But now that the whole scheme's been uncovered, it was all her, alone, the whole time. Bad, bad apple.
Wink, wink;^)
What amazes me is the stupidity of these people. Aside from her giving them the results they wanted most or all of the time, there were some mathematical issues of the number of tests she was doing.
It was inevitable they would get caught.
And she was stupid enough to think that when exposed, that she wouldn't be the first person thrown under the bus.
There is an alternative outlet for that battery crankiness. Target that crankiness at government. Why is the government not doing more to drive battery research, solar panel research and wind turbine research.
The political environment - at least in America, simply isn't conducive to that.
When Solyndra went belly up, the far right went nuts about it.
Mind you, this isn't specifically about Republican versus Democrat, just that one of those groups really really really hates subsidies - except for their own. Here is an example so perfect, it's hard to imagine:
http://www.washingtonexaminer....
TL;DR version. While ubsidies to sugar producers continued, and the crop insurance program also expanded. They voted for that,
Food stamps? sorry, that's bad. Removed.
I'd even make some arguments against some aspects of the food stamp program.
But subsidies for sugar growers? And why should my taxpayer dollars go to some millionaire farmer so he never takes a loss (note, some members of the group that voted for that pulled more than 7 million dollars from their vote.
No - your crankiness is a problem. It seems you think there is some sort of damage being done by reportage of new technology, unless it's already commercialized. It doesn't hurt anything. These batteries, as I see it, are using lithium hydroxide insted of lithium peroxide. Sounds interesting.
They even note that there are problems with charging/recharging the things as they exist today/
Regardless, I've visited the sites, and done some reearch online. Seems interesting. Been learning some stuff. I know more now than I did before I read the story.
But hey - go ahead and be pissed at the story, and call the battery a sure failure based on some made up odds. . It's the first step to crawling into the bubble.
Any government subsidies to the electric car industry pale in comparison to those of the petroleum industry. Not to mention the ICE auto manufacturers who DID go bankrupt, and were already bailed out by the government. Do you have any citation for Tesla about to go bankrupt?
It's like every other fake outrage for the self righteous, like BENGHAZI! where the hypocrtites get outraged over something that when they do it - its different, and its just fine.
You hate electrical cars? - the subsides for them are socialist, communist, atheist, gay marriage enabling hogwash, and the road to perfidy. You like your GMC Savana 3500? Then Oil subsidies are magically turned into laissez faire capitalism, and blessed by the invisible hand of the free market - Just like it says in the old Testament.
No, it's huge government subsidies propping them up or rolling disasters like tesla that are about to go bankrupt. That's why they don't work. Not some delusion that particular political parties are 'deniers'
"Three years later, the state of Massachusetts still can't figure out how to repair the damage she wrought almost single-handedly.
Single handedly? sorry, she was considered the Go-To Person to test your samples by many DA's in Mass.
It's ludicrous to think that any person can be the go-to person unless they deliver the results you want - which is a conviction - even if it's forged. DA's are elected, and have you ever seen one that wasn't "Tough on Crime". or bragged about their conviction rate in their election campaigns?
I wish we had a battery breakthrough for every HUNDRED articles we get on it.
What gets me is that Li-ion, NiMH, NiCd, etc. I heard precisely NOTHING off before I'd bought a product that contained them or they were on the shelves of my local electrical store.
So tell me, you pissed off at every science and technology report out there?
I mean seriously = what the hell pisses you off so much about news of a possibility?
FTA - Scientists have created a battery whose technology in principle could power electric cars and other energy-hungry devices far better than current lithium-ion batteries, but it remains years away from commercial use.
What a bunch of jerks, eh?
Or do you just want us to protect your precious temper from all news, and wake you up when it's been in cars for ten years,
If you didn't have the memory of a goldfish you would have noticed that only a few of the many battery improvements written about ten years ago have made it to market at all.
Let me guess - you hate EV's. Friends and I have a wager about the EV denialist's last reason that they are an "utter failure".
Native Americans were responsible for the extinction of nearly every mega fauna (that would be real big land animals) in North America.
That's because they are human, and like all humans throughout time, we do a damn good job of making other creatures extinct, which probably extends to all the other homo species, of which we are the only one left. Your point could be true, but means exactly nothing but pointing out human nature. We kill, Killing might be what we live for, or at least we act like it.
Okay, let's be honest here. While it's clear that the colonizing powers had a reckless disregard for the wellbeing of the native population, your smallpox blanket claim makes you sound like a lunatic.
i'm skeptical of the human motivations and methodology of those wanting to CONTROL large portions of the economy, under the guise of Climate (what ever they call it today).
I'm skeptical of the pecuniary motivation of those who will profit - and thereby control large portions of the economy, by the continuation of present practices, and who employ Tobacco insustry and creationist tactics to do so.
Compare the number of car recalls to the number of critical patches for software..
Compare the intertooze to the same amount of time that autos were on the road. I'd say car tech around 1905 or so (depending when you considered commercial autos were commercial)
Regardless, We've had autos well over a hundred years now, Internet software and personal computers for much less time.
If the vendor has not managed to produce a properly written, secure, bug free piece of software by the 10th attempt, what faith should one have in the 11th..
But I don't get it. The main arguments I hear against gun control is Regulations! Communism! etc...
If you can agree the regulation of drones makes sense, how can you not see the same argument for some form of weapon regulation?
Not certain where you are going with this. I don't think my little Parrot drone should be registered at all. Guns? I have no problem registering mine. Using lethal force is a lot easier with a rifle than it is with a parrot drone.
My point is the fearful crowd who want their gun ownership to be some sort of secret, probably because of fears that they may be the only thing standing between...... nah, just plain old fear, are fearful of the drones as well.
I do know that engaging people in any discussion of a weaponized drone and it's implications related to the second amendment is well nigh impossible.
I'll have to stand by and see what this development entails. I love my "Breakfast Chromebook" which I use when going out to eat in the morning. My Android tablet? It's a toy. Melding the two, I sure hope it's a lot more Chrome, than Droid.
So they support the regulation of weapons? Interesting...
No, they don't want drones to be allowed at all. Banned.
And if you want to see something funny, watch their faces when I bring up weaponized drones. Apoplexy, as it's called. Cognitive dissonance personified.
So we would be adding extra energy to the Earth, energy which would degrade with use to, you guessed it, heat.
This reminded me of Aruther Clarke's space Odyssey series, in the last one, he speaks of the ramifications of some of th eassumptions he made.
One of them was that zero point energy was real and useable.
THe immmedite result was that the captured energy due to inefficiencies in the device es using it, would create a "heat crisis" Capturing and sending Energy fmor space that would not normally have entered the lower atmosphere might have a similar though smaller effect.
It's less "Hah, you fuckers don't deserve a start menu because we elite assholes don't think you should have one" and more "Wait, what? People are still using that? WTF? Well...I guess they can learn to use search right? What do you mean they're refusing to use search?"
People can learn much. This subthread is largely related to the mess that Windows 8XX was, and there was so much messed up there, it was a lot more than just the search vs start menu. But yeah, if some folks don't want to use search, you just won't stop 'em.
So.... You are claiming that "EVENTUALLY" EVs will be viable.... Maybe so...
However, they are not viable for a lot of folks now.
Do you actually have a point? Exactly which vehicle is viable for 100 percent of people?
I have a motorcycle. It is not viable for a lot of people/ So in your view, should motorcycles not be available?
I have a 4WD Jeep. It's awesome off road, but you might not want to take it across country on the interstate. So not viable for everyone - Let's call them and rtell them they aren't allowed to sell them any more, becausee they aren' viable for everyone.
I have an RV so lets - oh hell, you know.
The argument of universal viability or even majority viability means absolutely nothing.
But all that aside, I'm pretty certain that EV's will bercome more and more popular, as range increases, and infrastructure improves.
My answers to all of your questions is that there is not one single technological impediment to having charging ports in any parking lot with lights, or parking meters. If you dispute that, take it up with Alaska, If you dispute that apps can be used to pay for charging in parking lots, take that up with the folks who have payment systems in place for parking already. No technological impdiments, hell, it's even simple.
It will be a lot easier to buid this Infrastructure than the mess we have for shuttleing petrofuel around at present.
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My question is what temperature is the Earth supposed to be?
There is no temperature that it is supposed to be.
It is probably in our best interests that the climates we live in are compatible with us.
But now that the whole scheme's been uncovered, it was all her, alone, the whole time. Bad, bad apple.
Wink, wink ;^)
What amazes me is the stupidity of these people. Aside from her giving them the results they wanted most or all of the time, there were some mathematical issues of the number of tests she was doing.
It was inevitable they would get caught.
And she was stupid enough to think that when exposed, that she wouldn't be the first person thrown under the bus.
What if I buy a Prime-capable device, but I'm not a Prime customers. Won't I be confused?
Too late.
There is an alternative outlet for that battery crankiness. Target that crankiness at government. Why is the government not doing more to drive battery research, solar panel research and wind turbine research.
The political environment - at least in America, simply isn't conducive to that.
When Solyndra went belly up, the far right went nuts about it.
Mind you, this isn't specifically about Republican versus Democrat, just that one of those groups really really really hates subsidies - except for their own. Here is an example so perfect, it's hard to imagine:
http://www.politico.com/story/...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.... TL;DR version. While ubsidies to sugar producers continued, and the crop insurance program also expanded. They voted for that,
Food stamps? sorry, that's bad. Removed.
I'd even make some arguments against some aspects of the food stamp program.
But subsidies for sugar growers? And why should my taxpayer dollars go to some millionaire farmer so he never takes a loss (note, some members of the group that voted for that pulled more than 7 million dollars from their vote.
Because NEWS is the problem.
No - your crankiness is a problem. It seems you think there is some sort of damage being done by reportage of new technology, unless it's already commercialized. It doesn't hurt anything. These batteries, as I see it, are using lithium hydroxide insted of lithium peroxide. Sounds interesting.
They even note that there are problems with charging/recharging the things as they exist today/
Regardless, I've visited the sites, and done some reearch online. Seems interesting. Been learning some stuff. I know more now than I did before I read the story.
But hey - go ahead and be pissed at the story, and call the battery a sure failure based on some made up odds. . It's the first step to crawling into the bubble.
Any government subsidies to the electric car industry pale in comparison to those of the petroleum industry. Not to mention the ICE auto manufacturers who DID go bankrupt, and were already bailed out by the government. Do you have any citation for Tesla about to go bankrupt?
It's like every other fake outrage for the self righteous, like BENGHAZI! where the hypocrtites get outraged over something that when they do it - its different, and its just fine.
You hate electrical cars? - the subsides for them are socialist, communist, atheist, gay marriage enabling hogwash, and the road to perfidy. You like your GMC Savana 3500? Then Oil subsidies are magically turned into laissez faire capitalism, and blessed by the invisible hand of the free market - Just like it says in the old Testament.
No, it's huge government subsidies propping them up or rolling disasters like tesla that are about to go bankrupt. That's why they don't work. Not some delusion that particular political parties are 'deniers'
So you're okay with oil industry subsidies?
Single handedly? sorry, she was considered the Go-To Person to test your samples by many DA's in Mass.
It's ludicrous to think that any person can be the go-to person unless they deliver the results you want - which is a conviction - even if it's forged. DA's are elected, and have you ever seen one that wasn't "Tough on Crime". or bragged about their conviction rate in their election campaigns?
They knew - they just didn't care.
Undiclosed name settled with undisclosed corporation for an undisclosed amount in a matter relating to an undisclosed situation.
I wish we had a battery breakthrough for every HUNDRED articles we get on it.
What gets me is that Li-ion, NiMH, NiCd, etc. I heard precisely NOTHING off before I'd bought a product that contained them or they were on the shelves of my local electrical store.
So tell me, you pissed off at every science and technology report out there?
I mean seriously = what the hell pisses you off so much about news of a possibility? FTA - Scientists have created a battery whose technology in principle could power electric cars and other energy-hungry devices far better than current lithium-ion batteries, but it remains years away from commercial use.
What a bunch of jerks, eh?
Or do you just want us to protect your precious temper from all news, and wake you up when it's been in cars for ten years,
If you didn't have the memory of a goldfish you would have noticed that only a few of the many battery improvements written about ten years ago have made it to market at all.
Let me guess - you hate EV's. Friends and I have a wager about the EV denialist's last reason that they are an "utter failure".
My money is on the color they are painted.
For one thing, megafauna disappeared worldwide at roughly the same time, .
It was that dentist that likes to shoot tame lions, I heard.
Native Americans were responsible for the extinction of nearly every mega fauna (that would be real big land animals) in North America.
That's because they are human, and like all humans throughout time, we do a damn good job of making other creatures extinct, which probably extends to all the other homo species, of which we are the only one left. Your point could be true, but means exactly nothing but pointing out human nature. We kill, Killing might be what we live for, or at least we act like it.
Okay, let's be honest here. While it's clear that the colonizing powers had a reckless disregard for the wellbeing of the native population, your smallpox blanket claim makes you sound like a lunatic.
It doe indeed sound like lunacy.
but......
http://www.nativeweb.org/pages...
http://www.straightdope.com/co...
The interesting thing is, This Lord Amherst? An Englishman , so if people want to blame da 'murricans, it was not. evil ol' us.
It was one of the superior Europeans, who do seem to have a particular desire to practice genocide, as proven throughout history.
i'm skeptical of the human motivations and methodology of those wanting to CONTROL large portions of the economy, under the guise of Climate (what ever they call it today).
I'm skeptical of the pecuniary motivation of those who will profit - and thereby control large portions of the economy, by the continuation of present practices, and who employ Tobacco insustry and creationist tactics to do so.
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/2...
So when a corporation lies about their research, is it your science boogiemen's fault?
I don't say that Exxon "sealed outr fate, only that it wasn't your fairy tale of evil AGW supporters.
Your move, science rejecting denialist.
Compare the number of car recalls to the number of critical patches for software..
Compare the intertooze to the same amount of time that autos were on the road. I'd say car tech around 1905 or so (depending when you considered commercial autos were commercial)
Regardless, We've had autos well over a hundred years now, Internet software and personal computers for much less time.
And cars are still recalled all the time.
If the vendor has not managed to produce a properly written, secure, bug free piece of software by the 10th attempt, what faith should one have in the 11th. .
Windows OS?
But I don't get it. The main arguments I hear against gun control is Regulations! Communism! etc... If you can agree the regulation of drones makes sense, how can you not see the same argument for some form of weapon regulation?
Not certain where you are going with this. I don't think my little Parrot drone should be registered at all. Guns? I have no problem registering mine. Using lethal force is a lot easier with a rifle than it is with a parrot drone.
My point is the fearful crowd who want their gun ownership to be some sort of secret, probably because of fears that they may be the only thing standing between...... nah, just plain old fear, are fearful of the drones as well.
I do know that engaging people in any discussion of a weaponized drone and it's implications related to the second amendment is well nigh impossible.
Which is not me.
I'll have to stand by and see what this development entails. I love my "Breakfast Chromebook" which I use when going out to eat in the morning. My Android tablet? It's a toy. Melding the two, I sure hope it's a lot more Chrome, than Droid.
It's just apple being apple.
Bitch won't even answer me when I ask her how much wood could a woodchuck chuck.
and are also against weaponized drones.
So they support the regulation of weapons? Interesting...
No, they don't want drones to be allowed at all. Banned.
And if you want to see something funny, watch their faces when I bring up weaponized drones. Apoplexy, as it's called. Cognitive dissonance personified.
So we would be adding extra energy to the Earth, energy which would degrade with use to, you guessed it, heat.
This reminded me of Aruther Clarke's space Odyssey series, in the last one, he speaks of the ramifications of some of th eassumptions he made.
One of them was that zero point energy was real and useable.
THe immmedite result was that the captured energy due to inefficiencies in the device es using it, would create a "heat crisis" Capturing and sending Energy fmor space that would not normally have entered the lower atmosphere might have a similar though smaller effect.
It's less "Hah, you fuckers don't deserve a start menu because we elite assholes don't think you should have one" and more "Wait, what? People are still using that? WTF? Well...I guess they can learn to use search right? What do you mean they're refusing to use search?"
People can learn much. This subthread is largely related to the mess that Windows 8XX was, and there was so much messed up there, it was a lot more than just the search vs start menu. But yeah, if some folks don't want to use search, you just won't stop 'em.
Grow up.
For the FSM said thusly, "Beware the Christian zealot, for they are unexcelled ad dishing it out, but woefully meager in taking it."
So.... You are claiming that "EVENTUALLY" EVs will be viable.... Maybe so...
However, they are not viable for a lot of folks now.
Do you actually have a point? Exactly which vehicle is viable for 100 percent of people?
I have a motorcycle. It is not viable for a lot of people/ So in your view, should motorcycles not be available?
I have a 4WD Jeep. It's awesome off road, but you might not want to take it across country on the interstate. So not viable for everyone - Let's call them and rtell them they aren't allowed to sell them any more, becausee they aren' viable for everyone.
I have an RV so lets - oh hell, you know.
The argument of universal viability or even majority viability means absolutely nothing.
But all that aside, I'm pretty certain that EV's will bercome more and more popular, as range increases, and infrastructure improves.
My answers to all of your questions is that there is not one single technological impediment to having charging ports in any parking lot with lights, or parking meters. If you dispute that, take it up with Alaska, If you dispute that apps can be used to pay for charging in parking lots, take that up with the folks who have payment systems in place for parking already. No technological impdiments, hell, it's even simple.
It will be a lot easier to buid this Infrastructure than the mess we have for shuttleing petrofuel around at present.