Resin is a high gravity, high hop, high malt beer brewed in of all places, Brooklyn New York. It's hard to make a balanced brew with those characteristics, especially the high alcohol content. But they succeed.
Yummy stuff. Only problem is its really a good idea to stop after one, unless you are at home or someone else is driving.
Yep. and while I'm generally against meddling lawyers and all...THIS is one online app I'd like to see crucified by the legal types out there.
To play devil's advocate, what's the legal basis for "crucifying" an app like this?
Oh, the fact that Yelp will end up being a defendant in the first of many libel trials. Then their legal team will give them the legal basis for at least dropping the service.
All you have to do is read Yelp itself to get a little idea of what's in store.
And even though libel is hard to prove, its a dead lock someone with deep pockets will be maligned, and of course, a lawsuit won is as successful as one lost, but you bankrupted the defendant
My only problem is whether I sit back with popcorn, or Cheetos and a soda to watch the fun.
Ad blocking is not boycott, it is free-riding: using the service (getting the benefits) and refusing to pay (accepting the costs).
Do you think that the cost of visiting the sites with ads should include slowing down page loads and getting infected with malware?
Thats why we block ads, thats why there is a boycott; because people don't feel that this offensive behaviour from ad brokers is an appropriate payment for visiting the sites.
If this trend continues, and adblockers are eliminated, I still won't see their ridiculous fucking ads, because I'll find something else to do with my time. I think that is the real issue after time passes. Using the ad enabled internet is simply slow, boring, and damn near useless.
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And now, even the Mac and Windows people have finally realized that you need command-line tools if you're going to be productive on a large scale.
Been bangin away on Macs for a very large value of "finally", as in when OSX came out. Too many things it does for what I do to not use it.
This is not extraordinary in the sense it would need extraordinary evidence. Because this is just the extreme unpreparedness of society to deal with this fact if it is proven, and to prove it we would need to understand intelligence much better than we do. So this is not a valid reason. Extraordinary consequence of an event are not being discussed here.
Exactly how would there be any "dealing with" anyhow?
Intelligence is a trait that only matters on the individual level. There is no use for intelligenc averages by race.
If it was somehow found that People of African descent were on average X number of poits less intelligent, what does that mean? There's nothing to do, unless some group wants to descide that every single member of that race is substandard. And that would be really stupid.
There are people of all races that are genius level. And certainly there are a lot of really stupid caucasians. Doesn't matter to teh individual what the average is.
I suppose that the only advantage of one or the other race being classified as "the most intelligent race" would be that the really stupid members of that race might have something to feel better about.
Because the democratic concepts of equal justice and equal representation under law have not yet developed to take into account the allegedly different intelligence levels of different identifiable subpopulations.
And even if it could, you could net determine an individual's intelligence by race alone. So it's a worthless metric.
So what is that we don't really have a very good or complete way to measure intelligence. And without that, "gene research" isn't going to be able to tell us anything like one race being more intelligent than another.
And even if we ever did, it means nothing. A genius that happenst to belong to a certain "race" is a genius, regardless if every other member of that race is not.
Your specific claim is that we perform killing BETTER than we do anything else. "Anything" is a pretty broad spectrum of possibilities;
Wait - what?
I wrote - complete with the typo:
I simply saty that killing each other is an integral part of the human mind, to deny tht takes a special sort of tap-dance.
Yeah - "Saty" should have been "say".
Your idea that I said we do it "BETTER" than anything else just isn't correct. I never said that. Killing each other is simply part of being human. Probably a part of "us versus them", aggression and ability to kill others possibly making for a better chance of survival, and the qualities that might fuel that aggression, like robustness, and high testosterone levels, just aid in the process. Not a condemnation, not a endorsement. Just a statement of what to me is as much a fact as humans having a drive to reproduce, or eat, or express themselves through art.
I'm still puzzled how you can actually compare "killing" and all other activities. That is a major advance in the philosophy of knowledge - up there with Immanuel Kant, and I hadn't heard of such major advances in philosophy. Where did you publish it? How do other philosophers regard your comparison arguments?
Oh, come off it. If I have to be published to make a comment, you need to be published to respond to it. But I do have some references below.
But first, you need to not tell me what I said, and substitute something you apparently wanted me to say in order to defeat the argument you wanted me to have.
All I'm saying is that humans have a genetically based component that predisposes us to life ending violence. Whether through personal murder or tribal sponsored warfare, we've been doing it for a long long time. We are good at it, just like we are good at a lot of things.
Since there are no longer any species of species of Homo to compare humanity with - perhaps in itself telling - we have to look elsewhere.
A comparison might be made between our closest living relatives, the chimpanzees Pan troglodytes and Pan paniscus
The two species are very similar physically, but have a number of behavioral differences. The most striking difference is that Pan paniscus, the bonobo, is a very peaceable creature, while troglodytes is quite violent, including fratricide.
There's a paywalled versions of that article - if you have to have the actual article, not articles based on them, ya gotta shell out some green.
Here's one that isn't paywalled. Very good article , with some intriguing genetic relationships between the behaviors of the two species assessed through differences in neurological systems.
Regardless, our closest living relatives, with Toglodytes being the very closest, show distinctive behavioral differences, with one being very violent, especially towards outsiders - yet not exclusively, and the other species settling conflicts, often via sexual activity. Which most closely resembles humanity?
I say human violence is an integral part of human heritage via our genes, just as with Pan Troglodytes.
You might differ, but now you need to show me the research saying we are not inherently violent.
The reasonable thing to do would be to admit that while you may have used the term "SJW" in the past, you have come to the conclusion that it's a bad term and is a sign that the user's argument can automatically be dismissed.
Seriously dude, I'll reply to this and then let you go, because discussions with you are remarkably weird and unproductive, not unlike arguing with that homeless guy laying on the sidewalk mumbling about aliens.
So in your smoking gun posts, which you brandish like the head of Mussolini, you declare I use the term S*W.
Sorry muchacho, but you apparently count quoted text as someone's own typing
In all those posts, I was responding to what someone else typed, and quoted their post.
Which yeah, included that overused pejorative.
That you are obsessive enough to search my history of posts is noted. That you think that other people's posts is what I wrote is likewise noted.
Good night, my chachalaca.
Well, I don't know that the individual expressly posted that a suspicious update
I've had the opposite sort of "suspicious update" on a couple of machines - one that suspects it's not a real copy of windows so that you have to repeat product activation, then roll back updates and do a whole lot of new updates.
How many times do you want to reboot today?
From what I've been told, it was an update that started that mess.
A friend was just diagnosed with ALS. He has a 3-5 year life expectancy at best. If this could give him a few more good years it would be awesome.
This is a little like Alzheimer's disease. My mother in law was on medications to slow the progression. I think she lived a couple years longer than she would have otherwise. I'd never call them good years though, the experience led me to tell my wife that there would be none of that crap put in my system.
What is really remarkable about modern humans, compared to other species, is how rarely we kill each other. Intra-species violence is more common in most other animals. Another remarkable trait of humans, is that when we do have conflict, how much we cooperate in doing so. A band of a dozen chimps may attack a neighboring band, but humans form armies of millions. Only ants are in the same league.
In 2010, 456,000 people were murdered worldwide.
In the US, 666,160 people were murdered between 1960 and 1996. Murder is the leading cause of death for young African males.
The good news is that murder rates have indeed dropped since medieval times ( I'm not certain how that was compiled)
But let's look at say, the 20th century
WW1 37 million casualties
WW2 - 60 million
Korean War ~1.2 million
Vietnam ~1.5 million
Iraq from 2003 to present is probably a half million
And gawd knows the other folks involved in our killing lust.
What I find remarkable is that you think tehis is no big deal, and we are remarkable peacful folks.
Can you tell me what other species has killed like we do?
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
You mean that Windows 10 wasn't intended to be patently evil, it's just that Microsoft are idiots?
The sad part, is that after trying out W10, I was pretty excited. Stuff worked, I could do what I needed to do, and find what I needed to find.
But they really screwed the pooch with the telemetry and the no choice updates on everything but Enterprise. My W10 Pro sacrificial computer running Pro only allows me to put them off for a little while, and constantly nags me.
So since I have one last piece of software that requires Windows, my sacrificial computer will run that program and only that program, and I'll do everything else on my OSX and Linux machines.
Gawdammit!, it was a nice OS otherwise. Stupid stupidheads!
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Could be that some Microsoft engineer accidentally published a test update.
Does it really matter if it was a mistake or not? If a guy burns down my house accidentally, or he does it on purpose, my house is still burnt down.
That's why mandatory no choice updates and the cloud are really bad ideas. The results of little mistakes can be indistinguishable from criminal intent. Either way, you lose.
I haven't seen the update yet, but people should consider this a close shot across the bow.
Somehow I don't believe you. Care to provide a link to the post in which you said that Microsoft would accidentally post a test package to the production Windows Update service?
Well, I don't know that the individual expressly posted that a suspicious update would happen, but unless Microsoft does something it has never ever done before, one of these days, an update that few have any option to do than let it happen, will create a huge mess.
Because unless you only use office, Microsoft updates constantly break things.
They're entirely different things. They're not even remotely similar. The only similarities they have is you can put people in them and they have wheels and brakes. Hell, the Tesla doesn't even have big breaks. They're not something you can compare with one another. Pick a BMW or something. I don't complain about the price but at least pick something that actually compares.
For crying out loud, step down from teh analogy bandwagon.
Let's take the vehicles out of it completely.
We put up with conditions in something or someone we like that we don't put up with in something we don't like.
The Tesla is considered too expensive by people who already don't like it while other similarly priced things are no problem to them whatsoever because they like them.
I know lots of truck nuts and not a single one of them has a F450. Where did you come up with this example? I knew one that had a F350, but they had a fabrication business and used it to haul heavy equipment around.
It's a truck - it's a price. Trucks are popular. That's my point, not hating on the 450. You want that truck, buy that truck, you want the Tesla, buy the Tesla.
It's all good, yet you hear a shitload of people bitching about how expensive the Tesla is, and you shouldn't want one because of that expense. Buy my trucking buddies would cum in their pants if one of them would drive up in a loaded 450. But they cannot see the difference because they innately love pickup trucks, yet find electric cars threatening and don't like electric cars.
Plus you seem to be arguing that humans don't enjoy killing each other? It's what we do best.
What criteria of measurement do you use to conclude that we are better at killing than we are at any or all of the following :
Fucking.
Cooking
Symphony writing
Cave painting
Mathematics (applied)
Mathematics (pure)
I see claims like this with depressing frequency, but I've never met anyone who actually had thought it through before saying it.
All of those things we do.
But your thesis is that the constant state of war we have always been in, the constant murdering, the aggression - is somehow completely disconnected to what we are?
I simply saty that killing each other is an integral part of the human mind, to deny tht takes a special sort of tap-dance. Either that, or we really really hate killing each other, we just do it constantly as some sort of cosmic need to do something we don't want to do.
We fuck because we want to fuck - it's fun, and necessary
We cook, because it's enjoyable
We make music, because it has an integral effect on the human mind, and we enjoy it.
We have a innate need to create - it's interesting that cave painting predates when we think we started cooking food. We love it.
We have mathematicians because we have people who love to think
All of these things, people do because they enjoy doing them. And they have done them for quite a long time.
But no, the constant killing we have practiced as long as we have been around - that's somehow different.
I've met very few people who spend their entire lives doing exactly what they do not want to do. Have you met many?
And the excuses that it's leaders, just don't flush. We follow leaders, and the leaders must be of the sort that we will follow, otherwise they are just people who want to be leaders, but no one will follow.
Not everybody has a power outlet where they park at home.
Why do you keep beating that one? What individual vehicle satisfies 100 percent of people needs or things they don't have?
My current car satisfies 99% of my needs, which is damn close enough.
My bad writing there. Sorry about that. I was trying to say that not every vehicle will be the right vehicle for everyone. A lot of people aren't right for Teslas. Or Jeeps, or Pickup trucks, or Family vans.
Re your comment - it's pretty much the same for me. Some times I wish I had a truck, but then there are some pickup rental places, or the local Home Depot.
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I prefer a glass of epichlorohydrin, myself.
Resin is a high gravity, high hop, high malt beer brewed in of all places, Brooklyn New York. It's hard to make a balanced brew with those characteristics, especially the high alcohol content. But they succeed.
Yummy stuff. Only problem is its really a good idea to stop after one, unless you are at home or someone else is driving.
This really happened? It didn't concoct as a feverish fantasy in your brain?
I can honestly say that in all my 41 years, I've never, ever mentioned that I'm gay while ordering fries.
Oh, you should. They'll give you a nice T-Shirt.
Seriously though, he sounds pretty rattled.
Because unless you only use office, Microsoft updates constantly break things.
Why would only using Office help? Office updates break things plenty often in my experience.
I probably should have said "simple stuff" as I haven't touched MS Office since the ribbon, except for PowerPoint. My bad.
I'm raising a glass of Resin as I write this.
Wouldn't you rather lick, suck, stroke, and lovingly caress a great big black PENIS?
Why no, I'm not oriented that way. But you seem to spend a lot of time thinking about it. So do as you will, AC. I won't judge..
And at this point, who gives a shit about gays beside closeted people?
Yep. and while I'm generally against meddling lawyers and all...THIS is one online app I'd like to see crucified by the legal types out there.
To play devil's advocate, what's the legal basis for "crucifying" an app like this?
Oh, the fact that Yelp will end up being a defendant in the first of many libel trials. Then their legal team will give them the legal basis for at least dropping the service.
All you have to do is read Yelp itself to get a little idea of what's in store.
And even though libel is hard to prove, its a dead lock someone with deep pockets will be maligned, and of course, a lawsuit won is as successful as one lost, but you bankrupted the defendant
My only problem is whether I sit back with popcorn, or Cheetos and a soda to watch the fun.
Ad blocking is not boycott, it is free-riding: using the service (getting the benefits) and refusing to pay (accepting the costs).
Do you think that the cost of visiting the sites with ads should include slowing down page loads and getting infected with malware?
Thats why we block ads, thats why there is a boycott; because people don't feel that this offensive behaviour from ad brokers is an appropriate payment for visiting the sites.
If this trend continues, and adblockers are eliminated, I still won't see their ridiculous fucking ads, because I'll find something else to do with my time. I think that is the real issue after time passes. Using the ad enabled internet is simply slow, boring, and damn near useless.
And now, even the Mac and Windows people have finally realized that you need command-line tools if you're going to be productive on a large scale.
Been bangin away on Macs for a very large value of "finally", as in when OSX came out. Too many things it does for what I do to not use it.
He figured out that the parasite school of economics wasn't going to work in the long run.
I'm raising a glass of Resin as I write this.
This is not extraordinary in the sense it would need extraordinary evidence. Because this is just the extreme unpreparedness of society to deal with this fact if it is proven, and to prove it we would need to understand intelligence much better than we do. So this is not a valid reason. Extraordinary consequence of an event are not being discussed here.
Exactly how would there be any "dealing with" anyhow?
Intelligence is a trait that only matters on the individual level. There is no use for intelligenc averages by race.
If it was somehow found that People of African descent were on average X number of poits less intelligent, what does that mean? There's nothing to do, unless some group wants to descide that every single member of that race is substandard. And that would be really stupid.
There are people of all races that are genius level. And certainly there are a lot of really stupid caucasians. Doesn't matter to teh individual what the average is.
I suppose that the only advantage of one or the other race being classified as "the most intelligent race" would be that the really stupid members of that race might have something to feel better about.
And that hain't worth hardly nuthin, Cletus!
Because the democratic concepts of equal justice and equal representation under law have not yet developed to take into account the allegedly different intelligence levels of different identifiable subpopulations.
And even if it could, you could net determine an individual's intelligence by race alone. So it's a worthless metric.
So what is that we don't really have a very good or complete way to measure intelligence. And without that, "gene research" isn't going to be able to tell us anything like one race being more intelligent than another.
And even if we ever did, it means nothing. A genius that happenst to belong to a certain "race" is a genius, regardless if every other member of that race is not.
Love the links - Me share too!
Here's a smart little bundle of joy:
http://www.liberalamerica.org/...
Old Poopypants Patriot is obviously smarter than this little lady in England who just started University at ten years old
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnne...
Then again, maybe not.
Your specific claim is that we perform killing BETTER than we do anything else. "Anything" is a pretty broad spectrum of possibilities ;
Wait - what?
I wrote - complete with the typo: I simply saty that killing each other is an integral part of the human mind, to deny tht takes a special sort of tap-dance.
Yeah - "Saty" should have been "say".
Your idea that I said we do it "BETTER" than anything else just isn't correct. I never said that. Killing each other is simply part of being human. Probably a part of "us versus them", aggression and ability to kill others possibly making for a better chance of survival, and the qualities that might fuel that aggression, like robustness, and high testosterone levels, just aid in the process. Not a condemnation, not a endorsement. Just a statement of what to me is as much a fact as humans having a drive to reproduce, or eat, or express themselves through art.
I'm still puzzled how you can actually compare "killing" and all other activities. That is a major advance in the philosophy of knowledge - up there with Immanuel Kant, and I hadn't heard of such major advances in philosophy. Where did you publish it? How do other philosophers regard your comparison arguments?
Oh, come off it. If I have to be published to make a comment, you need to be published to respond to it. But I do have some references below.
But first, you need to not tell me what I said, and substitute something you apparently wanted me to say in order to defeat the argument you wanted me to have.
All I'm saying is that humans have a genetically based component that predisposes us to life ending violence. Whether through personal murder or tribal sponsored warfare, we've been doing it for a long long time. We are good at it, just like we are good at a lot of things.
Since there are no longer any species of species of Homo to compare humanity with - perhaps in itself telling - we have to look elsewhere.
A comparison might be made between our closest living relatives, the chimpanzees Pan troglodytes and Pan paniscus
http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/... for an entry level text.
The two species are very similar physically, but have a number of behavioral differences. The most striking difference is that Pan paniscus, the bonobo, is a very peaceable creature, while troglodytes is quite violent, including fratricide.
http://www.latimes.com/science...
There's a paywalled versions of that article - if you have to have the actual article, not articles based on them, ya gotta shell out some green.
Here's one that isn't paywalled. Very good article , with some intriguing genetic relationships between the behaviors of the two species assessed through differences in neurological systems.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pm...
Regardless, our closest living relatives, with Toglodytes being the very closest, show distinctive behavioral differences, with one being very violent, especially towards outsiders - yet not exclusively, and the other species settling conflicts, often via sexual activity. Which most closely resembles humanity?
I say human violence is an integral part of human heritage via our genes, just as with Pan Troglodytes.
You might differ, but now you need to show me the research saying we are not inherently violent.
Why don't you just stick with Windows 7 for that one app? Security updates will keep coming for 5 more years.
For my main computer, which is running W7 via bootcamp, I'll do just that. That sacrificial computer was just a hopeful experiment
The reasonable thing to do would be to admit that while you may have used the term "SJW" in the past, you have come to the conclusion that it's a bad term and is a sign that the user's argument can automatically be dismissed.
Seriously dude, I'll reply to this and then let you go, because discussions with you are remarkably weird and unproductive, not unlike arguing with that homeless guy laying on the sidewalk mumbling about aliens.
So in your smoking gun posts, which you brandish like the head of Mussolini, you declare I use the term S*W.
Sorry muchacho, but you apparently count quoted text as someone's own typing
In all those posts, I was responding to what someone else typed, and quoted their post.
Which yeah, included that overused pejorative.
That you are obsessive enough to search my history of posts is noted. That you think that other people's posts is what I wrote is likewise noted. Good night, my chachalaca.
I've had the opposite sort of "suspicious update" on a couple of machines - one that suspects it's not a real copy of windows so that you have to repeat product activation, then roll back updates and do a whole lot of new updates. How many times do you want to reboot today?
From what I've been told, it was an update that started that mess.
A friend was just diagnosed with ALS. He has a 3-5 year life expectancy at best. If this could give him a few more good years it would be awesome.
This is a little like Alzheimer's disease. My mother in law was on medications to slow the progression. I think she lived a couple years longer than she would have otherwise. I'd never call them good years though, the experience led me to tell my wife that there would be none of that crap put in my system.
Pharmaceutical company did very nicely though.
But here's hoping something can be found.
The nature of mankind is conflict.
What is really remarkable about modern humans, compared to other species, is how rarely we kill each other. Intra-species violence is more common in most other animals. Another remarkable trait of humans, is that when we do have conflict, how much we cooperate in doing so. A band of a dozen chimps may attack a neighboring band, but humans form armies of millions. Only ants are in the same league.
In 2010, 456,000 people were murdered worldwide.
In the US, 666,160 people were murdered between 1960 and 1996. Murder is the leading cause of death for young African males.
The good news is that murder rates have indeed dropped since medieval times ( I'm not certain how that was compiled)
But let's look at say, the 20th century
WW1 37 million casualties
WW2 - 60 million
Korean War ~1.2 million Vietnam ~1.5 million
Iraq from 2003 to present is probably a half million
And gawd knows the other folks involved in our killing lust.
What I find remarkable is that you think tehis is no big deal, and we are remarkable peacful folks.
Can you tell me what other species has killed like we do?
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
You mean that Windows 10 wasn't intended to be patently evil, it's just that Microsoft are idiots?
The sad part, is that after trying out W10, I was pretty excited. Stuff worked, I could do what I needed to do, and find what I needed to find.
But they really screwed the pooch with the telemetry and the no choice updates on everything but Enterprise. My W10 Pro sacrificial computer running Pro only allows me to put them off for a little while, and constantly nags me.
So since I have one last piece of software that requires Windows, my sacrificial computer will run that program and only that program, and I'll do everything else on my OSX and Linux machines.
Gawdammit!, it was a nice OS otherwise. Stupid stupidheads!
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Could be that some Microsoft engineer accidentally published a test update.
Does it really matter if it was a mistake or not? If a guy burns down my house accidentally, or he does it on purpose, my house is still burnt down.
That's why mandatory no choice updates and the cloud are really bad ideas. The results of little mistakes can be indistinguishable from criminal intent. Either way, you lose.
I haven't seen the update yet, but people should consider this a close shot across the bow.
I told you so.
Somehow I don't believe you. Care to provide a link to the post in which you said that Microsoft would accidentally post a test package to the production Windows Update service?
Well, I don't know that the individual expressly posted that a suspicious update would happen, but unless Microsoft does something it has never ever done before, one of these days, an update that few have any option to do than let it happen, will create a huge mess.
Because unless you only use office, Microsoft updates constantly break things.
They're entirely different things. They're not even remotely similar. The only similarities they have is you can put people in them and they have wheels and brakes. Hell, the Tesla doesn't even have big breaks. They're not something you can compare with one another. Pick a BMW or something. I don't complain about the price but at least pick something that actually compares.
For crying out loud, step down from teh analogy bandwagon.
Let's take the vehicles out of it completely.
We put up with conditions in something or someone we like that we don't put up with in something we don't like.
The Tesla is considered too expensive by people who already don't like it while other similarly priced things are no problem to them whatsoever because they like them.
I know lots of truck nuts and not a single one of them has a F450. Where did you come up with this example? I knew one that had a F350, but they had a fabrication business and used it to haul heavy equipment around.
It's a truck - it's a price. Trucks are popular. That's my point, not hating on the 450. You want that truck, buy that truck, you want the Tesla, buy the Tesla.
It's all good, yet you hear a shitload of people bitching about how expensive the Tesla is, and you shouldn't want one because of that expense. Buy my trucking buddies would cum in their pants if one of them would drive up in a loaded 450. But they cannot see the difference because they innately love pickup trucks, yet find electric cars threatening and don't like electric cars.
What criteria of measurement do you use to conclude that we are better at killing than we are at any or all of the following :
I see claims like this with depressing frequency, but I've never met anyone who actually had thought it through before saying it.
All of those things we do.
But your thesis is that the constant state of war we have always been in, the constant murdering, the aggression - is somehow completely disconnected to what we are?
I simply saty that killing each other is an integral part of the human mind, to deny tht takes a special sort of tap-dance. Either that, or we really really hate killing each other, we just do it constantly as some sort of cosmic need to do something we don't want to do.
We fuck because we want to fuck - it's fun, and necessary
We cook, because it's enjoyable
We make music, because it has an integral effect on the human mind, and we enjoy it.
We have a innate need to create - it's interesting that cave painting predates when we think we started cooking food. We love it.
We have mathematicians because we have people who love to think
All of these things, people do because they enjoy doing them. And they have done them for quite a long time.
But no, the constant killing we have practiced as long as we have been around - that's somehow different.
I've met very few people who spend their entire lives doing exactly what they do not want to do. Have you met many?
And the excuses that it's leaders, just don't flush. We follow leaders, and the leaders must be of the sort that we will follow, otherwise they are just people who want to be leaders, but no one will follow.
Not everybody has a power outlet where they park at home.
Why do you keep beating that one? What individual vehicle satisfies 100 percent of people needs or things they don't have?
My current car satisfies 99% of my needs, which is damn close enough.
My bad writing there. Sorry about that. I was trying to say that not every vehicle will be the right vehicle for everyone. A lot of people aren't right for Teslas. Or Jeeps, or Pickup trucks, or Family vans.
Re your comment - it's pretty much the same for me. Some times I wish I had a truck, but then there are some pickup rental places, or the local Home Depot.