time. But its not remotely cut and dried. Let's hope it doesn't become a least common denominator situation.
It definitively sucks to be judged by a collective based on your race and gender, rather than your individual merits and hardships.
Bigotry does not know limits based on gender. A female who decides all men are rapists is no different in principle that a Klan member who believes all blacks are inferior.
All men have a rape switch http://jezebel.com/5279283/is-...
That's pretty offensive. But watch the feedback telling us that its somehow different.
Higher suicide rate is actually more like a higher success at suicide rate.
Check your privilege, you tool of the patriachy! Your insinuation of the tired old accusation that men are more competent than women is offensive!. Just kidding, but if we are going to go there, I'm going to make fun of it.
When is this inequity iniquity going to end? We must tirelessly work until women are as successful as men in offing themselves. Close the suicide gap!
Cause in my experience there's a lot more "oh my children" time given and no "Hey I am a single white male" time compensated.
Hopefully, the work itself will have some impact on compensation. I was the highest paid person in my department by far. That's because I would put in the work needed to get the job done. Trying to get a female co-worker to put in anything over 40 hours was almost impossible. The reasons it was impossible was that "I have to cook dinner for my husband/pick up the kids at day care/I have a golf match/group therapy/I'm in a car pool/I have a headache. The same for most field trips.
To the point where in over 30 years, I recall one time a female co-worker worked overtime. She even cried about it.
After 5 was a sausagefest, as they say. So I'd be interested in seeing some equality in that area as well.
And that's a big issue, because although I'm retired now, if my co-workers who couldn't be bothered to put in any extra when needed were paid the same as me, I'd either need a promotion, or would also have to cook dinner for my wife.
"I consider them as alpha predators, just as I wrote, an opinion shared by many. If you domake a distinction between super predators and alpha predators, it is usually based on whether you define it as what a human does without the technology, we have developed, or with it."
Without technology we are actually pretty low on the food chain altogether. That would mean no rocks, pointy sticks, or traps.
Indeed. But tell me, exactly how many humans are out there today, competing against other animals with only their bare hands? Making force amplifying tools is such an inherent part of what we do, that your completly unarmed human doesn't exist - at leaast as far as I know.
There are numerous predators in every climate on Earth that could kill us in that case. For that matter most large prey creatures could. We aren't particularly strong, we have no claws, and no teeth.
Which is why to me the argument over alpha predation is silly. Silly to the point that when a human is caught by another predator like a bear or lion, it makes worlwide news. One person out of 7 some billion. Because being completely unarmed is an unnatural state for humans. We have so many tools at our disposal.
We don't even reproduce quickly enough to have the advantage of being disposable individually and numbers.
That's because we traded off the make a million of us per female, and hope some survive, for our big brains and ability to use them. You don't produce intelligent beings by using teh reproduction strategy of locusts or coral.
Without tool usage and organization aka technology the only advantage we really have is that in almost every other species being our size would indicate something far stronger than we are so predators would be inclined to go after what they think would be easier prey but I think that advantage would quickly disappear as predators discovered how weak and easy prey we are (without tools).
But the tools are as integral a part of humanity as every other physical aspect. Few adult humans would, if set in a wilderness situation, not start immediately to build devices in order to survive, to catch food and defend ourselves. I certainly would. I'd start with caveman stuff and work my way upwards.
For the rest. Has it ever occurred to you that I am not ignorant and that I simply disagree with the common assessment and find it to be ignorant and dated?
That's because your assessment is just wrong. You take the ultimate end of living things, and make the process that degernerate them and return their building blocks to nature the alpha predators. This not only turns the concept of predation inside out, but also classifies scavenging as predation. It's pointless, because now that a worm is considered an alpha predator, an actual predator must be reclassified as something else, because predators do not gain their nutrients that way.
That your definition of death may simply be a bit unimaginative in my assessment?
After conversing with you, I can understand that you have a hellava lot more imagination than 99.9 percent of the human race. Imagining things does not make them correct.
This concept is old, it views the world on a very macro scale and further arrogantly assumes that macro is more important than micro simply because we've largely dominated macro.
That's because there are both macro and micro scales. I have no idea why you would consider classification of two different scalse as arrogance. It's a way to classifiy things. It was developed in way of explaining the world and how it operates.
Who are we to assume that being beneath (too small for) somethings notice makes one less significant than being above (too large for) somethings notice?
We're the people who make up the classification systems. One is l
Likely, for Linux to be good, it needs to be good. How Linus is, and how he operates, determine to a large extent what Linux is. In other worlds, you need to encourage Linus to keep being himself to preserve Linux - he can't be some other politically correct moron and still achieve what he did. Just like Steve Jobs, Einstein and many ither geniuses, just learn to accept that you cannot get it both, and for good reason. Btw, I really like how Linus leads, a lot. Should be worth 75 Hardvard case studies if not more.
This should be at +5 and quickly! The innovators of great note are not wired for political correctness.
Hence why I said the only way to end it is to change the layout so the overlords have only barely more wealth and power than the underdogs - in that layout, they can't abuse their power because there isn't enough of it.
I have to agree with the analysis.
One of the ironies of life, is that I hear people speak of longing to go back to the 1950's. The contradiction is that they would not find their pecuniary condition to their liking, as the top tier wasn't as widely separated from the average Joe.
And in principle, I don't care how much money a person makes, in practice, this isn't the way to do it, because our present system has geared itself to award psychopathy.
A perfect example is the Epi-pen debacle. After Mylan raised it's epipen prices by 400 percent, and awarded its Psychopath in Chief Heather Bresch a 671 percent comp package raise in 2015, there was a bit of a revolt. A simple inexpensive device to manufacture, but a lifesaving device for some people, that raise and reward for it starts to resemble a shakedown more than the free market. So Ms Bresch can join the Martin Shkreli hall of shame.
Apparently they have reached their acceptance limit - and strangely enough, are forcing the steer toward a healthcare system more in line with civilized countries.
Regardless, their stock is taking a beating. I have a call into my people to divest in them - if I have any stock in them. Looks like others are doing the same.
This sort of seems like a roundabout reply, but it shows what some folks will do when the system gives them too much money and power.
I think you just proved his point: You shouldn't expect everybody to care.
Never would But the answer was to someone who asked the question of why the hell would anybody care. I understand that there are people in the world that don't care about others. It is a spectrum, form simple disdain to psychopathy.
Obviously the closer you get to psychopathy, the less likely a person is are to understand that others might think differently.
But we'd have a real problem trying to invade Canada without the resources to wage an extended war.
I'm pretty sure all you need to do to invade Canada is to walk across the border and ask the first person you see, "Where's the nearest Tim Hortons, eh?"
They'd fight us to the death defenting a Horton's! Probably send out coffee to us during fighting breaks as well.
Even if one does not consider humans as an alpha, they are at least super predators. I consider them as alpha predators, just as I wrote, an opinion shared by many. If you domake a distinction between super predators and alpha predators, it is usually based on whether you define it as what a human does without the technology, we have developed, or with it. P
The insects and microbes that shaitland describes in an attempt to prove me wrong, are actually at the bottom of the food web, or trophic dynamics pool. They are known as the decomposers, and return the components of the now dead thing to the mineral nutrient pool to be recycled. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
It's interesting to note that you, and the rest of the people posting about how much they care about warming and people that they don't know, or even future generations, still bothered to reply to this message instead of junking their computers, selling their houses and cars and living in a tent in the woods with appropriate technology. Or even killing yourselves - after all, as long as you exist, you're fueling resource extraction, pollution and warming.
So I guess you all don't care as much as you think you do.
Wow - there's a digital answer! And interesting that you would actually think to post it.. And jeezuz chryste - inviting me to kill myself. Are you a transpland from Tumblr? That's a big insult from me, please do take it that way.
One does not need to return to being a caveman in order to have some empathy towards others. It's a non sequitur. I am at base, a technologist, and enjoy every minute of being one. I love my computers, love my cars, motorcycles and other technology. Why, I even believe technology can help others. These things are not mutually exclusive, helping and technology.
In fact, all but the poorest today live better and longer lives, and better health than Kings of the medieval age. Because of technology.
At one time, I thought that technology like coal was okay. Then I learned more. At one time, I thought that CO2 was just a gas we exhaled. Then I learned more. And beside myself, at one time, humans thought that Benzene (not Benzine) was the shitz. We used it in cleaners, even after shaves. It smelled kind of nice. After some time, we learned it would cause leukemia. Not even disputed. So we have largely stopped using benzene. a very small percentage in gasoline.
Carbon Tetrachloride. This was a wonder fluid at one time. Non flammable. Used in fire extinguishers, dry cleaning and a refrigerant. Even as a insecticide in stored grain. Then we learned it killed people's livers and was really neurotoxic.. So it isn't in much use at all any more.
We've found other, safer methods of doing all the things those dangerous chemicals did. Interestingly, I found out today, that Carbon Tet was replaced in grain storage with food grade diatomaceous earth, a product so safe that we actually eat it. Its a mechanical insecticide, one that insects cannot gain immunity from.
But here is the problem with your attitude. I dunno if you are married or have children or not, but there was a lot of resistance to removing chemicals like benzene, carbon tet, and tetraethyl lead from the environment. By people who seem to share your attitude of not a fuck being given.
Now one of the things I've found out is that if someone in their immediate family gets ill, even in a family that couldn't care if anyone outside it is dead or alive, they tend to care. So let us say the people for whom finding alternatives to those products won the day, and whoever is closest to you had to work with Carbon Tet, say the people who don't ive a damn about things like exhaust fans won the day as well.
Tell me with a straight face and pretend you are in front of a judge. You think myself and other technologists that care more about your family than you could ever muster up for anyone else should FOAD, and you are perfectly fine with whoever you love most in the world getting liver failure and enduring a slow painful death?
And you better damn well hope a replacement liver comes from someone that cares a little about other people if you want your loved one to get a transplant.
Live long, good health, and prosper, along with your loved ones, even if you want me to kill myself.
I even care about ignorant self centerd fuckwtis like you. Don't like you one bit, but you probably have some use. Now gt back to tumblr and fat shame some people.
Class Warfare is not a bad thing - and the war is ongoing because it hasn't been won yet.
If you want peace between classes, you have to reduce the differences between them sufficiently to make it impossible for the upper classes to abuse and exploit the lower ones. Only then will the lower ones have nothing to retaliate against.
The context is the issue. The "there you go with the class warfare again has been trotted out time and again by th efolks who interestingly enough, won it. years ago.
What would you say if the amish, in their low energy, self sustaining lifestyles said fuck future generations, we don't want to change our lifestyle?
Weeellll, side note:
I live around Amish. They have issues with inbreeding, and many of them are assimilating to modern life. In 1849, there wasn't much difference between the Amish and everyone else. By mid 20th century, they were quaint. Now they are looking silly, what with odd rules like you can't have electricity in the house, but you can have a generator that compresses air in a huge tank that you bring the air into the building in order to run air tools, or you can use a powered machine in the field as long as you use mules to tow it out and back, or you can use a tractor as long as it has steel wheels, not rubber. Or you can ride in a modern vehicle, but not drive one. Or you can't have a phone in your house, but you can have one in a little outhouse in the fields. Just wacky stuff that really doen't have anything to do with anything.
They are not stupid people. I'm certain they know that they aren't living on some remote island where civilization can't each them easily. And the change is coming. A co-worker said that she had Amish friends, and the girls would change into "English" clothing in school, some of the more daring would even wear makeup. Then after school, it was back to the approved dresses. Just imagine - hot Amish chicks in miniskirts! Oops - my bad.
Just this summer, I've seen Amish men driving cars, I saw an Amish woman Checking out a minivan to buy. I've seen multiple Aish with smartphones. That's sort of jarring to se a guy in traditional garb checking his text messages. In a few decades, they will mostly be as bad of heathens as the rest of us.
The Ogre philosopher Gnerdel believed the purpose of life was to live as high on the food chain as possible. She refused to eat vegetarians, preferring to live entirely on creatures that preyed on sentient beings.
Grendel? Although Gnerdel has a kind of geeky elegance.
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Yeah. I've survived several layoffs. A big part of that was being the one that was fixing the issue at 5:01pm. And may or may not come in the next day. It takes a while for mgmt to learn to trust an employee for one to be able to do that. Typically when they gain that trust the emp will get changed from hourly to salaried.
There are rewards, and they aren't that insignificant. It's good to see someone else here on Slashdot that has this figured out. Seems like most of these people hate work and their employers so much that they turn their careers into self fulfilling prophecies.
Your countries IT pay laws are fucking stupid.
In my country if you work 40 hours, you get paid for 40 hours, if you work 60, you get paid for 60.
Why would anyone in their right mind work 60 hours to get paid for 40? That is beyond retarded. You are actually a retard for working more than you are paid for.
Because my little sweet potato, if you had paid attention, I was getting paid a lot more than if I was paid their wages plus overtime. I may be a "retard", but I can definitely do better math than you can.
Aside from that, I was a professional.
It i very common that unmarried/kidless people get asked to work extra, whereas their married counterparts do not. Everyone thinks it is more evil to ask a parent to sacrifice family time for work than to ask some reproductive failure who would just be wasting that free time anyway (though they don't consciously think of it in such terms).
While I understand where you are coming from, I managed to have my long work week, have a wife and 1 child and even play Ice Hockey and be president of the local Youth Ice hockey league. It was a lot of work, and I was probably capable of a bit more of that than the average person. I don't sleep all that much. That's why I never had much sympathy for the people who are "too busy".
It is considered even MORE evil to ask a mother to sacrifice family time, because mothers are sacred in our society.
And that is okay, as long as people understand that if a woman makes the choice to have her family take precedence over all else, it's okay. Or a guy even.
But I draw the line at the place where someone decides that the person with other priorities must be paid the same as me. Probably the best example of why I have that opinion was when there was a tight deadline, and the evening before, I got to stay late and finish other people's work who couldn't be bothered to finish it themselves. Happened a lot.
Yeah - they should be paid the exact same wages as me? I don't think so.
I agree there is no difference morally, but there is a big difference societally. A female who decides all men are rapists gets rewarded with Title IX kangaroo courts in universities where the man's right to trial by jury is denied.
By the way, in the citadels of learning where much of the misandry is enabled, there are cracks in the foundations. The University of Chicago sent a letter to all incoming students that included in part:
"Our commitment to academic freedom means that we do not support so-called 'trigger warnings,' we do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial, and we do not condone the creation of intellectual 'safe spaces' where individuals can retreat from ideas and perspectives at adds with their own," the letter from Dean John Ellison said, sent Wednesday to the class of 2020.
"Members of our community are encouraged to speak, write, listen, challenge and learn, without fear of censorship," the letter also said. "You will find that we expect members of our community to be engaged in rigorous debate, discussion, and even disagreement. At times this may challenge you and even cause discomfort."
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The problem of course is that in earlier attempts to be inclusive of other viewpoints, Universities have found that many of those who desired inclusiveness had no intention of granting it to others. Not only that, but the denials of expression that the snowflake crowd demanded started to extend into ridiculous areas, such as chasing comedians off campus, and while one could find Bill Maher offensive - of course, that's what he's trying to do, be offensive , funny and make you think, but their outrage extended to Jerry Seinfeld. Seinfeld and others don't even play college campuses any more.
The snowflakes even extended their umbrage unbrella toward Halloween costumes. They would deny others what they demand for themselves.
This might be coming to an end, as Universities are figuring out that the model is a tyranny of the presumably oppressed. Expect to see the whackadoodle element scramble to find other places where they can act all outraged.
I am a single white male, and while I've never cried about it, I have griped about it. You may like being told to bend over and take it up the ass, but not everyone does. Some of us still believe that the 40 hour work week should be a thing.
That's because you are not professional. And are completely unable to comprehend that not everyone has your McDonald's employee outlook. And I'm not even going to say that's a bad thing.It weeds out the people I would otherwise have ot compete with.
We had a few folks like you. They ended up unemployed. But, the food stamp lifestyle may be just your thing.
What about option 3? Instead of you both being salary, you are instead both hourly. That way, you are both "paid the same", but you still get paid more because you worked more time.
People will complain about that as well Why should I have to always work the extra? Even though I did a lot, I still got paid the same even if I didn't.
Why? Because they knew they could depend on me when business needed that.
At least until you are disallowed from working overtime. Which yes I think you should be. We've already been down that road, we don't need to revisit it.
Too bad charlie. It's a competitive world out there, and if you can't keep up, well then, sink to your lowest sustainable level, and have your pride and no one is gonna take advantage of me!" for lunch. No one had to be exactly like me. But there is a whole spectrum between the person who thinks anything extra is getting boned, and the Ol Olsoc types. If there is a big meeting tomorrow, and a couple hours extra work needed, the person who does that work it the valuable one, not you. All a matter of attitude, and rewards.
I've seen your type come and go over the years. Too proud or too something to work any extra at all. Do as little as possible to collect that paycheck. The bosses are all assholes and pricks. And anyone lifting a finger to do anything extra is stupid.
I've also seen them be the first our the door when times get rough. And they can take their ideas that I was getting boned and deposit that in the bank. I retired early, and they are still working, most a few rungs down on the food chain. Who's getting boned now? One fell the whole way to being a waitress - not a bad place to start and all, as a waitress/waiter is a perfectly good thing to do, if a tough way to make a living - but in general, moving up is considered a career move, not starting all over again. I guess that's what happens when you aren't gonna let anyone take advantage of ya. Let us know how that works out for ya.
Yet another thing women fail at, killing themselves. But they succeeded at getting media attention and suicide prevention support groups just for them. I guess if that was their goal, then a hardy bravo is in order.
Considering the latest form of feminism, the "I am too weak to withstand any negativity, people need to check their speech so I am not triggered, and I need a safe place where only people that agree with me can be around me, and the special women's help because we experience enverything harder feminism - well, it's a short drive to burkha land, where the women are considered too weak to be around the men. And almost completely apart.
Can we get jazz hands for that?
I'm curious. Why does it make you "suffer" because someone else gets paid as much as you do?
How does equal pay make you suffer?
Imagine me making a pro free market statement - so hold on to your hats!!!
In my situation I was very well paid - over 3 times what most of the people in my department of the same position.
But there was a reason for this. I worked outside my job definition as needed, I participated in research and coauthored papers, I interfaced effectively with all levels from the janitors to visiting dignitaries. I'd travel and work offsite, and spend as much time needed to get the job done. It was a very fluid situation, so you couldn't just throw more people at it - you needed that sort of dedication. And heaven help HR if they tried to make a job description.
So now we have to make an argument for a new person coming in being compensated the same as me. Or if the new person is female and doesn't want to work more than 40 hours a week. THe only female I know that regularly did that is my wife, an alpha chick of the "we are equal" variety, and I've worked with many.
Should this new person get the same pay as me? All of the typical suit's arguments asitde, that could be done. They could triple their wages.
But now there is me. My contribution was indeed worth more than theirs. I knew that, the people I worked for knew that. I would exercise my free market value and leave for higher pay somewhere else if the noob who wouldn't work more than 40 hours a week or work as hard or in as many areas with an expanded skillset. Or just work at the same level as they did.
On the other hand, there is no reason that a female doing the same thing shouldn't be compensated as much.
So they paid me more.
I do not know all of the details of this equal pay business, so I could be talking out of my ass - wouldn't be the first time. But its not remotely cut and dried. Let's hope it doesn't become a least common denominator situation.
It definitively sucks to be judged by a collective based on your race and gender, rather than your individual merits and hardships.
Bigotry does not know limits based on gender. A female who decides all men are rapists is no different in principle that a Klan member who believes all blacks are inferior. All men have a rape switch http://jezebel.com/5279283/is-...
That's pretty offensive. But watch the feedback telling us that its somehow different.
Higher suicide rate is actually more like a higher success at suicide rate.
Check your privilege, you tool of the patriachy! Your insinuation of the tired old accusation that men are more competent than women is offensive!. Just kidding, but if we are going to go there, I'm going to make fun of it.
When is this inequity iniquity going to end? We must tirelessly work until women are as successful as men in offing themselves. Close the suicide gap!
Can they work equal time?
Cause in my experience there's a lot more "oh my children" time given and no "Hey I am a single white male" time compensated.
Hopefully, the work itself will have some impact on compensation. I was the highest paid person in my department by far. That's because I would put in the work needed to get the job done. Trying to get a female co-worker to put in anything over 40 hours was almost impossible. The reasons it was impossible was that "I have to cook dinner for my husband/pick up the kids at day care/I have a golf match/group therapy/I'm in a car pool/I have a headache. The same for most field trips.
To the point where in over 30 years, I recall one time a female co-worker worked overtime. She even cried about it.
After 5 was a sausagefest, as they say. So I'd be interested in seeing some equality in that area as well.
And that's a big issue, because although I'm retired now, if my co-workers who couldn't be bothered to put in any extra when needed were paid the same as me, I'd either need a promotion, or would also have to cook dinner for my wife.
You shouldn't presume to speak for all of humanity.
And neither should you with your smug self-righteousness about what you believe is good for yourself and others.
Perhaps the most pathetic troll all week.
"I consider them as alpha predators, just as I wrote, an opinion shared by many. If you domake a distinction between super predators and alpha predators, it is usually based on whether you define it as what a human does without the technology, we have developed, or with it." Without technology we are actually pretty low on the food chain altogether. That would mean no rocks, pointy sticks, or traps.
Indeed. But tell me, exactly how many humans are out there today, competing against other animals with only their bare hands? Making force amplifying tools is such an inherent part of what we do, that your completly unarmed human doesn't exist - at leaast as far as I know.
There are numerous predators in every climate on Earth that could kill us in that case. For that matter most large prey creatures could. We aren't particularly strong, we have no claws, and no teeth.
Which is why to me the argument over alpha predation is silly. Silly to the point that when a human is caught by another predator like a bear or lion, it makes worlwide news. One person out of 7 some billion. Because being completely unarmed is an unnatural state for humans. We have so many tools at our disposal.
We don't even reproduce quickly enough to have the advantage of being disposable individually and numbers.
That's because we traded off the make a million of us per female, and hope some survive, for our big brains and ability to use them. You don't produce intelligent beings by using teh reproduction strategy of locusts or coral.
Without tool usage and organization aka technology the only advantage we really have is that in almost every other species being our size would indicate something far stronger than we are so predators would be inclined to go after what they think would be easier prey but I think that advantage would quickly disappear as predators discovered how weak and easy prey we are (without tools).
But the tools are as integral a part of humanity as every other physical aspect. Few adult humans would, if set in a wilderness situation, not start immediately to build devices in order to survive, to catch food and defend ourselves. I certainly would. I'd start with caveman stuff and work my way upwards.
For the rest. Has it ever occurred to you that I am not ignorant and that I simply disagree with the common assessment and find it to be ignorant and dated?
That's because your assessment is just wrong. You take the ultimate end of living things, and make the process that degernerate them and return their building blocks to nature the alpha predators. This not only turns the concept of predation inside out, but also classifies scavenging as predation. It's pointless, because now that a worm is considered an alpha predator, an actual predator must be reclassified as something else, because predators do not gain their nutrients that way.
That your definition of death may simply be a bit unimaginative in my assessment?
After conversing with you, I can understand that you have a hellava lot more imagination than 99.9 percent of the human race. Imagining things does not make them correct.
This concept is old, it views the world on a very macro scale and further arrogantly assumes that macro is more important than micro simply because we've largely dominated macro.
That's because there are both macro and micro scales. I have no idea why you would consider classification of two different scalse as arrogance. It's a way to classifiy things. It was developed in way of explaining the world and how it operates.
Who are we to assume that being beneath (too small for) somethings notice makes one less significant than being above (too large for) somethings notice?
We're the people who make up the classification systems. One is l
I would log in but I am not supposed to be online.
Part of your probation?
Likely, for Linux to be good, it needs to be good. How Linus is, and how he operates, determine to a large extent what Linux is. In other worlds, you need to encourage Linus to keep being himself to preserve Linux - he can't be some other politically correct moron and still achieve what he did. Just like Steve Jobs, Einstein and many ither geniuses, just learn to accept that you cannot get it both, and for good reason. Btw, I really like how Linus leads, a lot. Should be worth 75 Hardvard case studies if not more.
This should be at +5 and quickly! The innovators of great note are not wired for political correctness.
Just wanted to say "thank you" to both Linus and GNU for giving me a system that I can appreciate, grow with, and live with.
Hear! Hear! A fine alternative to the update tyranny of an OS that shall not be named!
Hence why I said the only way to end it is to change the layout so the overlords have only barely more wealth and power than the underdogs - in that layout, they can't abuse their power because there isn't enough of it.
I have to agree with the analysis.
One of the ironies of life, is that I hear people speak of longing to go back to the 1950's. The contradiction is that they would not find their pecuniary condition to their liking, as the top tier wasn't as widely separated from the average Joe.
And in principle, I don't care how much money a person makes, in practice, this isn't the way to do it, because our present system has geared itself to award psychopathy.
A perfect example is the Epi-pen debacle. After Mylan raised it's epipen prices by 400 percent, and awarded its Psychopath in Chief Heather Bresch a 671 percent comp package raise in 2015, there was a bit of a revolt. A simple inexpensive device to manufacture, but a lifesaving device for some people, that raise and reward for it starts to resemble a shakedown more than the free market. So Ms Bresch can join the Martin Shkreli hall of shame.
Apparently they have reached their acceptance limit - and strangely enough, are forcing the steer toward a healthcare system more in line with civilized countries.
Regardless, their stock is taking a beating. I have a call into my people to divest in them - if I have any stock in them. Looks like others are doing the same.
This sort of seems like a roundabout reply, but it shows what some folks will do when the system gives them too much money and power.
I am always terrified during an update. Will I still have a working computer afterwards?
Luck of the draw. I went s few months with no problems. Lately it's been every update.
I think you just proved his point: You shouldn't expect everybody to care.
Never would But the answer was to someone who asked the question of why the hell would anybody care. I understand that there are people in the world that don't care about others. It is a spectrum, form simple disdain to psychopathy.
Obviously the closer you get to psychopathy, the less likely a person is are to understand that others might think differently.
But we'd have a real problem trying to invade Canada without the resources to wage an extended war.
I'm pretty sure all you need to do to invade Canada is to walk across the border and ask the first person you see, "Where's the nearest Tim Hortons, eh?"
They'd fight us to the death defenting a Horton's! Probably send out coffee to us during fighting breaks as well.
I'm certain you don't know what "predator" means, or you wouldn't have said something so mind numbingly stupid.
Sigh - tonight is instruction time for the slower group.
An Alpha Predator is a predator residing at the top of a fod chain also known as an apex predator.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Even if one does not consider humans as an alpha, they are at least super predators. I consider them as alpha predators, just as I wrote, an opinion shared by many. If you domake a distinction between super predators and alpha predators, it is usually based on whether you define it as what a human does without the technology, we have developed, or with it. P The insects and microbes that shaitland describes in an attempt to prove me wrong, are actually at the bottom of the food web, or trophic dynamics pool. They are known as the decomposers, and return the components of the now dead thing to the mineral nutrient pool to be recycled. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
It's interesting to note that you, and the rest of the people posting about how much they care about warming and people that they don't know, or even future generations, still bothered to reply to this message instead of junking their computers, selling their houses and cars and living in a tent in the woods with appropriate technology. Or even killing yourselves - after all, as long as you exist, you're fueling resource extraction, pollution and warming.
So I guess you all don't care as much as you think you do.
Wow - there's a digital answer! And interesting that you would actually think to post it.. And jeezuz chryste - inviting me to kill myself. Are you a transpland from Tumblr? That's a big insult from me, please do take it that way.
One does not need to return to being a caveman in order to have some empathy towards others. It's a non sequitur. I am at base, a technologist, and enjoy every minute of being one. I love my computers, love my cars, motorcycles and other technology. Why, I even believe technology can help others. These things are not mutually exclusive, helping and technology.
In fact, all but the poorest today live better and longer lives, and better health than Kings of the medieval age. Because of technology.
At one time, I thought that technology like coal was okay. Then I learned more. At one time, I thought that CO2 was just a gas we exhaled. Then I learned more. And beside myself, at one time, humans thought that Benzene (not Benzine) was the shitz. We used it in cleaners, even after shaves. It smelled kind of nice. After some time, we learned it would cause leukemia. Not even disputed. So we have largely stopped using benzene. a very small percentage in gasoline.
Carbon Tetrachloride. This was a wonder fluid at one time. Non flammable. Used in fire extinguishers, dry cleaning and a refrigerant. Even as a insecticide in stored grain. Then we learned it killed people's livers and was really neurotoxic.. So it isn't in much use at all any more.
We've found other, safer methods of doing all the things those dangerous chemicals did. Interestingly, I found out today, that Carbon Tet was replaced in grain storage with food grade diatomaceous earth, a product so safe that we actually eat it. Its a mechanical insecticide, one that insects cannot gain immunity from.
But here is the problem with your attitude. I dunno if you are married or have children or not, but there was a lot of resistance to removing chemicals like benzene, carbon tet, and tetraethyl lead from the environment. By people who seem to share your attitude of not a fuck being given.
Now one of the things I've found out is that if someone in their immediate family gets ill, even in a family that couldn't care if anyone outside it is dead or alive, they tend to care. So let us say the people for whom finding alternatives to those products won the day, and whoever is closest to you had to work with Carbon Tet, say the people who don't ive a damn about things like exhaust fans won the day as well.
Tell me with a straight face and pretend you are in front of a judge. You think myself and other technologists that care more about your family than you could ever muster up for anyone else should FOAD, and you are perfectly fine with whoever you love most in the world getting liver failure and enduring a slow painful death?
And you better damn well hope a replacement liver comes from someone that cares a little about other people if you want your loved one to get a transplant.
Live long, good health, and prosper, along with your loved ones, even if you want me to kill myself.
I even care about ignorant self centerd fuckwtis like you. Don't like you one bit, but you probably have some use. Now gt back to tumblr and fat shame some people.
Class Warfare is not a bad thing - and the war is ongoing because it hasn't been won yet.
If you want peace between classes, you have to reduce the differences between them sufficiently to make it impossible for the upper classes to abuse and exploit the lower ones. Only then will the lower ones have nothing to retaliate against.
The context is the issue. The "there you go with the class warfare again has been trotted out time and again by th efolks who interestingly enough, won it. years ago.
What would you say if the amish, in their low energy, self sustaining lifestyles said fuck future generations, we don't want to change our lifestyle?
Weeellll, side note:
I live around Amish. They have issues with inbreeding, and many of them are assimilating to modern life. In 1849, there wasn't much difference between the Amish and everyone else. By mid 20th century, they were quaint. Now they are looking silly, what with odd rules like you can't have electricity in the house, but you can have a generator that compresses air in a huge tank that you bring the air into the building in order to run air tools, or you can use a powered machine in the field as long as you use mules to tow it out and back, or you can use a tractor as long as it has steel wheels, not rubber. Or you can ride in a modern vehicle, but not drive one. Or you can't have a phone in your house, but you can have one in a little outhouse in the fields. Just wacky stuff that really doen't have anything to do with anything.
They are not stupid people. I'm certain they know that they aren't living on some remote island where civilization can't each them easily. And the change is coming. A co-worker said that she had Amish friends, and the girls would change into "English" clothing in school, some of the more daring would even wear makeup. Then after school, it was back to the approved dresses. Just imagine - hot Amish chicks in miniskirts! Oops - my bad.
Just this summer, I've seen Amish men driving cars, I saw an Amish woman Checking out a minivan to buy. I've seen multiple Aish with smartphones. That's sort of jarring to se a guy in traditional garb checking his text messages. In a few decades, they will mostly be as bad of heathens as the rest of us.
The Ogre philosopher Gnerdel believed the purpose of life was to live as high on the food chain as possible. She refused to eat vegetarians, preferring to live entirely on creatures that preyed on sentient beings.
Grendel? Although Gnerdel has a kind of geeky elegance.
Fan the flames of Class Warfare!
We knew you could!
1996 called, They said that was getting hackneyed even back then.