Go on, do the math. And by that I mean the full chain, for both. Getting the fuel, transporting it, storing it, and so on, and so forth. It does happen that if you do that, the "green" suddenly isn't so green any longer.
[citation needed]
This is all hard to follow, but I take it that AC is trying to say that the transport and storage of fuels to be used for EV somehow make them less green than the transport and storage of fuels, then burning them in vehicles designed to burn those fuels?
Well, if that is the case, we always have to remember that the electrics tend to get pretty good MPGe. the Nissan Leaf gets an equivalent 112 mpg https://www.autobytel.com/top-...
In addition, we can charge the EV via a home solar system, negating the transport and storage issue altogether. https://news.energysage.com/so...
But the way I like to look at it is let us assume instead of the present situation, Electric cars are dominant.
So someone comes along with this idea that we should all convert to internal combustion engines with all of their complexity, and install a nationwide system of trains and trucks to deliver fuel to neighborhood refueling stations - to create an infrastructure of an immense amount of transport of flammable materials.
All this to replace plugging our vehicles into an electric outlet. All to replace a multiplicity of energy sources. Solar/wind/nuc/coal/hydro can produce the energy for EVs; with a very specific energy source of petrofuel - with a very minor ethanol component.
Whoever came up with that idea would be laughed out of town.
Yet we have people defending that very system as somehow superior.
The funny thing about rote, even for maths, is that kids with the propensity to be creative will think of creative ways to make the rote learning interesting. They'll find their own patterns and tricks. You can't test for that, and sometimes will act as a punishment for getting something wrong.
Somewhere along the line, students need to be taught that there are levels of math. The level of a person who wants to become a mathematician, and the level of the person who wants to use whatever math they need to solve a problem.
Note I am using the term math as an all encompassing thing.
It's easy to say critical thinking should be taught. But how? Just like everything else, it ends up being taught to some test. Of course, those kids who do think critically will see through the absolutely non-critically thought-out education system.
Some people are natural critical thinkers. What I see as the problem is that in altogether too many schools, critical thinking is discouraged. So getting rid of that is a pretty good start.
Kids learn by example, and I fear the uncritical, uncreative, adults around them are teaching them to be the same by example.
Well sorta. Kids can easily be jackasses like the rest of us.
Well, there are math teachers in the US that get payed to show up in TV commercials to tell parents that kids should never learn any math - tricks but only text book math like "in this book"... holding up a school book.
I saw videos about that but don't remember the details.
As if that would make the book they promote any better.
The issue with math is that students should be allowed to learn in the manner that they are capable of learning. My Eureka moment was when I was in the very last class in our district that learned how to use slide rules. Looking at the shiny bamboo doodad in my hands, then performing my first simple calculation, something clicked - almost painfully hard.
Best term I could come up with to describe it is "mathemechanical", and I now do a lot of calculations in my head, using that process.
I cant watch the video right now - I'm at breakfast - but the comments make me smile - they sound like what my thoughts were after I discovered my trick. I'll make certain to watch it when I get home.
Funny, one of the things I've noticed about parents who don't understand common core math is that they don't tend to actually understand the logical process of how to acquire an answer.
Well, what is your definition of "don't understand". It isn't that I don't understand it, it merely makes something that is simple a lot more complex.
All the students I've worked with that understood common core could do much more advanced math (like pre-calc in 6th grade) than even the honors student when I was in school. Common core is for understanding how and why. If you're not interested in that, then of course you won't like common core.
Well - if you are correct, we are raising the greatest generation of mathematicians ever.
Have you ever been through the education system? It's all about tests and exams. People love numbers, even if they don't mean anything. Nerds aren't immune from this kind of thinking, even though they think they're too smart to fall for the trap.
I guess it depends on the subject matter. Basic math is the sort of subject that does very well by rote. My son came home with common core math homework, and it was bullshit - making a very simple thing like addition and subtraction mind numbingly overcomplicated.
Problem solving has never been taught.
Critical thinking and reality based personal finances would be good as well.
Nawh. They're just using SJW script #3 this morning.
And in a celebration of SJW Christmas, here are the lyrics to banned song "Baby, Its cold outside:
I really can't stay - Baby it's cold outside
I've got to go away - Baby it's cold outside
This evening has been - Been hoping that you'd drop in
So very nice - I'll hold your hands, they're just like ice
My mother will start to worry - Beautiful, what's your hurry?
Father will be pacing the floor - Listen to the fireplace roar
So really I'd better scurry - Beautiful, please don't hurry
Maybe just a half a drink more - Put some records on while I pour
The neighbors might think - Baby, it's bad out there
Say, what's in this drink? - No cabs to be had out there
I wish I knew how - Your eyes are like starlight now
To break this spell - I'll take your hat, your hair looks swell
I ought to say no, no, no - Mind if I move in closer?
At least I'm gonna say that I tried - What's the sense in hurting my pride?
I really can't stay - Baby don't hold out
Ah, but it's cold outside
I've got to get home - Oh, baby, you'll freeze out there
Say, lend me your coat - It's up to your knees out there
You've really been grand - Thrill when you touch my hand
Why don't you see - How can you do this thing to me?
There's bound to be talk tomorrow - Think of my life long sorrow
At least there will be plenty implied - If you caught pneumonia and died
I really can't stay - Get over that hold out
Ah, but it's cold outside
Oh, baby, it's cold outside
Oh, baby, it's cold outside
Meanwhile, social Justive Warrior Beyonce, makes SJW acceptable lyrics, from "Formation"
When he fuck me good I take his ass to Red Lobster, 'cause I slay
When he fuck me good I take his ass to Red Lobster, 'cause I slay
If he hit it right, I might take him on a flight on my chopper, 'cause I slay
Drop him off at the mall, let him buy some J's, let him shop up, 'cause I slay.
The snowball earth hypothesis was independently formed by scientists at Kings College some time ago. It would be interesting to compare those sources with theirs.
There is quite a long span of time separating the two events.
It wasn't author of the CoC's email address that was used for the DNS records, it was the site owner.
You are correct. That summary is just plain wrong.
I am a victim of assuming that there would be some relation between the site referenced and the Slashdot summary. But I should know better.
Mike McLagan is the administrator of Linux.org. not the owner as described in the summary.
Michelle McLagan is the owner of Linux.org. Not mentioned anywhere in the summary.
She - although unnamed - is called "his partner" in the summary. Whether this means Significant Other type partner or business partner is not immediately clear. Doesn't matter much, but another example of garbled writing.
But yes, the creator of the CoC is one Coraline Ehmke. Who is trying to get rid of meritocracy which she considers misogynist, and replacing it with credentials based on "humanity."
I was definitely incorrect, except that I stand by my assertion that a Yahoo email address is in itself a security risk. Mea culpas all around.
Running a number of Sigs, my experience is that if someone is hacked, the odds that they are using a Yahoo email account is pretty overwhelming.
It does say something that the creator of Linux's Code of Conduct is using a Yahoo email address. That is the realm of the computer inept, the land of passwords like password1, or 1234567.
It's inevitable. As the open runtime of the web becomes better and better, it will take over everything else. MSIE, Real video, ActiveX, Flash, they all died because of this unstoppable train. And everything else will die too, including all native apps..
Were you they guy who got my company to switch over to IE6 apps? You sound very familiar.
And just think, in another hundred million years there will likely be little trace humanity was ever here, beyond perhaps a teeny tiny couple meters thick layer far deep down in the earths crust with an oddly off-average ratio of carbon and a less than average redistribution of potassium, sodium, and a small handful of other radioactive decay by products.
Hopefully we can get ourselves that RAID upgrade on the galactic scale before then!
Exactly. Almost every species on earth has gone extinct, and humans are not likely to be the exception. The question is whether it happens via disaster, ot whether we do it to ourselves. My money is that at some point, our hyper agressivness and our tendency toward irrational behavior will have us gleefully pushing the buttons that ends it all for us.
Oh yes. Rapid warming, rapid cooling. Or slow versions of each. There have been some very interesting times in earth's past.
Want some interesting reading? DDG "snowball earth" hypothesis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Note that is at the hypothesis stage - as we go further back, it takes a lot more work to figure out what exactly happened.
I remember reading that the Great Dying was triggered by methane-producing bacteria. The theory said that their methane-producing metabolic cycle was a new development. But the mentioned lack of oxygen in the oceans would give a big rise to such bacteria anyway.
I used to have a policy to go to a good restaurant for agood steak and bottle of red every time a spike in alarmist reports hit.
It is strange the things that some folks consider alarmist. This is merely a conjunction of physics, geology, chemistry and a few other sciences. Odd that people such as yourself find it alarmist, while people like myself find it enjoyable, like fitting together pieces of a jigsaw puzzle as the different disciplines intertwine.
Not to mention, we wouldn't be here if it hadn't happened
Relax and enjoy that bottle of red, You don't need any reason other than being here.
You're making that lifestyle out to be waaayyyy harder then it is in a modern society. It's actually very easy to be a reasonably nutritionally fit vegan in modern society. If you pay a bit of attention to the food you buy then you can be nutritionally sound fairly easily. Really this is true for anyone of any diet. On the other hand there are plenty of people in the first world who eat meat who are nutritionally deficient.
Vitamin B12 is one issue. Especially for Pregnant vegans. It is considered critical that a pregnant vegan consult and work with a healthccare specialist - especially since the vegan doiet is often heavy in floats, which mask a B-12 deficiency , often until severe symptoms show up. Infants born can have physical issues even if the vegan mother does not.
Calcium. Vegans have a 30 percent higher bone fracture risk. Supplements are critical.
Vitamin D. Dont get enough vitamin D and the critical Calcium and protein will not be absorbed Suplements are critical.
Omega 3 fatty acids are deficient in vegans. Plant based Omega 3 conversion is inefficient compared to fish based - Vegans must take a lot of these sources and supplements
Iodine deficiency - Like goiter? In addition to a lack of iodine, excessive consumption of vegetables like sweet potatos or Cauliflour or broccoli can cause goiter if Iodine levels are not high enough - Supplements or mandatory seaweed consumption is indicated. Pregnant women with iodine shortage can produce babies with cretinism.
Iron zinc, protein are also issues The Mayo Clinic states that recommended iron intake must be almost twice that of a normal diet. As well, males who want to become vegan must be checked for hemochromatosis to avoid liver failure or diabetes mellitus before doubling their iron intake.
This is not shit I made up. So anything you wish to refute, have at it.
Point is, you can get adequate nutrition on a vegetarian diet. You cannot on a vegan diet without lots of supplements, and with very well outlined and specific health risks to the vegan and their offspring. Veganism is simply an unnatural and potentially dangerous diet.
Come on Ol, taking it to an absurd extreme and then whataboutism?
Negative. I am in no way trying to accuse you or any other Western feminist of being a hypocrite. Merely that we belong to nature, not the other way around, and that modern feminism is not being hypocritical, that it merely has a different agenda than what is stated. That is not hypocrisy. That means that for some reason modern feminists accept a lot of terrible mistreatment of women, while worrying about Gender in description of non-living things. That is completely bizzare to me. If there is a logical explanation for that - I would love to hear it.
An agenda other than a stated one isn't applicable to whataboutism, merely something hidden.
Yeah, but we aren't in natural conditions. Appealing to the nature of prehistoric mankind as justification for behaviour today isn't a very compelling argument.
You sound like the people who accidentally kill their cats because they force them to be vegan. Because you don't need to pay any attention to nature, amirite? It's not compelling.
And you slippery sloped me there. It is pretty obvious that we aren't in hunter gatherer mode any more for the most part.
But I say that there are women in parts of the world who are being horribly mistreated, while the west is losing thier shit because of abysmally stupid things like the gender of inanimate objects. Forced clitorectomy, burying in dirt up to their head and stoned to death for petty infractions or beheaded. Acid thrown in their faces. Forced prepubescent marriages to old men.
And that is exactly why I consider 3rd wave feminism more of deep seated hatred against western society than any actual attempt to improve the lot of women in the world. It isn't hypocrisy, its pure hatred, an attack on minescule things, while ignoring real and present criminality.
Why is it I bring up genuine harm being done to women, while the Feminists in here are busy tidying up their little corner, making certain that nothing bothers them - except here? The incredible crime of assigning non gender translations to things. Teach me. This is so obvious to me that I must be completely off base and wrong - stupid in fact. Explain why one garners mass attention while the other hardly gets mentioned.
It's also a bit misandrist in that it seems to imply that women are more deserving of or perhaps more inherently precious and valuable and cherished.
It is not remotely misandrist to understand that women are more valuable. In natural conditions, where survival is paramount, one woman is worth dozens of men - whihc means the woman stays alive, but resource management means the surplus men are either culled or cast out.
In extremis, I understand that I will be terminated long before a female. That's just how it is.
Which is all the stranger in these strange times, that a large number of females wish to emulate the weaker of the 2 sexes.
Meanwhile the gender free anthem: The personperson brought me person, and placed it in the personperson.
Anyone care to translate that into patriarchal misogynist text?
tl;dr Women in Africa are undergoing forced clitorectomy, while here in the west, outrage springs from the "gender" of an object. Not a real comparison or whataboutism, just a reflection of how silly humanity is, and our fucked up priorities.
In order to navigate my neighborhood, the drone would have to duck and weave like a drunken sailor - unless at street level.
The ducking and weaving would still be much easier to program into an autonomous flying machine, than programming pedestrian-avoidance and traffic-sign observance into a surface vehicle.
So what is your recommendation. Seriously, you are telling me about the conditions in a place that you don't live. The maximum height the drone could fly is about thye height of an 18 wheeler. Even they contact trees. This is a real problem. Amazon is looking for you to be the new head of the department that will send these drones into the woods without problem.
So Amazon's drones would have to fly at street level with the cars.
Why can't they fly above the trees — only descending to the street level when reaching the target address?
You enter a forest at the edge of a forest. Google's images of our neighborhood are taken in the winter, because you don't see the houses, and not many streets either. This is a serious forest.
"Regulatory problems" is the key reason — current regulations prohibit operating drones outside of the operator's line of sight...
For certain. A drone coming through our development better have really good vision. Trees and branches up to around 100 feet.
I don't fly my drone here because the times that I did, it crashed. In order to navigate my neighborhood, the drone would have to duck and weave like a drunken sailor - unless at street level.
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Your assertiond to the contrary require your own set of citations.
No, they do not, because his assertions are the ones that run contrary to well-established fact.
Alternative facts are all the rage.
Go on, do the math. And by that I mean the full chain, for both. Getting the fuel, transporting it, storing it, and so on, and so forth. It does happen that if you do that, the "green" suddenly isn't so green any longer.
[citation needed]
This is all hard to follow, but I take it that AC is trying to say that the transport and storage of fuels to be used for EV somehow make them less green than the transport and storage of fuels, then burning them in vehicles designed to burn those fuels?
Well, if that is the case, we always have to remember that the electrics tend to get pretty good MPGe. the Nissan Leaf gets an equivalent 112 mpg https://www.autobytel.com/top-...
In addition, we can charge the EV via a home solar system, negating the transport and storage issue altogether. https://news.energysage.com/so...
But the way I like to look at it is let us assume instead of the present situation, Electric cars are dominant.
So someone comes along with this idea that we should all convert to internal combustion engines with all of their complexity, and install a nationwide system of trains and trucks to deliver fuel to neighborhood refueling stations - to create an infrastructure of an immense amount of transport of flammable materials.
All this to replace plugging our vehicles into an electric outlet. All to replace a multiplicity of energy sources. Solar/wind/nuc/coal/hydro can produce the energy for EVs; with a very specific energy source of petrofuel - with a very minor ethanol component.
Whoever came up with that idea would be laughed out of town.
Yet we have people defending that very system as somehow superior.
The funny thing about rote, even for maths, is that kids with the propensity to be creative will think of creative ways to make the rote learning interesting. They'll find their own patterns and tricks. You can't test for that, and sometimes will act as a punishment for getting something wrong.
Somewhere along the line, students need to be taught that there are levels of math. The level of a person who wants to become a mathematician, and the level of the person who wants to use whatever math they need to solve a problem.
Note I am using the term math as an all encompassing thing.
It's easy to say critical thinking should be taught. But how? Just like everything else, it ends up being taught to some test. Of course, those kids who do think critically will see through the absolutely non-critically thought-out education system.
Some people are natural critical thinkers. What I see as the problem is that in altogether too many schools, critical thinking is discouraged. So getting rid of that is a pretty good start.
Kids learn by example, and I fear the uncritical, uncreative, adults around them are teaching them to be the same by example.
Well sorta. Kids can easily be jackasses like the rest of us.
Well, there are math teachers in the US that get payed to show up in TV commercials to tell parents that kids should never learn any math - tricks but only text book math like "in this book" ... holding up a school book.
I saw videos about that but don't remember the details.
Bottom line teachers show up in advertisements to go against math tricks like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
As if that would make the book they promote any better.
The issue with math is that students should be allowed to learn in the manner that they are capable of learning. My Eureka moment was when I was in the very last class in our district that learned how to use slide rules. Looking at the shiny bamboo doodad in my hands, then performing my first simple calculation, something clicked - almost painfully hard.
Best term I could come up with to describe it is "mathemechanical", and I now do a lot of calculations in my head, using that process.
I cant watch the video right now - I'm at breakfast - but the comments make me smile - they sound like what my thoughts were after I discovered my trick. I'll make certain to watch it when I get home.
Funny, one of the things I've noticed about parents who don't understand common core math is that they don't tend to actually understand the logical process of how to acquire an answer.
Well, what is your definition of "don't understand". It isn't that I don't understand it, it merely makes something that is simple a lot more complex.
All the students I've worked with that understood common core could do much more advanced math (like pre-calc in 6th grade) than even the honors student when I was in school. Common core is for understanding how and why. If you're not interested in that, then of course you won't like common core.
Well - if you are correct, we are raising the greatest generation of mathematicians ever.
Have you ever been through the education system? It's all about tests and exams. People love numbers, even if they don't mean anything. Nerds aren't immune from this kind of thinking, even though they think they're too smart to fall for the trap.
I guess it depends on the subject matter. Basic math is the sort of subject that does very well by rote. My son came home with common core math homework, and it was bullshit - making a very simple thing like addition and subtraction mind numbingly overcomplicated.
Problem solving has never been taught.
Critical thinking and reality based personal finances would be good as well.
Nawh. They're just using SJW script #3 this morning.
And in a celebration of SJW Christmas, here are the lyrics to banned song "Baby, Its cold outside:
I really can't stay - Baby it's cold outside I've got to go away - Baby it's cold outside This evening has been - Been hoping that you'd drop in So very nice - I'll hold your hands, they're just like ice
My mother will start to worry - Beautiful, what's your hurry? Father will be pacing the floor - Listen to the fireplace roar So really I'd better scurry - Beautiful, please don't hurry Maybe just a half a drink more - Put some records on while I pour
The neighbors might think - Baby, it's bad out there Say, what's in this drink? - No cabs to be had out there I wish I knew how - Your eyes are like starlight now To break this spell - I'll take your hat, your hair looks swell
I ought to say no, no, no - Mind if I move in closer? At least I'm gonna say that I tried - What's the sense in hurting my pride? I really can't stay - Baby don't hold out Ah, but it's cold outside
I've got to get home - Oh, baby, you'll freeze out there Say, lend me your coat - It's up to your knees out there You've really been grand - Thrill when you touch my hand Why don't you see - How can you do this thing to me?
There's bound to be talk tomorrow - Think of my life long sorrow At least there will be plenty implied - If you caught pneumonia and died I really can't stay - Get over that hold out Ah, but it's cold outside Oh, baby, it's cold outside Oh, baby, it's cold outside
Meanwhile, social Justive Warrior Beyonce, makes SJW acceptable lyrics, from "Formation"
When he fuck me good I take his ass to Red Lobster, 'cause I slay When he fuck me good I take his ass to Red Lobster, 'cause I slay If he hit it right, I might take him on a flight on my chopper, 'cause I slay Drop him off at the mall, let him buy some J's, let him shop up, 'cause I slay.
Which lyrics would we read our children?
The snowball earth hypothesis was independently formed by scientists at Kings College some time ago. It would be interesting to compare those sources with theirs.
There is quite a long span of time separating the two events.
Regardless, pretty interesting stuff.
It wasn't author of the CoC's email address that was used for the DNS records, it was the site owner.
You are correct. That summary is just plain wrong.
I am a victim of assuming that there would be some relation between the site referenced and the Slashdot summary. But I should know better.
Mike McLagan is the administrator of Linux.org. not the owner as described in the summary.
Michelle McLagan is the owner of Linux.org. Not mentioned anywhere in the summary.
She - although unnamed - is called "his partner" in the summary. Whether this means Significant Other type partner or business partner is not immediately clear. Doesn't matter much, but another example of garbled writing.
But yes, the creator of the CoC is one Coraline Ehmke. Who is trying to get rid of meritocracy which she considers misogynist, and replacing it with credentials based on "humanity."
I was definitely incorrect, except that I stand by my assertion that a Yahoo email address is in itself a security risk. Mea culpas all around.
And don't forget that today's various deplorables may define "unhealthy"
Did someone sneak some acid in your Redbull this morning?
Yahoo Hotmail Gmail
Which one really is safer?
Running a number of Sigs, my experience is that if someone is hacked, the odds that they are using a Yahoo email account is pretty overwhelming.
It does say something that the creator of Linux's Code of Conduct is using a Yahoo email address. That is the realm of the computer inept, the land of passwords like password1, or 1234567.
It's inevitable. As the open runtime of the web becomes better and better, it will take over everything else. MSIE, Real video, ActiveX, Flash, they all died because of this unstoppable train. And everything else will die too, including all native apps..
Were you they guy who got my company to switch over to IE6 apps? You sound very familiar.
And just think, in another hundred million years there will likely be little trace humanity was ever here, beyond perhaps a teeny tiny couple meters thick layer far deep down in the earths crust with an oddly off-average ratio of carbon and a less than average redistribution of potassium, sodium, and a small handful of other radioactive decay by products.
Hopefully we can get ourselves that RAID upgrade on the galactic scale before then!
Exactly. Almost every species on earth has gone extinct, and humans are not likely to be the exception. The question is whether it happens via disaster, ot whether we do it to ourselves. My money is that at some point, our hyper agressivness and our tendency toward irrational behavior will have us gleefully pushing the buttons that ends it all for us.
So rapid warming has happened before?
Oh yes. Rapid warming, rapid cooling. Or slow versions of each. There have been some very interesting times in earth's past.
Want some interesting reading? DDG "snowball earth" hypothesis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Note that is at the hypothesis stage - as we go further back, it takes a lot more work to figure out what exactly happened.
I remember reading that the Great Dying was triggered by methane-producing bacteria. The theory said that their methane-producing metabolic cycle was a new development. But the mentioned lack of oxygen in the oceans would give a big rise to such bacteria anyway.
The massive fart hypothesis.
I used to have a policy to go to a good restaurant for agood steak and bottle of red every time a spike in alarmist reports hit.
It is strange the things that some folks consider alarmist. This is merely a conjunction of physics, geology, chemistry and a few other sciences. Odd that people such as yourself find it alarmist, while people like myself find it enjoyable, like fitting together pieces of a jigsaw puzzle as the different disciplines intertwine.
Not to mention, we wouldn't be here if it hadn't happened
Relax and enjoy that bottle of red, You don't need any reason other than being here.
No, it means we should act smarter than rocks. Are we men, or are we menhirs?
Finally, someone's thinking about the orthostats!
Mass extinctions often occur at such changeovers. Be extra careful around these times, and check your insurance is valid.
Fear not citizen, for we no longer need fear these things. A vote was taken, and we have mandated that temperatures remain stable.
You're making that lifestyle out to be waaayyyy harder then it is in a modern society. It's actually very easy to be a reasonably nutritionally fit vegan in modern society. If you pay a bit of attention to the food you buy then you can be nutritionally sound fairly easily. Really this is true for anyone of any diet. On the other hand there are plenty of people in the first world who eat meat who are nutritionally deficient.
Vitamin B12 is one issue. Especially for Pregnant vegans. It is considered critical that a pregnant vegan consult and work with a healthccare specialist - especially since the vegan doiet is often heavy in floats, which mask a B-12 deficiency , often until severe symptoms show up. Infants born can have physical issues even if the vegan mother does not.
Calcium. Vegans have a 30 percent higher bone fracture risk. Supplements are critical.
Vitamin D. Dont get enough vitamin D and the critical Calcium and protein will not be absorbed Suplements are critical.
Omega 3 fatty acids are deficient in vegans. Plant based Omega 3 conversion is inefficient compared to fish based - Vegans must take a lot of these sources and supplements
Iodine deficiency - Like goiter? In addition to a lack of iodine, excessive consumption of vegetables like sweet potatos or Cauliflour or broccoli can cause goiter if Iodine levels are not high enough - Supplements or mandatory seaweed consumption is indicated. Pregnant women with iodine shortage can produce babies with cretinism.
Iron zinc, protein are also issues The Mayo Clinic states that recommended iron intake must be almost twice that of a normal diet. As well, males who want to become vegan must be checked for hemochromatosis to avoid liver failure or diabetes mellitus before doubling their iron intake. This is not shit I made up. So anything you wish to refute, have at it.
Point is, you can get adequate nutrition on a vegetarian diet. You cannot on a vegan diet without lots of supplements, and with very well outlined and specific health risks to the vegan and their offspring. Veganism is simply an unnatural and potentially dangerous diet.
Come on Ol, taking it to an absurd extreme and then whataboutism?
Negative. I am in no way trying to accuse you or any other Western feminist of being a hypocrite. Merely that we belong to nature, not the other way around, and that modern feminism is not being hypocritical, that it merely has a different agenda than what is stated. That is not hypocrisy. That means that for some reason modern feminists accept a lot of terrible mistreatment of women, while worrying about Gender in description of non-living things. That is completely bizzare to me. If there is a logical explanation for that - I would love to hear it.
An agenda other than a stated one isn't applicable to whataboutism, merely something hidden.
In natural conditions
Yeah, but we aren't in natural conditions. Appealing to the nature of prehistoric mankind as justification for behaviour today isn't a very compelling argument.
You sound like the people who accidentally kill their cats because they force them to be vegan. Because you don't need to pay any attention to nature, amirite? It's not compelling.
And you slippery sloped me there. It is pretty obvious that we aren't in hunter gatherer mode any more for the most part.
But I say that there are women in parts of the world who are being horribly mistreated, while the west is losing thier shit because of abysmally stupid things like the gender of inanimate objects. Forced clitorectomy, burying in dirt up to their head and stoned to death for petty infractions or beheaded. Acid thrown in their faces. Forced prepubescent marriages to old men.
And that is exactly why I consider 3rd wave feminism more of deep seated hatred against western society than any actual attempt to improve the lot of women in the world. It isn't hypocrisy, its pure hatred, an attack on minescule things, while ignoring real and present criminality. Why is it I bring up genuine harm being done to women, while the Feminists in here are busy tidying up their little corner, making certain that nothing bothers them - except here? The incredible crime of assigning non gender translations to things. Teach me. This is so obvious to me that I must be completely off base and wrong - stupid in fact. Explain why one garners mass attention while the other hardly gets mentioned.
It's also a bit misandrist in that it seems to imply that women are more deserving of or perhaps more inherently precious and valuable and cherished.
It is not remotely misandrist to understand that women are more valuable. In natural conditions, where survival is paramount, one woman is worth dozens of men - whihc means the woman stays alive, but resource management means the surplus men are either culled or cast out.
In extremis, I understand that I will be terminated long before a female. That's just how it is.
Which is all the stranger in these strange times, that a large number of females wish to emulate the weaker of the 2 sexes.
Meanwhile the gender free anthem: The personperson brought me person, and placed it in the personperson.
Anyone care to translate that into patriarchal misogynist text?
tl;dr Women in Africa are undergoing forced clitorectomy, while here in the west, outrage springs from the "gender" of an object. Not a real comparison or whataboutism, just a reflection of how silly humanity is, and our fucked up priorities.
The ducking and weaving would still be much easier to program into an autonomous flying machine, than programming pedestrian-avoidance and traffic-sign observance into a surface vehicle.
So what is your recommendation. Seriously, you are telling me about the conditions in a place that you don't live. The maximum height the drone could fly is about thye height of an 18 wheeler. Even they contact trees. This is a real problem. Amazon is looking for you to be the new head of the department that will send these drones into the woods without problem.
Ahh the good old days when those promises actually held true.
Except for Chad at the club.
Why can't they fly above the trees — only descending to the street level when reaching the target address?
You enter a forest at the edge of a forest. Google's images of our neighborhood are taken in the winter, because you don't see the houses, and not many streets either. This is a serious forest.
"Regulatory problems" is the key reason — current regulations prohibit operating drones outside of the operator's line of sight...
For certain. A drone coming through our development better have really good vision. Trees and branches up to around 100 feet.
I don't fly my drone here because the times that I did, it crashed. In order to navigate my neighborhood, the drone would have to duck and weave like a drunken sailor - unless at street level.