I've pulled out my old Brian Stableford novels. Some 70's oldies like Halcyon Drift, Rhapsody in Black, and Swan song for one series, and The mind Riders and Daedalous mission as well.
Except everyone has USB-C connectors. My macbook is 1.75 years old and I have had to get them replaced already. Using them with a dongle compounds this problem because there is only 2mm contact inside. Any sideways pressure on the dongle housing wears this out very quickly.
It isn't like I disagree that small connectors are a mechanical issue.
Its a sub-reason that I use Bluetooth headphones. N connectors, and no wire on a previously wireless device. The tethering wire is the main reason.
Please list the ways that a rotary phone is superior to a push-button phone.
Please list the ways that a 3.5 mm plug and jack are superior to bluetooth.
It's a phone for crying out loud. If I need high quality sound, I'll not be using my phone. And my real equipment does not have a 3.5 mm jack on it. That is all you need to know about how good that poor excuse for interconnection equipment is. The only thing worse is the micro phone jack. I've found some of them fail on first use. Science!
Y'all mini phonejack-o-philes are a real hoot. If you don't want a phone without one, don't buy that phone.
But y'all gotta come up with better reasons. The ones you use so far are lacking somehow.
"That little adapter that comes free with iphones isn't a big deal. You just plug it in and leave it there."
I hear that the next generation is going to have an innovative new feature where they've engineered a way of actually building the adapter into the phone! Courage and progress.
That defies belief, unless you don't actually use the jack very much. This connection type is notoriously flaky, and it has been since the days of the humble walkman. I've either tossed out or replaced the plug on scores of headphones, and had a fair number of loose or flaky jacks over the years. I've never had a device with a lightning connector, so I can't comment on the relative reliability - but your quote does not jibe with my experience at all. And judging by the people fiddling with their cords all the time, my experience isn't unique.
Lightning connectors are pretty robust, as long as you get the Apple version. The extraction force is significant, so if you get a Big lots version of the connector, the insulation will pull off eventually.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but....
As for the 3.5 mm jack, there are just some physical properties that make it very difficult to make a long lasting and reliable. They use spring metal to make and hold the contacts. Difficult to do at that size. The jacks especially are prone to damage when accidentally yanked out as tn angle, which tends to happen when the cord snags on something.
Now, can the 3.5mm plug and jack be made a reliable device? Sure - if you are willing to expend the space and increase the cost dramatically.
But already as we see, the case intrusion of around an inch can prevent you from using a larger and higher capacity battery. The work to make a 3.5mm jack that is reliable will increase that problem. So make the case larger or thicker to accommodate outdated and unreliable technology and get better battery life? Seems weird except for the Slashdot reactionaries.
Oldest is irrelevant. If it works, it's used. It works.
My parents had a rotary phone until the mid - 90's
It's an industry standard.
So was their rotary phone.
The fragile comment is also worthless. Fragile as compared to what? I have never broken a headphone jack on a device.
I've replaced many of them over the years. The 1/8th or 3.5 mm socket is a remarkably weak device. The biggest issue is that the simple metal springs are not robust, being a scaled down version of the ubiquitous 1/4 inch plug and jack. It is one of the weakest points on any device it is installed on. Professionals use them only if there is no other choice, because they are a very unreliable component.
Either way, he (like you) should cite some real research to validate your assertions.
SRSLY? Do your own research. This is like demanding that I prove that the sun isn't a burning lump of coal. Or claiming that a smartphone camera is better than a professional DSLR, so I have to prove it is. I've repaired or tossed a lot of devices small audio jacks over the years. Believe or do not, I hardly care.
Just keep the adaptor plugged in into your headphones. If you're still losing it this way I don't think that your parents should trust you with handling their expensive mobile phones.
It's just a non-issue.
And how. The adapter on my buds never showed any sign of coming loose.
The issue is that some people don't like Apple, or are resistant to change. So they have welded their zone of acceptability to one of the worst and most fragile connectors ever made.
The next logical step from here is to eliminate set theory and partitions because they might remind people of segregation.
Then we'll have to get rid of TCP because somebody might sexualize connecting a client and server socket.
We'll also need to stop killing processes, because killing is wrong.
You joke, but you speak truth. Appeasing the perpetually offended is not a winning strategy.
When being offended is a group's core competency, eliminating one thing that offends them merely allows two more things to spring up, like the head of a hydra.
Silly sexist Male and female connectors. Plug and jack are the way to go.
Wait - My wife and her friends at on time referred to used tampons as "plugs", and Jack is oh so obviously a term for masturbating.
Joking aside, The Social justice crowd merely proves that they are running out of things to wail about when "master" and "slave" must be eliminated from the lexicon.
So now what will we call the master and slave cylinder on braking systems. I have a few Master reference books that are suddenly offensive. And when Making lists, I usually have a master list that is the main reference. Who knew that those books ans lists and car braking systems offensive words specifically referenced and promoted one of America's darker chapters?
Seriously warriors, spend more time agitating about infibulation and honor killings than trying to have the tidiest and most OC room in the house.
Wireless headphones experience is still crap. I have tried many wireless headphones, and despite paying around 150USD each time, I always ended with headphones that are less comfortable and sound worse than my wired 40 dollar Koss PortraPro or 60 dollar Sennheiser PX100-ii. Moreover, these super duper "advanced" and expensive headsets have a tendency to stop working within a year.
Meanwhile I have a three plus year old BT headset that is still going strong. It's so comfortable that I sometimes forget to take it off. Dueling data points, I suppose.
I refuse to carry that stupid dongle. It's just another item that will get lost and it's just plain inconvenient to use.
Sucks to be so convenience oriented that plugging in an adapter is a bridge too far. Don't ever try for a job in audio or RF I have boxes full of adapters. You'd have a nervous breakdown..
That little adapter that comes free with iphones isn't a big deal. You just plug it in and leave it there. If it slips out and gets lost, there is something broken, the plug or the adapter. I only ever tried mine once, just to see what you and yours were whining about. Whining about it takes more effort than doing it.I did note that the iPhone earbuds were pretty dood as earbuds go. But after using it once, I put it back in it's case, because I use BT, and didn't go wireless just to tether myself to my phone. You find the so called dongle just too hard to live with but wired to your phone is apparently da shitz.
As for Oneplus, all I can say hasta la vista. It was good while it lasted.
Well then, buy a phone that suits your needs and won't upset you. They did you a favor by limiting the number of phones you personally find acceptable. A friend of my wife has an old flip phone because "smartphones are stupid and trendy".But she can still find a phone - I think her next one is that phone they advertise on television for old people though, the selection isn't quite what it used to be.
It's one of the only features I use on my feature phone. You could take out the cameras, GPS, motion sensors and probably half a dozen other bits i've never heard of let alone used, but the headphone socket is important to me.
If nothing else is important but the headphone jack, you could always buy a Zune
The government couldn't get him on hiking the price of the drugs, they got him on securities fraud.
There is an old saying in law enforcement that the first time a person is caught is not the first time they have broken the law. I'm pretty certain that goes for our buddy that recently hiked his prices too. Get a few reporters and law enforcement looking into it, and he's probably had a lot of shady dealings.
We've been seeing that a lot lately, with some folks who blazed a path of illegal moves and shady dealings. They would have continued forever under the radar, except for their mob boss becoming President.
If you really want to see something corrupt it's a government contractor. Private corporation working for the government. There are so many levels of "I just don't care" going on there with so little accountability, all mixed in with a big profit motive to. And all these small-government types are all for outsourcing important government jobs to private contractors so that there is actually higher cost, more corruption, worse outcomes.
And don't forget, The winner of the US-Iraq war was Halliburton. Which just happened to be really closely related to Darth Cheney. So there you have a political figure who is all about privatization.
The whole Private market uber alles crowd is fueled by those who stand to make incredible profit, and useful idiots who have been trained in Government is the enemy doctrine.
Any group, public or private sector can become corrupt. But that is related to people, not the private or public of it.
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Did you just frickin assume my preferred language?
Some people can't speak you insensitive clod!
This has gotten out of hand, definitely.
What about people with no hands, you insensitive clod? But you're right, there isn't much that doesn't offend someone
Probably no one today has heard of him.
shitpost
Problem with peeps these days. A sense of humor of a chapped ass.
My dear Mister Phil Schiller, simply quit, leave and go to some place where every single project is a yuge success.
What do you think causes a storm surge?
Puberty or menopause
sure, and then carry 2 devices instead of one. how do we award you a crown sir?
What 2 devices? A headphone and a phone is 2 devices. I just skip the cord part.
Y'all are excited about having to plug in two things, I don't plug in any except to charge the BT headphones when I get back home.
I'll help you out: "one of the only features" "feature phone" -> it isn't the only feature he uses, he wants a phone.
My uncle Fred comes to family gatherings and brags about not having a computer.
Except everyone has USB-C connectors. My macbook is 1.75 years old and I have had to get them replaced already. Using them with a dongle compounds this problem because there is only 2mm contact inside. Any sideways pressure on the dongle housing wears this out very quickly.
It isn't like I disagree that small connectors are a mechanical issue.
Its a sub-reason that I use Bluetooth headphones. N connectors, and no wire on a previously wireless device. The tethering wire is the main reason.
The biggest issue is that the simple metal springs are not robust, being a scaled down version of the ubiquitous 1/4 inch plug and jack.
To be fair though, this is also a problem with every flavor of USB, and pretty much any non-locking connector type.
One of the reasons I use Bluetooth.
Your post gave me an idea. Mil-spec locking connectors on smartphones! Ugh, that's what happens when I get up too early.
Please list the ways that a rotary phone is superior to a push-button phone.
Please list the ways that a 3.5 mm plug and jack are superior to bluetooth.
It's a phone for crying out loud. If I need high quality sound, I'll not be using my phone. And my real equipment does not have a 3.5 mm jack on it. That is all you need to know about how good that poor excuse for interconnection equipment is. The only thing worse is the micro phone jack. I've found some of them fail on first use. Science!
Y'all mini phonejack-o-philes are a real hoot. If you don't want a phone without one, don't buy that phone.
But y'all gotta come up with better reasons. The ones you use so far are lacking somehow.
"That little adapter that comes free with iphones isn't a big deal. You just plug it in and leave it there." I hear that the next generation is going to have an innovative new feature where they've engineered a way of actually building the adapter into the phone! Courage and progress.
Already has one - Bluetooth.
That's it. My penis, your butt, let's go.
AC held down Ol Olsoc and gave him the business for 7 hours.
You'd never go back to sheep, Sparky!
3 years is a braggable age? My youngest headset is like 10 years old...
How are the batteries in that headset? Squeezing 10 years out of bluetooth headset batteries is pretty impressive.
Right, because that's what he said. With your (mis)understading he could just buy a headphone socket from an electronics store.
Umm..... whoosh.
I have never broken a headphone jack on a device.
That defies belief, unless you don't actually use the jack very much. This connection type is notoriously flaky, and it has been since the days of the humble walkman. I've either tossed out or replaced the plug on scores of headphones, and had a fair number of loose or flaky jacks over the years. I've never had a device with a lightning connector, so I can't comment on the relative reliability - but your quote does not jibe with my experience at all. And judging by the people fiddling with their cords all the time, my experience isn't unique.
Lightning connectors are pretty robust, as long as you get the Apple version. The extraction force is significant, so if you get a Big lots version of the connector, the insulation will pull off eventually.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but....
As for the 3.5 mm jack, there are just some physical properties that make it very difficult to make a long lasting and reliable. They use spring metal to make and hold the contacts. Difficult to do at that size. The jacks especially are prone to damage when accidentally yanked out as tn angle, which tends to happen when the cord snags on something.
Now, can the 3.5mm plug and jack be made a reliable device? Sure - if you are willing to expend the space and increase the cost dramatically.
But already as we see, the case intrusion of around an inch can prevent you from using a larger and higher capacity battery. The work to make a 3.5mm jack that is reliable will increase that problem. So make the case larger or thicker to accommodate outdated and unreliable technology and get better battery life? Seems weird except for the Slashdot reactionaries.
Oldest is irrelevant. If it works, it's used. It works.
My parents had a rotary phone until the mid - 90's
It's an industry standard.
So was their rotary phone.
The fragile comment is also worthless. Fragile as compared to what? I have never broken a headphone jack on a device.
I've replaced many of them over the years. The 1/8th or 3.5 mm socket is a remarkably weak device. The biggest issue is that the simple metal springs are not robust, being a scaled down version of the ubiquitous 1/4 inch plug and jack. It is one of the weakest points on any device it is installed on. Professionals use them only if there is no other choice, because they are a very unreliable component.
Either way, he (like you) should cite some real research to validate your assertions.
SRSLY? Do your own research. This is like demanding that I prove that the sun isn't a burning lump of coal. Or claiming that a smartphone camera is better than a professional DSLR, so I have to prove it is. I've repaired or tossed a lot of devices small audio jacks over the years. Believe or do not, I hardly care.
I completely agree with you. To clarify, though, I wasn't joking; I was describing what lies ahead on this slippery slope.
It was still pretty amusing.
Let us rejoice that we can make fun of these folk!
Just keep the adaptor plugged in into your headphones. If you're still losing it this way I don't think that your parents should trust you with handling their expensive mobile phones. It's just a non-issue.
And how. The adapter on my buds never showed any sign of coming loose.
The issue is that some people don't like Apple, or are resistant to change. So they have welded their zone of acceptability to one of the worst and most fragile connectors ever made.
The next logical step from here is to eliminate set theory and partitions because they might remind people of segregation. Then we'll have to get rid of TCP because somebody might sexualize connecting a client and server socket. We'll also need to stop killing processes, because killing is wrong.
You joke, but you speak truth. Appeasing the perpetually offended is not a winning strategy.
When being offended is a group's core competency, eliminating one thing that offends them merely allows two more things to spring up, like the head of a hydra.
Master and Slave oh noes!
Silly sexist Male and female connectors. Plug and jack are the way to go.
Wait - My wife and her friends at on time referred to used tampons as "plugs", and Jack is oh so obviously a term for masturbating.
Joking aside, The Social justice crowd merely proves that they are running out of things to wail about when "master" and "slave" must be eliminated from the lexicon.
So now what will we call the master and slave cylinder on braking systems. I have a few Master reference books that are suddenly offensive. And when Making lists, I usually have a master list that is the main reference. Who knew that those books ans lists and car braking systems offensive words specifically referenced and promoted one of America's darker chapters?
Seriously warriors, spend more time agitating about infibulation and honor killings than trying to have the tidiest and most OC room in the house.
Wireless headphones experience is still crap. I have tried many wireless headphones, and despite paying around 150USD each time, I always ended with headphones that are less comfortable and sound worse than my wired 40 dollar Koss PortraPro or 60 dollar Sennheiser PX100-ii. Moreover, these super duper "advanced" and expensive headsets have a tendency to stop working within a year.
Meanwhile I have a three plus year old BT headset that is still going strong. It's so comfortable that I sometimes forget to take it off. Dueling data points, I suppose.
I refuse to carry that stupid dongle. It's just another item that will get lost and it's just plain inconvenient to use.
Sucks to be so convenience oriented that plugging in an adapter is a bridge too far. Don't ever try for a job in audio or RF I have boxes full of adapters. You'd have a nervous breakdown..
That little adapter that comes free with iphones isn't a big deal. You just plug it in and leave it there. If it slips out and gets lost, there is something broken, the plug or the adapter. I only ever tried mine once, just to see what you and yours were whining about. Whining about it takes more effort than doing it.I did note that the iPhone earbuds were pretty dood as earbuds go. But after using it once, I put it back in it's case, because I use BT, and didn't go wireless just to tether myself to my phone. You find the so called dongle just too hard to live with but wired to your phone is apparently da shitz.
As for Oneplus, all I can say hasta la vista. It was good while it lasted.
Well then, buy a phone that suits your needs and won't upset you. They did you a favor by limiting the number of phones you personally find acceptable. A friend of my wife has an old flip phone because "smartphones are stupid and trendy".But she can still find a phone - I think her next one is that phone they advertise on television for old people though, the selection isn't quite what it used to be.
It's one of the only features I use on my feature phone. You could take out the cameras, GPS, motion sensors and probably half a dozen other bits i've never heard of let alone used, but the headphone socket is important to me.
If nothing else is important but the headphone jack, you could always buy a Zune
The government couldn't get him on hiking the price of the drugs, they got him on securities fraud.
There is an old saying in law enforcement that the first time a person is caught is not the first time they have broken the law. I'm pretty certain that goes for our buddy that recently hiked his prices too. Get a few reporters and law enforcement looking into it, and he's probably had a lot of shady dealings.
We've been seeing that a lot lately, with some folks who blazed a path of illegal moves and shady dealings. They would have continued forever under the radar, except for their mob boss becoming President.
If you really want to see something corrupt it's a government contractor. Private corporation working for the government. There are so many levels of "I just don't care" going on there with so little accountability, all mixed in with a big profit motive to. And all these small-government types are all for outsourcing important government jobs to private contractors so that there is actually higher cost, more corruption, worse outcomes.
And don't forget, The winner of the US-Iraq war was Halliburton. Which just happened to be really closely related to Darth Cheney. So there you have a political figure who is all about privatization.
The whole Private market uber alles crowd is fueled by those who stand to make incredible profit, and useful idiots who have been trained in Government is the enemy doctrine.
Any group, public or private sector can become corrupt. But that is related to people, not the private or public of it.